TrevorAyer said:

soda will kill you

as will sugar

In 80 years?

NDRU said:

TrevorAyer said:

soda will kill you

as will sugar

In 80 years?

mmm no much sooner .. but if u enjoy being fat and sick till then go for it

TrevorAyer said:

NDRU said:

In 80 years?

mmm no much sooner .. but if u enjoy being fat and sick till then go for it

it's a bit of a sweeping statement--sugar will kill you. Don't you think you really mean "too much" will kill you?

Plenty of people live to 100 and still consume sugar

i would say my sweeping statement is far more accurate than the millions of messages people are brainwashed with on tv and everytime they step outside of their lil jail cell telling people to eat sugar as tho its just fine .. sure there are some natural sugars that arent as bad but sugar destroys your immune system .. it is basically legalized cocaine .. watch any hyper kid doped up on sugar and u can see how powerful it is ..

isn't half of the us officially obese? think i heard that somewhere recently .. pretty sad .. people need to hear the truth and stop defending their childish addictions

ps people used to live to 800 yrs old if u believe the bible .. much easier to control slaves when they die off every 100 years

well, to say that sugar is highly addictive and too much of it is terrible for you is a lot more accurate

Just saying it will kill you sounds like so much reefer madness that pot smokers just laugh at. A little dessert once in a while is fine, loading up on nothing but soda and alcohol and fried food and processed food WILL kill you.

Things I eat regularly, especially during winter:

Oat based fruit muesli (no wheat flakes or other grains it it) as a snack or breakfast meal

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Lots of fresh and/or frozen berries, especially fresh strawberries during spring and freshly peeled pomegranate and lots of kiwis and fresh pineapple and tangerines....I love tangerines!

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Watermelon and cantaloupe:

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I eat pasta, bread, rice and potatoes in moderation and want to eat less of those carbs and use more millet and sweet potatoes instead and maybe more root vegetables like celery but all in all, I don´t think I have to change too much about my diet. Maybe eat less cookies when I drink coffee but I only eat one cantuccini, or a piece of dark chocolate with my coffee.

That´s one of my vices I guess.

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I drink protein shakes before and after my workouts, both casein/albumin based ones and whey protein shakes (whey protein is a good post-workout drink). At home I add some fruits to my protein shake, especially if it´s not a bedtime protein shake:

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Lots of pistachios. And walnuts.

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Supplements/vitamins/minerals:

1 x 25 mg or 50 mg zinc (daily)

1 x vitamin b-complex (occasionally)

3 x omega3- fish oil capsules (daily)

I use a lot of olive oil for salads, or on toasted bread, or for breakfast, and I eat a lot of olives but they have to be of a very high quality.

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Lots of ginger root in hot tea or black tea, or green tea. Two or three cups of coffee ( but I´d like to reduce it to one or two cups a day), and fruit juice diluted in water. And lots of carrot juice!

I don´t buy red meats and eat very little of them, almost no chicken, my main protein sources are dairy based (yoghurt, cottage cheese, protein shakes, cheese) or fish (tuna, fresh fish, sardines, sea food, salmon, trout) but I like to experiment and I might reconsider my protein sources in the next few weeks.

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I´m very skeptical of high sugar consumption, especially HFCS, and artificial sweeteners. And I try to avoid processed meat and meat in general.

In the evening I often eat steamed veggies such as broccoli or peas with a bit of olive oil, tomato sauce, peppers and yoghurt on top.

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I try but so many healthy things severely upset my stomach, cause me pain or I just simply can't stand to eat. But it sure is pretty on the plate.

I'm finding I have to pay attention to the inflammatory factor of foods now. Something as simple as using grapeseed oil vs. extra virgin olive oil has a profound affect on me and how I feel. Per the literature grapeseed oil is suppose to be much more healthier than olive oil in certain areas, but I found out it is extremely inflammatory where olive oil is extremely anti-inflammatory, olive oil wins based on it makes me feel. Pretty much how it goes with a lot of foods, like oats, I avoid like a plague but other grains don't seem to bother me.

dont forget that people who are 100 now had much less sugar in their life than we do

almost everything at stores and restaurants have sugar added .. people used to drink water .. now they drink soda or at very least juice

look at obese children and tell me they grew up on the same kinds of food as your grammy

not likely

sure you can say everything in moderation .. but when "everything" is presented with tons of sugar and other crap "growth hormones" "pesticides" you are not really choosing moderation .. its choosing from an overwhelming amount of poison laced food

better to clense the system as much as possible

its like those assholes who think floride in the water is a good idea .. floride is poison .. says it right on your toothepaste .. but now its in everyones drinking water .. you can't just say its fine in moderation when its in every thing you drink

ZombieKitten said:

My grandmas are 98 and 103 respectively. The younger one liked a grapefruit soda to mix her drink on a Saturday night and Noblesse bittersweet chocolate. The other makes redcurrant jelly (still!) which she eats for breakfast with her porridge. It's very very sweet!! I'd say the younger one ate more healthy and exercised daily but was a smoker until her 40s, but neither would have thought to avoid sugar as part of a healthy diet. They are Swedish! Every day fika means a coffee and CAKE! Their secret is: don't let yourself get overweight, everything in moderation. Avoid processed foods (my grandmas always made everything from scratch), grow your own vegies, and don't eat things you're allergic to. Trim the meat from your fat, keep a glass of water next to you, walk somewhere rather than drive, get some sun and fresh air and laugh a LOT. I think that's it

All sounds like the whole Michael Pollan philosophy: Eat Food, Not too much, Mostly Plants.

