Oh my God Paintedlady, you are freakin hilarious! | |
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Yes, I agree with all of this. This is good advice. Good luck to you | |
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I am not trolling you, or attacking you, its not that serious really. You take strong defense because you hate hearing criticism from anyone. Sorry but I am not here to stroke your ego. I thought you could handle straight talk.
You came here fussing about your mom. You say she ignores your needs and is self-centered. She will not change. You can only change yourself and you must keep trying. To make sure the change is a positive one in the right direction, you should really research the info in the orgnote I told you about regarding Rori Raye and her book. But don't worry... I will NEVER try to reach out to you again, ever.
I hope my posts do help others that may have an issue with their family member.
If anyone sees this thread and is in a bad relationship with a family member, I hope this post helps them. A relationship with your mother is a precious one, and always worth every avenue to help heal it if it is dysfunctional. | |
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Awww.... this is sweet. Very good advice. SeventeenDayze, you shouldn't take offense. Paintedlady is just trying to help My ex-husband gave me the same advice about my mother (who was just like yours) but at the time I didn't want to hear it. When I quit pointing the finger at her and tried to see things through her eyes, when I just accepted her, we became friends. And now she's too old to chase dick, thank God, and all she has is me and we have a great relationship. Hope you and your mom work it out too | |
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I thank God my mom has gotten over her dick-chasing ways. Heffa was on a MISSION! I love her skank ass though.
I had to learn that because I am just like her, and I learned that it is not such a bad thing because I had to develope a change in my perspective and learn to appreciate her and the woman she is. People aren't perfect, and I had to learn to see my mom as a person whose faults are a part of her, and that I can accept and get past them in order to love her fully. This thread speaks to me because it is an issue close to my heart. This is why I posted all these thoughts.
My mom is only getting older, and her time on this earth will pass, and I had to make sure that my relationship with her was one that wouldn't be filled with shoulddas, coulddas and what ifs.
I think of good friends here on the org who have lost their mothers and use that as a reminder to keep at what I do to honor them, their memories, their mothers and my precious momma WHILE she is here.
I hope Seventeendayze recieves the wisdom and blessings to have an awesome relationship with her mom also... it is in her power to change it and she can do it. | |
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Sweet | |
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I hope gives you a chance to feel at peace with yourself at first, and then those things will come along and be great for you, when you're ready and up for the challenge Cause these unresolved issues will not mask over the feelings, the patterns will only repeat themselves and the way you were taught to love from your mom may have characteristics you may not realize you're passing down later on down the road, so it's important to come to terms with that. I'm not saying you're like her, but her behaviour is familiar to you and ingrained in your subconscious and it may be a good time to talk it out with a counsellor and work towards emotional self-care. | |
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Hey there, sorry but she trolls me, not matter what I post. It's creepy and weird. Everyone else's advice I really take into consideration...thanks for your feedback Trolls be gone! | |
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Scientifically speaking, | |
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Ha thanks for adding that perspective to the whole matter
Still have two weeks to go before this trip and I have no idea if she's going to do it or not. I think I'm better off not even thinking about it. I haven't spoken to her since I saw the email with the flight info. I just feel like that's the worse thing a parent can do to invalidate a child, grown or not. She always puts men ahead of the family, so I'm not surprised anymore. Doesn't mean it doesn't hurt though, makes the world feel cold and small as hell... Trolls be gone! | |
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it's not... not too often.. Hag. Muse. Web Goddess. Taurean. Tree Hugger. Poet. Professional Nerd. Geek.
"Resistance is futile." "All shall love me and despair!" | |
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My birthday was recently and she didn't call, email or send a card at all. I don't know if she got on that flight to meet that stranger this weekend but I really don't want to talk to her anymore. I feel stabbed in the heart. Are some parents just incompetent or incapable of real love? Trolls be gone! | |
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...or merely too self-absorbed to realize what they're NOT doing?
By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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I guess that might be true With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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Putting all your mom's business out there in a mass email is not "being the better person." It's the act of a someone who learned passive/aggressive behavior at the feet of a master.
