johnart said:

chocolate1 said:

Hey love.

Hi Honey!

Top 3 reasons I am guessing my flawless queen was sent home tonight:

1) Cell phone use

2) Laptop use

3) Drugs

The fact Willam's lack of a drag family and despondent nature earlier in the day were played up leave me feeling confused as to why he was throwing up and why she was sent home. Why the mention of his thin waist? In February, Willam replied on Oh No They Didn't! to someone who said he met her at the Wrestling challenge and her reply was, "Oh I was on Adderall for days!" I'm guessing someone caught Willam snorting the adderall (hence his puking) and told Ru.

We won't find out until the reunion, officially.

WOW... shock and awe.

and i was sooooooo damn ready to be done with phi-phi. i had mentally packed her bags for her 30 seconds into the lip synch.

must say sharon was SURPRISINGLY good in the lip synch (... FA YA LIFE) and really deserved to stay.

their number was terrible. by far the worst. it was like phi phi was trying to sabotage sharon by being awful. given that she tried to talk latrice into doing the same...

chad and dida were... okay. dida's look has really evolved. say what you will about her, but she keeps evolving and listening to the judges.

i see her or chad in the top 3 aside sharon and latrice.

and give it up to latrice: she keeps proving she is worth being top 3.

i need "jesus is a biscuit" on a t-shirt.

and finally... willam. my money is on drugs of some sort. i bet they tested her, and she knew it was coming.

anxious to see how the drama plays out. the west coast feed is over in about 15 mins and she is doing a chat on logotv.com. gonna see what she says but i bet nothing gets answered tonight.

i look forward to phi phi being bottom two next week. sooooo ready to never see her again

Spinlight said:

Top 3 reasons I am guessing my flawless queen was sent home tonight:

1) Cell phone use

2) Laptop use

3) Drugs

The fact Willam's lack of a drag family and despondent nature earlier in the day were played up leave me feeling confused as to why he was throwing up and why she was sent home. Why the mention of his thin waist? In February, Willam replied on Oh No They Didn't! to someone who said he met her at the Wrestling challenge and her reply was, "Oh I was on Adderall for days!" I'm guessing someone caught Willam snorting the adderall (hence his puking) and told Ru.

We won't find out until the reunion, officially.

I say some sort of drug use also.
Mostly due to Chad making a comment to the effect of "If she keeps this up she can get us all in trouble." My guess being Willam was doing whatever openly in front of the other contestants. All I can come up with.

Ron thought anorexia (due to the mention of the 24" waist) but I don't see how that would get the others in any trouble. I'd imagine he'd been dismissed with an "We're concerned about your health" a-la Tyra on ANTM. But Ron's not alone, wiki says apparently a lot of folk think this.

One thing's for sure. It's pretty brilliant how they're keeping it hush hush til the reunion. buzz buzz buzzz.

Short of him scalping babies in the workroom to make his wigs, I can't see anything Willam was doing so despicable to justfy PhiPhi's (once again ) OVER THE MF TOP disgusted reactions. This bitch needed to go home already. She came on thinking she was gonna play the goody goody righteous one and that shit done flipped on her wonky-eyed ass.

cborgman said:

their number was terrible. by far the worst. it was like phi phi was trying to sabotage sharon by being awful. given that she tried to talk latrice into doing the same...

I think it's more genuine terrible-ness than sabotage. That bitch was thinkin she was on idol trynna do runs to that song and sounding like a cat getting fisted at that! "Im a singer." she said, with a straight face.

It's never her, you'll notice. It's someone else's voice was off. Or their timing. Or this or that... GO HOME!!

chad and dida were... okay. dida's look has really evolved. say what you will about her, but she keeps evolving and listening to the judges.

Dida indeed continues to improve.

I really felt for her when she was stuck between Screechin PhiPhi and Willam in the lounge.

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johnart said:

cborgman said:

their number was terrible. by far the worst. it was like phi phi was trying to sabotage sharon by being awful. given that she tried to talk latrice into doing the same...

I think it's more genuine terrible-ness than sabotage. That bitch was thinkin she was on idol trynna do runs to that song and sounding like a cat getting fisted at that! "Im a singer." she said, with a straight face.

It's never her, you'll notice. It's someone else's voice was off. Or their timing. Or this or that... GO HOME!!

chad and dida were... okay. dida's look has really evolved. say what you will about her, but she keeps evolving and listening to the judges.