It sounds silly, but when you look at it and break it down that's what it all comes down to. And of course the exercising. Thomas Jefferson says at least 2 hours a day.

It's hard though.

Ottensen said:

BarbieJones said:

I love sardines. [img:$uid]http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/coma/images/issues/200707/sardines-sidebar.jpg[/img:$uid]

I do too! with a spritz of lemon, a bit of sea salt & cracked black & red pepper on warm crusty bread . It time to get my shopping one and I think you just tempted me to add some sardines to the list

Chile please! I LOVE sardines, especiially the ones packed in mustard. I like them on saltine crackers with a little hot sauce sprindled on top. Can't stand those nasty anchovies though. And once, years ago, my Trinidadian boyfriend tried to play my hankering for sardines by substituting with what he called "Kippers." That shit was nasty, too!

I must tell you all this;

I volunteer in a homeless shelter.

One day an 18 wheeler showed up full of food for us, yahoo!!!!!

One out of 10 items was Ramen Noodles.

Another 1 tenth was some sort of Mac and cheese thing.

I can not believe how much junk food came in to feed the poor. Like the poor need more empty calories and sodium. I wish that people who gave white starch to the poor had to pay for their diabetes medication and those that give salty foods had to contribute to high blood medication and surgery.

Of course, THEY MEAN WELL, but friggin think people.

Certainly nuts, and even some cereals are better packaged food then what you are giving these people. Many of the people who qualify to get food from a food pantry are feeding that food to their KIDS, over and over again .

Shyra said:

Ottensen said:

I do too! with a spritz of lemon, a bit of sea salt & cracked black & red pepper on warm crusty bread . It time to get my shopping one and I think you just tempted me to add some sardines to the list

Chile please! I LOVE sardines, especiially the ones packed in mustard. I like them on saltine crackers with a little hot sauce sprindled on top. Can't stand those nasty anchovies though. And once, years ago, my Trinidadian boyfriend tried to play my hankering for sardines by substituting with what he called "Kippers." That shit was nasty, too!

Meeee tooooo!! I mix mine with a bit of cider vinegar and spread it on a saltine..

BarbieJones said:

I love sardines. [img:$uid]http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/coma/images/issues/200707/sardines-sidebar.jpg[/img:$uid]

I have not had sardines in a very very long time.

They remind me of my mom and lazy Saturday afternoons just sitting around and eating them with the saltines still in the wax paper. We would each get a row of saltines and just go to town. No one else in the family got into them. We both also like smelts.

Deadflow3r said:

I'm vegan, so I eat great

Lots of vegetables (especially green ones!) , lots of nuts and legumes, lots of soy and tofu, lots of fruit.

Juiced up a bunch of carrots, cucumber, oranges and apples yesterday.

Have lots of energy today!

NDRU said:

Juiced up a bunch of carrots, cucumber, oranges and apples yesterday.

Have lots of energy today!

Fruit and vegatable juice together? Awful!

I'm feeling a little tired lately, what supplement should I be taking? D, B or C fish oil?

OzlemUcucu said:

BarbieJones said:

Deadflow3r said:

BarbieJones said:

I love sardines.

I have not had sardines in a very very long time.

They remind me of my mom and lazy Saturday afternoons just sitting around and eating them with the saltines still in the wax paper. We would each get a row of saltines and just go to town. No one else in the family got into them. We both also like smelts.

Honey...

OzlemUcucu said:

BarbieJones said:

Ew, no. I meant honey as in: "Honey...that's some good eats!"

Oh. I was wondering. One never knows.

From the major farmer's market, I love the bulk mixed nuts with no peanuts, unsalted and mix them with the bulk dark chocolate covered almonds to nibble on regularly. I'm a nibbler. Just a hand full keep cravings way down, they have a moderate anti-inflammatory number, high in omega-6, even though they are fatty the cholestrol is very low (my numbers in that area are very good), have a high fiber content, high mineral content, and I love them, and so does my skin. Unfortunately I only like this stores kind.

Also a bulk multigrain rice, I only get from this store, it's so aromic and flavorful without adding any other seasonings. When I've bought other store brands they are always so bland I can't eat them. Grain is the one thing I have the biggest problem with. After sitting down with my nutritionist, grains are suppose to make up the bulk of my diet (at least 7 servings) and they never have my entire life.

On a scale of 1 to 10? zero.

I eat pretty well. I never snack. I always eat three meals a day, and almost always at the same time of day.

I eat all food groups and mainly just try to watch my portion size. The hardest thing for me is to leave food uneaten on the plate. It's like that's a mortal sin to me.

I'm a Type II diabetic and shoot up with insulin twice a day, and I STILL eat chocolate. Just not very much. We get those "fun size" little bars. Chocolate is very good for you, just don't eat very much at one time.

I also drink coffee every day (very good for you), but I don't drink as much red wine as I should.

I try to stay away from empty calories as much as possible. I drink a good amount of water, but not a gallon.

I drink milk every day. Milk is awesome. I've competed in every sport there is all my life, including motocross, and have never broken a bone. Maybe I didn't go fast enough on my bike, LOL.

I can feel it when I add a couple pounds to my belly, but I'm very fortunate in that it's easy for me to drop them if I need to. Even at age 53.

I'm still getting stronger and stronger. I set a new personal benchpress record last week - 311 pounds! I never thought I'd get 300 pounds up but now I can see myself benching 400 pounds. I give all the glory to that to God. I've also set new personal highs in every other muscle group this year.

Erin, do you want to adopt me? I'd just eat your meals all day long (I don't even have to sit at your table, if you don't want me to...) and otherwise I'll be a quiet, calm and good boy. Is that okay?