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Reply #360 posted 08/25/15 1:28pm

RodeoSchro

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RodeoSchro said:



Yes, you can open a Photobucket account www.photobucket.com. They're free, and you can upload photos there. Then you can copy the link and post it here. Just make sure to post it as an image.

Can't wait to see this!

thanks for the tip..will open a photobuckett account tonight from home. I hope we're on the same page, all i'm gonna show you is that you can take a ship from Tokyo to Honnolullu without having to go around Africa on the flat earth map. Is this what your expecting?



Yep! I can't wait to see the Flat Earth map! Keep on being awesome! highfive

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Reply #361 posted 08/25/15 1:36pm

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Wait. What? I don't get that at all. lol

Don't beat yourself up. That argument betrays the incredible lack of knowledge in rudimyary physics required to believe in a flat earth. It's not meant to make sense to anyone smarter than a toddler.

9.25...that was pretty good. Nice to see the Lust of old is back!!!

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Reply #362 posted 08/25/15 1:45pm

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By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory!
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Reply #363 posted 08/25/15 2:07pm

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lust said:


Phishanga said:



Wait. What? I don't get that at all. lol



Don't beat yourself up. That argument betrays the incredible lack of knowledge in rudimyary physics required to believe in a flat earth. It's not meant to make sense to anyone smarter than a toddler.


9.25...that was pretty good. Nice to see the Lust of old is back!!!





Thanks chap.
Here's some things you obviously haven't considered.
The visible curvature from an aircraft is visible at 39000ft you say due to the shape of the windows?
Are therefore we to assume that on the Tarmac and lower altitude where the horizons appears flat that the windows are changed whilst we're all distracted by the meal service?

Polar flights. Many air routes fly the shortest straight line from a to b. In many cases this is over the pole. I've flown a few of these routes. Very beautiful actually. Always succsessfuly come over the other side. Uh oh!

I've just spent two weeks on an island in Thailand. Your rantings encouraged me to watch distant ships on the horizon. Guess what. I watched them disappear bottom down into the ocean as they would on a sphere. Then I went up to higher ground and could see the top again for a while before they disappeared once more.

And that my friend should be the end of it but something tells me that your mind won't be changed.

I would like to apologise for calling you an idiot on many occasions. I know some really nice idiots and they'd be highly offended by the comparison.
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Reply #364 posted 08/25/15 2:22pm

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RodeoSchro said:



Funkcreep said:




RodeoSchro said:





Yes, you can open a Photobucket account www.photobucket.com. They're free, and you can upload photos there. Then you can copy the link and post it here. Just make sure to post it as an image.

Can't wait to see this!




thanks for the tip..will open a photobuckett account tonight from home. I hope we're on the same page, all i'm gonna show you is that you can take a ship from Tokyo to Honnolullu without having to go around Africa on the flat earth map. Is this what your expecting?





Yep! I can't wait to see the Flat Earth map! Keep on being awesome! highfive



Rodeo. You've lost me here. If the flat earth map
Is the one with the North Pole in the middle and Antarctica bordering the edge then there's a straight direct line from Japan to Hawaii just like in the real global earth.
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Reply #365 posted 08/25/15 2:41pm

RodeoSchro

lust said:

RodeoSchro said:



Yep! I can't wait to see the Flat Earth map! Keep on being awesome! highfive

Rodeo. You've lost me here. If the flat earth map Is the one with the North Pole in the middle and Antarctica bordering the edge then there's a straight direct line from Japan to Hawaii just like in the real global earth.



What reply # has this alleged map of Flat Earth to which you refer?

Anyway, I want to see Funkcreep's map too because I just know his map will be more awesome than any other map ever in history. Because, he's so awesome!

Team Funkcreep!

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Reply #366 posted 08/25/15 2:54pm

morningsong

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Image result for south pole pictures

Image result for south pole pictures

Image result for south pole pictures
Image result for fuchs south pole pictures
The non-existing South Pole.

Very cool pictures. I can imagine what a beating i would take if my only evidence was anectdotal. I would be burned alive!

I try to stick with science and physics, like the video i just posted "Balls out physics Episode 1: Planes flying on a spinning ball"

So how come our evidence isn't true, but your evidence is the absolute truth? This can go in circles forever like that, which is why I personally fall out of these conversations, early.

A guy in my own city, a private citizen, in his own plane, took off in May,2015 over the pacific ocean, flew over asia, and europe, then over the atlantic ocean, across the US until he arrived home again, in August, 2015. Either he did it or he's lying. You can't fly over both oceans in a continuous flight unless you back track on a flat surface, there's no amount of physics to account for that.

