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Reply #30 posted 01/24/12 12:06pm

alphastreet

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not by my parents sad

not by my x-husband neutral

but yes... from my kids love2

and even my pup mushy

Aw, animals really are a great source of comfort. I felt that from my dog when he had her, and now from my cat. She's just so beautiful and I can act silly and baby her without being judged, or just sit with her in good company while on the phone or when trying to read.

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Reply #31 posted 01/24/12 12:11pm

ThisOne

alphastreet said:

ThisOne said:

not by my parents sad

not by my x-husband neutral

but yes... from my kids love2

and even my pup mushy

Aw, animals really are a great source of comfort. I felt that from my dog when he had her, and now from my cat. She's just so beautiful and I can act silly and baby her without being judged, or just sit with her in good company while on the phone or when trying to read.

pets are awesome, they are loyal and great company

i honestly feel loved by my pup, even tho she cant express it she shows it in so many ways mushy

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Reply #32 posted 01/24/12 12:20pm

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ThisOne said:

alphastreet said:

Aw, animals really are a great source of comfort. I felt that from my dog when he had her, and now from my cat. She's just so beautiful and I can act silly and baby her without being judged, or just sit with her in good company while on the phone or when trying to read.

pets are awesome, they are loyal and great company

i honestly feel loved by my pup, even tho she cant express it she shows it in so many ways mushy

thumbs up!

I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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Reply #33 posted 01/24/12 12:22pm

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Dave1992 said:

I don't know and I don't think so.

Two people tried to convince me they loved me unconditionally (one of them still does) and as much as I want to believe it, I can't.

I've been in this position too. As much as the person told me that they loved me, I knew deep down that he didn't love me as much as I loved him. What he was telling me wasn't matching up with the inconsiderate way he would treat me.

[Edited 1/24/12 4:25am]

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Reply #34 posted 01/24/12 12:26pm

alphastreet

My pup was a small dog, so she was always a baby.

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Reply #35 posted 01/24/12 12:27pm

alphastreet

missfee said:

Dave1992 said:

I don't know and I don't think so.

Two people tried to convince me they loved me unconditionally (one of them still does) and as much as I want to believe it, I can't.

I've been in this position too. As much as the person told me that they loved me, I knew deep down that he didn't love me as much as I loved him. What he was telling me wasn't matching up with the inconsiderate way he would treat me.

[Edited 1/24/12 4:25am]

Actions do speak louder than words, and a lot of things he did were inappropriate and he didn't have my best interests at heart. I was self sufficient and didn't ask him for anything, but he was extremely reckless and inconsiderate about everything.

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Reply #36 posted 01/24/12 12:40pm

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I asked my wife and she said it would be a good idea if I said 'yes'.
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Reply #37 posted 01/24/12 1:50pm

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missfee said:

Be honest.

As for me, I used think I was loved once by a guy who I once saw as my soul mate, but looking back and looking at the situation for what it was, that really wasn't true love. So I'm a virgin still to true love.

What about you?

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Reply #38 posted 01/24/12 2:11pm

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PurpleJedi said:

missfee said:

Be honest.

As for me, I used think I was loved once by a guy who I once saw as my soul mate, but looking back and looking at the situation for what it was, that really wasn't true love. So I'm a virgin still to true love.

What about you?

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Reply #39 posted 01/24/12 2:23pm

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I guess it depends on your definition of unconditional love.

You can love somebody but not be able to maintain a relationship.

If my man cheated on me, would I still love him?

What if he beat me? Is it a bad thing if the love goes away then?

And if you love someone and part ways because you can’t make a relationship work, what happens when you meet someone new? I don’t “have feelings” for any of my exes, but I wish them well and love them as people.

I think it’s often easier to love friends unconditionally than a partner. I have made huge mistakes in my life and I still have friends that love me. Perhaps that’s when friends become family.

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Reply #40 posted 01/24/12 2:52pm

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Reply #41 posted 01/24/12 4:23pm

RodeoSchro

I sure have! In fact, I still am!

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Reply #42 posted 01/24/12 5:16pm

Dave1992

missfee said:

Dave1992 said:

I don't know and I don't think so.

