Chile, all you had to do was roll your eyes at her so hard that the people in the next cubes could feel it and walked off without saying a word. People like that who make themselves look stupid, you have to let them look stupid because they are unaware that they are suffering from that disease called "Incredibly Stupid, Judgemental and Closed Minded". Them type of religious folks are everywhere, the more folks be all up in your face saying "praise the Lord" and "God doesn't say to do this, he says to do that", "you need to skip paying your rent and light bill and give that money to God in order to get blessed" and "if you don't go to bible study then how can you call yourself a Christian?", are the VERY ONES doing all the dirt behind closed doors. You better believe it. If anything, I stay far far far away from these type of folks because their "religious" fascade only pulls my coat tail in letting me know that they got some fucked up shit going on in the background. They are full of shit and toxic.

Timmy84 said:

NDRU said:

Man the judgement!

Why do so many religious people not get that they are not the ones who decide who goes to heaven and who does not?

Because they think they KNOW the Lord by reading the Bible - and misintrepreting what they think he says not even realizing men wrote it, not God himself.

Actually, that's NOT true, its the "Christians" that listen to stupid hate mongering preachers and NOT read their bibles is when you get people that are judgemental, usually newbies are like that also.

The bible tells you over and over not to judge others and to show love for your fellow man, but some of these ignorant bible thumpers never even open thier bibles, they just memorize a few scriptures to project their hatred and call it being "Godly" or "holy" because they believe the hate filled speeches their nut job pastors teach them....

Its like the same crap Eddie Long's followers believe. People NEED to read their bibles, most do NOT. Sad.

Yeah, that heffa a Shtyra's office needs to be reported to HR and Shyra needs to have no further convos wit that nutjob.

We are not God and none of us knows what He will do.

missfee said:

Chile, all you had to do was roll your eyes at her so hard that the people in the next cubes could feel it and walked off without saying a word. People like that who make themselves look stupid, you have to let them look stupid because they are unaware that they are suffering from that disease called "Incredibly Stupid, Judgemental and Closed Minded". Them type of religious folks are everywhere, the more folks be all up in your face saying "praise the Lord" and "God doesn't say to do this, he says to do that", "you need to skip paying your rent and light bill and give that money to God in order to get blessed" and "if you don't go to bible study then how can you call yourself a Christian?", are the VERY ONES doing all the dirt behind closed doors. You better believe it. If anything, I stay far far far away from these type of folks because their "religious" fascade only pulls my coat tail in letting me know that they got some fucked up shit going on in the background. They are full of shit and toxic.

But here's the thing.. these people are so fucked up they dont even know they look stupid.. to them they are right and there is NO disscussing any other point of view.. It doesnt do any good to argue.. believe me, Ive tried!

paintedlady said:

Timmy84 said:

Because they think they KNOW the Lord by reading the Bible - and misintrepreting what they think he says not even realizing men wrote it, not God himself.

Actually, that's NOT true, its the "Christians" that listen to stupid hate mongering preachers and NOT read their bibles is when you get people that are judgemental, usually newbies are like that also.

The bible tells you over and over not to judge others and to show love for your fellow man, but some of these ignorant bible thumpers never even open thier bibles, they just memorize a few scriptures to project their hatred and call it being "Godly" or "holy" because they believe the hate filled speeches their nut job pastors teach them....

Its like the same crap Eddie Long's followers believe. People NEED to read their bibles, most do NOT. Sad.

Yeah, that heffa a Shtyra's office needs to be reported to HR and Shyra needs to have no further convos wit that nutjob.

We are not God and none of us knows what He will do.

Good point. Yeah you're right about that.

paintedlady said:

Timmy84 said:

Because they think they KNOW the Lord by reading the Bible - and misintrepreting what they think he says not even realizing men wrote it, not God himself.

Actually, that's NOT true, its the "Christians" that listen to stupid hate mongering preachers and NOT read their bibles is when you get people that are judgemental, usually newbies are like that also.

