never truly understood it...

I mean, the hysterical reaction of females in front of hot movie / music stars, from the Beatlesmania to the cult of Justin Bieber (and all of the examples in between, Clooney, Pitt, DiCaprio, etc)

I know (hell, I KNOW) males tend to objectify hot women, and their relation to female celebrities is mostly (a)sexual (hence, a frustration)

but what about girls/women? are they expressing (venting!) a frustration related to the impossibility to acquire a male celebrity (fame, money, status, security, intelligence)? is that why they cry???

that's my theory...

I'd appreciate female and male answers

thank you

discuss

[Edited 2/24/14 15:14pm]

its not grown women, it's preteens and teens that are the ones experiencing this hysteria - the screaming and crying (I've been to concerts where the older ladies are happy and dancing and dressed up in their tight clothes, but they aren't crying!! )

Here is a way the young girls can express the way they feel AND be part of a community.

Hormones play a big part in their emotional rollercoaster. The crying - I know that part can sometimes be explicable, happens to me if I see a pod of dolphins or a whale swim past LOL, I'd blame that on the hormones for sure.

A girl can't behave that way with a REAL cute guy in their life it is a behaviour best directed to the unattainable - for her own safety.

Guys have got their sports to express the way they feel AND be part of a community (don't tell me emotions don't get involved there!)

ZombieKitten said:

its not grown women, it's preteens and teens that are the ones experiencing this hysteria - the screaming and crying (I've been to concerts where the older ladies are happy and dancing and dressed up in their tight clothes, but they aren't crying!! )

Here is a way the young girls can express the way they feel AND be part of a community.

Hormones play a big part in their emotional rollercoaster. The crying - I know that part can sometimes be explicable, happens to me if I see a pod of dolphins or a whale swim past LOL, I'd blame that on the hormones for sure.

A girl can't behave that way with a REAL cute guy in their life it is a behaviour best directed to the unattainable - for her own safety.

Guys have got their sports to express the way they feel AND be part of a community (don't tell me emotions don't get involved there!)

LOL excellent point. I sit quietly confused as people literally applaud and holler at a television when their team makes a good play or scream at a ref who can't hear them

ZombieKitten said:

its not grown women, it's preteens and teens that are the ones experiencing this hysteria - the screaming and crying (I've been to concerts where the older ladies are happy and dancing and dressed up in their tight clothes, but they aren't crying!! )

Here is a way the young girls can express the way they feel AND be part of a community.

Hormones play a big part in their emotional rollercoaster. The crying - I know that part can sometimes be explicable, happens to me if I see a pod of dolphins or a whale swim past LOL, I'd blame that on the hormones for sure.

A girl can't behave that way with a REAL cute guy in their life it is a behaviour best directed to the unattainable - for her own safety.

Guys have got their sports to express the way they feel AND be part of a community (don't tell me emotions don't get involved there!)

are you implying that's there's some hidden sexual energy between boys when they watch sports

sounds like fun...

JoeTyler said:

ZombieKitten said:

its not grown women, it's preteens and teens that are the ones experiencing this hysteria - the screaming and crying (I've been to concerts where the older ladies are happy and dancing and dressed up in their tight clothes, but they aren't crying!! )

Here is a way the young girls can express the way they feel AND be part of a community.

Hormones play a big part in their emotional rollercoaster. The crying - I know that part can sometimes be explicable, happens to me if I see a pod of dolphins or a whale swim past LOL, I'd blame that on the hormones for sure.

A girl can't behave that way with a REAL cute guy in their life it is a behaviour best directed to the unattainable - for her own safety.

Guys have got their sports to express the way they feel AND be part of a community (don't tell me emotions don't get involved there!)

This makes sense, but I don't know about the argument it's not grown women, too. Remember that woman who released a flock of doves when Michael Jackson was aquitted for molestation? Also, a couple years back, I was at a Toronto International Film Fest premier of a Michael Fassbender movie. He was there, and the second he walked through the door of the theatre, about two or three women fainted -- and one of them was so bad off that she needed to be rushed to hospital. I couldn't believe it.

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Lammastide said:

ZombieKitten said:

its not grown women, it's preteens and teens that are the ones experiencing this hysteria - the screaming and crying (I've been to concerts where the older ladies are happy and dancing and dressed up in their tight clothes, but they aren't crying!! )

Here is a way the young girls can express the way they feel AND be part of a community.

Hormones play a big part in their emotional rollercoaster. The crying - I know that part can sometimes be explicable, happens to me if I see a pod of dolphins or a whale swim past LOL, I'd blame that on the hormones for sure.

