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Thread started 07/21/13 5:24am

dJJ

Fear of Food

Hi guys,

Lately, I've been interested in Monsanto, as that company is the major player in the world to deliver seeds and pesticides for our food.

And I am still in shock about what I found out.

Now, I'm trying to restrain myself from GMO food and any vegetable, fruit, animal, rice, mais, just anything that has been dealt with Monsanto.

But that is not easy.

Because Monsanto also pays the University of Agriculture in Wageningen, Holland via the Bill Gates Foundation. And that University decides for our government what MOnsanto can and can't do.

Coca Cola, Nestlé, Monsanto and others spend millions in order to prevent the labeling of food as GMO. So, we can't decide what kind of food we buy. Because we don't know if food is GMO or not.

So, how do you guys deal with this?

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Reply #1 posted 07/22/13 8:03am

MacDaddy

There was a global march against Monsanto on may 25th. Over 2 million people worldwide attended. I was at the march against Monsanto in Amsterdam, there was also a march in Wageningen.

I buy only organically grown food. I avoid all processed foods.

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Reply #2 posted 07/22/13 9:18am

XxAxX

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^ that. buy organic! buy local. this is a good time of year to take advantage of local farmers' markets.

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Reply #3 posted 07/22/13 10:09am

aardvark15

yeahthat I often find it tastes better too. Don't get as sick as much as I used to too. The only downfall is that it's often more expensive than the processed equivalents
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Reply #4 posted 07/22/13 10:30am

MacDaddy

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Reply #5 posted 07/22/13 10:53am

morningsong

We have CSAs (Community Supported Agriculture) where you buy a box of produce and/or meat from the local farms. From what I know they're organic and smaller so they don't do mass production styles of farming. The only issues I've encountered is you have to take what they give you, most of the time you get more than you know what to do with, your cooking and preserving skill have to improve, and they do cost a bit more than commercial stores especially when it comes to the meat that might cost you a bit. But it's healthier, you support local business, and you have a bit more control on what you are putting in your mouth.

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Reply #6 posted 07/22/13 10:57am

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I'm not a fan of Monsanto, and I'm opposed to many things they do. But if we're talking about not wanting to eat any genetically modified foods, then you would have to eliminate a whole lot of fruits and vegetables from your diet entirely--like strawberries, bananas, kiwis, corn, tomatoes, etc. I think we have to not let fear of food dictate what we eat and instead turn to reasonable science to make informed choices.

This Ted Talk is 20 minutes, but it really breezes by and it's very informative.

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Reply #7 posted 07/22/13 11:00am

Stymie

I have been trying to figure out what problem the government has with labelling GMOs.

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Reply #8 posted 07/22/13 11:01am

MacDaddy

^
That is the main reason why, in my opinion, you should eat organically grown vegetables and fruits.

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Reply #9 posted 07/22/13 11:13am

aardvark15

Stymie said:

I have been trying to figure out what problem the government has with labelling GMOs.


The government supports groups that support the government. Simple as that.
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Reply #10 posted 07/22/13 11:29am

Genesia

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Efan said:

I'm not a fan of Monsanto, and I'm opposed to many things they do. But if we're talking about not wanting to eat any genetically modified foods, then you would have to eliminate a whole lot of fruits and vegetables from your diet entirely--like strawberries, bananas, kiwis, corn, tomatoes, etc. I think we have to not let fear of food dictate what we eat and instead turn to reasonable science to make informed choices.

This Ted Talk is 20 minutes, but it really breezes by and it's very informative.


Well said - and that video is excellent.

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Reply #11 posted 07/22/13 12:34pm

MacDaddy

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Reply #12 posted 07/22/13 12:41pm

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I am glad its summer time and I can take advantage of organically grown and local produce...

but in the winter, it is going to be hard affording organic veggies and fruits.

The local markets that sell organic produce at high prices. It sucks.

This even includes grains, oils, condiments, juices and yes even dairy-beef. (cows are fed GMO corn) Genetically altered foods are most of what the markets supply at decent prices.

sigh

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Reply #13 posted 07/22/13 12:46pm

MacDaddy

"While government agencies like the FDA keep stalling on demanding rigorous scientific testing of numerous questionable ingredients, GMO foods, and the correct labeling of such foods, PepsiCo has recently agreed to settle out of court for $9 million over a class action lawsuit that claimed ‘natural’ and ‘non-GMO’ on their bottles was misleading since they are made with GMO ingredients, as well as synthetic and ‘unnatural’ items.

