^^ No one give a damn if Joe Jonas sucks a mean dick. He sucks as a singer.

Gunsnhalen said:

Raven? i must have missed this one.

ditto!

Ottensen said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Whatthehell are you rolling your eyes for now?

You know, sometimes, it actually helps to articulate a train of thought to have people understand your point of view. Just sayin'

Timmy84 said:

^^ No one give a damn if Joe Jonas sucks a mean dick. He sucks as a singer.

Awwww. That ain't right.

TonyVanDam said:

free2bfreeda said:

and while ur at it hopefully you will not only rest your case, perhaps it'd be better and less agonizing for you to make what ever point it is that you are trying to make and put your case to

sleep.

tonyvd, (with all due respect 2u) sometimes:

it is better to keep ones mouth closed and let people think you a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.”

mark twain

Oh I should shut up and not have a thread like this at all, but yet it's OK for 1DirXtion to have a thread (in Music Non-Prince no less) asking everyone if we think Joe Jonah is gay?!?:

http://prince.org/msg/8/381974

What a f***ing double standard in the org.

tony, Tony, TONY!!!!!!! pls calm yourself. i never replied at this link: http://prince.org/msg/8/381974 . so why are you generalizing? why don't you go back and re-read all your replies and ask your self, "am i stressing and acting all agitated just because people have their own views on the topic, and it seems to be in disagreement with mine?

well tonyvd remember, we all have the freedom of our individual opinions. i know you know, that in the real world of people it's okay to agree to disagree. if it's about having the last word whether your are right or wrong is your perogative.

i was just concerned that you were getting your linens in a crunchy bunch for no logical reason.

and no, you should not shut up. this is your thread. you should stand up for what you believe in, because i'm sure going to stand up for what i believe in.

however maybe (with all due caring 2 u), and perhaps you should take a chill pill and chill out. aka: calm it, calm down, cool out, cool off, settle down and don't take other's opinions so (seemingly) personal.

or maybe better yet, read the following lyrics. and if you have time listen to the song on youtube.

Stand

(written by- sly and the family stone)

Stand
In the end you`ll still be you
One that`s done all the things you set out to do
Stand
There`s a cross for you to bear
Things to go through if you`re going anywhere
Stand
For the things you know are right
It s the truth that the truth makes them so uptight
Stand
All the things you want are real
You have you to complete and there is no deal
Stand. stand, stand
Stand. stand, stand
Stand
You`ve been sitting much too long
There`s a permanent crease in your right and wrong
Stand
There`s a midget standing tall
And the giant beside him about to fall
Stand
They will try to make you crawl
And they know what you`re saying makes sense and all
Stand
Don`t you know that you/we are *free
Well at least in your/our mind if you/we want to be

free2bFreeda

in the past i've always been a someone who had your org back if i agreed w/u, and will in the future. however we all have a respected right to be in disagreement w/each other without feeling hurt or rattled to the point of acting like an emotional jitter-oscillator.

Damn guys y'all... gotta cool it now... oooh watch out! before you lose control!

I used to think Freddie Jackson and to an extent Johnny Gill were gay.. But I now i just think they were corny as hell.

These thread is interesting from both sides though. (tvd and free2befreeda)

Cerebus said:

Timmy84 said:

^^ No one give a damn if Joe Jonas sucks a mean dick. He sucks as a singer.

Awwww. That ain't right.

He does though.

Timmy84 said:

Cerebus said:

Awwww. That ain't right.

He does though.

Doesn't mean there isn't anybody in the whole wide world that would want him to swallow the ol' trowser snake.

Cerebus said:

Timmy84 said:

He does though.

Doesn't mean there isn't anybody in the whole wide world that would want him to swallow the ol' trowser snake.

Well of course not.

dJJ said:

Stymie said:

And Freddie has not denied anything. He just said it's nobody's business but his. Same as what Raven did on Twitter.