[Edited 5/14/12 13:12pm] We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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I was dropping hints off and on that perhaps the guy should visit her and I said it in a respectful way. Yes, I can say that I have tried to be the better person in situations where, for example, she wants to call and complain for HOURS about ex-husband number three and I listen to her. Instead of saying, "I told you so"...which is what most would do.
She was basically ignoring rational, calm discussion basically begging her not to put her life at risk getting on a plane to meet a man she doesn't know and who neither myself nor my sister had ANY information about at all. Now, what would I have been criticized for had I not told anyone, she goes on the trip, and comes up missing?
I hope you never have to deal with this in your life. Not as easy as it seems....it's horrible and it's the worst kind of betrayal you can imagine that you mother tells you she can't come to your city because she doesn't have time/money but then she PAYS for a ticket to go meet a stranger.....oh well. Trolls be gone! | |
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Sounds like she's self-absorbed with her own life now. | |
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Yeah, I don't know what to do anymore, so I just don't call anymore at this point. I try to make friends but it's hard because I feel like the closest bonds in my life that I should have should be family first above "friends" but when you don't have that, then what?
I was making a friend recently, or so I thought and then suddenly things got a bit strange. The first (and only) time I went to her apartment is myseteriously when she started bringing up stuff related to gay topics. She showed me some Kevin Hart skit about gay dudes and then showed me a video of some PBS series where a gay man hit on a straight man and got into a confrontation. For me, the writing was on the wall....so I don't communicate with her anymore.
Why is it so tough making friends when you're over 30?
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I hope things get better with you and your mother but to answer your question............F*ck no ! Rest in Peace Bettie Boo. See u soon. | |
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Hey Joey, thanks. I just wrote her a letter a few minutes ago and dropped it off in the mailbox. I figured writing a letter would be better than a phone call or email. I just asked her why things have fallen apart and let her know that I think she should get counseling. That's not all that I said but it's pretty much in a nutshell. I just asked why she put a stranger above her own family. I also said at the end of the letter that it's going to be a while before she hears from me again because I need time to heal. Trolls be gone! | |
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What's with the gay topics?
Do you think she was implying that you're gay? By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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No, I think she was suggesting that SHE is the one who is gay but closeted. One time I was talking about some basketball player I thought was cute and joked about how it was the only reason I watched sports when I was a school girl. She made a comment after that which made me think she's pretty much a manhater...She knows I'm not gay but apparently she's most likely in the closet herself. Trolls be gone! | |
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Or she could be a straight girl with lots of gay friends too or gets/enjoys gay humor? I don't necessarily think it means she's a lesbian though it could be true as well. I do think it's a little naive to assume she was making a move by watching that, maybe that's just what she likes to talk about.
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It's not just those things but I had suspicions and other little red flags but they were most certainly confirmed after a while. The anger she has towards men and always talking about gay stuff, just put two and two together...
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Sounds like repressed anger coming out through some sort of fetish now that you mention it
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I talked to my sister the other day and she told me that even though my mom said she wasn't going to take that trip, that she went anyway. My mom and sis live together and my sister told me that basically my mom left the light on in her room, left her car parked out front and went out of town and didn't say she was leaving. My sister then told me that my mom got angry that my sister didn't call her to wish her a happy mother's day that weekend. Seriously? My sister who is normally "tough as nails" sounded really hurt as she was telling me about it. She was upset because my nephew was home alone and happened to get sick while she was at work and my mom left without telling anyone. We didn't have this guy's information, name, address, nothing...my mom made it back safe but neither my sister nor myself are speaking to my mother right now. It's like she could give a damn about our feelings but expects us to drop everything and support her when she feels like it, regardless of how she treats us. I wrote her a letter and mailed it to her last week before I even found out she took the trip after all. She told us she wasn't going and then pulled that stunt anyway. Oh well, she wants to choose a stranger over family that's what she'll be left with. I'm sick of it already... Trolls be gone! | |
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Ouch! I think leaving contact info is the least she could have done, even if going was her personal choice in the end. | |
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Tell me about it. I really think on some level she resents being a mother to me and my sister and this is her way of kind of "paying us back"...just seems like she blames us for all of her problems for some reason. Oh well, she didn't have to be a mother if she didn't want to.
I think taking a break from communicating with her for a while will be healthy and help me not to be bitter... Trolls be gone! | |
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