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Reply #367 posted 08/25/15 3:02pm

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RodeoSchro said:



lust said:


RodeoSchro said:




Yep! I can't wait to see the Flat Earth map! Keep on being awesome! highfive



Rodeo. You've lost me here. If the flat earth map Is the one with the North Pole in the middle and Antarctica bordering the edge then there's a straight direct line from Japan to Hawaii just like in the real global earth.



What reply # has this alleged map of Flat Earth to which you refer?

Anyway, I want to see Funkcreep's map too because I just know his map will be more awesome than any other map ever in history. Because, he's so awesome!

Team Funkcreep!



Reply 156.
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Reply #368 posted 08/25/15 3:12pm

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morningsong said:



Funkcreep said:




morningsong said:


Image result for south pole pictures

Image result for south pole pictures

Image result for south pole pictures
Image result for fuchs south pole pictures
The non-existing South Pole.




Very cool pictures. I can imagine what a beating i would take if my only evidence was anectdotal. I would be burned alive!



I try to stick with science and physics, like the video i just posted "Balls out physics Episode 1: Planes flying on a spinning ball"



So how come our evidence isn't true, but your evidence is the absolute truth? This can go in circles forever like that, which is why I personally fall out of these conversations, early.

A guy in my own city, a private citizen, in his own plane, took off in May,2015 over the pacific ocean, flew over asia, and europe, then over the atlantic ocean, across the US until he arrived home again, in August, 2015. Either he did it or he's lying. You can't fly over both oceans in a continuous flight unless you back track on a flat surface, there's no amount of physics to account for that.



Actually. I've already semi addressed that. Look at the map in reply 156. Suppose you take off from NYC across the Atlantic but maintain a very slight almost imperceptible left hand turn, you'd traverse a huge circle which would cross everywhere you'd expect to and then return home over the Pacific and mainland U.S.
I assume this is how a more knowledgeable flat earther than Funkcreep would explain it (he didn't even know what the Bedford Levels experiment was, their biggest argument for a flat earth)

The question is how they would explain pilots believing they are flying straight and not being instrumentally aware of the slow circle they are traveling.

My best guesses were conspiratorial instrument makers.
Or something something quantum something something dark energy.
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Reply #369 posted 08/25/15 4:01pm

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lust said:

RodeoSchro said:



What reply # has this alleged map of Flat Earth to which you refer?

Anyway, I want to see Funkcreep's map too because I just know his map will be more awesome than any other map ever in history. Because, he's so awesome!

Team Funkcreep!

Reply 156.



Flat Earth? That looks like Squished Earth!

But I can see how you could get from Tokyo to Honolulu without going around Africa if the Earth was squished like that.

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Reply #370 posted 08/25/15 4:07pm

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lust said:

RodeoSchro said:



Yep! I can't wait to see the Flat Earth map! Keep on being awesome! highfive

Rodeo. You've lost me here. If the flat earth map Is the one with the North Pole in the middle and Antarctica bordering the edge then there's a straight direct line from Japan to Hawaii just like in the real global earth.

You stole my thunder Lust! DAMN!!!

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Reply #371 posted 08/25/15 4:12pm

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lust said:

morningsong said:

So how come our evidence isn't true, but your evidence is the absolute truth? This can go in circles forever like that, which is why I personally fall out of these conversations, early.

A guy in my own city, a private citizen, in his own plane, took off in May,2015 over the pacific ocean, flew over asia, and europe, then over the atlantic ocean, across the US until he arrived home again, in August, 2015. Either he did it or he's lying. You can't fly over both oceans in a continuous flight unless you back track on a flat surface, there's no amount of physics to account for that.

Actually. I've already semi addressed that. Look at the map in reply 156. Suppose you take off from NYC across the Atlantic but maintain a very slight almost imperceptible left hand turn, you'd traverse a huge circle which would cross everywhere you'd expect to and then return home over the Pacific and mainland U.S. I assume this is how a more knowledgeable flat earther than Funkcreep would explain it (he didn't even know what the Bedford Levels experiment was, their biggest argument for a flat earth) The question is how they would explain pilots believing they are flying straight and not being instrumentally aware of the slow circle they are traveling. My best guesses were conspiratorial instrument makers. Or something something quantum something something dark energy.

He'd be flying elliptical, looks like he'd be over the Pacific Ocean for a very long time to get any kind of curves. I can't tell where Hawaii is, if its where I think it is on that map it is not aligned in any kind of way with the Asian countries you have to go to way West then come back East to get to Asia. And why not simply fly up the coast past Canada straight up to Asia, because on the flat map these countries are not West of where he started from but kind of North, I think. Or is Hawaii kind of South of his starting point? Maybe we need an indication of which way directions are so we can get an idea of North, West, South, East, North by Northwest and stuff like that. So is Africa, east or South? And the equator would be?



