nammie said:

Here is a great example beween me Pl, SD, XXl, and myself on how we can have different views, ask quesions on the same topic, NOT call each other names and inflame each other while giving our individual point of view. Take note ORG LOL

Tell me about it, this would really be helpful in the politics & religion forum

paintedlady said:

ScarletScandal said:

...but she hit him first...

Seriously???

Women aren't physical equals to men for the most part. Men tend to be stronger, so a man punching a woman pretty much seals it for her and she will usually get her lights knocked out... especially if said dude is an althlete. Only a bully would hit a woman.

Its not an even match.... so MEN are supposed to walk away when a woman is acting foolish enough to think she can take on a guy. If she persists, then he is to call police and press charges.

If she is abusive and can't keep her hands to herself then she needs to be cut off and deemed undatable.

It is a pure punk move for a guy to hit a woman under any circumstance... with the ONLY exception being if his life is in danger.

BUT... YOU should already know this!

But it's different in the gay world, he says

Can you imagine what he will do to her once they get home? You better believe she will get the beating of her life for it. Blaming her for being fired from the NFL and all the negativity, etc.

Glad the CFL said they won't let him play for them either.

SeventeenDayze said:

nammie said:

Here is a great example beween me Pl, SD, XXl, and myself on how we can have different views, ask quesions on the same topic, NOT call each other names and inflame each other while giving our individual point of view. Take note ORG LOL

Tell me about it, this would really be helpful in the politics & religion forum

Try Prince music and more forum. At each other's throats, before the new cd's even came out

luv4u said:

Can you imagine what he will do to her once they get home? You better believe she will get the beating of her life for it. Blaming her for being fired from the NFL and all the negativity, etc.

Glad the CFL said they won't let him play for them either.

I was hoping if Ray Rice did go to the CFL he would take Justin Bieber with him (but drop him off in some remote part of the Yukon to be never seen again).

SeventeenDayze said:

TonyVanDam said:

I agree with all 5 of your points. But you forgot about "classism". It's not an official word in the American English dictionary, but it needs to be. The issue of class (especially rich VS. poor) can never be overlooked.

Yes, Tony. This classism issue is especially a problem in the American so-called judicial system. If Ray Rice were the average broke negro, he'd be under a jail by now, especially if Janay was the mayor's daughter or something to that effect!

If Janay was a white woman, Ray would have been crucified far worse than OJ Simpson. And you know those racist white nationists (EXAMPLES: registered Stormfront members) are looking for more excuses to justify their resentment of black men all the time.

ScarletScandal said:

...but she hit him first...

Not according to the uncut footage from inside the elevator. Ray slapped Janay first, then Janay charge at Ray in an attempt to fight back, and then Ray knocked Janay out with a left punch. That video is still on YouTube and it's hard to watch.

luv4u said:

Can you imagine what he will do to her once they get home? You better believe she will get the beating of her life for it. Blaming her for being fired from the NFL and all the negativity, etc.

Glad the CFL said they won't let him play for them either.

I wonder if Arena Football (AFL) will take the same stance?

Beautifulstarr123 said:

paintedlady said:

Seriously???

Women aren't physical equals to men for the most part. Men tend to be stronger, so a man punching a woman pretty much seals it for her and she will usually get her lights knocked out... especially if said dude is an althlete. Only a bully would hit a woman.

Its not an even match.... so MEN are supposed to walk away when a woman is acting foolish enough to think she can take on a guy. If she persists, then he is to call police and press charges.

If she is abusive and can't keep her hands to herself then she needs to be cut off and deemed undatable.

It is a pure punk move for a guy to hit a woman under any circumstance... with the ONLY exception being if his life is in danger.

BUT... YOU should already know this!

But it's different in the gay world, he says

It will be interesting to see the reaction to a prominent gay or lesbian couple caught in similar situation. I've read that domestic abuse in gay and lesbian couples occur at the same rate as heterosexual couples.

Also, can people lay off Janay Rice. Just because her choices about her private life doesn't fit some peoples moral narrative, isn't an excuse to viciously attack her character. Remember she is the victim here. Why don't you concentrate your anger on Ray Rice, the NFL, and the local law enforcement?

paintedlady said:

ScarletScandal said:

...but she hit him first...

Seriously???

