MelinaB said:

Stymie said:

Mintchip said:

What's illuminati whoring??? Damn, I don't know any of these expressions anymore

The Illuminati conspiracy is an internet phenomenon which believes that any highly successful entertainer (especially in the music industry) belongs to this devil worshipping cult that believes in sex slaves and blood sacrifices, which seemed to have caught fire when ex-Public Enemy member Professor Griff took up the charge. Paul Mooney lost credibility points with me when he spouted this nonsense on The Mo'Nique Show.

I'm not sure what he means by illuminati whoring but I hope he means the fad where musicians are courting the controversy in their videos and shows and are exploiting it because they know some will talk about it ad nauseum. But if he actually thinks these artists are involved in an actual illuminati then...

TD3 said:

TonyVanDam said:

THAT^ is my only professional problem with Beyonce as well. As a vocalist, she can definile sing. But her choices of producers/composers/beatmakers are no different from most of the rhythmless bullshit (r&b) that has help made 2000's music below average to my ears.

As for her image and persona, Beyonce (along with LadyGaga & Rihanna) will always be at fault for starting the era of Illuminati Whoring that is now a requirement for some upcoming new female artists to look foward to if they really want the long-term fame.

I'm glad you think she can sing.

Define Illuminati Whoring? I think you need to back this "Illuminati Whoring" to the advent of MTV/BET/VHI. The visual became more important than material or singing, Madonna comes to mind and later Ms. Spears. Sexuality and music doesn't bother me it been apart of music forever as it always has been. I do however have utter contempt for weak mediocre artist / musician's. It goes back to a previous thread of tAudience about the problem with R&B. These record companies are going to have to come to terms with, signing people who can sang or sign swivel head Ken's and Barbie's who can sing on key. Like I said, "You can't fool all the people all the time", to paraphrase Abraham Lincoln.

One of these days, I will have to make a thread to explain it in deeper detail. But I can give you a simple definition:

Illuminati Whoring -- the practice of using occult symbolism within all types of entertainment as a means to provoke controversy and/or to send an occult message.

Mintchip said:

Stymie said:

I disagree with the acting like a lady part. To me, in my honest opinion, she acts like the typical video ho.

Also in my opinion, there are way more talented people than her.

What's a video ho?

A video ho (originally known as a video vixen) is a woman/girl who is the main female attraction of the male artist in a music video.

I have to say that I don't mind Beyonce. I do agree that her music has little or no substance, but I like the way she has carried herself over the years.

I think she's very nice looking with an amazing body, but I don't consider her to be stunningly beautiful. Her acting is very average and I'm getting tired of all the same dance moves from one video to the next. She's becoming Janet Jackson (boring dancer).

Having said that, I don't own one song or cd of hers and I probably never will. I would never pay the price to see her in concert either. For me, she's ok, but way too overexposed. I think she will put on a good Superbowl halftime, but there won't be any surprises. It will be what we expect of her.

Stymie said:

MelinaB said:

I don't understand why some people don't like her?

She's beautiful and talented. Her private life stays private. Not much controversy around her (stupid conspiracy theories and rants about her "wanting to be white" aside).

She acts like a lady, and she's very mature and poised.

Why do you treat her like she's Kim Kardashian? Just because she's "everywhere"? Well she's everywhere for the right reasons. She's an entertainer, a star.

I disagree with the acting like a lady part. To me, in my honest opinion, she acts like the typical video ho.

Also in my opinion, there are way more talented people than her.

In what way shape or form does she act like a video ho?

I've never seen her on anything, interview/talk shows, award shows, etc etc act other than a lady

I don't think that reflects her or her family at all

I think that is just vicious

Stymie said:

MelinaB said:

Acts like a typical video ho? How? Because she wears revealing clothes in her videos and dances sexy? No. She doesn't dress like that when she's not on stage. I can clearly see the line between her work life and her private life.