Now I'm back to something that's probably gotten some weird answer like how the sun goes below the horizon where it appears larger due to optical illusions as oppose to shifting positions in the sky moving further away where it should appear smaller and smaller until it's light fades?

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Reply #372 posted 08/25/15 4:45pm

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Phishanga said:

Please do.

As a 190 lb man living in the northern hemisphere I need X amount of gravitational force to keep me fixed to the Earth, yet to keep 1000's of tons of water in the southern hemisphere the gravitational forces would be greater. Please explain how gravity knows the difference needed of gravitational forces between 190 lbs and 1000's of tons?

You do realize according to the made up Law of Gravity you don't actually weigh 190lbs, that is just your weight in relationship to the amount of force that gravity is pulling on you to hold you to the surface, the greater the mass the higher the force, therefore a larger mass of water has a higher gravitational force giving it more weight or some such nonsense.

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Reply #373 posted 08/25/15 4:47pm

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I have a couple of questions about this flat earth. What is on the underside of the earth, How are mountains made and what about volcanoes where is the lava coming from. How come no one has ever drilled a hole through the earth. Where is all this oil coming from? What about earth quakes how are the tectonic plates moving and why?

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Reply #374 posted 08/25/15 4:50pm

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morningsong said:

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As a 190 lb man living in the northern hemisphere I need X amount of gravitational force to keep me fixed to the Earth, yet to keep 1000's of tons of water in the southern hemisphere the gravitational forces would be greater. Please explain how gravity knows the difference needed of gravitational forces between 190 lbs and 1000's of tons?

You do realize according to the made up Law of Gravity you don't actually weigh 190lbs, that is just your weight in relationship to the amount of force that gravity is pulling on you to hold you to the surface, the greater the mass the higher the force, therefore a larger mass of water has a higher gravitational force giving it more weight or some such nonsense.

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Reply #375 posted 08/25/15 4:50pm

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Reply #376 posted 08/25/15 5:14pm

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I have a couple of questions about this flat earth. What is on the underside of the earth, How are mountains made and what about volcanoes where is the lava coming from. How come no one has ever drilled a hole through the earth. Where is all this oil coming from? What about earth quakes how are the tectonic plates moving and why?

I don't know...these are good questions. I would ask Lust, he's the one with the learnin round these neck of the woods!

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Reply #377 posted 08/25/15 5:25pm

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Oh no boo, you need to present the entire map not a piece. According to your map Russia is south (or north, because you go north then eventually your heading south, based on the arctic circle) of Canada, since its all smudgy and worn one cant see the distance between the two, or anything written in that area, very convenient.

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Reply #378 posted 08/25/15 5:30pm

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What the fuck is "Honnollu"? lol
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Reply #379 posted 08/25/15 5:38pm

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What the fuck is "Honnollu"? lol

It's a typo...it should have read Honolulu...it's a city in Hawaii.

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Reply #380 posted 08/25/15 5:41pm

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Oh no boo, you need to present the entire map not a piece. According to your map Russia is south (or north, because you go north then eventually your heading south, based on the arctic circle) of Canada, since its all smudgy and worn one cant see the distance between the two, or anything written in that area, very convenient.

That's not problematic. That's how a globe looks when viewed from above. Though viewed from directly above, you'd only see as far down as the equator.

Actually, that illustrates the point I made earlier. Look at the equator line. If you travelled along that line, you'd circumnavigate the earth and see the same places and get back to the starting point in excactly the same way whether you were on a globe or on this flat earth model. The same goes for any of the latitudes on the proviso that you are making a slight turn which is actually what you are doing on the global earth at all latitudes except the equator.

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Reply #381 posted 08/25/15 5:44pm

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lust said:

Funkcreep said: What the fuck is "Honnollu"? lol

It's a typo...it should have read Honolulu...it's a city in Hawaii.

You typed it? Oh, great font you've got there.

Thanks for the explanation though. Wouldn't have guessed whyat you meant otherwise!

I've been there, have you?

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Reply #382 posted 08/25/15 5:53pm

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Image result for top view of globeImage result for north pole view

Still looks like distance issues to me.


Now I get where this is coming from. Yeah I don't understand these theories in math, but it seems you can manipulate the projection to make all kinds of imaginative arguments.

Below we show the equal area projection from a point of view above the North Pole. Note that the equations given above involve a division by zero if we specify the reference latitude as 90 degrees. We can get around this using a traperror command as we have done elsewhere but in this case we avoid the problem by using a latitude that is just slightly less than 90 degrees. The resulting projection is not affected by this simple minded trick. Note, further, that the grid is constructed separately in order to avoid the appearance of some spurious lines that would otherwise appear.