Two people tried to convince me they loved me unconditionally (one of them still does) and as much as I want to believe it, I can't.

I've been in this position too. As much as the person told me that they loved me, I knew deep down that he didn't love me as much as I loved him. What he was telling me wasn't matching up with the inconsiderate way he would treat me.

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The weird thing is, they did/do absolutely everything to show me how much they love me and to show me I can trust them and their love. Actually, it even seems as if they have even stronger feelings more me than I could ever have for any person, but still I am too suspicious, shy and simply a tad bit afraid to bond with anyone on an extremely emotional level.

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Reply #43 posted 01/24/12 5:18pm

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Dave1992 said:

missfee said:

I've been in this position too. As much as the person told me that they loved me, I knew deep down that he didn't love me as much as I loved him. What he was telling me wasn't matching up with the inconsiderate way he would treat me.

[Edited 1/24/12 4:25am]

The weird thing is, they did/do absolutely everything to show me how much they love me and to show me I can trust them and their love. Actually, it even seems as if they have even stronger feelings more me than I could ever have for any person, but still I am too suspicious, SHY and simply a tad bit afraid to bond with anyone on an extremely emotional level.

fishslap talk to the hand please.

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Reply #44 posted 01/24/12 5:22pm

Dave1992

PurpleJedi said:

Dave1992 said:

The weird thing is, they did/do absolutely everything to show me how much they love me and to show me I can trust them and their love. Actually, it even seems as if they have even stronger feelings more me than I could ever have for any person, but still I am too suspicious, SHY and simply a tad bit afraid to bond with anyone on an extremely emotional level.

fishslap talk to the hand please.

Hmm... probably depends on your definition of "shy" and the context.

If we're talking about a jazz bar late at night and three ladies in cocktail dresses looking for a nice bottle of wine, I'd gladly walk over and help them with my service; so in that sence I am not shy.

If we're talking about being on-stage and not afraid to sing, move and play I'm also not shy (anymore).

But I've heard many people say that I'm only open up to a certain point, but after that I'm "withdrawn" and "shy"; those were their words...

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Reply #45 posted 01/24/12 5:29pm

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Dave1992 said:

PurpleJedi said:

fishslap talk to the hand please.

Hmm... probably depends on your definition of "shy" and the context.

If we're talking about a jazz bar late at night and three ladies in cocktail dresses looking for a nice bottle of wine, I'd gladly walk over and help them with my service; so in that sence I am not shy.

If we're talking about being on-stage and not afraid to sing, move and play I'm also not shy (anymore).

But I've heard many people say that I'm only open up to a certain point, but after that I'm "withdrawn" and "shy"; those were their words...

lol Ahh...OK then, so I would say that you're emotionally reserved.

You're not too shy to reach out and start something, but you will keep your heart/emotions firmly in check.

Smart.

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Reply #46 posted 01/24/12 5:35pm

retina

CarrieMpls said:

I guess it depends on your definition of unconditional love.

You can love somebody but not be able to maintain a relationship.

If my man cheated on me, would I still love him?

What if he beat me? Is it a bad thing if the love goes away then?

And if you love someone and part ways because you can’t make a relationship work, what happens when you meet someone new? I don’t “have feelings” for any of my exes, but I wish them well and love them as people.

I agree with the above.

The only examples of true unconditional love that I've seen have been between parent and child or between people and their pets. Romantic relationships are a much trickier issue. As Carrie said you might still love and respect them as people, but to love them completely unconditionally in a romantic sense? I doubt it's even possible.

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Reply #47 posted 01/24/12 5:38pm

Dave1992

PurpleJedi said:

Dave1992 said:

Hmm... probably depends on your definition of "shy" and the context.

If we're talking about a jazz bar late at night and three ladies in cocktail dresses looking for a nice bottle of wine, I'd gladly walk over and help them with my service; so in that sence I am not shy.

If we're talking about being on-stage and not afraid to sing, move and play I'm also not shy (anymore).

But I've heard many people say that I'm only open up to a certain point, but after that I'm "withdrawn" and "shy"; those were their words...

lol Ahh...OK then, so I would say that you're emotionally reserved.