Women aren't physical equals to men for the most part. Men tend to be stronger, so a man punching a woman pretty much seals it for her and she will usually get her lights knocked out... especially if said dude is an althlete. Only a bully would hit a woman.

Its not an even match.... so MEN are supposed to walk away when a woman is acting foolish enough to think she can take on a guy. If she persists, then he is to call police and press charges.

If she is abusive and can't keep her hands to herself then she needs to be cut off and deemed undatable.

It is a pure punk move for a guy to hit a woman under any circumstance... with the ONLY exception being if his life is in danger.

BUT... YOU should already know this!

I agree with all of this. Maybe we see her hitting him after she has been fed up from him comtinuously hitting her over a period of time and she decided to finally hit him back. We don't have the whole story and even without the whole story, I co-sign with what Sandra said.

kpowers said:

luv4u said:

Can you imagine what he will do to her once they get home? You better believe she will get the beating of her life for it. Blaming her for being fired from the NFL and all the negativity, etc.

Glad the CFL said they won't let him play for them either.

I was hoping if Ray Rice did go to the CFL he would take Justin Bieber with him (but drop him off in some remote part of the Yukon to be never seen again).

Oh hell no! Beiber is a train wreck.

I was in an abusive relationship

they don't change

hopefully she will come

to realize this before it's too late

lrn36 said:

Beautifulstarr123 said:

But it's different in the gay world, he says

It will be interesting to see the reaction to a prominent gay or lesbian couple caught in similar situation. I've read that domestic abuse in gay and lesbian couples occur at the same rate as heterosexual couples.

Also, can people lay off Janay Rice. Just because her choices about her private life doesn't fit some peoples moral narrative, isn't an excuse to viciously attack her character. Remember she is the victim here. Why don't you concentrate your anger on Ray Rice, the NFL, and the local law enforcement?

I was being sarcastic, dear. I am aware of domestic abuse in gay communities. Shouldn't you be directing these comments at ScarletScandal?

Besides N.O.W., I just heard Congress is sticking their noses in this. Nothing but grandstanding. Don't those assclowns have bigger things to worry about?

uPtoWnNY said:

Besides N.O.W., I just heard Congress is sticking their noses in this. Nothing but grandstanding. Don't those assclowns have bigger things to worry about?

You mean silly little things like voting on another war? Fat chance. They are avoiding that decision like the plague in spite of the constitution.

We need to organize and vote every one of those bastids out if they stick their noses into this while we piss away more blood and treasure abroad.

babynoz said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Besides N.O.W., I just heard Congress is sticking their noses in this. Nothing but grandstanding. Don't those assclowns have bigger things to worry about?

You mean silly little things like voting on another war? Fat chance. They are avoiding that decision like the plague in spite of the constitution.

We need to organize and vote every one of those bastids out if they stick their noses into this while we piss away more blood and treasure abroad.

America is easily distracted.

Beautifulstarr123 said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Tell me about it, this would really be helpful in the politics & religion forum

Try Prince music and more forum. At each other's throats, before the new cd's even came out

Why am I not surprised one bit?

TonyVanDam said:

luv4u said:

Can you imagine what he will do to her once they get home? You better believe she will get the beating of her life for it. Blaming her for being fired from the NFL and all the negativity, etc.

Glad the CFL said they won't let him play for them either.

I wonder if Arena Football (AFL) will take the same stance?

Probably will have the same reaction. He can consider himself as a communist in Hollywood in the 1950s....I don't like using words like "blacklisted" for obvious reasons!

Graycap23 said:

babynoz said:

You mean silly little things like voting on another war? Fat chance. They are avoiding that decision like the plague in spite of the constitution.

We need to organize and vote every one of those bastids out if they stick their noses into this while we piss away more blood and treasure abroad.

America is easily distracted.

That's true....but I don't play dat!

I just sent the esteemed Senator Blumenthal the following email...

Dear Senator Blumenthal,

With yet another foreign conflict on the horizon I was quite appalled by the suggestion of congressional involvement in a matter that is between Mr Rice, his family, his employer and law enforcement.

I suggest that congress should first concern itself with matters more within it's purview such as war powers before grandstanding yet again over social issues that it has no constitutional mandate to become involved in.

Regards,

If anybody else would care to remind these SOBs what they are paid for here's the link if you don't live in his district you'll have to call or FB him....

https://www.facebook.com/SenBlumenthal

babynoz said:

Graycap23 said:

America is easily distracted.

