Graycap23 said:

I'll take the thick one every time.

I don't really get the grown woman with the body of a 12 year old look.

When I was 12 my body looked not that different to the body of the thick one and now as a "grown woman" it looks not so different to the one that you describe having the body of a 12 year old. I still have tits and curves, but of course they would be bigger if I'd be less skinny, but I sure don't look any less of a woman just because I am skinny. If Id' gain weight and thus my ass and tits would get bigger I would not look or be any more of a woman than today.

TotalANXiousNESS said:

WaterInYourBath said:

You didn't answer my question.

Thats cuz he like to call out the ignorance of others, but when he's called out on his he has no comment.

....

Serious said:

Graycap23 said:

I'll take the thick one every time.

I don't really get the grown woman with the body of a 12 year old look.

When I was 12 my body looked not that different to the body of the thick one and now as a "grown woman" it looks not so different to the one that you describe having the body of a 12 year old. I still have tits and curves, but of course they would be bigger if I'd be less skinny, but I sure don't look any less of a woman just because I am skinny. If Id' gain weight and thus my ass and tits would get bigger I would not look or be any more of a woman than today.

The average 12 year old is about 100 lbs and completely underdeveloped. They look like the "kid" that they are. I don't think that is a good look 4 a grown adult woman.

any guy who judges me by my body shape and size has NO chance with me.

mind you, i'm into fitness, but not to the point of ridiculous and unhealthy.

imago said:

WaterInYourBath said:

Ahh, so like the "12 year old" commenter, you must be implying her breast size was too small, like I thought. 'Cause I'm sure her having a youthful face isn't what you were referring to, nor her being slim (considering old women with large breasts can have thin arms/legs just like she did). Well, I think that's unfair to say, since Kate was not totally flat, and no matter what she ate to gain weight, her cup size would not have changed. However, I can relate to your perspective, since, for example, and no offense to you, but I think voluntarily soft, out-of-shape men under 50 years old without visible/cut muscles also look like pre-teen females from the waist up/neck down. So we're all entitled to our opinions, and I can respect yours. Thanks for at least explaining, and not replying to my question with a question.

That was what I was referring to, but I guess you've got powers of interpretation that transcend my own thoughts?

Really? But that would mean you think female faces change/age drastically between the ages of 15-25, as Kate was only about 20 in that photo you linked to, so her still having a youthful face at that age would be expected, even though her body was completely developed. Whereas, on the other hand, breasts can increase in size significantly during those ages, and can make the common distinction between a female adolescent's shape versus an adult's, which is why I figured that's what you were talking about. Hmm, ok then, I was wrong about your post. I'm sorry I misinterpreted what you meant.

WaterInYourBath said:

imago said:

That was what I was referring to, but I guess you've got powers of interpretation that transcend my own thoughts?

Really? But that would mean you think female faces change/age drastically between the ages of 15-25, as Kate was only about 20 in that photo you linked to, so her still having a youthful face at that age would be expected, even though her body was completely developed. Whereas, on the other hand, breasts can increase in size significantly during those ages, and can make the common distinction between a female adolescent's shape versus an adult's, which is why I figured that's what you were talking about. Hmm, ok then, I was wrong about your post. I'm sorry I misinterpreted what you meant.

So, you're assuming things about the way I think?

I think I've explained my position. Perhaps conjecture doesn't really help you much in this regard.

omgggggggggg! TOP THREAD!! 1

I love BIG women, curvy, with a wide pussy, meaty thighs, meaty ass, big tits (if possible) hhhhhmmmmmmm

and please, there's a difference between curvy/big/meaty women and obese women, even if the stupid mainstream society cannot see it...

anyway, I still prefer an obese woman than a extremely thin woman

[Edited 1/13/12 10:07am]

yeah, gimme the 'big' girl...every time. too many corners on those skinny chicks. if i need a bruise, i'll walk into a coffe table.

imago said:

WaterInYourBath said:

Really? But that would mean you think female faces change/age drastically between the ages of 15-25, as Kate was only about 20 in that photo you linked to, so her still having a youthful face at that age would be expected, even though her body was completely developed. Whereas, on the other hand, breasts can increase in size significantly during those ages, and can make the common distinction between a female adolescent's shape versus an adult's, which is why I figured that's what you were talking about. Hmm, ok then, I was wrong about your post. I'm sorry I misinterpreted what you meant.

So, you're assuming things about the way I think?

I think I've explained my position. Perhaps conjecture doesn't really help you much in this regard.