Yeah, but it's also not something to be shamed about. And acting mysterious about it does imply that.

I disagree. I don't think these three are acting mysterious at all. They're just simply clear that their personal lives are their own, not ours, and they will carry on as they see fit without consulting the general public at every given turn. For me, it's essentially the opposite of fame whoring one's intimate life, and frankly, I wish more people would learn this type of discretion and follow suit (regardless of their sexual orientation). As an entertainer, I don't nee to know who you're ****ing, I really don't.

Gunsnhalen said:

Timmy84 said:

It wasn't true at all.

Figured...

As a gay man myself, gay people can be fucking annoying. I'm just straight up , gay men a lot of them are all about this. Let's talk shit about straight people cause they don't accept us, than they want to turn the straight man gay or want to see 2 straight guys making out or outing a straight guy.

Hell no there is this thing in the gay community, where gay guys like to find straight man who are married to women & have sex with them cause it's a huge rush

Why in the mother fucking hell can you homos not just fuck other homos , it's less drama that way.

The thing is, if a guy so much as even lets another guy even touch his dick, other than the doctor examining it, then he's not straight. These are the type of guys that are bashing us, not straight guys. Actual straight guys don't have a problem with us. We're not fooling with women which means less competition and more women for them. Actual straight men aren't fooling around with us either so they have no skeletons in their own closet and no reason to hate us. Straight men do not "experiment" with other guys, they have no desire to. When the excuse of "experimenting" came out was only when they got caught fooling around and couldn't lie their way out of it. Other than getting caught, these men that "experiment" have been the main ones bashing us.

It's not as simple as just letting these men do as they please behind closed doors and write it off as a simple matter of "it's their business" because these type of men are the ones that bash us so what they do behind closed doors becomes our business because they're doing it with us. They deserve to be on the receiving end of the bashing since they love to dish it out so much. A gay man that doesn't out these motherfuckers is no better than a black woman who sleeps with a racist white man and tolerates it and doesn't fight back. If we don't start fighting back the hypocrits, we will always be second class citizens.

PurpleRighteous1 said:

They're not in denial. It's just none of our fucking business. The fact is, being a homosexual in this country makes you less than. PERIOD. Fuck all the gay friendly shit you see. The big picture says being gay isn't cool around these parts.

Not to mention, the media expects to get all in your business and ask all types of questions about your relationship and life as a gay person once they come out. I don't think it's fair that just because many celebrities are open about their sexuality to show solidarity and pride in just being who they are, doesn't mean every celebrity should be comfortable talking about something that is actually extremely personal and private.

I agree. I'm perfectly fine with them simply keeping their mouths shut about their private life and at the same time going about their daily routine being themselves and flaunting who they are without confirming nor denying it.

I'm the same way with my family and have been for years. I am completely myself around them and act the same around them as I do anyone else. I've never told them what I am and at the same time I've never denied what I am. Actually, I have flaunted who I am around them. They never see women come around other than just obvious friends and they have seen several men come around which I'm sure they wonder about because it has been obvious that we're more than friends. I've also had openly gay flaming queen friends come around which I'm sure confuses the hell out of them. I've only had one family member to question anything and by the time I got through cussing them out and letting them know that my business is my business, that they were free to make whatever assumptions they wanted to make about me, and that the fact that I didn't give a lovely fuck whether they liked or didn't like their assumptions about me, they never asked another question, ever again. I don't deny anything because I would be a hypocrit if I did, and at the same time, I don't confirm and leave the door open for wisecracks and jokes from them because the only jokes about my sex life are when I make them jokes and family members aren't exactly the type of people I like to joke around with. Andy ain't nobody's clown. I'm too much of a mean evil bitch for that. Miss Prince has taught me well over the years.

imago said:

PurpleRighteous1 said:

They're not in denial. It's just none of our fucking business. The fact is, being a homosexual in this country makes you less than. PERIOD. Fuck all the gay friendly shit you see. The big picture says being gay isn't cool around these parts.