The bible tells you over and over not to judge others and to show love for your fellow man, but some of these ignorant bible thumpers never even open thier bibles, they just memorize a few scriptures to project their hatred and call it being "Godly" or "holy" because they believe the hate filled speeches their nut job pastors teach them....

Its like the same crap Eddie Long's followers believe. People NEED to read their bibles, most do NOT. Sad.

Yeah, that heffa a Shtyra's office needs to be reported to HR and Shyra needs to have no further convos wit that nutjob.

We are not God and none of us knows what He will do.

You better Preach! Newbies are just as annoying as the old head fanaticals. I remember at my first professional job, one of my co-workers who was about 7 years older than me had just gotten "saved" and so every other statement out her mouth was the "the Lord this, the Lord that". She told me that she took all her secular music and threw it in the trash....IN THE TRASH! So you took your whole CD collection of R&B music and whatever and just threw it all in the trash? Really tho? Was it that serious? Umm no. Listening to secular music doesn't make you "unholy" or "evil" . I would listen to my favorite cd's and play it low on my computer or with my headphones in and she would be listening to her Pastor's sermons on cd that she purchased at her church. So do you know that after a few months she started asking to borrow my cd's? Yes really.

missfee said:

paintedlady said:

Actually, that's NOT true, its the "Christians" that listen to stupid hate mongering preachers and NOT read their bibles is when you get people that are judgemental, usually newbies are like that also.

The bible tells you over and over not to judge others and to show love for your fellow man, but some of these ignorant bible thumpers never even open thier bibles, they just memorize a few scriptures to project their hatred and call it being "Godly" or "holy" because they believe the hate filled speeches their nut job pastors teach them....

Its like the same crap Eddie Long's followers believe. People NEED to read their bibles, most do NOT. Sad.

Yeah, that heffa a Shtyra's office needs to be reported to HR and Shyra needs to have no further convos wit that nutjob.

We are not God and none of us knows what He will do.

You better Preach! Newbies are just as annoying as the old head fanaticals. I remember at my first professional job, one of my co-workers who was about 7 years older than me had just gotten "saved" and so every other statement out her mouth was the "the Lord this, the Lord that". She told me that she took all her secular music and threw it in the trash....IN THE TRASH! So you took your whole CD collection of R&B music and whatever and just threw it all in the trash? Really tho? Was it that serious? Umm no. Listening to secular music doesn't make you "unholy" or "evil" . I would listen to my favorite cd's and play it low on my computer or with my headphones in and she would be listening to her Pastor's sermons on cd that she purchased at her church. So do you know that after a few months she started asking to borrow my cd's? Yes really.

Wow, talk about a loss of brain cells... that's just like people who follow the man rather than HIM.

missfee said:

paintedlady said:

Actually, that's NOT true, its the "Christians" that listen to stupid hate mongering preachers and NOT read their bibles is when you get people that are judgemental, usually newbies are like that also.

The bible tells you over and over not to judge others and to show love for your fellow man, but some of these ignorant bible thumpers never even open thier bibles, they just memorize a few scriptures to project their hatred and call it being "Godly" or "holy" because they believe the hate filled speeches their nut job pastors teach them....

Its like the same crap Eddie Long's followers believe. People NEED to read their bibles, most do NOT. Sad.

Yeah, that heffa a Shtyra's office needs to be reported to HR and Shyra needs to have no further convos wit that nutjob.

We are not God and none of us knows what He will do.