A girl can't behave that way with a REAL cute guy in their life it is a behaviour best directed to the unattainable - for her own safety.

Guys have got their sports to express the way they feel AND be part of a community (don't tell me emotions don't get involved there!)

This makes sense, but I don't know about the argument it's not grown women, too. Remember that woman who released a flock of doves when Michael Jackson was aquitted for molestation? Also, a couple years back, I was at a Toronto International Film Fest premier of a Michael Fassbender movie. The second he walked through the door of the theatre, about two or three women fainted -- and one of them was so bad off that she needed to be rushed to hospital. I couldn't believe it.

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Isolated cases of extreme fandom? In Michael Jackson's case, there are plenty of fanatics of both sexes.

ZombieKitten said:

JoeTyler said:

are you implying that's there's some hidden sexual energy between boys when they watch sports

sounds like fun...

all that kissing and hugging at the soccer? There is camaraderie and closeness and connection that is legitimately expressed. I'm actually not implying it because I don't believe it's a sexual energy with the young girls and their hysteria, it's emotional - feeling loved, understood and special by the Biebster - apart from their parents, these girls are searching for that feeling and until they start a real relationship, these yearnings are kind of misdirected at their poster boys.

Totally agree. There's attraction there, but it's not really sexual.

Reminds me of a story I read in one of Ben Elton's books once....apparently the security at arenas in the UK use to complain about the smell when boy-bands like Take That and Boyzone were in town and 15,000 hormonal teens were packed in there.

Apparently the "south of the border" odour from that many "interested" gals was particularly pungent!

JoeTyler said:

never truly understood it...

I mean, the hysterical reaction of females in front of hot movie / music stars, from the Beatlesmania to the cult of Justin Bieber (and all of the examples in between, Clooney, Pitt, DiCaprio, etc)

I know (hell, I KNOW) males tend to objectify hot women, and their relation to female celebrities is mostly (a)sexual (hence, a frustration)

but what about girls/women? are they expressing (venting!) a frustration related to the impossibility to acquire a male celebrity (fame, money, status, security, intelligence)? is that why they cry???

that's my theory...

I'd appreciate female and male answers

thank you

discuss

[Edited 2/24/14 15:14pm]

You're late.

Read any book on female psychology starting with...oh, I dunno 'The Female Brain', by Louannn Brizendine....really is not a good idea NOT to be cognisant of female psychology given the current state they're in.

If you're a 'gay' male...don't worry about it.

JoeTyler said:

never truly understood it...

I mean, the hysterical reaction of females in front of hot movie / music stars, from the Beatlesmania to the cult of Justin Bieber (and all of the examples in between, Clooney, Pitt, DiCaprio, etc)

I know (hell, I KNOW) males tend to objectify hot women, and their relation to female celebrities is mostly (a)sexual (hence, a frustration)

but what about girls/women? are they expressing (venting!) a frustration related to the impossibility to acquire a male celebrity (fame, money, status, security, intelligence)? is that why they cry???

that's my theory...

I'd appreciate female and male answers

thank you

discuss

[Edited 2/24/14 15:14pm]

It's sort of like men who worship sports celebraties. Screaming females is akin to men who hoop and holla at football games, basketball games, and nascar racing. I think tho that men take sports celebrity worship to a level women don't...like attending football games barechested in 15 degree weather...that's past worship, that's insanity.

'Insanity' from a female perspective pontificating on the motivations of men...to be exact.

They're just really enthusiastic!

ZombieKitten said:

Lammastide said:

This makes sense, but I don't know about the argument it's not grown women, too. Remember that woman who released a flock of doves when Michael Jackson was aquitted for molestation? Also, a couple years back, I was at a Toronto International Film Fest premier of a Michael Fassbender movie. The second he walked through the door of the theatre, about two or three women fainted -- and one of them was so bad off that she needed to be rushed to hospital. I couldn't believe it.

[Edited 2/24/14 19:01pm]

Isolated cases of extreme fandom? In Michael Jackson's case, there are plenty of fanatics of both sexes.

Those super intense MJ fanatics were exceptional. They'd pass out everytime he blinked his eyes on stage.


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thekidsgirl said:

ZombieKitten said:

Isolated cases of extreme fandom? In Michael Jackson's case, there are plenty of fanatics of both sexes.

Those super intense MJ fanatics were exceptional. They'd pass out everytime he blinked his eyes on stage.