Naked juices contain up to 11 different chemicals including: niacinamide, d-alpha tocopherol acetate, cyanocobalamin, and pyridoxine hydrochloride, just to name a few.

And as you may have expected, of course Pepsi Co donated more than $2.5 million dollars to help defeat Proposition 37 in California that would have required companies like Pepsi to label all products that contain GMOs in any form. The ‘Right to Know” ballot was defeated due to special interest groups like Syngenta, Dow, Monsanto, Pepsi Co, and others who helped finance its demise."

http://www.care2.com/causes/gmos-force-naked-juice-to-drop-all-natural-label.html

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Reply #14 posted 07/23/13 7:04am

dJJ

I'm really concerned about the effects of the global intereference of Monsanto with vegetables.

Because Monsanto designs the food to not produce any seeds themselves anymore.

Preventing life from growing.

If you think about it, it really is very scary.

O, and did you know Monsanto has Blackwater now, to protect their company?

It all sounds like a bad Bond movie, but it isn't.

I don't understand why the people accept it that a company is taking over our food.

What if we can't grow any vegetables anymore, because they don't produce seed anymore?

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Reply #15 posted 07/23/13 7:20am

dJJ

Genesia said:

Efan said:

I'm not a fan of Monsanto, and I'm opposed to many things they do. But if we're talking about not wanting to eat any genetically modified foods, then you would have to eliminate a whole lot of fruits and vegetables from your diet entirely--like strawberries, bananas, kiwis, corn, tomatoes, etc. I think we have to not let fear of food dictate what we eat and instead turn to reasonable science to make informed choices.

This Ted Talk is 20 minutes, but it really breezes by and it's very informative.



Well said - and that video is excellent.

Yes, the video is a very good salespitch. And it works with you guys.

What do you think about "The world according to Monsanto"?

or "The seeds of death"?

It's not as easy served as the 20 minute Ted sales talk, but still very informative, imo.

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Reply #16 posted 07/23/13 12:24pm

Efan

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So far, I've only had time to watch the first 20 minutes of The World According to Monsanto, which focused on their business practices...and as I mentioned, I don't like Monsanto, so I'm certainly not going to defend their business practices.

I'm not sure why you reduce this Australian scientist's lecture to a sales pitch.

I buy a lot of organic produce as well, and New York has a lot of farmer's markets that I go to regularly. But organic farmers use pesticides too, and their practices are not always the best for the environment. Shouldn't all organics be labeled according to which pesticides were used so the consumer was fully informed? Would you rather buy an apple that was grown with a lot of organic pesticide or one that used a little synthetic pesticide?

It would be nice if there were just two sides to this, one purely good and one purely evil, but it is decidedly murkier than that, it seems to me.

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Reply #17 posted 07/24/13 4:08am

dJJ

Efan said:

So far, I've only had time to watch the first 20 minutes of The World According to Monsanto, which focused on their business practices...and as I mentioned, I don't like Monsanto, so I'm certainly not going to defend their business practices.

I'm not sure why you reduce this Australian scientist's lecture to a sales pitch.

I buy a lot of organic produce as well, and New York has a lot of farmer's markets that I go to regularly. But organic farmers use pesticides too, and their practices are not always the best for the environment. Shouldn't all organics be labeled according to which pesticides were used so the consumer was fully informed? Would you rather buy an apple that was grown with a lot of organic pesticide or one that used a little synthetic pesticide?

It would be nice if there were just two sides to this, one purely good and one purely evil, but it is decidedly murkier than that, it seems to me.

I agree with you, I would be so happy if all the vegetables are labeled with the kind of pesticides they have treated with.

I know the "world according to Monsanto" is long. So, watching it in chunks of 30 minutes is a very good idea.

And if you've seen that one, you might get interested in knowing more about Monsanto.

For example, why did they buy Blackwater.

A food company doesn't need an army, do they?

I do think there is one very evil company here, and that is Monsanto.

I'm very curious what you think about it, when you've seen some docus about them.

independent ones. Because a journalist from Fox got fired when he wanted to run a story on the milk that was dangerous to drink due to Monsanto's hormones.

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Reply #18 posted 07/27/13 3:37am

MacDaddy

Why are scientists who speak up against against GMO's being censored?

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