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Topless protest against sex tourism at Euro 2012 in Ukraine (NSFW)

Euro 2012: Femen activists protest Euro 2012, say tournament will 'promote sex tourism in Ukraine'

Hundreds of thousands of soccer fans will flock to the Ukraine during Euro 2012, which will only worsen the country’s sex trade crisis. That’s according to Femen, the Kiev-based activist group that has staged numerous protests against the tournament it considers a major threat to the safety of its defenseless female population. ‘Ukrainian women have the unfortunate reputation as beautiful, cheap sex dolls, and when the fans get here that image will only be reinforced,’ said Femen founder Anna Gutsol.

Tuesday, June 5, 2012, 12:54 PM

Fans attending Euro 2012 in Ukraine may be confronted by the continent's briefest mini-skirts and lowest-cut tops, but they will barely glimpse the day-to-day life difficulties faced by women in the former Soviet republic, rights activists say.

"Fans are going to see lots of attractive women and for many that is going to reinforce the negative image our women have abroad," Anna Gutsol, founder and spokeswoman for the Femen political action group.

"Most foreigners aren't even going to begin to think how hard life for female Ukrainians is, they'll just look at us like some kind of pretty piece of candy," she said.

Femen is notorious in Ukraine for its tactic of sending attractive young women to a public location to strip topless and shout about their causes, and loudly resisting police and security guards sent to quiet them.

The Euro 2012 championships, touted by the Ukrainian government as a major milestone in the country's efforts to integrate with the European Community, will do little for average Ukrainians and could make things for women worse, Gutsol said.

"Euro 2012 will promote sex tourism in Ukraine, and demean women here even more. In Europe, Ukrainian women have the unfortunate reputation as beautiful, cheap sex dolls, and when the fans get here that image will only be reinforced," she said.

The anti-human trafficking NGO La Strada considers Ukraine a prime source of European prostitutes. A weak economy and even poorer work opportunities for women, rather than Ukrainian social tradition, are the main reasons why, officials said.

"Women in Ukraine do not have a very high status. There is huge gender-related discrimination and the society places big pressure on a woman to be a housewife and a mother and nothing else. So there are few opportunities for women who want or need to work," said Mariana Yevtsukova, a La Strada spokeswoman.

As many as 90 per cent of Ukrainian women employed in the sex industry have children, and 80 per cent of them have been victims of domestic violence.

More than 40 per cent of female Ukrainian sex industry workers live with a man unable -- usually because of alcoholism or unemployment -- to support the household himself, according to La Strada data.

"It is true many Ukrainian women work in Europe's sex industries, but it's not because our society allows a woman to wear risque clothes," Yevtsukova said. "No woman wants to be a prostitute. Many women see they have no alternative."

Singer-songwriter Alena Vinnitskaya, a founding member of Nu Virgos, the most popular girl band in the former Soviet Union, and as a soloist one of Ukraine's best-known pop performers, predicted arriving football fans might well be shocked by the amount of skin left uncovered by Ukrainian women during the country's sometimes steaming hot summer months.

"There absolutely is a tradition celebrating female beauty in our country, it is part of our history and it's not something we can forsake because in Europe or somewhere else women look differently. Perhaps sometimes the way we dress seems provocative to foreign visitors, but that is by their standards, not ours," Vinnitskaya said.

"I think Euro 2012 is a good thing for our country, it will allow outsiders to see the bad with the good, for instance our terrible roads and our beautiful countryside," she said. "We have few air conditioners."

"But when the fans look at us Ukrainian women, I am afraid they may not see past the pretty exterior," Vinnitskaya said. "Our country is poor and life is difficult for many, and often for the women it is worse."

Euro 2012 will see more of Femen's trademark topless demonstrations, Gustol said.

"We are not going to sit with our hands folded and let our country become Europe's bordello," she said. "Nor are we going to stop being pretty."

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Reply #1 posted 06/05/12 2:49pm

JoeTyler

FEMEN is considered a joke even in its OWN country

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ical_image

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Reply #2 posted 06/05/12 2:50pm

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ukraine sounds interesting but the football puts me off. i hate sports but i like naked woman

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Reply #3 posted 06/05/12 2:51pm

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JoeTyler said:

FEMEN is considered a joke even in its OWN country

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ical_image

I made this thread for dJJ.