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[Edited 2/25/14 16:42pm]

Elvis, The beatles, the doors, The Rollingstones all had that element.

kewlschool said:

thekidsgirl said:

Those super intense MJ fanatics were exceptional. They'd pass out everytime he blinked his eyes on stage.


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[Edited 2/25/14 16:42pm]

Elvis, The beatles, the doors, The Rollingstones all had that element.

what about the ones that try to kill the object of their obsession or kill FOR the object of their obsession

ZombieKitten said:

kewlschool said:

Elvis, The beatles, the doors, The Rollingstones all had that element.

what about the ones that try to kill the object of their obsession or kill FOR the object of their obsession

Normally against that sort of thing although with Beiber or C. Brown I may look the other way. (Okay bad joke-I'm against the wasting of all lives even douches.)

SweeTeaII said:

JoeTyler said:

never truly understood it...

I mean, the hysterical reaction of females in front of hot movie / music stars, from the Beatlesmania to the cult of Justin Bieber (and all of the examples in between, Clooney, Pitt, DiCaprio, etc)

I know (hell, I KNOW) males tend to objectify hot women, and their relation to female celebrities is mostly (a)sexual (hence, a frustration)

but what about girls/women? are they expressing (venting!) a frustration related to the impossibility to acquire a male celebrity (fame, money, status, security, intelligence)? is that why they cry???

that's my theory...

I'd appreciate female and male answers

thank you

discuss

[Edited 2/24/14 15:14pm]

It's sort of like men who worship sports celebraties. Screaming females is akin to men who hoop and holla at football games, basketball games, and nascar racing. I think tho that men take sports celebrity worship to a level women don't...like attending football games barechested in 15 degree weather...that's past worship, that's insanity.

Exactly.

ZombieKitten said:

its not grown women, it's preteens and teens that are the ones experiencing this hysteria - the screaming and crying (I've been to concerts where the older ladies are happy and dancing and dressed up in their tight clothes, but they aren't crying!! )

Here is a way the young girls can express the way they feel AND be part of a community.

Hormones play a big part in their emotional rollercoaster. The crying - I know that part can sometimes be explicable, happens to me if I see a pod of dolphins or a whale swim past LOL, I'd blame that on the hormones for sure.

A girl can't behave that way with a REAL cute guy in their life it is a behaviour best directed to the unattainable - for her own safety.

Guys have got their sports to express the way they feel AND be part of a community (don't tell me emotions don't get involved there!)

Those middle age women that go to Oprah do the same thing

kpowers said:

ZombieKitten said:

kpowers said:

Those middle age women that go to Oprah do the same thing

They have a scream sign and win cars!

They also scream when Oprah says hello

kpowers said:

ZombieKitten said:

kpowers said: They have a scream sign and win cars!

They also scream when Oprah says hello

I've been on TV before, they wind you up before the cameras roll - you get told you HAVE to scream and stuff

ZombieKitten said:

ZombieKitten said:

kpowers said:

They also scream when Oprah says hello

I've been on TV before, they wind you up before the cameras roll - you get told you HAVE to scream and stuff

they are crazy

alphastreet said:

ZombieKitten said:

I've been on TV before, they wind you up before the cameras roll - you get told you HAVE to scream and stuff

That's true as well. A lot of times they ask way before the celebrity appears

On the Letterman show they tell you Dave will have a bad show if you don't go mental for him

Being a squealing teen girl was part of my coming of age...swooning and squealing over a heart throb guy is part of the fun. In my day it was the Jackson Five.

These days the guy has to do something other than look good to get a rise out of me...like a blazing guitar solo or something,

If y'all think that women dont scream over sports you don't wanna be around me during a Steeler game,

babynoz said:

Being a squealing teen girl was part of my coming of age...swooning and squealing over a heart throb guy is part of the fun. In my day it was the Jackson Five.

These days the guy has to do something other than look good to get a rise out of me...like a blazing guitar solo or something,

If y'all think that women dont scream over sports you don't wanna be around me during a Steeler game,

well it was always about the music with me (mj also mine, and of course, jacksons from epic days) being a musician myself and being inspired by the passion, but it took years to realize it was also the swag and some kind of infatuation too, cause the excitement was way too overbearing, and after the death, the grief took much longer to get over than it should have, and had more to do with a personality problem than a person at the end of it all. If people said they wondered why I liked mj looking as he did in 00's, it was deeper than that and they were only seeing it literally. I feel you on guitars!

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Generalised, vitriolic, male bashing...is unnecessary I think.