If she had a rap sheet like Kim (sex tape, multiple sex partners), then yeah, hoe. But I don't see it. I'd love some examples though.

It's nothing more than my opinion. I find her performances in videos sleazy. The GQ layout: sleazy. But, I don't have to like it. I have zero problem with anyone seeing the good in her.

opinions have to have some connection to reality, how people 'perform' in videos cannot be considered their everyday life. videos and performances are acting in most cases.

she can't be a video ho, because it's her video anyway

You've never seen or heard of her behaving that way in public

theAudience said:

To paraphrase a Bob George line...

For someone who can't stand Beyonce
Y'all sure talk enough about that MF

...

Unless i'm speaking to someone I know that is or has worked with/for her, until yesterday (when they ran Superbowl promos during the playoff games I watched), I never hear her music or see anything about her until I come here.


I'm just wondering if those that constantly complain about her visibility would be as vociferous if it was their pet musical celebrity that was, as they see it anyway, this ubiquitous.

Music for adventurous listeners

hating(living) vicariously thru stars, envy,

OldFriends4Sale said:

Stymie said:

I disagree with the acting like a lady part. To me, in my honest opinion, she acts like the typical video ho.

Also in my opinion, there are way more talented people than her.

In what way shape or form does she act like a video ho?

I've never seen her on anything, interview/talk shows, award shows, etc etc act other than a lady

I don't think that reflects her or her family at all

I think that is just vicious

She acts like a video ho on stage and in her videos and in her photoshoots.

And I'm being nice. I wouldn't post how I really feel about her.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Stymie said:

It's nothing more than my opinion. I find her performances in videos sleazy. The GQ layout: sleazy. But, I don't have to like it. I have zero problem with anyone seeing the good in her.

opinions have to have some connection to reality, how people 'perform' in videos cannot be considered their everyday life. videos and performances are acting in most cases.

she can't be a video ho, because it's her video anyway

You've never seen or heard of her behaving that way in public

I am glad for those of you that can disconnect how she acts on stage, and in videos and photoshoots from real life. To me, that's who she is. How she acts in those realms grosses me out. Other than actually fucking, she reminds me of a porno star.

OldFriends4Sale said:

theAudience said:

To paraphrase a Bob George line...

For someone who can't stand Beyonce
Y'all sure talk enough about that MF

...

Unless i'm speaking to someone I know that is or has worked with/for her, until yesterday (when they ran Superbowl promos during the playoff games I watched), I never hear her music or see anything about her until I come here.


I'm just wondering if those that constantly complain about her visibility would be as vociferous if it was their pet musical celebrity that was, as they see it anyway, this ubiquitous.

Music for adventurous listeners

hating(living) vicariously thru stars, envy,

It is possible that people are not jealous and do not "hate" on celebrities. The only thing she has that I want is money and I can get what I want or need.

The only reason celebrities irk the living hell out of me is how society values them. Raises them to a level of an almost diety. Now, that isn't her fault but I believe she buys into her own hype.

OldFriends4Sale said:

theAudience said:

To paraphrase a Bob George line...

For someone who can't stand Beyonce
Y'all sure talk enough about that MF

...

Unless i'm speaking to someone I know that is or has worked with/for her, until yesterday (when they ran Superbowl promos during the playoff games I watched), I never hear her music or see anything about her until I come here.


I'm just wondering if those that constantly complain about her visibility would be as vociferous if it was their pet musical celebrity that was, as they see it anyway, this ubiquitous.

Music for adventurous listeners

hating(living) vicariously thru stars, envy,

I guess for me, and probably a lot of other people is that I don't "hate" Beyonce, I just find her terribly overrated and overhyped. Yes, I liked some of Destiny's child's early material and some of her earlier solo work, but other than that I haven't been impressed by any other material. I find her overrated in terms of her attractiveness, singing and dancing (more like shaking/grinding/shimmying).