Not to mention, the media expects to get all in your business and ask all types of questions about your relationship and life as a gay person once they come out. I don't think it's fair that just because many celebrities are open about their sexuality to show solidarity and pride in just being who they are, doesn't mean every celebrity should be comfortable talking about something that is actually extremely personal and private.

THIS!

That is why Prince has a right to not come out.

.

[Edited 6/5/12 21:18pm]

Adisa said:

TonyVanDam said:

Have you even readied Dr. Marables' book?

I did, and you know that other orgers here have also. The book states that he may have had a hustle going with some old white queen that Malcolm mentions in Autobiography..., involving baths and massages or something like that. To conspircacy theorists, homophobes, or people that like drama it may mean that was certainly gay or bi. To others it mat mean he was a hustler, and sexaulity had no bearing in the relationship to Malcolm.

Malcolm (as Detriot Red) was naked along with the old white man while given him baths, massages, and body powder while the old white man was getting off in the process. If THAT isn't the perfect example of being "gay to get paid" OR "bi to get by", I don't know what the hell is.

Timmy84 said:

^^ No one give a damn if Joe Jonas sucks a mean dick. He sucks as a singer.

I agree with your opinion.

free2bfreeda said:

TonyVanDam said:

Oh I should shut up and not have a thread like this at all, but yet it's OK for 1DirXtion to have a thread (in Music Non-Prince no less) asking everyone if we think Joe Jonah is gay?!?:

http://prince.org/msg/8/381974

What a f***ing double standard in the org.

tony, Tony, TONY!!!!!!! pls calm yourself. i never replied at this link: http://prince.org/msg/8/381974 . so why are you generalizing? why don't you go back and re-read all your replies and ask your self, "am i stressing and acting all agitated just because people have their own views on the topic, and it seems to be in disagreement with mine?

well tonyvd remember, we all have the freedom of our individual opinions. i know you know, that in the real world of people it's okay to agree to disagree. if it's about having the last word whether your are right or wrong is your perogative.

i was just concerned that you were getting your linens in a crunchy bunch for no logical reason.

and no, you should not shut up. this is your thread. you should stand up for what you believe in, because i'm sure going to stand up for what i believe in.

however maybe (with all due caring 2 u), and perhaps you should take a chill pill and chill out. aka: calm it, calm down, cool out, cool off, settle down and don't take other's opinions so (seemingly) personal.

or maybe better yet, read the following lyrics. and if you have time listen to the song on youtube.

Stand

(written by- sly and the family stone)

Stand
In the end you`ll still be you
One that`s done all the things you set out to do
Stand
There`s a cross for you to bear
Things to go through if you`re going anywhere
Stand
For the things you know are right
It s the truth that the truth makes them so uptight
Stand
All the things you want are real
You have you to complete and there is no deal
Stand. stand, stand
Stand. stand, stand
Stand
You`ve been sitting much too long
There`s a permanent crease in your right and wrong
Stand
There`s a midget standing tall
And the giant beside him about to fall
Stand
They will try to make you crawl
And they know what you`re saying makes sense and all
Stand
Don`t you know that you/we are *free
Well at least in your/our mind if you/we want to be

free2bFreeda

in the past i've always been a someone who had your org back if i agreed w/u, and will in the future. however we all have a respected right to be in disagreement w/each other without feeling hurt or rattled to the point of acting like an emotional jitter-oscillator.

I'm not upset at all. Just disappointed for a minute.

AsherFierce said:

Damn guys y'all... gotta cool it now... oooh watch out! before you lose control!

I used to think Freddie Jackson and to an extent Johnny Gill were gay.. But I now i just think they were corny as hell.

These thread is interesting from both sides though. (tvd and free2befreeda)

Well thank you.

Gunsnhalen said:

Personally, i don't think it's anyones business.

