dJJ said:

dJJ said:

Lammastide said:

dJJ said: In fact I cited this precisely because Ivy, in my example, isnt using her words as a weapon or for anything other than what I see as the greater good. And she's somehow "at fault" for a response most reasonable people would recognize as undue? Suppose I killed myself because I felt you are attacking me in a worldwide forum right now. How much consequence are you prepared to take on? [Edited 12/7/12 12:26pm]

If you would have killed yourself because of my prior post, I will not take any responsibility for it. I find it a very tasteless statement by the way.

1. I am not attacking you. I'm having a discussion with you. Exchanging arguments is very different from deliberately teasing somebody.

2. And this is a forum, where we both post and have agreed with the forum rules.

3. I'm not pretending to be somebody else in order to prank you.

4. I'm not exposing the other to a broad audiance without consent of you.

5. I can only speak for myself, I am very careful with choosing my words over here. And the very few times I thought I was out of line, I have apologized via an orgnote.

And I did not read it right, indeed. I now understand you were quoting.

Eventhough, it is possible to hurt somebody with words. However, I do try to be very aware of my own words. And up to now, I don't think I have ever been reported to a moderator on this site.

[Edited 12/7/12 12:41pm]

So as long as people agree to it, it's fine? So someone on the org killing themselves over the rancid shit some of the rancid people in this thread say doesn't earn sympathy? lol.

It's amusing that people have the insane need to become barbaric in reply to someone else's perceived barbarism. She killed herself and it's awful and terrible, but the DJs' joke did not warrant that response. "Worldwide" or not.

imago said:

free2bfreeda said:

you don't mess with the royals (in any way) and live to talk about it. remember all the hush hush, cloaked rumours surrounding Princess Diana's death.

you just be warned, don't mess with the royals.

Is this about the green lizards from the house of draco stuff?

Oh, the illuminati

Spinlight said:

dJJ said:

If you would have killed yourself because of my prior post, I will not take any responsibility for it. I find it a very tasteless statement by the way.

1. I am not attacking you. I'm having a discussion with you. Exchanging arguments is very different from deliberately teasing somebody.

2. And this is a forum, where we both post and have agreed with the forum rules.

3. I'm not pretending to be somebody else in order to prank you.

4. I'm not exposing the other to a broad audiance without consent of you.

5. I can only speak for myself, I am very careful with choosing my words over here. And the very few times I thought I was out of line, I have apologized via an orgnote.

And I did not read it right, indeed. I now understand you were quoting.

Eventhough, it is possible to hurt somebody with words. However, I do try to be very aware of my own words. And up to now, I don't think I have ever been reported to a moderator on this site.

[Edited 12/7/12 12:41pm]

So as long as people agree to it, it's fine? So someone on the org killing themselves over the rancid shit some of the rancid people in this thread say doesn't earn sympathy? lol.

It's amusing that people have the insane need to become barbaric in reply to someone else's perceived barbarism. She killed herself and it's awful and terrible, but the DJs' joke did not warrant that response. "Worldwide" or not.

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Spinlight said:

dJJ said:

If you would have killed yourself because of my prior post, I will not take any responsibility for it. I find it a very tasteless statement by the way.

1. I am not attacking you. I'm having a discussion with you. Exchanging arguments is very different from deliberately teasing somebody.

2. And this is a forum, where we both post and have agreed with the forum rules.

3. I'm not pretending to be somebody else in order to prank you.

4. I'm not exposing the other to a broad audiance without consent of you.

5. I can only speak for myself, I am very careful with choosing my words over here. And the very few times I thought I was out of line, I have apologized via an orgnote.

And I did not read it right, indeed. I now understand you were quoting.

Eventhough, it is possible to hurt somebody with words. However, I do try to be very aware of my own words. And up to now, I don't think I have ever been reported to a moderator on this site.

[Edited 12/7/12 12:41pm]

So as long as people agree to it, it's fine? So someone on the org killing themselves over the rancid shit some of the rancid people in this thread say doesn't earn sympathy? lol.

It's amusing that people have the insane need to become barbaric in reply to someone else's perceived barbarism. She killed herself and it's awful and terrible, but the DJs' joke did not warrant that response. "Worldwide" or not.

Sympathy is very different than accountability.

And I already stated why I think the DJ's could foresee there would be very negative consequences to their joke for this woman. If she would have not killed herself, she would have been know as the subject of the joke, for the rest of her life. And probably not be able to keep her job.