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Reply #4 posted 06/05/12 2:52pm

JoeTyler

sextonseven said:

JoeTyler said:

FEMEN is considered a joke even in its OWN country

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ical_image

I made this thread for dJJ.

?

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Reply #5 posted 06/05/12 2:53pm

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sextonseven said:

"Euro 2012 will promote sex tourism in Ukraine, and demean women here even more. In Europe, Ukrainian women have the unfortunate reputation as beautiful, cheap sex dolls, and when the fans get here that image will only be reinforced," she said.

uh...

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Reply #6 posted 06/05/12 2:54pm

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JoeTyler said:

FEMEN is considered a joke even in its OWN country

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ical_image

tasteless sounds good to me

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Reply #7 posted 06/05/12 2:55pm

JoeTyler

why do FEMEN assume that the world sees Ukraine as a paradise for prostitution? eek

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Reply #8 posted 06/05/12 2:58pm

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JoeTyler said:

sextonseven said:

I made this thread for dJJ.

?

You have to read our conversation in the photowhore thread. She said she needed a place to re-establish her identity as the org feminist.

I think she has gone off to bed now though.

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Reply #9 posted 06/05/12 3:01pm

JoeTyler

sextonseven said:

JoeTyler said:

?

You have to read our conversation in the photowhore thread. She said she needed a place to re-establish her identity as the org feminist.

I think she has gone off to bed now though.

popcorn

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Reply #10 posted 06/05/12 3:03pm

Timmy84

So lemme get this straight...

They're protesting topless to protest against prostitution?

Not only that but they're protesting it as if Ukraine allows that shit, which I don't think they don't, there's only a few places where it's allowed.

Makes no sense and this sounds more like a P&R posting... you don't think much when you get into that kind of thing anyway, just screaming and making a bunch of noise and making no sense.

This is a head scratcher and I'm looking at this pic and I'm also wondering "is it a joke?"

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Reply #11 posted 06/05/12 3:05pm

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Timmy84 said:

So lemme get this straight...

They're protesting topless to protest against prostitution?

Not only that but they're protesting it as if Ukraine allows that shit, which I don't think they don't, there's only a few places where it's allowed.

Makes no sense and this sounds more like a P&R posting... you don't think much when you get into that kind of thing anyway, just screaming and making a bunch of noise and making no sense.

This is a head scratcher and I'm looking at this pic and I'm also wondering "is it a joke?"

i like topless advertising. we need more of it

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Reply #12 posted 06/05/12 3:06pm

Timmy84

unique said:

Timmy84 said:

So lemme get this straight...

They're protesting topless to protest against prostitution?

Not only that but they're protesting it as if Ukraine allows that shit, which I don't think they don't, there's only a few places where it's allowed.

Makes no sense and this sounds more like a P&R posting... you don't think much when you get into that kind of thing anyway, just screaming and making a bunch of noise and making no sense.

This is a head scratcher and I'm looking at this pic and I'm also wondering "is it a joke?"

i like topless advertising. we need more of it

lol

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Reply #13 posted 06/05/12 3:06pm

JoeTyler

JoeTyler said:

sextonseven said:

You have to read our conversation in the photowhore thread. She said she needed a place to re-establish her identity as the org feminist.

I think she has gone off to bed now though.

popcorn

uh, disappointing chat about drooling, haircuts and perverts confuse lol

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Reply #14 posted 06/05/12 3:10pm

JoeTyler

double post, silly org

[Edited 6/5/12 15:10pm]

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Reply #15 posted 06/05/12 3:10pm

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sounds like they are against any tourism at all because men won't be able to help but see them as whores?