You better Preach! Newbies are just as annoying as the old head fanaticals. I remember at my first professional job, one of my co-workers who was about 7 years older than me had just gotten "saved" and so every other statement out her mouth was the "the Lord this, the Lord that". She told me that she took all her secular music and threw it in the trash....IN THE TRASH! So you took your whole CD collection of R&B music and whatever and just threw it all in the trash? Really tho? Was it that serious? Umm no. Listening to secular music doesn't make you "unholy" or "evil" . I would listen to my favorite cd's and play it low on my computer or with my headphones in and she would be listening to her Pastor's sermons on cd that she purchased at her church. So do you know that after a few months she started asking to borrow my cd's? Yes really.

tinaz said:

missfee said:

Chile, all you had to do was roll your eyes at her so hard that the people in the next cubes could feel it and walked off without saying a word. People like that who make themselves look stupid, you have to let them look stupid because they are unaware that they are suffering from that disease called "Incredibly Stupid, Judgemental and Closed Minded". Them type of religious folks are everywhere, the more folks be all up in your face saying "praise the Lord" and "God doesn't say to do this, he says to do that", "you need to skip paying your rent and light bill and give that money to God in order to get blessed" and "if you don't go to bible study then how can you call yourself a Christian?", are the VERY ONES doing all the dirt behind closed doors. You better believe it. If anything, I stay far far far away from these type of folks because their "religious" fascade only pulls my coat tail in letting me know that they got some fucked up shit going on in the background. They are full of shit and toxic.

But here's the thing.. these people are so fucked up they dont even know they look stupid.. to them they are right and there is NO disscussing any other point of view.. It doesnt do any good to argue.. believe me, Ive tried!

Exactly!!! because they believe the rantings of their snake-oil sales men preachers.

They will throw the ONE scripture they know at you with a ferver like their very life depended on that opinion.

It is not a good idea to go at it with a nutjob that needs to believe what they do because they need validation of their miserable existence. Because to actually repent and change their lives is too hard so they believe their snake-oil preachers in order to justify living the lives they do.

You will not make that person believe the truth because they need that lie to make them feel good about their situation.

paintedlady said:

tinaz said:

But here's the thing.. these people are so fucked up they dont even know they look stupid.. to them they are right and there is NO disscussing any other point of view.. It doesnt do any good to argue.. believe me, Ive tried!

Exactly!!! because they believe the rantings of their snake-oil sales men preachers.

They will throw the ONE scripture they know at you with a ferver like their very life depended on that opinion.

It is not a good idea to go at it with a nutjob that needs to believe what they do because they need validation of their miserable existence. Because to actually repent and change their lives is too hard so they believe their snake-oil preachers in order to justify living the lives they do.

You will not make that person believe the truth because they need that lie to make them feel good about their situation.

If a person keeps on throwing a scripture at you and then say some other shit, you KNOW they're faking.

imago said:

paintedlady said:

tinaz said:

But here's the thing.. these people are so fucked up they dont even know they look stupid.. to them they are right and there is NO disscussing any other point of view.. It doesnt do any good to argue.. believe me, Ive tried!

Exactly!!! because they believe the rantings of their snake-oil sales men preachers.

They will throw the ONE scripture they know at you with a ferver like their very life depended on that opinion.

It is not a good idea to go at it with a nutjob that needs to believe what they do because they need validation of their miserable existence. Because to actually repent and change their lives is too hard so they believe their snake-oil preachers in order to justify living the lives they do.

You will not make that person believe the truth because they need that lie to make them feel good about their situation.

YESSSS!!!!

tinaz said:

missfee said:

You better Preach! Newbies are just as annoying as the old head fanaticals. I remember at my first professional job, one of my co-workers who was about 7 years older than me had just gotten "saved" and so every other statement out her mouth was the "the Lord this, the Lord that". She told me that she took all her secular music and threw it in the trash....IN THE TRASH! So you took your whole CD collection of R&B music and whatever and just threw it all in the trash? Really tho? Was it that serious? Umm no. Listening to secular music doesn't make you "unholy" or "evil" . I would listen to my favorite cd's and play it low on my computer or with my headphones in and she would be listening to her Pastor's sermons on cd that she purchased at her church. So do you know that after a few months she started asking to borrow my cd's? Yes really.