And I really don't see any logic or validity of argument in your statement:

"It's amusing that people have the insane need to become barbaric in reply to someone else's perceived barbarism."

I agree with a few here there were other factors in her life that may have contributed to her death. Humiliation was just the icing on the cake.

ZombieKitten said:

Anyway, like I always say: suicide is the best revenge

This is so funny and painful.

dJJ said:

Living in Australia, I LOATHE the smug media assholes they have here. I can't watch tv and the radio is worse. Ugh.

mynameisnotsusan said:

Beautifulstarr123 said:

I agree with a few here there were other factors in her life that may have contributed to her death. Humiliation was just the icing on the cake.

ZombieKitten said:

mynameisnotsusan said:

Living in Australia, I LOATHE the smug media assholes they have here. I can't watch tv and the radio is worse. Ugh.

I only ever watch SBS and ABC and I can honestly say I NEVER listen to the radio. The org is my news source - its always first with the important stuff! I do find these media "personalities" cringeworthy. I think we should all top ourselves in protest

I'm the same - SBS or ABC - they were all looking a bit sorry for themselves on Sunrise this morning when I did flick through the channels this morning. Radio gets played at work

And the org is ALWAYS first. Where do you think I found out about this?

ZombieKitten said:

Anyway, like I always say: suicide is the best revenge

Murder then suicide is best revenge.

mynameisnotsusan said:

Living in Australia, I LOATHE the smug media assholes they have here. I can't watch tv and the radio is worse. Ugh.

Austrailians more arrogant than americans?

It was just a simple prank. The people never thought she'd kill herself over it. I know I wouldn't

iaminparties said:

ZombieKitten said:

Anyway, like I always say: suicide is the best revenge

Murder then suicide is best revenge.

i would say framing someone for your own suicide is the best

i bet the DJs are skeered. i'd be hiding too

XxAxX said:

i bet the DJs are skeered. i'd be hiding too

scared of what? i bet they are fired or will resign...

from:http://worldnews.nbcnews....-dead?lite

Updated at 2:33 p.m. ET: A nurse duped by a prank call made to the hospital where Kate Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge, was treated for an extreme form of morning sickness was found dead Friday morning, the hospital said in a statement.

Two Australian DJs, Mel Greig and Michael Christian of Sydney station 2Day FM, called the hospital earlier this week and pretended to be Queen Elizabeth and Prince Charles asking to be put through to the ward. They were then given an update on Kate’s health by a nurse.

The woman’s body was found at an address in Weymouth Street, London, which is around the corner from King Edward VII Hospital on Beaumont Street. Police described the circumstance of her death as "unexplained."

“It is with very deep sadness that we confirm the tragic death of a member of our nursing staff, Jacintha Saldanha,” said the statement, which was released by the hospital's public relations firm.

Radio DJs impersonate royals, get lowdown on Kate

“Jacintha has worked at the King Edward VII's Hospital for more than four years. She was an excellent nurse and well-respected and popular with all of her colleagues,” it said.

“We can confirm that Jacintha was recently the victim of a hoax call to the hospital. The hospital had been supporting her throughout this difficult time,” it added.

A statement released by Saldanha's family asks that the media respect their privacy at this difficult time.

Many took to the radio station’s Facebook page, posting strong-worded comments criticizing the DJs’ behavior.

“Wherever you sit, just beg forgiveness,” a commenter named Mel Lacey posted.

“They should be sacked for the awful way they are handling the results of this prank,” William Stead, another user, wrote on the page.

Media company Southern Cross Austereo (SCA) and 2Day FM released a statement saying they "are deeply saddened by the tragic news of the death of nurse Jacintha Saldanha from King Edward VII's Hospital and we extend our deepest sympathies to her family and all that have been affected by this situation around the world."

The statement went on to say that CEO Rhys Holleran had spoken with the two DJs, who are "deeply shocked and at this time we have agreed that they not comment about the circumstances. SCA and the hosts have decided that they will not return to their radio show until further notice out of respect for what can only be described as a tragedy."

Duke, Duchess 'deeply saddened'
A spokesman for St. James's Palace said that William, the Duke of Cambridge, and Kate were “deeply saddened” by Saldanha's death.

“Their Royal Highnesses were looked after so wonderfully well at all times by everybody at King Edward VII Hospital, and their thoughts and prayers are with Jacintha Saldanha's family, friends and colleagues at this very sad time,” the spokesman added.