If I'm going to be envious of anyone it would probably be Vanessa L. Williams, Kate Bush, Sheila E. etc. because I think they are truly beautiful and talented and I would love to have their talents. I don't feel this way about Beyonce.

SoulAlive said:

Cinny said:

I can't imagine what Thriller would have been like in the current day of media. It probably helped that it WASN'T. He was everywhere you could be back then, and people loved it.

but unlike Beyonce,Michael knew that he was overexposed and he took a "real" break between albums.There was a huge gap between Thriller and Bad and he was relatively quiet from 1985 until late '87.

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I totally agree......

there was never a moment in Michael's career where I felt he was falling into overexposure....even during Thriller.....

he was highly conscious of that.......

Stymie said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

hating(living) vicariously thru stars, envy,

It is possible that people are not jealous and do not "hate" on celebrities. The only thing she has that I want is money and I can get what I want or need.

The only reason celebrities irk the living hell out of me is how society values them. Raises them to a level of an almost diety. Now, that isn't her fault but I believe she buys into her own hype.

I think its kinda intellectually dismissive and lazy to accuse others of being jealous because some one had achieved fame or money. Unless we are all pre-teenagers on the org; I would like to think life has taught us, nobody gets out of this alive and neither fame nor money shields you from the trials and tribulations of life.

What I do admire and respect are the pursuits of excellence, curiosity and intellectually honesty. The Arts play a very important role in shaping civilization, and for better or for worse sometime reflects the time in which we live in. The thing is, there are artist of every discipline who are pursing excellence and they've been thrown to the side for self promoting light weights who possess the depth of a shallow puddle of water in a pothole. This type of over the top celebrity irks the hell out of me as well. We do have a choice in what we digest but when I was growing up the media introduced me to all types artist that I would've never naturally gravitated too. The Late Show with Johnny Carson (for example) had musicians of ever discipline and genre, essayist, playwrights, poets, and philosopher's. I may have not agreed with all that was being said or liked every artist I saw but they were for the most part the cream of the crop at what they did. Now celebrity /infamy is used to distract us from more important things; we've embraced and celebrated the lowest common denominator. If you can't distinguish bullshit from substance, I'd argue you would have a hard time distinguishing bullshit in other parts of life... such as the political because everything is political. As my mother says, "The USA is suffering form cultural deprivation." Pathetic.

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Give it to em straight, Ms Trina!!! That's how you do!

TD3 said:

Stymie said:

It is possible that people are not jealous and do not "hate" on celebrities. The only thing she has that I want is money and I can get what I want or need.

The only reason celebrities irk the living hell out of me is how society values them. Raises them to a level of an almost diety. Now, that isn't her fault but I believe she buys into her own hype.

I think its kinda intellectually dismissive and lazy to accuse others of being jealous because some one had achieved fame or money. Unless we are all pre-teenagers on the org; I would like to think life has taught us, nobody gets out of this alive and neither fame nor money shields you from the trials and tribulations of life.

What I do admire and respect are the pursuits of excellence, curiosity and intellectually honesty. The Arts play a very important role in shaping civilization, and for better or for worse sometime reflects the time in which we live in. The thing is, there are artist of every discipline who are pursing excellence and they've been thrown to the side for self promoting light weights who possess the depth of a shallow puddle of water in a pothole. This type of over the top celebrity irks the hell out of me as well. We do have a choice in what we digest but when I was growing up the media introduced me to all types artist that I would've never naturally gravitated too. The Late Show with Johnny Carson (for example) had musicians of ever discipline and genre, essayist, playwrights, poets, and philosopher's. I may have not agreed with all that was being said or liked every artist I saw but they were for the most part the cream the of crop at what they did. Now celebrity /infamy is used to distract us from more important things; we've embraced and celebrated the lowest common denominator. If you can't distinguish bullshit from substance, I'd argue you would have a hard time distinguishing bullshit in other parts of life... such as the political because everything is political. As my mother says, "The USA is suffering form cultural deprivation." Pathetic.

