JustErin said:

HuMpThAnG said:

well, that's sad

Maybe, I think it's more sad that a man would stay with a woman like that...but what do I care about other people's relationships?

That can go either way..

Still sad

I'd say it's pretty important to a great marriage, but great sex certainly does not=great marriage!

A prenuptual agreement is the main thing that determines a great marriage.

nammie said:

fred12 said:

My wife and I were talking about how people say that sex determines the marriage. Just wanna know what you all think about that. Is it better to know what you are getting at first, or are you going to look at it from the Christian religious point-of-view,"NO SHACKING UP!" If the sex is not great, will the marriage be great?

My ex-husband was a lousy lover in the beginning, but we had excellent communication & were very open with each other. We talked about our sexual preferences-- lucky for me he was a good listener and took direction very well.

After working at it for a few months things we both improved and learned a great deal about each other's sexuality. From that point on he was one the best lovers I have ever had, but guess what...

That still didn't stop that muthafucka from taking all the skills I taught him and testing it out on every bitch on this side of the Mississippi

IMHO bad sex can break a relationship but fantastic sex won't save one.

Damn!! I guess some things are better left untaught

vainandy said:

A prenuptual agreement is the main thing that determines a great marriage.

Seriously.

I don't think its the ALMIGHTY thing that keeps people together but it can be a major issue of what tears a marriage apart. They're so many other variables to the ebbs and flows of marriage... sometimes its not how you start out but how you end up. You do have a lot of couples in sexless marriages.... the shit can get complicated.

TD3 said:

Seriously.

I don't think its the ALMIGHTY thing that keeps people together but it can be a major issue of what tears a marriage apart. They're so many other variables to the ebbs and flows of marriage... sometimes its not how you start out but how you end up. You do have a lot of couples in sexless marriages.... the shit can get complicated.

I agree.

Stymie said:

TD3 said:

Seriously.

I don't think its the ALMIGHTY thing that keeps people together but it can be a major issue of what tears a marriage apart. They're so many other variables to the ebbs and flows of marriage... sometimes its not how you start out but how you end up. You do have a lot of couples in sexless marriages.... the shit can get complicated.

I agree.

I agree x2

RenHoek said:

Because it is the ULTIMATE closeness you can experience with your partner I'd say it has a lot to do with a great marriage...

Not just marriage but any romantic relationship. I think good communication is more important than great sex.

Luckily I have both!

Shanti0608 said:

RenHoek said:

Because it is the ULTIMATE closeness you can experience with your partner I'd say it has a lot to do with a great marriage...

Not just marriage but any romantic relationship. I think good communication is more important than great sex.

Luckily I have both!

Well, that's it really. If both share the same value on sex (whether it be important or not) then cool, it works.

But if one partner is left really unsatisfied, communicated that to their partner and things still do not change, I seriously do not understand how they could stay in the marriage....no matter how much they love them.

What a miserable existence.

JustErin said:

Shanti0608 said:

Not just marriage but any romantic relationship. I think good communication is more important than great sex.

Luckily I have both!

Well, that's it really. If both share the same value on sex (whether it be important or not) then cool, it works.

But if one partner is left really unsatisfied, communicated that to their partner and things still do not change, I seriously do not understand how they could stay in the marriage....no matter how much they love them.

What a miserable existence.

I agree.

I've only had great sex with one man -- and he was the only man I've ever wanted to marry (didn't happen).

There were other men interested in taking the walk, but I checked out long before it became a reality because things were just lukewarm sexually.

Sex isn't just sex for me. It's a reflection of the cosmic energy between two people. If you're not sparking fire and amazement together when conjoined then maybe the Universe is not trying to bring you guys together. Just saying.

I don't even really belive in teaching the other person extensively -- because that's fake. If you don't instinctively or intuitively vibe sexually, why cover it up with contrivance and artifice?

I "taught" a man how to make love to me once. While it was amazing, I knew it was inorganic and somehow not a testament to any authentic soul connection between us.

SynthiaRose said:

I've only had great sex with one man -- and he was the only man I've ever wanted to marry (didn't happen).

There were other men interested in taking the walk, but I checked out long before it became a reality because things were just lukewarm sexually.

Sex isn't just sex for me. It's a reflection of the cosmic energy between two people. If you're not sparking fire and amazement together when conjoined then maybe the Universe is not trying to bring you guys together. Just saying.

I don't even really belive in teaching the other person extensively -- because that's fake. If you don't instinctively or intuitively vibe sexually, why cover it up with contrivance and artifice?

I "taught" a man how to make love to me once. While it was amazing, I knew it was inorganic and somehow not a testament to any authentic soul connection between us.

Interesting.

I've only had great sex with one man and I didn't want to marry him. Since sex has been such a losing proposition for me (the other person usually is the winner in this situation), it just is not a big deal for me. I rather have the companionship.

I have soul connections with many people. I'm not interested in fucking most of them.

JustErin said:

Shanti0608 said:

Not just marriage but any romantic relationship. I think good communication is more important than great sex.

Luckily I have both!

Well, that's it really. If both share the same value on sex (whether it be important or not) then cool, it works.

But if one partner is left really unsatisfied, communicated that to their partner and things still do not change, I seriously do not understand how they could stay in the marriage....no matter how much they love them.

What a miserable existence.

Sounds miserable to me but I have known & heard of some men and women that don't find sex to be the most important thing in a relationship. Depends on the couple I suppose but like you said, they would both need to have the same priorities for them both to be happy.

Stymie said:

Interesting.