No. I responded to you only because your posts seemed to allude to something different than what this thread is about (mentioning an "assumed" age of a woman based on a factor other than body weight), that's why I inquired. But I apologized for not getting your point, regardless of whether or not I agree with it.

OK I need to back up... because Totalanxiousness made a great point.

"Models shouldn't be average"

True... but I know thick women with FABULOUS bodies and are curvy... but these curvy women are called FAT.

Now I love the women pictured because they show pieces of fatty tissues and it shows us what regular woman look like so its not so shocking/ugly to look at.

The intolerance for any body fat or loose skin on a woman pisses me off. Hell even Michele Obama was criticized for having a "fat" posterior, but she isn't fat. She just has a high rounded ass aand hips.

But some see that as "fat". Its ridiculous.

So yes, those two women may not be the best examples of what fabulous average sized women should be pictured as.... but MEN like thick. I think images of the thicker women should be part of the industry because obviously men DO like that.

Oh and yes, if an average women is pictured she is called "fat" because we are intolerant of seeing a pouch or thickness on a woman's body.

These women aren't "fat". Yet, we still call them "fat".

paintedlady said:

OK I need to back up... because Totalanxiousness made a great point.

"Models shouldn't be average"

True... but I know thick women with FABULOUS bodies and are curvy... but these curvy women are called FAT.

Now I love the women pictured because they show pieces of fatty tissues and it shows us what regular woman look like so its not so shocking/ugly to look at.

The intolerance for any body fat or loose skin on a woman pisses me off. Hell even Michele Obama was criticized for having a "fat" posterior, but she isn't fat. She just has a high rounded ass aand hips.

But some see that as "fat". Its ridiculous.

So yes, those two women may not be the best examples of what fabulous average sized women should be pictured as.... but MEN like thick. I think images of the thicker women should be part of the industry because obviously men DO like that.

Oh and yes, if an average women is pictured she is called "fat" because we are intolerant of seeing a pouch or thickness on a woman's body.

These women aren't "fat". Yet, we still call them "fat".

I find curvier women more attractive too. I don't care for belly fat though. I LOVE LOVE LOVE seeing women with big curves allllllll over, and then a tiny waist. These women are blessed. I don't know how the hell they manage to shift their fat to every spot on their body except one. If I could figure it out I'd do it in a second.

paintedlady said:

MEN like thick. I think images of the thicker women should be part of the industry because obviously men DO like that.

Oh and yes, if an average women is pictured she is called "fat" because we are intolerant of seeing a pouch or thickness on a woman's body.

These women aren't "fat". Yet, we still call them "fat".

females do that. We men love thick women, curvy pornstars, Rachel Welch, Urusla Andress, JLo, Beyoncé, KimK and similar stuff, lol

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This is a very particular comment, so I've hesitated making it, but here goes...

The upper arms on the thin model gross me out. They look damn near anorexic. For most people, there should be some size increase/difference between the lower arm & leg and the upper arm & leg (not drastic, just some). For me, the way my eyeballs process "beauty", that "straight arm", "stick arm" look is too skinny.

Now, this is not to say that some women aren't naturally that small and very attractive the way they are. I'm not trying to put anybody on the spot or make anybody feel self-concious. If that's how your genes made you there's no reason to make yourself bigger. But very few people are so skinny naturally that there isn't still some visible size difference between those two areas.

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Regardless of what size any of them are, Cerebus finds all of the other women pictured here attractive. And that first "larger" model does not have a lot of belly fat.

NDRU said:

Personally, I like somewhere in between (no pun intended!)

every pun intended

TotalANXiousNESS said:

paintedlady said:

OK I need to back up... because Totalanxiousness made a great point.

"Models shouldn't be average"

True... but I know thick women with FABULOUS bodies and are curvy... but these curvy women are called FAT.

Now I love the women pictured because they show pieces of fatty tissues and it shows us what regular woman look like so its not so shocking/ugly to look at.

The intolerance for any body fat or loose skin on a woman pisses me off. Hell even Michele Obama was criticized for having a "fat" posterior, but she isn't fat. She just has a high rounded ass aand hips.

But some see that as "fat". Its ridiculous.

So yes, those two women may not be the best examples of what fabulous average sized women should be pictured as.... but MEN like thick. I think images of the thicker women should be part of the industry because obviously men DO like that.

Oh and yes, if an average women is pictured she is called "fat" because we are intolerant of seeing a pouch or thickness on a woman's body.

These women aren't "fat". Yet, we still call them "fat".

I find curvier women more attractive too. I don't care for belly fat though. I LOVE LOVE LOVE seeing women with big curves allllllll over, and then a tiny waist. These women are blessed. I don't know how the hell they manage to shift their fat to every spot on their body except one. If I could figure it out I'd do it in a second.

