...and I have never had to do this before.

Any advice as to the best way to do it?

I'm a little nervous....but the bottom line is that I can no longer afford to stay in this position unless I get a substantial raise.

I dont have any advice for you, I just wanted to wish you Good Luck!

Thanks!

I'm a tad lost as every other job I have ever had did yearly reviews and I was always offered a raise but out in this neck of the woods it apparently doesn't work that way.

I'm not too concerned with my work performance as the one and only review I've had was extremely positive. It's just that I have taken on more work in the last 2 years and have not been compensated for it at all.

JustErin said:

...and I have never had to do this before.

Any advice as to the best way to do it?

I'm a little nervous....but the bottom line is that I can no longer afford to stay in this position unless I get a substantial raise.

The best way to ask for a raise to is clearly explain your reasons for it. Explain about the additional duties you've taken on, how much time is used to complete those duties and how you have been able to handle those additional tasks as well as your normal duties. Highlight your knowledge, skills and abilities and how you stand above the "average" employee. Have you attended any workshops, or attended any conferences that have been related to your job? If so, I would mention that as well which shows your willingness to grow in your field but to most importantly demonstrate that you are a marketable and valued employee.

Hope this helps.

Good Luck!

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YAY ERIN

the worse 'vice' in the world is ADVICE

those who give it rarely take it, and in the end,

you don't wanna fail or succeed on someone elses thoughts.

you are compatent and no doubt successful in your work.

your value as an employee aught to be your reason for confidence.

Make sure you have a list of accomplishments and reasons why you deserve a raise

Know your worth.

Good luck!

I read this blog all the time -- it seems to have a lot of useful advice:

http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/outside-voices-careers/2013/05/08/what-your-manager-is-thinking-when-you-ask-for-a-raise

http://www.askamanager.org/2012/08/how-much-should-you-ask-for-when-you-ask-for-a-raise.html

They said the best time to ask for a raise is after lunch about 130pm. You are more likely to get what you ask for according to the studies.

Make it short and sweet.

I have been here X years.

I have received X number of good reviews.

My attendance is .....

I would like a modest raise of $X an hour.

missfee said:

JustErin said:

...and I have never had to do this before.

Any advice as to the best way to do it?

I'm a little nervous....but the bottom line is that I can no longer afford to stay in this position unless I get a substantial raise.

The best way to ask for a raise to is clearly explain your reasons for it. Explain about the additional duties you've taken on, how much time is used to complete those duties and how you have been able to handle those additional tasks as well as your normal duties. Highlight your knowledge, skills and abilities and how you stand above the "average" employee. Have you attended any workshops, or attended any conferences that have been related to your job? If so, I would mention that as well which shows your willingness to grow in your field but to most importantly demonstrate that you are a marketable and valued employee.

Hope this helps.

Good Luck!

[Edited 2/4/14 6:38am]

I had to do this recently, and the only thing I would add is that it helps to research what people in your field & position typically make

JustErin said:

It's just that I have taken on more work in the last 2 years and have not been compensated for it at all.

This is definitely something to focus on, and obviously not on the fact that you can't afford to live on what you're paid. Of course the latter thing is most important to us, just not to them!

The good news is that when you ask you usually get something, even if it's not quite what you want.

So I didn't ask yesterday nor am I asking today as I was asked to attend a presentation at my son's school this morning. I figured on a day I missed an hour of work I probably shouldn't go there.

But I'll ask for a meeting on Monday.

The good news is I have a very good rapport with my boss (and she confides in me a LOT) so talking to her will not be difficult. I'm more nervous about how the big guns will react when she goes to them on my behalf.

[Edited 2/5/14 6:53am]

Don't be nervous, it'll be fine.

Fauxie said:

Don't be nervous, it'll be fine.

Who are you?

WELL???

oh, nevermind. shoulda read some

[Edited 2/5/14 8:59am]

Good luck Erin.

JustErin said:

Fauxie said:

Don't be nervous, it'll be fine.

Who are you?

Fuck. You.

kewlschool said:

I'll ask in April and will get it.

Expecting 50% increase

ZombieKitten said:

kewlschool said:

They said the best time to ask for a raise is after lunch about 130pm. You are more likely to get what you ask for according to the studies.

Really? Interesting! Good luck Erin!!!!

