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VIOLENT NATURE OK, so I've been watching these videos of wild dogs (painted wild dogs) and hyenas hunting and killing technqiques, and I am astounded at the efficiency with which the kill.
But mostly, I'm shocked by just how cruel nature actually is. I personally have always thought that the Universe is tipped towards pain and suffering, and that all life succumbs to it in one form or another regardless of how beautiful or pleasurable stretches of life are.
But humans have the luxury of dying in beds...surrounded by family. It dawned on me that most animals, aquatic or land...mammal, amphibian, or reptile....omnivore, herbivore, or carnivore meet their ends much more violently.
This is a truly disturbing video, so do not click unless you are able to handle violence, blood, and ....agonizing death.
NSFW (sort of)...VERY VIOLENT CONTENT
It reminds me of Perry Ferrell's words, "Of course this land is dangerous, all of god's animals are capably murderous... " | |
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Damn....talk about getting your ass eaten out.... | |
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i couldn't watch the whole thing [Edited 5/18/12 13:55pm] I want everybody 2 make it in2 PARADISE!!!!!!! | |
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banks said:
I'm glad I posted early, got first crack at that one... | |
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Sponsored by PeTA? | |
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PANDURITO said: Sponsored by PeTA? Of course not. PETA would never acknowledge that nature is violent or that animals are far worse to each other than humans are to animals. There's no money in an antelope being eaten by a lion. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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TOE DAT ASS UP!!! i am KING BAD!!!
you are NOT... STOP ME IF YOU HEARD THIS BEFORE... | |
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Hyenas will kill the shit out of a human, too. They don't play. | |
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All those things, seriously didn't occur to you before then? I figured that stuff out before I lost my front teeth.
This reminds me of some of the vids on YouTube of people feeding their pet snakes, and random jackasses flipping out in the comments saying that they would report the video and how inhumane it was and "Oh, the poor mouse", only to clusterfuck anybody that points out to them that it's not animal abuse so much as documenting a natural process on camera.
Animals kill and eat each other, period. And usually it's not a pretty or easy death.
But at least they do it for survival purposes strictly, which can't always be said for human beings... 비 | |
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When I call nature cruel, I'm not turning it into a moral judgement.
I'm merely pointing out how prevelent pain is in all of creation. I take pity on anything that suffers, but certain would never say a snake is evil for killing a rabbit.
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...Did you live next door to Wally and the Beav?
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YA THINK!!! i am KING BAD!!!
you are NOT... STOP ME IF YOU HEARD THIS BEFORE... | |
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I don't understand the reference. | |
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It doesn't happen all that often, but it does happen. And they'll follow you closely at night - which is creepy as all get out. | |
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The Spotted Hyena FAQ. Some, uhhh, interesting stuff in there.
http://wearesites.com/Personal/Hyenas/spotted_faq.php
Scientific name: Crocuta crocutaQ: What's the difference between a spotted hyena and any other hyena?
Q: They're related to dogs, right?
Q: But what on earth do they have in common with cats?
Q: Okay, so could a hyena cross with either a cat or a dog and produce offspring?
Those stories you read in places like the National Enquirer about cats breeding with rabbits or dogs and humans breeding with gods only know what and actually producing hybrid offspring are just that -- wild stories, invented for the ignorant and gullible who want to be titillated.
Q: How hard can a hyena bite, really?
However, Wendy Binder of UCLA did do a study on Dr. Frank's hyenas. According to Dr. Frank: "Unfortunately, Wendy's thesis presents her data in terms of force (Newtons) rather than pressure (psi). She measured forces as high as 4500 Newtons, but a quick search of the internet did not show me an easy way to convert this to a pressure measure. I assume that would involve dividing the force measure over a surface area; the unit conversation program that I found said that 4500 Newtons is equal to 1011 pound force. Perhaps if this were divided by the surface area of the tooth doing the biting??? I would guess that is less than 1/4 sq. in., so the force might be around 4000 psi???"