I've seen "hour glass" shaped women with FLAT stomaches and round asses, fat tits. They are just born that way... no weight is shifted.

I see those bodies and think "wow... I wish..."

its these bodies that Hollywood shuns as "fat" and I think they shouldn't be.

But even a thick waisted woman should be celebrated in some fashion also... there should be beauty found in all shapes and not just have ONE form that is acceptable. IMO maybe then we as women wouldn't be so critical of ourselves in general.

Deadcake said:

I have a feeling that instinctively for males, a small waist is more attractive than a large one on a female because it signals she has not borne the offspring of a competing male and is good to claim (and knock up)

or simply that she has no annoying little ones around!

NDRU said:

Deadcake said:

I have a feeling that instinctively for males, a small waist is more attractive than a large one on a female because it signals she has not borne the offspring of a competing male and is good to claim (and knock up)

or simply that she has no annoying little ones around!

if he were an animal he could just kill them!

Deadcake said:

NDRU said:

or simply that she has no annoying little ones around!

if he were an animal he could just kill them!

Good to keep your options open, anyway

paintedlady said:

TotalANXiousNESS said:

I find curvier women more attractive too. I don't care for belly fat though. I LOVE LOVE LOVE seeing women with big curves allllllll over, and then a tiny waist. These women are blessed. I don't know how the hell they manage to shift their fat to every spot on their body except one. If I could figure it out I'd do it in a second.

I've seen "hour glass" shaped women with FLAT stomaches and round asses, fat tits. They are just born that way... no weight is shifted.

I see those bodies and think "wow... I wish..."

its these bodies that Hollywood shuns as "fat" and I think they shouldn't be.

But even a thick waisted woman should be celebrated in some fashion also... there should be beauty found in all shapes and not just have ONE form that is acceptable. IMO maybe then we as women wouldn't be so critical of ourselves in general.

For sure. Women in general should be celebrated. Cuz we are a great species.

NinaB said:

WaterInYourBath said:

imago said:

So, you're assuming things about the way I think?

I think I've explained my position. Perhaps conjecture doesn't really help you much in this regard.

No. I responded to you only because your posts seemed to allude to something different than what this thread is about (mentioning an "assumed" age of a woman based on a factor other than body weight), that's why I inquired. But I apologized for not getting your point, regardless of whether or not I agree with it.

No, they did not.

Deadcake said:

love this!

Big booty bitchez be bumpin', yo.

[Edited 1/15/12 7:13am]

paintedlady said:

NDRU said:

Personally, I like somewhere in between (no pun intended!)

So the "average" sized woman is too big for your taste?

did you see the other photos of her?

And the caption should read...."FLAME ON"......

those ladies are talll and their bodies are in proportion with their height

ii think short ppl look better thinner - but not 2 thin

I've noticed this tendency in recent years where people try and 'spin' this whole situation - "Real women don't look like that" - but here's the thing - what most real American women look like, isn't a healthy or normal standard, either - the majority of the population, is obese and has all kinds of health problems and risks premature death because of it.

People always bitch about the modeling body extreme, but the extreme size of most women nowadays is equally fucked up.

tinaz said:

paintedlady said:

I was amazed when I first saw models IRL on the runway... but this was years ago. The models are only getting thinner.

I saw this article and I wanted you guys to share your thoughts. Do you think we should see images of normal sized women on TV, magazines, runways?

http://www.pajiba.com/tra...ndhole.php

WHy did you have to say "normal"?

I like to surf Pinterest, its a pinning website, anyway, I got into it with some other women because they called larger sized women "real" women... What does that mean? Why arent thinner women considered real and normal...

Im all for plus sized women getting more coverage but i really get tired of everyone assuming thinner women are not the "norm" and everyone is overweight, and those who arent are wrong for wanting to have a fit body... Or maybe not 'wrong" but vain and stupid...

I dont wanna pick these women apart at all, but it seems to me larger women wanna make thinner women feel bad about wanting to be thin...

But thats just me...

Im not really directing this at you Painted, sorry if I ranted a bit...

...This.

I've lost count of how many times I've had a bigger woman tell me that she's a 'real' woman - the implication being that I'm not, by default. Or being referred to as 'small and weak' because I'm not plus-sized.

It's really just an attempt to try and reaffirm and feel better about themselves at other people's expense and a case of thou protest too much, because if you're really okay with your size and don't feel it's an issue at all, you wouldn't feel the need to slag others off, period.