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Reply #60 posted 06/06/12 4:16am

imago

^^ That being said, my lawd Freddie Jackson gives tremendous gay face.

Who is he? I don't know. boxed

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Reply #61 posted 06/06/12 4:18am

imago

PurpleRighteous1 said:

They're not in denial. It's just none of our fucking business. The fact is, being a homosexual in this country makes you less than. PERIOD. Fuck all the gay friendly shit you see. The big picture says being gay isn't cool around these parts.shrug

Not to mention, the media expects to get all in your business and ask all types of questions about your relationship and life as a gay person once they come out. I don't think it's fair that just because many celebrities are open about their sexuality to show solidarity and pride in just being who they are, doesn't mean every celebrity should be comfortable talking about something that is actually extremely personal and private.

THIS!

That is why Prince has a right to not come out.

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Reply #62 posted 06/06/12 4:36am

dJJ

You guys are missing the most important point here:

I can hit on SAMANTA FOX???

Why did nobody tell me that earlier?

Like, when I was young and maybe even had a change with er.

sad

Please, spread this news in time from now on. Everybody deserves a fair change. I feel I missed out during the '80's...........If only I knew back then.

99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%.
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Reply #63 posted 06/06/12 6:27am

andykeen

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Maybe it's societies fault for expecting every person to be straight.


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Reply #64 posted 06/06/12 7:25am

Visionnaire

andykeen said:

Maybe it's societies fault for expecting every person to be straight.


I blame everything on society.
IMO, society is nothing but a buncha assholes.

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Reply #65 posted 06/06/12 7:35am

Ottensen

I don't think they're in denial as much as they feel their love lives are not the business of the general public. Everyone and their mama knows every woman Queen La has dated over the last 15 years, and Raven has pretty much just said mind ya business, just kknow that she's happy and leave it at that. Freddy I don't know what his stance is on his love life, although as a fun tidbit, I can share that in his earlier years he may have been bi, and not homosexual, as he once tried to saddle up next to my older sister apon meeting her through friends. It was funny as hell lol In any event, it doesn't make a difference-they're lives are their own and when they're off the clock and not providing me with enetertainment that way, they really don't owe me or anyone else windows into their private lives and especially not confirmations on who their sleeping with. coffee

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Reply #66 posted 06/06/12 7:45am

SoulAlive

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Raven? i must have missed this one.

There was a recent National Enquirer story about her and her 'secret lover'...a tall,skinny woman.Since then,she's been getting alot of questions about her sexuality...

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Reply #67 posted 06/06/12 7:47am

SoulAlive

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Reply #68 posted 06/06/12 10:50am

Ottensen

SoulAlive said:

Raven (who is currently starring on Broadway in Sister Act) openly lives in New York with her "alleged" model girlfriend Azmarie Livington (some might recognize her from America's Next top Model). I like how Raven separates her private relationships from her public life. I think it shows a lot of balance and maturity for people to do that rather than blab, post, or tweet every aspect of the intimate details of their lives. Beyond that, I like Azmarie's androgynous look. She's very striking.

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Reply #69 posted 06/06/12 11:02am

Ottensen

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Timmy84 said:

lol yeah the reason Perez's bullshit ain't reached y'all's news is because y'all still know how to separate bullshit from the real. Not such the case in the entertainment media here because those lines have been blurred for a while.

How i wish that was true! Dont believe the hype! The dumbed down ignorance is at an all time high here.

I belong to another entertainment forum where the site owner posts articles from the Mail as if they were legislation from the Parliament lol . Between that and her taking all her other articles from the blog," RealityTVmagazine" I've given up on trying to drop the hint that she may not have the most accurate sources to find celebrity news. Sweet lady, but she really takes everything she reads for absolute truth and authority from those sites lol

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Reply #70 posted 06/06/12 11:04am

SoulAlive

to answer the question.....in the R&B and hip-hop world,being gay is not really accepted.That's why there are so few openly black celebrities.Can you imagine what would happened if Luther Vandross "came out" in the 80s? His career would have ended right then and there.Look what happened to Tevin Campbell's career after his 'scandal' in the late 90s.Most of these people remain in the closet.

However,in the pop world,it's more accepted.Elton John came out many years ago,and his career hasn't suffered one bit (he came out as a bisexual in 1976 and has had numerous hits since then).Fergie and Lady Gaga have both said that they are bisexual and nobody raised any eyebrows.It's not even a big deal.

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Reply #71 posted 06/06/12 11:06am

SoulAlive

Ottensen said:

SoulAlive said:

Raven (who is currently starring on Broadway in Sister Act) openly lives in New York with her "alleged" model girlfriend Azmarie Livington (some might recognize her from America's Next top Model). I like how Raven separates her private relationships from her public life. I think it shows a lot of balance and maturity for people to do that rather than blab, post, or tweet every aspect of the intimate details of their lives. Beyond that, I like Azmarie's androgynous look. She's very striking.