I did that too... yup, I destroyed my ENTIRE Prince collection... even a white vinyl record and two purple colored records and tons of posters and shredded all my Prince T-shirts and tourbooks .... yeah, shut up... I was a newbie OK! I even tossed out my BC pills and got pregnant. I was a total dumbass when I first got saved.

Timmy84 said:

Yup. It's like "follow the asshole and everyone goes in".

!!!

paintedlady said:

tinaz said:

I did that too... yup, I destroyed my ENTIRE Prince collection... even a white vinyl record and two purple colored records and tons of posters and shredded all my Prince T-shirts and tourbooks .... yeah, shut up... I was a newbie OK! I even tossed out my BC pills and got pregnant. I was a total dumbass when I first got saved.

paintedlady said:

tinaz said:

I did that too... yup, I destroyed my ENTIRE Prince collection... even a white vinyl record and two purple colored records and tons of posters and shredded all my Prince T-shirts and tourbooks .... yeah, shut up... I was a newbie OK! I even tossed out my BC pills and got pregnant. I was a total dumbass when I first got saved.

Im sorrry but...

one more...

tinaz said:

paintedlady said:

I did that too... yup, I destroyed my ENTIRE Prince collection... even a white vinyl record and two purple colored records and tons of posters and shredded all my Prince T-shirts and tourbooks .... yeah, shut up... I was a newbie OK! I even tossed out my BC pills and got pregnant. I was a total dumbass when I first got saved.

Im sorrry but...

one more...

Yeah, I was that dumb!

2freaky4church1 said:

Go to hell, see if I care.

I say you should have a lunch-date in your break room with your gal-pal Johnart.

Oh yeah... and Fuck that sensless bitch.

paintedlady said:

Timmy84 said:

Because they think they KNOW the Lord by reading the Bible - and misintrepreting what they think he says not even realizing men wrote it, not God himself.

Actually, that's NOT true, its the "Christians" that listen to stupid hate mongering preachers and NOT read their bibles is when you get people that are judgemental, usually newbies are like that also.

The bible tells you over and over not to judge others and to show love for your fellow man, but some of these ignorant bible thumpers never even open thier bibles, they just memorize a few scriptures to project their hatred and call it being "Godly" or "holy" because they believe the hate filled speeches their nut job pastors teach them....

Its like the same crap Eddie Long's followers believe. People NEED to read their bibles, most do NOT. Sad.

Yeah, that heffa a Shtyra's office needs to be reported to HR and Shyra needs to have no further convos wit that nutjob.

We are not God and none of us knows what He will do.

That is what gets me. People will use religion to justify a prejudice, not realizing that the book actually says to NOT judge, lest ye be judged.

NDRU said:

paintedlady said:

Actually, that's NOT true, its the "Christians" that listen to stupid hate mongering preachers and NOT read their bibles is when you get people that are judgemental, usually newbies are like that also.

The bible tells you over and over not to judge others and to show love for your fellow man, but some of these ignorant bible thumpers never even open thier bibles, they just memorize a few scriptures to project their hatred and call it being "Godly" or "holy" because they believe the hate filled speeches their nut job pastors teach them....

Its like the same crap Eddie Long's followers believe. People NEED to read their bibles, most do NOT. Sad.

Yeah, that heffa a Shtyra's office needs to be reported to HR and Shyra needs to have no further convos wit that nutjob.

We are not God and none of us knows what He will do.

That is what gets me. People will use religion to justify a prejudice, not realizing that the book actually says to NOT judge, lest ye be judged.

Makes you wonder if they even follow God or even know his name. Clueless dummies that use religion for hatred.

You should have told her if she's ever eaten shellfish her ass is on a slope to hell too.