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Reply #16 posted 06/05/12 3:11pm

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JoeTyler said:

JoeTyler said:

popcorn

uh, disappointing chat about drooling, haircuts and perverts confuse lol

Sorry, I meant you have to read our chat to get the reference, not because it was salacious. lol

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Reply #17 posted 06/05/12 3:12pm

JoeTyler

NDRU said:

sounds like they are against any tourism at all because men won't be able to help but see them as whores?

more like they see soccer male fans as whore-addicts who think east europe is full of cheap whores

whatever shrug

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Reply #18 posted 06/05/12 3:12pm

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I haplessly clicked the link in her sig just as my 11 year old son came into the room. He copped an eyeful and he heard his mother say "oopsies" lol
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Reply #19 posted 06/05/12 3:13pm

JoeTyler

sextonseven said:

JoeTyler said:

uh, disappointing chat about drooling, haircuts and perverts confuse lol

Sorry, I meant you have to read our chat to get the reference, not because it was salacious. lol

lol lol

in other words, they kind of guy FEMEN is against?

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Reply #20 posted 06/05/12 3:17pm

dJJ

sextonseven said:

JoeTyler said:

?

You have to read our conversation in the photowhore thread. She said she needed a place to re-establish her identity as the org feminist.

I think she has gone off to bed now though.

It worked.

And yes I do want to go to bed.

99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%.
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Reply #21 posted 06/05/12 3:18pm

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I never knew I could go to Ukraine for cheap hookers until I read this thread! jet
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Reply #22 posted 06/05/12 3:19pm

dJJ

JoeTyler said:

FEMEN is considered a joke even in its OWN country

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ical_image

By men who still don't get it.

Yes, these men still refuse to really listen and understand why it's time they change their attitudes and behavior towards women.

The subjects these girls try to draw attention to is no joke at all.

99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%.
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Reply #23 posted 06/05/12 3:20pm

dJJ

unique said:

ukraine sounds interesting but the football puts me off. i hate sports but i like naked woman

rolleyes

One-way ticket to Siberia for you

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Reply #24 posted 06/05/12 3:20pm

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dJJ said:

JoeTyler said:

FEMEN is considered a joke even in its OWN country

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ical_image

By men who still don't get it.

Yes, these men still refuse to really listen and understand why it's time they change their attitudes and behavior towards women.

The subjects these girls try to draw attention to is no joke at all.

That's the dJJ I know.

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Reply #25 posted 06/05/12 3:22pm

dJJ

JoeTyler said:

why do FEMEN assume that the world sees Ukraine as a paradise for prostitution? eek

Is this for real?

Or are you really not aware of the women trafficing from Eastern-European countries to the West?

99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%.
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Reply #26 posted 06/05/12 3:27pm

dJJ

Timmy84 said:

So lemme get this straight...

They're protesting topless to protest against prostitution?

Not only that but they're protesting it as if Ukraine allows that shit, which I don't think they don't, there's only a few places where it's allowed.

Makes no sense and this sounds more like a P&R posting... you don't think much when you get into that kind of thing anyway, just screaming and making a bunch of noise and making no sense.

This is a head scratcher and I'm looking at this pic and I'm also wondering "is it a joke?"

WoW.

You really have never seen or heard about Eastern European women 'dancing' in US bars?

And do you think the sweet docile blond Eastern-European girls that married the old tiranic ugly grandpa in your block because that's what she really wanted to? Those marriage-agencies are not what they look like.

99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%.
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Reply #27 posted 06/05/12 3:28pm

dJJ

unique said:

Timmy84 said:

So lemme get this straight...

They're protesting topless to protest against prostitution?

Not only that but they're protesting it as if Ukraine allows that shit, which I don't think they don't, there's only a few places where it's allowed.

Makes no sense and this sounds more like a P&R posting... you don't think much when you get into that kind of thing anyway, just screaming and making a bunch of noise and making no sense.

This is a head scratcher and I'm looking at this pic and I'm also wondering "is it a joke?"

i like topless advertising. we need more of it

Siberian nationality it is for you.

99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%.
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Reply #28 posted 06/05/12 3:29pm

dJJ

NDRU said:

sounds like they are against any tourism at all because men won't be able to help but see them as whores?

Are you acting ignorant because it's fun to provoke DJJ, or is this really how you guys think about it?

99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%.
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Reply #29 posted 06/05/12 3:32pm

dJJ

ZombieKitten said:

I haplessly clicked the link in her sig just as my 11 year old son came into the room. He copped an eyeful and he heard his mother say "oopsies" lol

falloff

How did he react when you told him you were reading up on feminism in Eastern Europe and that is really wasn't what it looked like?

99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%.
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