I agree,Azmarie has a very interesting look nod Like you said,she is striking.

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Reply #72 posted 06/06/12 2:29pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

rolleyes

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #73 posted 06/06/12 3:06pm

dJJ

andykeen said:

Maybe it's societies fault for expecting every person to be straight.

The whole Travolta media hype shows how sad that state of society is.

It's the social pressure in the US to prove one is a good christian that reinforces the anti-gay culture.

However, you can choose your religion and you can choose how you will have any religion rule your personal opinions.

One cannot choose to be gay or not.

I think it's very strange US media talk about Travolta his alleged gay nature as it's being an important subject.

They skip the true important subject: that so many gay people in the US choose to cover up their true nature because of their fear of media's judgemental Christians' values.

The media generates societal norms. And the media cause gay people to have to suffer. A cover story about the suffering because they have to maintain a 'secret' life should be subject of media attention. In stead of blaming gay people to out themselves or not.

I'm proud that one of Holland's most important people, our minister of finance, from the Christan Party can be openly gay without a fuss. The only fuss about it was when it was mentioned in the media, that the media even would mention that. As if him being gay was something that was important to mention.

I feel bad that so many American individuals choose to be judgemental and cause so much suffering for gay people.

99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%.
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Reply #74 posted 06/06/12 4:03pm

Ottensen

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

rolleyes

Whatthehell are you rolling your eyes for now?

You know, sometimes, it actually helps to articulate a train of thought to have people understand your point of view. Just sayin' lol

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Reply #75 posted 06/06/12 4:25pm

2elijah

TonyVanDam said:

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I perfectly understand their point about keeping their private lives are "private" as possible. But why at the expense of insulting the intelligences of their straight & LGBT fans in the process? confused Or could it be that the homophobia of the black communities worldwide is too great for them to take that risk?

Their white counterparts such as Ellen Degeneres, Rosie O'Donnell, George Michael, & even Samantha Fox in years past has never held back who they were/are as strongly as Freddie, Queen, & Raven are at the moment.

Just saying.

I don't think it's necessary for them to make an announcement to the world about their sexuality, as though they are required to. I mean, I never hear anyone screaming and hollering or asking why some straight celebrities don't go around making public announcements like "Hey look at me! I'm straight! Now can I get a witness and some amens?!". I mean there is no requirement that states that if someone is gay, that they have to shout it to the world, because quite frankly, they don't owe anyone an explanation for their sexual preferences. Point blank.

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Reply #76 posted 06/06/12 4:49pm

missfee

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TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:

It wasn't true at all.

At the least, all of Malcolm's surving daughters denied the story. But the late Dr Manning Marables said otherwise during the results of his research for the makings of this biography:

[img:$uid]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ZwGOBK%2BtL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg[/img:$uid]

It was said that Malcolm was bi during the Detriot Red-era.

Complete bullshit.

[Edited 6/6/12 9:51am]

I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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Reply #77 posted 06/06/12 5:18pm

OldFriends4Sal
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babynoz said:

As I recall, George Michael was in the closet for most of his career. He was basically forced out due to legal troubles.

Neither Ellen nor Rosie came out right away either.

People come out in their own time or not...their choice.

I don't think that the conservative segment of the black community has as much influence as they had in the past though.

Agree, especially for celebs who are a part of mainstream life and integrated

But past influences ideas and beliefs can still trouble people like Freddie & Latifah

Freddie isn't in the limelight so it wouldn't matter as much

But Dana Owens is HUGE in cosmetics/modelling Cover Girl singing acting I mean she is a household name in WaSp suburban communities

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Reply #78 posted 06/06/12 5:21pm

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SoulAlive said:

to answer the question.....in the R&B and hip-hop world,being gay is not really accepted.That's why there are so few openly black celebrities.Can you imagine what would happened if Luther Vandross "came out" in the 80s? His career would have ended right then and there.Look what happened to Tevin Campbell's career after his 'scandal' in the late 90s.Most of these people remain in the closet.

However,in the pop world,it's more accepted.Elton John came out many years ago,and his career hasn't suffered one bit (he came out as a bisexual in 1976 and has had numerous hits since then).Fergie and Lady Gaga have both said that they are bisexual and nobody raised any eyebrows.It's not even a big deal.