That should give you an idea how uncertain such measurements are, even in a laboratory setting. But suffice it to say you wouldn't want to get bitten by a spotted hyena. These figures may not apply to striped and brown hyenas, and definitely don't apply to aardwolves, whose jaws and teeth are so feeble that they can't even chew meat.
Q: Is it true that they're just scavengers?
Q: I've heard hyenas follow lions around and live off their kills.
Q: They must not get along very well together. Do they?
Q: Do hyenas have any predators, or natural enemies other than lions and humans? African wild dogs seem to detest spotted hyenas almost as much as lions do. If they catch one alone, especially near their dens or their kills, they'll mob and harass it, to the point of blood being drawn.
Q: Do they really laugh?
Q: How fast can they run?
Q: Will hyenas eat each other?
Q: Is it true that hyenas can change sexes?
Q: My God, why?
Q: You said the females are dominant on another page. Don't the males resent this?
Q: It sounds as if hyenas don't get along very well, even if they don't eat each other.
Q: Whoah! You said "adult hyena society." Surely the cubs don't fight?
Q: Doesn't the mother stop this?
Q: How long does she raise them?
Q: Do they mate for life, like wolves?
Q: Will hyenas eat people?
Q: Are there any zoos where I can go see hyenas?
The St. Louis Zoo in Missouri has a small clan of three female spotted hyenas in its River's Edge exhibit. So does Busch Gardens in Tampa, Florida, in its "Edge of Africa" exhibit.
Q: All this stuff has made me think about getting myself a pet hyena. Do you know where I can get one, and what they need in captivity?
Q: Do hyenas have any redeeming features at all? | |
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I'm finding this thread very fascinating! I love reading about all animals, but my favorites are top-of-the-food-chain predators.
For anyone who is going to misunderstand or miscomprehend the purpose of this thread, it's not to make any type of moral judgement or to seperate human behavior from animal behavior--I'm in the school that believes we're just animals. The purpose is just to show the shocking reality of nature in general.
I just saw a video of a wild dog killing a young kudu. Lawd hammercy.
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All you've got to do is watch or read the news for a couple weeks to know how violent the human animal is. | |
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i didn't see the part where people take them fro assholes because they always laughin about how they did some shit while the animal is layin there dyin i am KING BAD!!!
you are NOT... STOP ME IF YOU HEARD THIS BEFORE... | |
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Shit, all I need to do is tell a Thai woman she looks tan to discover how violent the human animal is. | |
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If you're shocked about hyenas, do you know about HONEY BADGERS? Honey badgers are some scary-ass mofos. I didn't know this until a while ago when my friend told me about them, and then my daughter had a reading comprehension passage on them, and then they were featured in "Wild Kratts" ... it was like "honey badger this, honey badger that" for quite a while. When my friend first asked me what do I think honey badgers are like, I said "don't know, I guess they eat honey and waddle around." Oh man, was I wrong! Lion cubs mimic the honey badger stripe so that when it's sleeping in the grass, larger predators like hyenas will think it's a honey badger and stay the f away! You google honey badger on YT and you'll see what I mean.
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Yes! Honey badgers are amazing.
If you really want to be grossed out though check out the youtube vidoes of giant centipedes eating mice or snakes. UGH | |
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I actually like big bugs. I've held vinageroons, millipedes and big ass cockroaches and the East Bay Vivarium.
http://www.eastbayvivarium.com/ | |
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Ugh, the whole exoskeleton, compound eyes thing freaks me out! By the way, how can people eat lobster? They're related to the pill bug - yuck! But honey badger don't care - he'll eat anything!
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"Leave It to Beaver"?
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Disney had a documentary film out last year called "big cats" or "wild cats" or something like that, where they are shown hunting down prey. A friend took her daughter to see it at El Capitan Theatre, it was in conjunction with the rerelease of "The Lion King." It was not what they were expecting. Btw, who else remembers "Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom" - I was basically in diapers watching animals dismembering and killing each other on that show.
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