I never try to discuss certain things with people, especially sexual orientation. It's no use in trying to talk sense into a person if they think being gay is wrong. Same thing with a racist. Their mind is too far gone. It's better to just them be ignorant than waste your breath.

free2bfreeda said:

Shyra said:

I work with this woman who can get on my last nerve with her religious banter. She's a "Christian." She comes across as very judgemental and holier than thou which really irks me. I believe in God, and I try to respect others beliefs, but I hate it when these so called "saved" folk just start spewing bullshit. A person came into our office who was obviously homosexual. I didn't pay it much attention because I accept folk for who they are and try not to judge. After the person left, my coworker said, "Humph! You know he's not getting into heaven!" I asked her why she said that, and she said, "Because he's a sinner! The Lord does not condone homosexuality. He is wrong for choosing to live in sin! He's wrong for choosing that lifestyle!" I couldn't help it, and, "BITCH, PLEASE!" popped out of my mouth before I could stop myself. She looked at me all bug-eyed and said, "What??? Why did you say that???" I said, "Because the man is homosexual, he's going to hell? God will cast him to Hell to burn forever? I'm sorry, but I don't accept that. I believe that folk are born with their sexual identify in tact. I don't believe it is a choice. Here she goes, "OH, NO! THEY ARE SINNERS BEFORE GOD! THEY WILL BURN IN HELL. KEEP THEM AWAY FROM ME!" At that point I said, "OK. I see this conversation is not going anywhere sane, so let's just end it with the agreement to agree to disagree because I see I will never be able to hold a sensible conversation with you when it comes to this." Lawd, give me strength... She couldn't let it rest, "So you believe they are born that way?" I said, "Yes, I do." And the rant continued. I asked her why she believed that it's a choice, and why is it that children discover their homosexuality even before they become sexually active. She said, "Because people tell them they're Gay and they believe it!" I gave up. Your thoughts?

my take on this:

find out what your HR's company policy is on discriminatory statements such as hers. document the conversation, date and time it asap. what she said is very offensive. i mean (not assumming but,) what if you were homosexual? your co-workers statement can get her in to a lot of trouble.

(once you find out the HR info, maybe let her know that she is in violation of the company's anti-harassment policy, or just right out report her.)

imo her comment is as bad as saying "the bible says that noah's son was cursed, that is why blacks should have rightfully been enslaved. not!

according to :http://www.lawlink.nsw.go...Homosexual

Homosexual vilification is also against the anti-discrimination law. Vilification is defined as any public act that could encourage hatred, serious contempt, or severe ridicule towards people who are gay or lesbian, or who are thought to be gay or lesbian.

Public acts could include remarks in a newspaper or journal, in other publications, on radio or television or on the internet, including social networking sites. They could also include graffiti, posters, verbal abuse, speeches or statements, gestures and badges or clothing with slogans on them, as long as these are displayed, made or worn in public. The vilification law does not cover acts that are not public, for example abuse over a back fence that no-one else can hear.

What she said can get her fired or at the least reprimanded. Don't let it go and let her get away with it. I worked in a clothing retail store with a young girl once. She knew I liked to take the black clothing hangers home. She walked up to me one day with some black plastic hangers in her hand and said, "I take it you want these n***** hangers." She just thought that was the funniest shit to say and because I was white I was supposed to laugh too. HAHA...not.

Little did she know my children are biracial. And even if they weren't I would still feel the same. Like someone said, how about if you were gay? I reported her to the manager (he made me write the time, exact words, etc.) and she was fired. I can't work with ignorant people. And I refuse to if I have anything to say about it.

[Edited 4/18/12 22:35pm]

noimageatall said:

free2bfreeda said:

my take on this:

find out what your HR's company policy is on discriminatory statements such as hers. document the conversation, date and time it asap. what she said is very offensive. i mean (not assumming but,) what if you were homosexual? your co-workers statement can get her in to a lot of trouble.

(once you find out the HR info, maybe let her know that she is in violation of the company's anti-harassment policy, or just right out report her.)

imo her comment is as bad as saying "the bible says that noah's son was cursed, that is why blacks should have rightfully been enslaved. not!

according to :http://www.lawlink.nsw.go...Homosexual

Homosexual vilification is also against the anti-discrimination law. Vilification is defined as any public act that could encourage hatred, serious contempt, or severe ridicule towards people who are gay or lesbian, or who are thought to be gay or lesbian.