You're not too shy to reach out and start something, but you will keep your heart/emotions firmly in check.

Smart.

nod

Probably sounds more plausible, yeah.

It may be "smart" in a sense that it's more safe, but I don't do it on purpose and even if I wanted to open up and surpass this borderline of showing feelings and show real, unconditional love/trust, I couldn't. Sometimes I'm glad I can't, sometimes I feel sorry for the hurt and confusion it causes in other people...

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Reply #48 posted 01/24/12 5:50pm

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ROMANTICLLY!!!

that means

you shouldn't be bringin yo

parents or yo kids into this

thread, UNLESS you havin a baby

with yo grandma...

i am KING BAD!!!
you are NOT...
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Reply #49 posted 01/24/12 6:11pm

LadyLuvSexxy

Nah.

It was very conditional. Took a long time to realize it. Was it love? Yes. I can at least say that much. It was also rather passionate.

Well....

unless you mean any kind of love. My dad and grandma love me unconditionally despite many years of crazy, crazy antics. lol

Other than that, the Lady has yet to be loved unconditionally in the romantic sense. And for some reason, that makes me crave a taco. lol

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Reply #50 posted 01/24/12 6:35pm

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KingBAD said:

ROMANTICALLY!!!

that means

you shouldn't be bringin yo

parents or yo kids into this

thread, UNLESS you havin a baby

with yo grandma...

falloff

Thanks for reminding us KingBAD, before I posted a pic of my dog.

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Reply #51 posted 01/24/12 8:44pm

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I don't know. I think I've been with some people who thought they did, but who knows? I've never really allowed myself to be in a relationship such that I would know it.

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Reply #52 posted 01/24/12 8:46pm

MachT

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I asked my wife and she said it would be a good idea if I said 'yes'.

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Reply #53 posted 01/24/12 8:51pm

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No

Not romantically

Not platonically either.

There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin.
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Reply #54 posted 01/25/12 4:23am

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Nope, well....maybe my cat lol

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Reply #55 posted 01/25/12 6:01am

KingBAD

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RuthCass said:

Nope, well....maybe my cat lol

now that's sexy!!!

i am KING BAD!!!
you are NOT...
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Reply #56 posted 01/25/12 7:39am

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KingBAD said:

RuthCass said:

Nope, well....maybe my cat lol

now that's sexy!!!

disbelief lol

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Reply #57 posted 01/25/12 10:19am

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retina said:

CarrieMpls said:

I guess it depends on your definition of unconditional love.

You can love somebody but not be able to maintain a relationship.

If my man cheated on me, would I still love him?

What if he beat me? Is it a bad thing if the love goes away then?

And if you love someone and part ways because you can’t make a relationship work, what happens when you meet someone new? I don’t “have feelings” for any of my exes, but I wish them well and love them as people.

I agree with the above.

The only examples of true unconditional love that I've seen have been between parent and child or between people and their pets. Romantic relationships are a much trickier issue. As Carrie said you might still love and respect them as people, but to love them completely unconditionally in a romantic sense? I doubt it's even possible.

Not even just romantic, but friendships and sibling relationships too. None of that stuff is really unconditional either contrary to what people say.

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Reply #58 posted 01/25/12 12:38pm

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Dren5 said:

retina said:

I agree with the above.

The only examples of true unconditional love that I've seen have been between parent and child or between people and their pets. Romantic relationships are a much trickier issue. As Carrie said you might still love and respect them as people, but to love them completely unconditionally in a romantic sense? I doubt it's even possible.

Not even just romantic, but friendships and sibling relationships too. None of that stuff is really unconditional either contrary to what people say.

So are some of you saying that most relationships, especially romantic ones ARE based on conditions? For instance physical looks, job status, how much money the person makes, material things, etc.? confuse

I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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Reply #59 posted 01/25/12 1:38pm

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Unconditional love is a term that means to love someone regardless of one's actions or beliefs. It is a concept comparable to true love, a term which is more frequently used to describe love between lovers. By contrast, unconditional love is frequently used to describe love between family members, comrades in arms and between others in highly committed relationships.

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