Dave1992 said:

Unless of course he agrees its ok that I spend all special occasions snuggling with someone else

I've been thinking, what do folks means by intelligent? An Harvard/Oxford scholar? I know it usually means well read, which again means what, a degree?

Self-taught?

And what is emotionally stable exactly?

I'm not thinking extremes, like an arsonist would be emotionally unstable and most people aren't arsonist so that's got to mean something else.

Just like good-looking is purely subjective, I know my pendulum swings so wildly on that I'd be hard press to pinpoint a type, isn't it the rest of it too?

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SeventeenDayze said:

It seems like more and more lately, I am in places where all the guys are taken or gay. Am I the only woman on the planet who experiences this? LOL

Shit. Where you at?

Chile, the single men on this planet are not all taken, you just knowingly look in the wrong places for love, then consciously choose to lock yourself into non-necessary, crappy situations with those that you do find

Grow up, expand your horizons, and leave the non-available (be it physically or emotionally) men ALONE. You'll see that it will make a huge difference in the quality of your romantic life.

ZombieKitten said:

I don't think I'm super fussy. I do know that should I be on the market again I will NOT be going out with any musicians. A regular guy who has weekends, Christmas, New Years off to spend with me would be wonderful

You need a more successful musician who doesn't only work weekends...or a less successful one who mostly works a day job

ZombieKitten said:

Dave1992 said:

Unless of course he agrees its ok that I spend all special occasions snuggling with someone else

It can be really exhausting not to have any of those days off, but the way I used to handle it was to simply substitute those days for another day when none of us had to work, and we would spend the whole day together and I wouldn't do anything music related or even pick up the phone. It worked somehow.

Stymie said:

Pokeno4Money said:

I may be re-entering the dating pool in the near future, and I am definitely not looking forward to it. Back in the day, women just wanted a guy that cared about them and treated them right and was good husband/father material. Now that women are a lot more independent, it seems they are interested only in "the perfect man" and they don't want that man to impact the independent lifestyle to which they've grown accustomed.

Why do women become so selective as they get older? Every woman who has complained about a lack of single available men has probably rejected acceptable men for trivial reasons. It's not that they can't find available men, they just can't find available men who are tall and thin and handsome and have a full head of hair and have perfect teeth and have a great job and have a lot of money and are extremely intelligent and are very funny and love hiking and enjoy shopping etc etc. The irony of it all is that women are a lot less picky in their teens & twenties when there's a lot more baggage-free available guys around, but when they reach their 30's and 40's they jack up their demands despite a much smaller pool of available men.

As for today's "pick 2 out of 3", how do you know who's emotionally stable when seemingly 3 out of 5 people are on some type of mind-altering med? And if you base your relationship on looks, what happens down the road when the aging process kicks in? I do believe it's important to be on the same intelligence level because if you can't have a stimulating conversation during the 99.9% of the time that you're not doing the nasty, then there will be a communication problem ... and lack of communication is a very common relationship killer.

The older I get, nothing as changed. I still want the guy that cares for me and treats me right. My being independent came out of necessity not as some sort of roadblock to men to say that I don't need them.

can I just say I respect your honesty here. I know a lot of women who like to pretend otherwise and get in their own way in the process. It makes me sad actually

ZombieKitten said:

I don't think I'm super fussy. I do know that should I be on the market again I will NOT be going out with any musicians. A regular guy who has weekends, Christmas, New Years off to spend with me would be wonderful

hey...we're not so bad once you accept that you wont be our top priority

Ottensen said:

Chile, the single men on this planet are not all taken, you just knowingly look in the wrong places for love, then consciously choose to lock yourself into non-necessary, crappy situations with those that you do find

Grow up, expand your horizons, and leave the non-available (be it physically or emotionally) men ALONE. You'll see that it will make a huge difference in the quality of your romantic life.

yup.

AndrePatrone said:

You guys should stick to dating each other and leave he daycrawlers in peace

Ok perhaps there are single men left on the planet but by the time you wade through those that are unavailable, what's left?

Gotta sort through:

married

gay

convicts

too old

too young

not sane

arrogant

criminals

etc.

So what percentage of the male population then would be good eligible bachelors?

^ You forget to add cats like me who plan on staying single4life.

ZombieKitten said:

AndrePatrone said:

hey...we're not so bad once you accept that you wont be our top priority

You guys should stick to dating each other and leave he daycrawlers in peace

psst...for possible future reference – accountants are highly reliable.

damosuzuki said:

ZombieKitten said:

damosuzuki said:

psst...for possible future reference – accountants are highly reliable.

You would never survive in the frozen tundra where he lives.

sexton said:

please, that's what snuggling is for

uPtoWnNY said:

^ You forget to add cats like me who plan on staying single4life.