People are so hard pressed to know about celebrities lifes... why? we don't know these fools in person we are not eating with them, fucking them or going out with them.

TD3 said:

Gunsnhalen said:

Personally, i don't think it's anyones business.

People are so hard pressed to know about celebrities lifes... why? we don't know these fools in person we are not eating with them, fucking them or going out with them.

also in agreement^^^^^^^^^^^

TonyVanDam said:

Adisa said:

I did, and you know that other orgers here have also. The book states that he may have had a hustle going with some old white queen that Malcolm mentions in Autobiography..., involving baths and massages or something like that. To conspircacy theorists, homophobes, or people that like drama it may mean that was certainly gay or bi. To others it mat mean he was a hustler, and sexaulity had no bearing in the relationship to Malcolm.

Malcolm (as Detriot Red) was naked along with the old white man while given him baths, massages, and body powder while the old white man was getting off in the process. If THAT isn't the perfect example of being "gay to get paid" OR "bi to get by", I don't know what the hell is.

"believe half of what you see and none of what you hear." imo unless you were there to see it, believe it not my dear.

free2bfreeda said:

TonyVanDam said:

Malcolm (as Detriot Red) was naked along with the old white man while given him baths, massages, and body powder while the old white man was getting off in the process. If THAT isn't the perfect example of being "gay to get paid" OR "bi to get by", I don't know what the hell is.

"believe half of what you see and none of what you hear." imo unless you were there to see it, believe it not my dear.

Sounds like one of John Travolta's accusers' stories.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Timmy84 said:

free2bfreeda said:

"believe half of what you see and none of what you hear." imo unless you were there to see it, believe it not my dear.

Sounds like one of John Travolta's accusers' stories.

Timmy84 said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Aw shoot. You made an L. You speshul.

Cerebus said:

Timmy84 said:

Aw shoot. You made an L. You speshul.

and a "speshul" L at that. But he may take L's though.

Ottensen said:

dJJ said:

Yeah, but it's also not something to be shamed about. And acting mysterious about it does imply that.

I disagree. I don't think these three are acting mysterious at all. They're just simply clear that their personal lives are their own, not ours, and they will carry on as they see fit without consulting the general public at every given turn. For me, it's essentially the opposite of fame whoring one's intimate life, and frankly, I wish more people would learn this type of discretion and follow suit (regardless of their sexual orientation). As an entertainer, I don't nee to know who you're ****ing, I really don't.

Saying you are gay is very different then participating in media circus. You can be gay and still be private about your love life.

dJJ said:

Ottensen said:

I disagree. I don't think these three are acting mysterious at all. They're just simply clear that their personal lives are their own, not ours, and they will carry on as they see fit without consulting the general public at every given turn. For me, it's essentially the opposite of fame whoring one's intimate life, and frankly, I wish more people would learn this type of discretion and follow suit (regardless of their sexual orientation). As an entertainer, I don't nee to know who you're ****ing, I really don't.

Saying you are gay is very different then participating in media circus. You can be gay and still be private about your love life.

...and you can be gay not not feel inclined to make an official announcement about it to strangers (i.e. the public at large), under any circumstances. No one owes me, you or anyone else that information, point-blank-period.

dJJ said:

Ottensen said:

I disagree. I don't think these three are acting mysterious at all. They're just simply clear that their personal lives are their own, not ours, and they will carry on as they see fit without consulting the general public at every given turn. For me, it's essentially the opposite of fame whoring one's intimate life, and frankly, I wish more people would learn this type of discretion and follow suit (regardless of their sexual orientation). As an entertainer, I don't nee to know who you're ****ing, I really don't.

Saying you are gay is very different then participating in media circus. You can be gay and still be private about your love life.

The problem with that statement is announcing their sexuality creates a media circus that wasn't there before. And that circus will cause all kinds of issues in that celebrity's life whether they participate further or not. When you don't give them a story they make one (or more) up.

Gunsnhalen said:

Raven? i must have missed this one.