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[Edited 1/15/13 19:47pm]

A-TO THE FREAKIN-MEN! ITA w/everything you said here

squirrelscientist said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

hating(living) vicariously thru stars, envy,

I guess for me, and probably a lot of other people is that I don't "hate" Beyonce, I just find her terribly overrated and overhyped. Yes, I liked some of Destiny's child's early material and some of her earlier solo work, but other than that I haven't been impressed by any other material. I find her overrated in terms of her attractiveness, singing and dancing (more like shaking/grinding/shimmying).

If I'm going to be envious of anyone it would probably be Vanessa L. Williams, Kate Bush, Sheila E. etc. because I think they are truly beautiful and talented and I would love to have their talents. I don't feel this way about Beyonce.

cool, then it probably doesn't apply to you

I mean as far as how many entertainers singers etc are out there I don't have the energy to put into even care if she's on 3 or 5 magazine covers in a year so what, I mean some people see her more than she is and it's because they have a problem.

The point is, people are calling her for commercials ads magazine shoots, photo shoots interviews etc

She's probably turned some down, but I wonder how many of us if in the same position, wouldn't be taking up almost every offer of the same, (Cause that's also putting money in your pocket)

TD3 said:

Stymie said:

It is possible that people are not jealous and do not "hate" on celebrities. The only thing she has that I want is money and I can get what I want or need.

The only reason celebrities irk the living hell out of me is how society values them. Raises them to a level of an almost diety. Now, that isn't her fault but I believe she buys into her own hype.

I think its kinda intellectually dismissive and lazy to accuse others of being jealous because some one had achieved fame or money. Unless we are all pre-teenagers on the org; I would like to think life has taught us, nobody gets out of this alive and neither fame nor money shields you from the trials and tribulations of life.

What I do admire and respect are the pursuits of excellence, curiosity and intellectually honesty. The Arts play a very important role in shaping civilization, and for better or for worse sometime reflects the time in which we live in. The thing is, there are artist of every discipline who are pursing excellence and they've been thrown to the side for self promoting light weights who possess the depth of a shallow puddle of water in a pothole. This type of over the top celebrity irks the hell out of me as well. We do have a choice in what we digest but when I was growing up the media introduced me to all types artist that I would've never naturally gravitated too. The Late Show with Johnny Carson (for example) had musicians of ever discipline and genre, essayist, playwrights, poets, and philosopher's. I may have not agreed with all that was being said or liked every artist I saw but they were for the most part the cream of the crop at what they did. Now celebrity /infamy is used to distract us from more important things; we've embraced and celebrated the lowest common denominator. If you can't distinguish bullshit from substance, I'd argue you would have a hard time distinguishing bullshit in other parts of life... such as the political because everything is political. As my mother says, "The USA is suffering form cultural deprivation." Pathetic.

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I didn't say Jealous, I said Envy(Envious) 2 different words 2 different intents 2 different meanings

Jealousy is dealing with insecurities concerning something/someone that 'belongs to us' in extreme cases something/someone we think 'belongs to us', jealousy is also a sign of possible issues in a relationship of any kind, where the jealous is or feels they are not getting to due affection attention respect love of the other

And for people to be vicious of someone who's never done anything to you, never harmed you, I think it's rather sloppy and intellectually & emotionally WRONG

I mean there were people, even who posted org who said they were glad that Whitney Houston was dead, blaming her for RnB going bad

I'm not saying people have to like a person, I don't own 1 Beyonce or Destiny's Child cd, but more power to her cause you get one shot in life and there are 100's and 1000's of people out there doing the same thing she's doing or wish they were

Just because you(not you personally) got turned down at you cheerleading tryout or didn't get picked for lead vocalist/solo in the college play and the girl that go the part you tried out for happens to remind you of Beyonce (which a lot of viciousness (from women) goes like that) ...or the ex boyfriend said he wished you looked like her

Yes we have a choice to watch look at and listen to what we will which is why it's intellectually & Emotionally debased for someone especially adults to hate or just be verbally nasty about someone they don't know or have never done anything to them wrong.