HA! But at what age does a guy become an "old bachelor"?

ZombieKitten said:

sexton said:

You would never survive in the frozen tundra where he lives.

please, that's what snuggling is for

We'll see how receptive damosuzuki is to that idea. After a long day of work, the poor guy just wants to come home and listen to his Scud Mountain Boys albums.

I guess it depends on a lot of factors... what others deem attractive and/or dating material. Far too many young males in my community aren't functioning.
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Stymie said:

Pokeno4Money said:

I may be re-entering the dating pool in the near future, and I am definitely not looking forward to it. Back in the day, women just wanted a guy that cared about them and treated them right and was good husband/father material. Now that women are a lot more independent, it seems they are interested only in "the perfect man" and they don't want that man to impact the independent lifestyle to which they've grown accustomed.

Why do women become so selective as they get older? Every woman who has complained about a lack of single available men has probably rejected acceptable men for trivial reasons. It's not that they can't find available men, they just can't find available men who are tall and thin and handsome and have a full head of hair and have perfect teeth and have a great job and have a lot of money and are extremely intelligent and are very funny and love hiking and enjoy shopping etc etc. The irony of it all is that women are a lot less picky in their teens & twenties when there's a lot more baggage-free available guys around, but when they reach their 30's and 40's they jack up their demands despite a much smaller pool of available men.

As for today's "pick 2 out of 3", how do you know who's emotionally stable when seemingly 3 out of 5 people are on some type of mind-altering med? And if you base your relationship on looks, what happens down the road when the aging process kicks in? I do believe it's important to be on the same intelligence level because if you can't have a stimulating conversation during the 99.9% of the time that you're not doing the nasty, then there will be a communication problem ... and lack of communication is a very common relationship killer.

The older I get, nothing as changed. I still want the guy that cares for me and treats me right. My being independent came out of necessity not as some sort of roadblock to men to say that I don't need them.

That almost suggests that men aren't responsible in one way or another for every action a woman takes or opinon she forms. You mean y'all can be impressive, admirable, smart, independent etc. without it being either a middle finger to or index finger to say come hither for the benefit of a man? Well I'll be damned.

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Fauxie said:

Stymie said:

The older I get, nothing as changed. I still want the guy that cares for me and treats me right. My being independent came out of necessity not as some sort of roadblock to men to say that I don't need them.

That almost suggests that men aren't responsible in one way or another for every action a woman takes or opinon she forms. You mean y'all can be impressive, admirable, smart, independent etc. without it being either a middle finger to or index finger to say come hither for the benefit of a man? Well I'll be damned.

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Some men have issue with it and fuck them. If a man can't accept who I am, let him stay his insecure ass away from me.

Stymie said:

Fauxie said:

That almost suggests that men aren't responsible in one way or another for every action a woman takes or opinon she forms. You mean y'all can be impressive, admirable, smart, independent etc. without it being either a middle finger to or index finger to say come hither for the benefit of a man? Well I'll be damned.

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Some men have issue with it and fuck them. If a man can't accept who I am, let him stay his insecure ass away from me.

That's hot.

Fauxie said:

Stymie said:

Some men have issue with it and fuck them. If a man can't accept who I am, let him stay his insecure ass away from me.

That's hot.

I aasked my best friend about it and he said he thinks men are intimidated because I'm educated, have my own stuff and take care of myself. He said that they may think there is nothing they can do for me.

sexton said:

Oh is that annoying music?

Stymie said:

Fauxie said:

That's hot.

I aasked my best friend about it and he said he thinks men are intimidated because I'm educated, have my own stuff and take care of myself. He said that they may think there is nothing they can do for me.

Shut up and bend over.

Stymie said:

What they really mean is, they have no means of controlling you. Well, they could beat the shit out of you, men beat women for that very reason. Save from that...

If they truly meant what they said, a lot of men would be taking care of their children instead dropping their responsibility into the publics lap. What do they mean by "there's nothing they can do for you.?" If you ask most women they'll tell what they need and want from a man. Many men want to give you what they think you need when they feel like it. It doesn't roll like that, especially if you have a family.

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SeventeenDayze said:

uPtoWnNY said:

^ You forget to add cats like me who plan on staying single4life.

HA! But at what age does a guy become an "old bachelor"?

'Old' is a state of mind. I don't feel old at 52. I'm stronger and in better shape than a lot of cats half my age.

Never felt the burning desire to be 'with someone'. I enjoy my freedom and solitude too much. Fatherhood is definitely a no-no - too much work and responsibility.

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Dave1992 said:

That's kinda hot.

Stymie said:

Dave1992 said:

Shut up and bend over.

That's kinda hot.