Read a good article on him after he passed away

I remember back in the mid-late 80's his drummer committed suicide, he was strongly believed and know to be Luthers lover

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Reply #79 posted 06/06/12 5:32pm

OldFriends4Sal
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Raven could easily be experimenting or bi, but prefering men

Madonna has had women lovers too

Christina Agulera is supposedly into women big time too

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Reply #80 posted 06/06/12 5:38pm

OldFriends4Sal
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Raven Symone Gay Rumors: Actress Talks Sexual Orientation On Twitter

Posted: 05/18/2012 3:25 pm Updated: 05/18/2012 3:54 pm

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Reply #81 posted 06/06/12 5:41pm

Ottensen

OldFriends4Sale said:

babynoz said:

As I recall, George Michael was in the closet for most of his career. He was basically forced out due to legal troubles.

Neither Ellen nor Rosie came out right away either.

People come out in their own time or not...their choice.

I don't think that the conservative segment of the black community has as much influence as they had in the past though.

Agree, especially for celebs who are a part of mainstream life and integrated

But past influences ideas and beliefs can still trouble people like Freddie & Latifah

Freddie isn't in the limelight so it wouldn't matter as much

But Dana Owens is HUGE in cosmetics/modelling Cover Girl singing acting I mean she is a household name in WaSp suburban communities

I don't think her mainstream cosmetics contracts would be impacted, though. After all CoverGirl has international reach into countries where this sort of thing is a non-issue with their international consumers, and after all, for the past few years they've been just fine with having as a celebrity endorser:

Ellen DeGeneres, Simply Ageless Serum Primer CoverGirl Olay cosmetics

Now if Queen-La was the face of a company with a smaller cosmetics market share, in more a niche demographic, like say Black Opal...then I could see how that might be a difficulty...

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Reply #82 posted 06/06/12 5:42pm

OldFriends4Sal
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Ottensen said:

SoulAlive said:

Raven (who is currently starring on Broadway in Sister Act) openly lives in New York with her "alleged" model girlfriend Azmarie Livington (some might recognize her from America's Next top Model). I like how Raven separates her private relationships from her public life. I think it shows a lot of balance and maturity for people to do that rather than blab, post, or tweet every aspect of the intimate details of their lives. Beyond that, I like Azmarie's androgynous look. She's very striking.

She is very beautiful, I would date her

Maybe we should do a thread on tastefully androgynous people

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Reply #83 posted 06/06/12 7:18pm

Timmy84

Raven's homey IS a dimepiece... so is Raven for that matter. batting eyes

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Reply #84 posted 06/06/12 7:54pm

TonyVanDam

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JuliePurplehead said:

There are not a lot of roles out there for strong, black women in Hollywood. I'm guessing if Latifah & Raven came out there would be even less roles for them. Hollywood is stupid. I think it's great when anyone lives their life openly but I respect their need for privacy. I love Ellen and I love that she's being embraced however I do feel the media defines her by her sexuality. And I can see how someone in a similar position would try to avoid that.

But there are plenty of non-straight people in the entertainment industry. Just ask Tom Cruise.

Oops, did I say that?!? lurking

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Reply #85 posted 06/06/12 8:05pm

TonyVanDam

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smoothcriminal12 said:

So is this your new obsession Tony? First it was the Illuminati, and now you wanna out every gay/bisexual person in Hollywood? lol

Not at all. Please re-read in opening post.

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Reply #86 posted 06/06/12 8:08pm

TonyVanDam

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smoothcriminal12 said:

Timmy84 said:

He's like Jacky Jasper, the guy that runs this site called Diary of a Hollywood Street King. That dude does the same damn thing. lol

lol At first it was one post...then it turned to tons...and now a thread. I mean damn. lol Dude don't even talk about the Illuminati anymore. lol

Get the PM.

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Reply #87 posted 06/06/12 8:23pm

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imago said:

^^ That being said, my lawd Freddie Jackson gives tremendous gay face.

Who is he? I don't know. boxed

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Reply #88 posted 06/06/12 8:32pm

Timmy84

TonyVanDam said:

JuliePurplehead said:

There are not a lot of roles out there for strong, black women in Hollywood. I'm guessing if Latifah & Raven came out there would be even less roles for them. Hollywood is stupid. I think it's great when anyone lives their life openly but I respect their need for privacy. I love Ellen and I love that she's being embraced however I do feel the media defines her by her sexuality. And I can see how someone in a similar position would try to avoid that.

But there are plenty of non-straight people in the entertainment industry. Just ask Tom Cruise.

Oops, did I say that?!? lurking

[Edited 6/6/12 12:54pm]

Tom ain't gay, he's just a slut (like Travolta)...

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Reply #89 posted 06/06/12 8:34pm

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missfee said:

TonyVanDam said:

At the least, all of Malcolm's surving daughters denied the story. But the late Dr Manning Marables said otherwise during the results of his research for the makings of this biography:

[img:$uid]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ZwGOBK%2BtL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg[/img:$uid]

It was said that Malcolm was bi during the Detriot Red-era.

Complete bullshit.

[Edited 6/6/12 9:51am]

Have you even readied Dr. Marables' book?

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