Dida indeed continues to improve.

I really felt for her when she was stuck between Screechin PhiPhi and Willam in the lounge.

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yea... never fails this season...

if they start a challenge saying this is their speciality, they're gonna be awful in the challenge. madame and willam in the acting challenge were hideous.

and i fellt for dida too. phi phi is the msot annoying person this season.

granted, i normally really dont like song parodies, but...

willam's is kind of genius

cborgman said:

granted, i normally really dont like song parodies, but...

willam's is kind of genius

Awesome! The Vagina song was good too.
He is very good at this. Hardly "talentless".

And I do love me some Chick Fil A waffle fries.

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cborgman said:

granted, i normally really dont like song parodies, but...

willam's is kind of genius

Hahahaha, I fucking live for Willam.

Never understood how so many people didn't get his shtick. I'll miss her!!!!! I'll just be here weeping in the corner.

my first guess was drugs or hormones...

but now i am wondering if it was that he leaked something, and the vomiting and quiet was a result of having been confronted by the producers about it and told that they would let him finish the challenge and then be booted.

cause he was waaaaaay calm and accepting of it when it happened

cborgman said:

my first guess was drugs or hormones...

but now i am wondering if it was that he leaked something, and the vomiting and quiet was a result of having been confronted by the producers about it and told that they would let him finish the challenge and then be booted.

cause he was waaaaaay calm and accepting of it when it happened

Tene also mentioned on my fb maybe he banged a producer or something.
Entirely possible tho.

Lucian did say he slept with two of the goiillllzzz.

Maybe he banged that pretty photograper in the Dragazine challenge.

I still lean toward some sort of open drug use because I can't get Chad's comment out of my head.

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The whole group seemed to be very hands off with the Willam situation and the fact they didn't interrupt Phi Phi was gutted.

I've changed my mind from outside contact (cell phone, laptop) to either drugs or serious boozing. I've heard Willam showed up many times to tapings drunk. If Willam had a contract to not go out to clubs and shit and not get wasted off camera, that would reflect poorly on the rest of the cast.

My BF also said the anorexia/eating thing, John. I said there was no way in hell a clause on their contracts was "Eat your dinner" so no.

Willam's flat response to it doesn't surprise me given he pretty much knew Phi Phi was going to make a stink about it (cuz he was, given the Untucked). Seems to me that if Willam already knew his behavior off-camera was breaching his contract yet he continued to do it then he wouldn't be too shocked if he got kicked off. It's also possible they told him this earlier in the day and that's why he cried during the decision - he turns away from the camera but both he and Latrice are crying when they win.

Anyway, because Willam was part of my top 3 and definitely my favorite queen on the show, I'm heartbroken.

Willam is also not promoting his voting page for the All Stars season and is not going to be on the AlandCHUCK.TRAVEL cruise in December (which I am considering going onnnnn). Seems deep.

I think he knew when he went into the workroom and Latrice was like "You ok?".

Agree about the crying. Wonder if he even confided in Latrice at some point of what was about to happen, which might be the reason she was teary also. The irony of it all, finally forming a bond, leaving on a win etc...

All in all I think Willam's kick ass cause it's been clear to me how she went in to play a reality show "part" (the cocky bitch, no pun intended) and left in infamy. He played the game by his own rules the whole way IMO.

And that cruise...I'd love to be able to $wing that. Bet it's gonna be wild.

johnart said:

cborgman said:

my first guess was drugs or hormones...

but now i am wondering if it was that he leaked something, and the vomiting and quiet was a result of having been confronted by the producers about it and told that they would let him finish the challenge and then be booted.

cause he was waaaaaay calm and accepting of it when it happened

Tene also mentioned on my fb maybe he banged a producer or something.
Entirely possible tho.

Lucian did say he slept with two of the goiillllzzz.

Maybe he banged that pretty photograper in the Dragazine challenge.

I still lean toward some sort of open drug use because I can't get Chad's comment out of my head.

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Lucian is SO YUMMY!

Didn't Willam say something about getting married, in a previous episode? I assumed he was in a committed relationship. Lucian is HOT, but not sure Willam is a cheater...

I have to admit that I softened up to Willam in the past couple of episodes...I didn't expect him to go out like this. It sure is good for DRAMA and suspense, though!

johnart said:

I think he knew when he went into the workroom and Latrice was like "You ok?".