> p1:=changecoords(world[ng,50], `Azimuthal equal area`(1,89.999)):

> p2 := removelines(coordplot(`Azimuthal equal area`(1,89.999),scaling=constrained)):

> plots[display]({p1,p2});

[Maple Plot]

Note how the entire surface of the earth fits into a circle. Viewed from the North Pole as done here we see that the outer "circle" is, in fact, the outline of Antarctica. Below is the equal area projection from the equator centered on North and South America.

> p1:=changecoords(world[50], `Azimuthal equal area`(1,0,-90)):

> plots[display]({p1});



http://www.maplesoft.com/...view=html

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Reply #383 posted 08/25/15 6:00pm

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Oh no boo, you need to present the entire map not a piece. According to your map Russia is south (or north, because you go north then eventually your heading south, based on the arctic circle) of Canada, since its all smudgy and worn one cant see the distance between the two, or anything written in that area, very convenient.

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Reply #384 posted 08/25/15 6:11pm

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lust said:

Funkcreep said:

It's a typo...it should have read Honolulu...it's a city in Hawaii.

You typed it? Oh, great font you've got there.

Thanks for the explanation though. Wouldn't have guessed whyat you meant otherwise!

I've been there, have you?

I've never been to Hawaii. It was an option for me and the wife's 25th anniversary but we decided on a Caribbean cruise in late October of this year. I'll be sure to take pictures from the plane and how much you wanna bet the horizon will rise to eye level while we're up in the big bird? We're gonna fly in to Florida..then hit Jamaica, Caymen Islands, then Mexico.

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Reply #385 posted 08/25/15 6:16pm

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lust said:

You typed it? Oh, great font you've got there.

Thanks for the explanation though. Wouldn't have guessed whyat you meant otherwise!

I've been there, have you?

I've never been to Hawaii. It was an option for me and the wife's 25th anniversary but we decided on a Caribbean cruise in late October of this year. I'll be sure to take pictures from the plane and how much you wanna bet the horizon will rise to eye level while we're up in the big bird? We're gonna fly in to Florida..then hit Jamaica, Caymen Islands, then Mexico.

That sounds awesome. Whilst onboard the cruise, make time to watch the horizon, see land mass rise up as you get closer. Look at vessels on the horizon from a low deck and then the top deck.

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Reply #386 posted 08/25/15 6:17pm

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How can someone look at a photo like this and fail to see the truth of the flat Earth?

It is so painfully clear that the entire design of this system is meant to keep us from the "edges". It takes a certain kind of person to see that ice sheet and WANT to try and cross it. Clearly, there are many who would try... despite the obvious perils. Which is why it is protected by so many nations (supposed enemies). I would need no other proof that a massive deception is afoot than this simple fact: An explorer, using their own money and resources and risking their own life cannot attempt to cross the ice.... why would any military care if some idiot falls in an ice crevice unless there is a massive secret to be found out there?

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Reply #387 posted 08/25/15 6:20pm

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lust said:

Funkcreep said:

I've never been to Hawaii. It was an option for me and the wife's 25th anniversary but we decided on a Caribbean cruise in late October of this year. I'll be sure to take pictures from the plane and how much you wanna bet the horizon will rise to eye level while we're up in the big bird? We're gonna fly in to Florida..then hit Jamaica, Caymen Islands, then Mexico.

That sounds awesome. Whilst onboard the cruise, make time to watch the horizon, see land mass rise up as you get closer. Look at vessels on the horizon from a low deck and then the top deck.

Yeah will do...I plan on taking my high powered bincoculars. Will ask the captain how far we are from land and then try and see the destination or landmark from 40-50 miles away..to prove the no curvature out on the sea. I'm gonna document all this to satisfy my own curiosity. It's one thing to read it in a book and another to live it.

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Reply #388 posted 08/25/15 6:29pm

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Reply #389 posted 08/25/15 6:39pm

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How can someone look at a photo like this and fail to see the truth of the flat Earth?

It is so painfully clear that the entire design of this system is meant to keep us from the "edges". It takes a certain kind of person to see that ice sheet and WANT to try and cross it. Clearly, there are many who would try... despite the obvious perils. Which is why it is protected by so many nations (supposed enemies). I would need no other proof that a massive deception is afoot than this simple fact: An explorer, using their own money and resources and risking their own life cannot attempt to cross the ice.... why would any military care if some idiot falls in an ice crevice unless there is a massive secret to be found out there?

Where is that?

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