John Lofthouse, chief executive at King Edward VII's Hospital, was quoted as saying in the statement that "our thoughts and deepest sympathies at this time are with her family and friends."

"Everyone is shocked by the loss of a much loved and valued colleague," he added.

Lord Glenarthur, chairman of King Edward VII's Hospital, said Saldanha was "a first-class nurse who cared diligently for hundreds of patients during her time with us."

"She will be greatly missed," he said.

The police and ambulance services said the woman, who they did not name, was dead when they arrived.

“Police were called at approximately 9:35 [a.m. local time, 4:35 a.m. ET] Friday … to reports of a woman found unconscious at an address in Weymouth Street,” a spokeswoman for London’s Metropolitan Police told NBC News.

“London Ambulance Service attended and the woman was pronounced dead at the scene. Inquiries continue to establish the circumstances of the incident,” she added.

The police spokeswoman said the death was being treated as “unexplained” until an autopsy was carried out.

Olivia Harris/Reuters

Police officers walk outside King Edward VII hospital, central London, Friday.

More world stories from NBC News:

i think the prank was in poor taste... a family expecting a child should be off limits... but welcome to the media in 2012

blaming them for this woman's death is ridiculous beyond comprehension

breese said:

The Australian government should nail those 2 fucks to the wall, and nuke the station for that matter.

yeeeeeehaaaaawwwwww!!!!!

breese said:

The Australian government should nail those 2 fucks to the wall, and nuke the station for that matter. When I first heard of the prank itself I was pretty disgusted. Not funny in the least.

The poor receptionist shouldn't have died. Suicide or otherwise. Two weeks ago she was probably quite excited to hear that Kate Middleton was coming to their facility, having no idea it would literally be the death of her. Just so wrong.

do you REALLY think it is a crime or some major violation of the law?

mobliss said:

breese said:

The Australian government should nail those 2 fucks to the wall, and nuke the station for that matter.

yeeeeeehaaaaawwwwww!!!!!

i am trying to assume hyperbole but it is hard....like i said in the other topic this woman must have had other issues. AND! i also assume this kind of talk is just an emotional response. I HOPE no one would really truly hold that such a act should be punishable by the government. It is one thing that they would get fired *that is 100% up to their bosses* or that there would be some back lash (free speech protects that) but to assert it is actionable by ANY government is sickening

Genesia said:

alexzander said:

It was a joke. The dj's arent responsible for what happened to this woman.

So if I'm trying to scare someone by pretending to mug them and I pull a toy gun, I'm not responsible if they die of a heart attack, thinking the gun is real? Because...ya know...it's just a prank?

Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit.

[Edited 12/7/12 9:31am]

stupid analogy that has absolutely nothing in common with what's being discussed here

mynameisnotsusan said:

ZombieKitten said:

dJJ said:

This is so funny and painful.

I don't think it's funny at all - but it's true. I'm sorry for saying it sort of

Sorry, I thought you intended is a sarcastic joke.

I don't know if the woman was distraught by what happened to her, or wether her suicide was intended by her as a revenge at (to, with?) the DJ's.

Did she write a statement about it?

In Holland a couple of weeks ago a young guy killed himself, and in his goodbye letter he stated very clear he could not deal with having been outcasted for his whole life. Very sad and very shocking. However, it seemed that the pain was to much for him, if it would have been revenge he would have named the people who bullied him, and he didn't.

My experience is that people who commit suicide genuinely feel they don't want to life because the suffering they experience(d). That seems to be weigh more than the intention of revenge.

mobliss said:

i think the prank was in poor taste... a family expecting a child should be off limits... but welcome to the media in 2012

blaming them for this woman's death is ridiculous beyond comprehension

They had the intend to ridicule her and expose her as a joke world wide.

What is there not to blame?

There clearly is a causal relationship between her death and their intend to ridicule her.

alexzander said:

It was a joke. The dj's arent responsible for what happened to this woman.

They damn well are. Should be fired and prosecuted.

As for Sarah Palin being tricked

luv4u said:

alexzander said:

It was a joke. The dj's arent responsible for what happened to this woman.

They damn well are. Should be fired and prosecuted.

As for Sarah Palin being tricked

Prosecuted? It was a joke that wasn't intended to get out of hand. They didn't intend on killing her. The woman probably had more issues and this was just the icing on the cake. They can't be blamed for her reaction to the situation, they simply trying to make an innocent joke.