I've only had great sex with one man and I didn't want to marry him. Since sex has been such a losing proposition for me (the other person usually is the winner in this situation), it just is not a big deal for me. I rather have the companionship.

I have soul connections with many people. I'm not interested in fucking most of them.

Soul connection + great fucking is top-of-the-pyramid shit! But yeah, so very rare to find. *sigh*

SynthiaRose said:

Stymie said:

Interesting.

I've only had great sex with one man and I didn't want to marry him. Since sex has been such a losing proposition for me (the other person usually is the winner in this situation), it just is not a big deal for me. I rather have the companionship.

I have soul connections with many people. I'm not interested in fucking most of them.

Soul connection + great fucking is top-of-the-pyramid shit! But yeah, so very rare to find. *sigh*

I'll settle for the soul connection.

JustErin said:

Shanti0608 said:

Not just marriage but any romantic relationship. I think good communication is more important than great sex.

Luckily I have both!

Well, that's it really. If both share the same value on sex (whether it be important or not) then cool, it works.

But if one partner is left really unsatisfied, communicated that to their partner and things still do not change, I seriously do not understand how they could stay in the marriage....no matter how much they love them.

What a miserable existence.

That's what I meant by it being sad

Shanti0608 said:

JustErin said:

Well, that's it really. If both share the same value on sex (whether it be important or not) then cool, it works.

But if one partner is left really unsatisfied, communicated that to their partner and things still do not change, I seriously do not understand how they could stay in the marriage....no matter how much they love them.

What a miserable existence.

Sounds miserable to me but I have known & heard of some men and women that don't find sex to be the most important thing in a relationship. Depends on the couple I suppose but like you said, they would both need to have the same priorities for them both to be happy.

or a couple is happy with the non sexual parts of their relationship and takes the sex elsewehere.

Tremolina said:

Tremolina said:

Shanti0608 said:

Sounds miserable to me but I have known & heard of some men and women that don't find sex to be the most important thing in a relationship. Depends on the couple I suppose but like you said, they would both need to have the same priorities for them both to be happy.

or a couple is happy with the non sexual parts of their relationship and takes the sex elsewehere.

whatever works for that couple, I guess they would just have to agree.

fred12 said:

My wife and I were talking about how people say that sex determines the marriage. Just wanna know what you all think about that. Is it better to know what you are getting at first, or are you going to look at it from the Christian religious point-of-view,"NO SHACKING UP!" If the sex is not great, will the marriage be great?

Sex and marriage are two different things. One is a piece of paper that is a promise until one or both parties no longer want to commit to that contract. The other is a form of enlightenment. Its purpose is to stimulate the chakras, meridian points, atoms, glucks and gleums so the "human" spirit, which sits on a different plane than the physical we live, can reach the "god" conscience.

Humans can help each other reach the "god" conscience, that is commonly known as an orgasm. However, its so much more spiritual and otherworldly when a human connects to this conscience alone.

Sex MUST be compatible for any physical relationship to become long term.

In the 21st century, both parties need to write down and talk about what they want physically from the marriage before that piece of paper is signed. If the other person is not going to provide that stimulant, the partner that seeks more should find a person that is on the same sexual level and want to go higher.

Religion, which was created by man, should never determine when any consenting "adult" human wants to participate in sex.

If you need to spruce up your sex life, try Tantric Yoga. Get closer to your higher self.

incognito said:

fred12 said:

My wife and I were talking about how people say that sex determines the marriage. Just wanna know what you all think about that. Is it better to know what you are getting at first, or are you going to look at it from the Christian religious point-of-view,"NO SHACKING UP!" If the sex is not great, will the marriage be great?

Sex and marriage are two different things. One is a piece of paper that is a promise until one or both parties no longer want to commit to that contract. The other is a form of enlightenment. Its purpose is to stimulate the chakras, meridian points, atoms, glucks and gleums so the "human" spirit, which sits on a different plane than the physical we live, can reach the "god" conscience.

Humans can help each other reach the "god" conscience, that is commonly known as an orgasm. However, its so much more spiritual and otherworldly when a human connects to this conscience alone.

Sex MUST be compatible for any physical relationship to become long term.

In the 21st century, both parties need to write down and talk about what they want physically from the marriage before that piece of paper is signed. If the other person is not going to provide that stimulant, the partner that seeks more should find a person that is on the same sexual level and want to go higher.

Religion, which was created by man, should never determine when any consenting "adult" human wants to participate in sex.

If you need to spruce up your sex life, try Tantric Yoga. Get closer to your higher self.

Sorry but

But I know a few who often reach their God conscience with many different people every week. It must really work because they always look very happy and enlighted. Except when they have to get checked for STDs every 6 months or so

obviously

I believe GOOD SEX is a HUGE part of a good marriage. However, it should be the frosting on a great-tasting cake and not something used to make up for what's missing. Communication, understanding, trust and true intimacy will allow a couple to commit much deeper to one another and good sex seals the deal. Of course where would be without LOVE?

incognito said:

It's called a condom. People should use it to stop the spread of STDs. I highly recommended to go it alone, as in tantric yoga. It's the best and perfect way to reach the "god" conscience. I know.

There are many STDs that cannot be prevented with a condom. Maybe I will try reaching my God conscience alone as you suggest.

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My only motivation is sex.I only been with prostitutes.I have no emotional connection with the world.

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Stymie said:

SynthiaRose said:

Soul connection + great fucking is top-of-the-pyramid shit! But yeah, so very rare to find. *sigh*

I'll settle for the soul connection.

Me too, but I don't have a vagina. The ass wasn't designed for sex so I don't buy that anal is as important as vaginal sex.