No one is making me focus in on someone I'm not particulary interested in. I don't have the energy for that kind of wasteful bad thoughts about anyone.

I too would like to think life has taught people lessons, but living should have told you there are a whole lot of grown ass babies running around and on the org. and there are a great number of teens on the org too(many who act more mature than the persons posting in every Beyonce thread no matter the subject about how much they don't like her) if you don't like her then get your nose out of her A$$, cause she's going to make that money no matter how much you don't like her.

To call Beyonce a video ho is uterly silly,

Beyonce is doing what she is doing, people obviously like it, she's gonna make that money no matter how many (I'm so tired of Beyonce) threads pop up on the .org

Stymie said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

opinions have to have some connection to reality, how people 'perform' in videos cannot be considered their everyday life. videos and performances are acting in most cases.

she can't be a video ho, because it's her video anyway

You've never seen or heard of her behaving that way in public

I am glad for those of you that can disconnect how she acts on stage, and in videos and photoshoots from real life. To me, that's who she is. How she acts in those realms grosses me out. Other than actually fucking, she reminds me of a porno star.

there is a name for that

that's just too much wasted energy on Beyonce, I mean you really post in every thread with her name in the title

There are people who watch soap operas and tv shows who can't seperate fiction from reality and actually verbally assault actors who may play villians or a part the viewer doesn't like.

I mean for you to know all she's doing, you really must envy her. I don't watch videos, movies, concerts, vid clips, ready articles, look at pictures, post in topics of people I don't like and think such nastiness of ... For you to say what you do, knowing how she's behaves in all these things means you are following her, watching her, checkin it out...

Celebrities — Why We Love and Hate Them

TD3 said:

Stymie said:

It is possible that people are not jealous and do not "hate" on celebrities. The only thing she has that I want is money and I can get what I want or need.

The only reason celebrities irk the living hell out of me is how society values them. Raises them to a level of an almost diety. Now, that isn't her fault but I believe she buys into her own hype.

I think its kinda intellectually dismissive and lazy to accuse others of being jealous because some one had achieved fame or money. Unless we are all pre-teenagers on the org; I would like to think life has taught us, nobody gets out of this alive and neither fame nor money shields you from the trials and tribulations of life.

What I do admire and respect are the pursuits of excellence, curiosity and intellectually honesty. The Arts play a very important role in shaping civilization, and for better or for worse sometime reflects the time in which we live in. The thing is, there are artist of every discipline who are pursing excellence and they've been thrown to the side for self promoting light weights who possess the depth of a shallow puddle of water in a pothole. This type of over the top celebrity irks the hell out of me as well. We do have a choice in what we digest but when I was growing up the media introduced me to all types artist that I would've never naturally gravitated too. The Late Show with Johnny Carson (for example) had musicians of ever discipline and genre, essayist, playwrights, poets, and philosopher's. I may have not agreed with all that was being said or liked every artist I saw but they were for the most part the cream of the crop at what they did. Now celebrity /infamy is used to distract us from more important things; we've embraced and celebrated the lowest common denominator. If you can't distinguish bullshit from substance, I'd argue you would have a hard time distinguishing bullshit in other parts of life... such as the political because everything is political. As my mother says, "The USA is suffering form cultural deprivation." Pathetic.

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en·vy (nv)

envy·ing·ly adv.

Stymie said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

In what way shape or form does she act like a video ho?

I've never seen her on anything, interview/talk shows, award shows, etc etc act other than a lady

I don't think that reflects her or her family at all

I think that is just vicious

She acts like a video ho on stage and in her videos and in her photoshoots.