Agree about the crying. Wonder if he even confided in Latrice at some point of what was about to happen, which might be the reason she was teary also. The irony of it all, finally forming a bond, leaving on a win etc...

All in all I think Willam's kick ass cause it's been clear to me how she went in to play a reality show "part" (the cocky bitch, no pun intended) and left in infamy. He played the game by his own rules the whole way IMO.

the more the evidence floats to the top, the more i am convinced the producers got him before dy 1 night and day 2 morning, regardless.

explains the quiet and the vomiting.

but i am still betting it's leak, slept with a crew member, or drugs (in that order).

I will watch "Untucked" in the morning, but this my commentary:

• That was some shady mess about Willam!

• Mini-challenge: Ugh! Phi Phi…

• That debate was a HOT MESS! Latrice had the best line of the night. Phi Phi needed an ass-whooping for that mess!

• You know what Sharon? Some of us go out of our way to make sure that kids aren’t bullied…

• HATE Ru’s outfit this week.

• Lip-Synch: Team Latrice!

• No! I hate when they bring a queen back! (and if Willam broke the rules, why should he be considered to come back? )

I avoided the thread cuz I haven't seen it here on the west coast yet, but fuckin Dida Ritz's ass done spoiled me. I guess she went home and LSFYL against Latrice.

Well that was comin down to it then, I guess. Somebody PLEASE send Phi Phi home. AND SOMEONE PLEASE BRING BACK MY FLAWLESS QUEEN WILLAM.

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OK...

-Phi Phi need to go already. I knew she was gonna pull that "I was playin' a character" and I knew and respect that she was BUTTTTT if u gonna pull some risky un-pc type humor like that she needed to be clearing that shit with the girls (Dida and Latrice, specifically) in the workroom prior to the debate, being they were the punchline of that particular joke. You do that shit out of simple respect.

-I loved Dan Savage schoolin' everyone. I was disappointed that Dida didn't get fired up about a particular platform or choose to go with a character. She was just...there. I was surprised about her stance on politics and that there's no need for "makin' all that noise" (or however she phrased it) to get change made. For every quiet warrior of any sort of civil/woman right's movement, a few million went kicking and screamin' and had to endure so much for change. I guess I just thought this was common knowledge.

But still, I guess this might have to do with youth (like when Latrice said regarding the LSFYL that the Gladys song was old school and you needed some life-experience to get it across) I like her and I wish Phi Phi had gone and not her. I could even see Dida (provided she get her hair and body proportions correct as a good mentor on Drag U.

-I won't even lie...I was worried for Chad with her Pimptress persona. But she truly was the only to give INAGURATION MF REALNESS on that runway tonight. REPUBLICAN REALNESSSS no less. Werk!!!!

-I hope that Kenya is the one who gets to come back. Just watch some of her Youtube performances. She's the real deal. Very talented. I do think LaQueer could sneak in just perhaps.

I can't imagine it being anyone else. If Willam left due to breaking rules I wouldn't think he'd be eligable to come back.

cborgman said:

johnart said:

I think he knew when he went into the workroom and Latrice was like "You ok?".

Agree about the crying. Wonder if he even confided in Latrice at some point of what was about to happen, which might be the reason she was teary also. The irony of it all, finally forming a bond, leaving on a win etc...

All in all I think Willam's kick ass cause it's been clear to me how she went in to play a reality show "part" (the cocky bitch, no pun intended) and left in infamy. He played the game by his own rules the whole way IMO.

the more the evidence floats to the top, the more i am convinced the producers got him before dy 1 night and day 2 morning, regardless.

explains the quiet and the vomiting.

but i am still betting it's leak, slept with a crew member, or drugs (in that order).

I spoke with a friend, and he said he heard that exact same thing! But that he was on Heroin!

benjaminira said:

cborgman said:

the more the evidence floats to the top, the more i am convinced the producers got him before dy 1 night and day 2 morning, regardless.

explains the quiet and the vomiting.

but i am still betting it's leak, slept with a crew member, or drugs (in that order).

I spoke with a friend, and he said he heard that exact same thing! But that he was on Heroin!

I dunno if I buy the drugs thing.

Willam has said in damn near every interview he's done post-show that it was something he told the producers he'd done. If it were illicit drug use, I think he wouldn't come so clean. I do find it odd he mentioned his 24 inch waist - why mention his waist?