Public acts could include remarks in a newspaper or journal, in other publications, on radio or television or on the internet, including social networking sites. They could also include graffiti, posters, verbal abuse, speeches or statements, gestures and badges or clothing with slogans on them, as long as these are displayed, made or worn in public. The vilification law does not cover acts that are not public, for example abuse over a back fence that no-one else can hear.

What she said can get her fired or at the least reprimanded. Don't let it go and let her get away with it. I worked in a clothing retail store with a young girl once. She knew I liked to take the black clothing hangers home. She walked up to me one day with some black plastic hangers in her hand and said, "I take it you want these n***** hangers." She just thought that was the funniest shit to say and because I was white I was supposed to laugh too. HAHA...not.

Little did she know my children are biracial. And even if they weren't I would still feel the same. Like someone said, how about if you were gay? I reported her to the manager (he made me write the time, exact words, etc.) and she was fired. I can't work with ignorant people. And I refuse to if I have anything to say about it.

[Edited 4/18/12 22:35pm]

WTF??? How does that even pop into someones head.. for real...

Male or Female there is an office bitch in every work place

ThisOne said:

Male or Female there is an office bitch in every work place

You got that right.

RodeoSchro said:

Change the subject to politics, and quick!

KingBAD said:

BUT btw,

if you're like me and you just can't let it rest

for comical reasons, you should ask her how

she deals with her uncle paul and cousin darius

or whut her brother is up to these days

is she old enough to have a son/daughter?

Check this out, ya'll. One day I was at my desk in my office and in walked this drop-dead handsome, black as the ace-of-spades, (I'm very partial to dark men) braids down to his shoulders, immaculately dressed, sparkling white-toothed, gay or on the down-low, man accompanied by a young woman. I batted my eyes (ya'll know I'm lyin), and asked how I could help him. He said, "Is Mrs. Winters in her office?" Mrs. Winters is the pseudonym for my co-worker. I told him that she was at lunch, but that I would be happy to give her a message. He swished, "Oh! Just tell her that her son-in-law stopped by just to say hi!" I didn't bat an eye...

When "Mrs. Winters" came back to the office, I gave her the message. I asked her, "Um, is he married to one of your daughters?" She said that he was married to her oldest daughter. I couldn't help myself, "Oh really? How long have they been married? Do they have any kids?" She said, "Oh, they've been married for about a year, but she hasn't gotten pregnant yet, but they're trying real hard! We don't know what's taking so long!" I didn't say shit.

imago said:

This is my favorite thread title in ages!

turn the other cheek girl, lol.

paintedlady said:

tinaz said:

But here's the thing.. these people are so fucked up they dont even know they look stupid.. to them they are right and there is NO disscussing any other point of view.. It doesnt do any good to argue.. believe me, Ive tried!

Exactly!!! because they believe the rantings of their snake-oil sales men preachers.

They will throw the ONE scripture they know at you with a ferver like their very life depended on that opinion.

It is not a good idea to go at it with a nutjob that needs to believe what they do because they need validation of their miserable existence. Because to actually repent and change their lives is too hard so they believe their snake-oil preachers in order to justify living the lives they do.

You will not make that person believe the truth because they need that lie to make them feel good about their situation.

Nothing in this world is more irksome than a sanctimonious fanatic! I've never met one that wasn't hateful and intolerant.

We have one of these characters in our office. One day this person got together with a co-conspirator and the two of them actually cornered a gay coworker and tried to get him to join them in praying his gay away. I was furious with him because he wouldn't do anything about it!

Well, eventually they spread their venom to the wrong person and ended up being reprimanded because the person complained to management.

As for Shyra's coworker, I would have asked her when God hired her as a spokesperson and how much he was paying? Then I would report her to management.

[Edited 4/19/12 16:16pm]