And I'm being nice. I wouldn't post how I really feel about her.

define what that act is, because that can apply to a whole lot of people, even people you like

She can't be a video ho because a video ho is a background extra, Beyonce is the focus

OldFriends4Sale said:

Stymie said:

I am glad for those of you that can disconnect how she acts on stage, and in videos and photoshoots from real life. To me, that's who she is. How she acts in those realms grosses me out. Other than actually fucking, she reminds me of a porno star.

there is a name for that

that's just too much wasted energy on Beyonce, I mean you really post in every thread with her name in the title

There are people who watch soap operas and tv shows who can't seperate fiction from reality and actually verbally assault actors who may play villians or a part the viewer doesn't like.

I mean for you to know all she's doing, you really must envy her. I don't watch videos, movies, concerts, vid clips, ready articles, look at pictures, post in topics of people I don't like and think such nastiness of ... For you to say what you do, knowing how she's behaves in all these things means you are following her, watching her, checkin it out...

Please provide proof that I post in every Beyonce thread. I am not a fan of hers and just like Madonna, Rihanna, and others I am not fans of, I usually just skip over threads about them. The only reason I posted in this one and the other one is I wanted oto voice my opinion on what I think is oversaturation.

To know all she's doing? Where in the holy hell did I say that? How many videos do I have to watch to know that she grosses me out? Why do some women, and not just Beyonce, have to show their bodies to make money? It's a phenomena that makes me scratch my head.

What am I envious of? Like I said she has nothing I want but money. Envy: to feel resentful or painful desire for another's advantages or possessions. Please!!!

And for you to talk about not getting personal, you sure did go there with this post. Remember that.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Stymie said:

She acts like a video ho on stage and in her videos and in her photoshoots.

And I'm being nice. I wouldn't post how I really feel about her.

define what that act is, because that can apply to a whole lot of people, even people you like

She can't be a video ho because a video ho is a background extra, Beyonce is the focus

Video hoes shake their asses, are half-dressed and over sexualized and in my opinion, that is her. And yes, it can apply to a whole lot of people but we're discussing Beyonce.

OldFriends4Sale said:

TD3 said:

I think its kinda intellectually dismissive and lazy to accuse others of being jealous because some one had achieved fame or money. Unless we are all pre-teenagers on the org; I would like to think life has taught us, nobody gets out of this alive and neither fame nor money shields you from the trials and tribulations of life.

What I do admire and respect are the pursuits of excellence, curiosity and intellectually honesty. The Arts play a very important role in shaping civilization, and for better or for worse sometime reflects the time in which we live in. The thing is, there are artist of every discipline who are pursing excellence and they've been thrown to the side for self promoting light weights who possess the depth of a shallow puddle of water in a pothole. This type of over the top celebrity irks the hell out of me as well. We do have a choice in what we digest but when I was growing up the media introduced me to all types artist that I would've never naturally gravitated too. The Late Show with Johnny Carson (for example) had musicians of ever discipline and genre, essayist, playwrights, poets, and philosopher's. I may have not agreed with all that was being said or liked every artist I saw but they were for the most part the cream of the crop at what they did. Now celebrity /infamy is used to distract us from more important things; we've embraced and celebrated the lowest common denominator. If you can't distinguish bullshit from substance, I'd argue you would have a hard time distinguishing bullshit in other parts of life... such as the political because everything is political. As my mother says, "The USA is suffering form cultural deprivation." Pathetic.

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Envy, like the worm, never runs but to the fairest fruit; like a cunning bloodhound, it singles out the fattest deer in the flock —Francis Beaumont

Envy is a kind of civil war in the soul, where judgment and imagination are at perpetual jars —William Penn

en·vy (nv)

n. pl. en·vies

1.

a. A feeling of discontent and resentment aroused by and in conjunction with desire for the possessions or qualities of another.

b. The object of such feeling: Their new pool made them the envy of their neighbors.

2. Obsolete Malevolence.

tr.v. en·vied, en·vy·ing, en·vies

1. To feel envy toward.

2. To regard with envy.

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envy·ing·ly adv.