From pages 43-44 of 'thinking fast & slow' by daniel kahneman (a great, great book btw):

"A disturbing demonstration of the depletion effects in judgment was recently reported in the Proceedings of the Journal of the National Academy of Sciences. The unwitting participants in the study were eight parole judges in Israel. They spend entire days reviewing applications for parole. The cases are presendted in random order, and the judges spend little time on each one, an average of 6 minutes. (...only 35% of requests are approved...). The authors of the study plotted the proportion of approved requests against the time since the last food break. The proprtion spikes after each meal, when about 65% of request are granted. During the two hours or so until the judges' next feeding, the approval rate drops steadily, to about zero just before the meal."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.g...MC3084045/

JustErin said:

So I didn't ask yesterday nor am I asking today as I was asked to attend a presentation at my son's school this morning. I figured on a day I missed an hour of work I probably shouldn't go there.

But I'll ask for a meeting on Monday.

The good news is I have a very good rapport with my boss (and she confides in me a LOT) so talking to her will not be difficult. I'm more nervous about how the big guns will react when she goes to them on my behalf.

[Edited 2/5/14 6:53am]

I would recommend that you not do it on Monday or on a friday. Monday is usually a busy day for most offices and a lot of distractions. Friday most bosses are only thinking about the weekend and rolling out early. I think wed or thurs would be a better. I know it sounds crazy. I think when you go to your boss be confident and don't let him see you sweat. I know this next thing sounds bad....but make sure you were something sexy/ professional.....but not too sexy.

[Edited 2/6/14 9:25am]

jaimestarr79 said:

JustErin said:

So I didn't ask yesterday nor am I asking today as I was asked to attend a presentation at my son's school this morning. I figured on a day I missed an hour of work I probably shouldn't go there.

But I'll ask for a meeting on Monday.

The good news is I have a very good rapport with my boss (and she confides in me a LOT) so talking to her will not be difficult. I'm more nervous about how the big guns will react when she goes to them on my behalf.

[Edited 2/5/14 6:53am]

I would recommend that you not do it on Monday or on a friday. Monday is usually a busy day for most offices and a lot of distractions. Friday most bosses are only thinking about the weekend and rolling out early. I think wed or thurs would be a better. I know it sounds crazy. I think when you go to your boss be confident and don't let him see you sweat. I know this next thing sounds bad....but make sure you were something sexy/ professional.....but not too sexy.

[Edited 2/6/14 9:25am]

Ok, I'll wait another couple of days.

Sexiness won't work. My boss is a woman...not that I would want to use any sort of sex appeal at work.

damosuzuki said:

ZombieKitten said:

kewlschool said: Really? Interesting! Good luck Erin!!!!

From pages 43-44 of 'thinking fast & slow' by daniel kahneman (a great, great book btw):

"A disturbing demonstration of the depletion effects in judgment was recently reported in the Proceedings of the Journal of the National Academy of Sciences. The unwitting participants in the study were eight parole judges in Israel. They spend entire days reviewing applications for parole. The cases are presendted in random order, and the judges spend little time on each one, an average of 6 minutes. (...only 35% of requests are approved...). The authors of the study plotted the proportion of approved requests against the time since the last food break. The proprtion spikes after each meal, when about 65% of request are granted. During the two hours or so until the judges' next feeding, the approval rate drops steadily, to about zero just before the meal."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.g...MC3084045/

haha! That's all those carbs giving bosses brain fogs

ThreadCula said:

I'll come back when you tell us you got the raise

Ha!

Glad to see you're still alive!

Did the push up bra work?

If you get your raise, use it to join everyone in Amsterdam this spring.

JustErin said:

jaimestarr79 said:

I would recommend that you not do it on Monday or on a friday. Monday is usually a busy day for most offices and a lot of distractions. Friday most bosses are only thinking about the weekend and rolling out early. I think wed or thurs would be a better. I know it sounds crazy. I think when you go to your boss be confident and don't let him see you sweat. I know this next thing sounds bad....but make sure you were something sexy/ professional.....but not too sexy.

[Edited 2/6/14 9:25am]

Ok, I'll wait another couple of days.

Sexiness won't work. My boss is a woman...not that I would want to use any sort of sex appeal at work.

jaime: sexy? really?

I wanna believe that we live in a modern society where women are promoted because of character/abilities, not because of sexiness...

my advice? show some meaness, better look mean than nervous

sexton said:

If you get your raise, use it to join everyone in Amsterdam this spring.

Who's going in spring? I'm going in summer.

Fauxie said:

sexton said:

If you get your raise, use it to join everyone in Amsterdam this spring.

Who's going in spring? I'm going in summer.

Then you will be in Amsterdam by yourself. Maybe it's different in Thailand, but now that you are back in the U.K., you should know that summer solstice for the rest of the Northern Hemisphere isn't until June 21st.