That's true....but I don't play dat!

I just sent the esteemed Senator Blumenthal the following email...

Dear Senator Blumenthal,

With yet another foreign conflict on the horizon I was quite appalled by the suggestion of congressional involvement in a matter that is between Mr Rice, his family, his employer and law enforcement.

I suggest that congress should first concern itself with matters more within it's purview such as war powers before grandstanding yet again over social issues that it has no constitutional mandate to become involved in.

Regards,

If anybody else would care to remind these SOBs what they are paid for here's the link if you don't live in his district you'll have to call or FB him....

https://www.facebook.com/SenBlumenthal

It was reported yesterday that Ray Rice had lost the support of all his former Ravens teammates.

Hats off to them for abandoning that pussy.

RodeoSchro said:

It was reported yesterday that Ray Rice had lost the support of all his former Ravens teammates.

Hats off to them for abandoning that pussy.

Even Ray Lewis

luv4u said:

kpowers said:

I was hoping if Ray Rice did go to the CFL he would take Justin Bieber with him (but drop him off in some remote part of the Yukon to be never seen again).

Oh hell no! Beiber is a train wreck.

I did say a remote part of the Yukon that way he does not bother my Canadian friends.

kpowers said:

RodeoSchro said:

It was reported yesterday that Ray Rice had lost the support of all his former Ravens teammates.

Hats off to them for abandoning that pussy.

Even Ray Lewis

ESPECIALLY Ray Lewis, LOL. He dropped Rice like a hot potato on the Sunday pre-game show.

RodeoSchro said:

kpowers said:

Even Ray Lewis

ESPECIALLY Ray Lewis, LOL. He dropped Rice like a hot potato on the Sunday pre-game show.

Awww man I gotta see that now

[Edited 9/10/14 13:59pm]

Althoug some on this thread would have you believe Ray Rice's pussified punchout of his then-fiance is no one else's business, those who work the National Domestic Violence Hotline would beg to differ:

http://www.huffingtonpost...1410369898

The National Domestic Violence Hotline has seen an 84 percent increase in phone calls in the two days since a video leaked of former NFL player Ray Rice knocking his then-fiancée unconscious in an elevator.

Katie Ray-Jones, the CEO of the hotline, said it normally receives 500 to 600 calls a day from domestic violence victims and their concerned friends or family members. But after the Rice video was circulated online Monday, the hotline received over 1,000 phone calls. The numbers continued to climb on Tuesday.

"We had an outpouring of women saying, 'Oh my god, I didn't realize this happened to other people.' They thought they were living a life that was very unique to them," Ray-Jones told The Huffington Post. "One woman called in who is married to a [mixed martial arts] fighter. She said, 'I just saw that video, and I know my husband could do worse, and I need help."

Ray-Jones said the hotline does not have enough advocates on staff to field the calls, which continue all night long. There are 15 to 18 staff members answering calls during the day and seven or eight overnight, but they were already overwhelmed before the surge of calls began earlier this week. The hotline also has a "relief staff pool," but it doesn't have the financial resources to sustain it for any significant period of time.

kpowers said:

RodeoSchro said:

ESPECIALLY Ray Lewis, LOL. He dropped Rice like a hot potato on the Sunday pre-game show.

Awww man I gotta see that now

[Edited 9/10/14 13:59pm]

He was asked on a pre-game show if Ray Rice's situation was anything like the murder in which he was present/part of/in the wrong place for, and he very emphatically said it was not.

kpowers said:

RodeoSchro said:

It was reported yesterday that Ray Rice had lost the support of all his former Ravens teammates.

Hats off to them for abandoning that pussy.

Even Ray Lewis

Interesting because I heard an earlier report saying the contrary. I guess the venom is spreading and people are jumping ship left and right.

RodeoSchro said:

kpowers said:

Awww man I gotta see that now

[Edited 9/10/14 13:59pm]

He was asked on a pre-game show if Ray Rice's situation was anything like the murder in which he was present/part of/in the wrong place for, and he very emphatically said it was not.

SeventeenDayze said:

kpowers said:

Even Ray Lewis

Interesting because I heard an earlier report saying the contrary. I guess the venom is spreading and people are jumping ship left and right.

Are you saying it's wrong that people are abandoning Ray Rice?