Synonyms: envy, begrudge, covet
These verbs mean to feel resentful or painful desire for another's advantages or possessions. Envy, the most general, combines discontent, resentment, and desire: "When I peruse the conquered fame of heroes and the victories of mighty generals, I do not envy the generals" (Walt Whitman).

Begrudge stresses ill will and reluctance to acknowledge another's right or claim: Why begrudge him his success?

This is what YOU think it is. You have formed an opinion about me without knowing so basically doing the same thing you are accusing me of. Good luck with that.

I have a cousin who is probably Beyonce's biggest fan and even knowing how I feel about her, would never say I was envious of her.

Stymie said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Envy, like the worm, never runs but to the fairest fruit; like a cunning bloodhound, it singles out the fattest deer in the flock —Francis Beaumont

Envy is a kind of civil war in the soul, where judgment and imagination are at perpetual jars —William Penn

en·vy (nv)

n. pl. en·vies

1.

a. A feeling of discontent and resentment aroused by and in conjunction with desire for the possessions or qualities of another.

b. The object of such feeling: Their new pool made them the envy of their neighbors.

2. Obsolete Malevolence.

tr.v. en·vied, en·vy·ing, en·vies

1. To feel envy toward.

2. To regard with envy.

---

envy·ing·ly adv.

Synonyms: envy, begrudge, covet
These verbs mean to feel resentful or painful desire for another's advantages or possessions. Envy, the most general, combines discontent, resentment, and desire: "When I peruse the conquered fame of heroes and the victories of mighty generals, I do not envy the generals" (Walt Whitman).

Begrudge stresses ill will and reluctance to acknowledge another's right or claim: Why begrudge him his success?

This is what YOU think it is. You have formed an opinion about me without knowing so basically doing the same thing you are accusing me of. Good luck with that.

I have a cousin who is probably Beyonce's biggest fan and even knowing how I feel about her, would never say I was envious of her.

yes it is what I think, but the info(envy) posted is from http://www.thefreedictionary.com/

you created the information that I'm picking up, I'm not even trying to be mean here Stymie, I just don't get it, why do you feel you have to make it known in every Beyonce thread how much you don't like her

No I'm not envious of Beyonce or you

you know so much about how she is in videos, how do you know unless you're following her?

And this is not just about you, it was never about you, but again you post in every Beyonce thread

Stymie said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

define what that act is, because that can apply to a whole lot of people, even people you like

She can't be a video ho because a video ho is a background extra, Beyonce is the focus

Video hoes shake their asses, are half-dressed and over sexualized and in my opinion, that is her. And yes, it can apply to a whole lot of people but we're discussing Beyonce.

Prince

OldFriends4Sale said:

Stymie said:

This is what YOU think it is. You have formed an opinion about me without knowing so basically doing the same thing you are accusing me of. Good luck with that.

I have a cousin who is probably Beyonce's biggest fan and even knowing how I feel about her, would never say I was envious of her.

yes it is what I think, but the info posted is from http://www.thefreedictionary.com/

you created the information that I'm picking up

No I'm not envious of Beyonce or you

if you know so much about how she is in videos, how do you know unless you're following her?

And this is not just about you, it was never about you, but again you post in every Beyonce thread?

I do not post in every Beyonce thread. If you can find more than these two and maybe one other, I will not ever post in another one. In fact, I usually don't say anything about her because friends of mine here like her. I just got tired of holding my tongue on the subject.

And nowhere in my post did I say you were envious of Beyonce or me so I have zero idea what you are talking aobut there.

And once again, you are forming opinions of people you know nothing about, the same thing you accused me doing with Beyonce.

I have seen maybe three Beyonce videos and two Grammy performances. I have also seen the GQ video shoot and those are enough for me to think she needs to tone down the sex kitten act.

I am disappointed in it because she can sing and doesn't need to be extra.