angel345 said:

Spare the rod, spoil the child. I've seen kids that I grew up get spanked with extension cords or switches. They turned out fine. My mother made me, and my siblings get our own switch from the bushes before she spanked our behinds. If that switch was too light, she got it for us . We turned out fine. That belt was light action.

If a parent needs to beat their kid to stop them from being spoiled then they are just flat out incompetent. Being spoiled stems from many things and lack of physical abuse is not one of them.

My mother used to whoop my ass too & thank God she did. I would've been bad as hell [If I'm even still alive today ]. Thanks to those ass beatings, I have no jail records whatsoever, I'm respectful to everybody, & I don't do drugs or anything. I'm honestly shocked to see a caucasian child getting a disciplined like that by their parents to be honest . I've known caucasian kids who have cussed their parents out as little kids & throw all sorts of tantrums [in their teenage years even]. Stuff like this is always sketchy to talk about, because we all have different views on it......

LadyCasanova said:

angel345 said:

Spare the rod, spoil the child. I've seen kids that I grew up get Beat with extension cords or switches. They turned out fine. My mother made me, and my siblings get our own switch from the bushes before she spanked our behinds. If that switch was too light, she got it for us . We turned out fine. That belt was light action.

My step mother (my actual mom never hit me) had anger issues and she used to beat the hell out of

us (her kids and me)

with extension cords, belts, leather straps etc.

When she began, it was over "bad" things that we did, as we got older, it was over anything (knocking over a glass of juice etc).

I remember being ordered to bend over the table/bed; hands on the wall back turned etc.

If we moved it was only worse for us. She would also hit us in the face, drag us down the hallway

by our hair (the girls). She even pressed my step sisters hand against the stove top at one point.

Just because you turned out "fine" doesn't mean the action is ok, or that it should be condoned.

There is also nothing to prove that without the abuse you would have been any less "fine" then you are now.

I can say I am a happy person, but my step siblings have major problems. Not everyone

responds to abuse in the same way. I still have scars on my back and ass from that shit.

I was not abused by my mother nor father as a child. My mother beat me because I set the garbage can on fire. She gave me lashes across the behind. If this Texas judge's daughter lied, cheated, and stoled things, she deserve that beating across her behind, and that's what she got, an old fashioned whipping. He's an old school father from the south, and if you're over thirty, you understand . She was a problem child, and the wife did not contest to her whippings. He did not kill her, she is not unconsious, there's no blood, she didn't need an ambulance. Nowadays, you gotta spare the rod or you'll go to jail.

Shorty said:

angel345 said:

Spare the rod, spoil the child. I've seen kids that I grew up get spanked with extension cords or switches. They turned out fine. My mother made me, and my siblings get our own switch from the bushes before she spanked our behinds. If that switch was too light, she got it for us . We turned out fine. That belt was light action.

so will you beat your kids?

She's only gotten one beaten across her behind with a belt. Not to get into details, but she lied about something which caused discord in the family. Other than that, she a fine kid who makes good grades.

Tittypants said:

My mother used to whoop my ass too & thank God she did. I would've been bad as hell [If I'm even still alive today ]. Thanks to those ass beatings, I have no jail records whatsoever, I'm respectful to everybody, & I don't do drugs or anything. I'm honestly shocked to see a caucasian child getting a disciplined like that by their parents to be honest . I've known caucasian kids who have cussed their parents out as little kids & throw all sorts of tantrums [in their teenage years even]. Stuff like this is always sketchy to talk about, because we all have different views on it......

That's true

angel345 said:

Shorty said:

so will you beat your kids?

She's only gotten one beaten across her behind with a belt. Not to get into details, but she lied about something which caused discord in the family. Other than that, she a fine kid who makes good grades.

Correction: one spanking.

angel345 said:

angel345 said:

She's only gotten one beaten across her behind with a belt. Not to get into details, but she lied about something which caused discord in the family. Other than that, she a fine kid who makes good grades.

Correction: one spanking.

nah...no correction needed.

so how old was she when you beat her with a belt?

Shorty said:

angel345 said:

Correction: one spanking.

nah...no correction needed.

so how old was she when you beat her with a belt?

Call it what you like, and she was 10.

angel345 said:

I was not abused by my mother nor father as a child. My mother beat me because I set the garbage can on fire. She gave me lashes across the behind. If this Texas judge's daughter lied, cheated, and stoled things, she deserve that beating across her behind, and that's what she got, an old fashioned whipping. He's an old school father from the south, and if you're over thirty, you understand . She was a problem child, and the wife did not contest to her whippings. He did not kill her, she is not unconsious, there's no blood, she didn't need an ambulance. Nowadays, you gotta spare the rod or you'll go to jail.

Where do you get that she was a problem child? What she did was download something illegally

online. If that means she should get an ass beating then there are a whole lot of people who are

out of control and in need of an ass beating, including myself.

The wife later admitted that the father was out of control and that the beatings were not uncommon.

She is sorry for the part that she played in it and claims that her husband has an "addiction" and

that she did what he wanted, not what she wanted.

Just because an action goes uncontested doesn't make the action just or right.

LadyCasanova said:

angel345 said:

Where do you get that she was a problem child? What she did was download something illegally

online. If that means she should get an ass beating then there are a whole lot of people who are

out of control and in need of an ass beating, including myself.

The wife later admitted that the father was out of control and that the beatings were not uncommon.

She is sorry for the part that she played in it and claims that her husband has an "addiction" and

that she did what he wanted, not what she wanted.

Just because an action goes uncontested doesn't make the action just or right.

She lied, cheated, and steals. Didn't you listen to the tape? Well, let the court decide. That's it. I'm not here to argue here.

^

wow , [Snip - luv4u] if you agree with what that man did

the man should be punished for child abuse

HELLO it was about illegal downloading ffs

I could not stomach watching that sick shit

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All kinds of nothing but wrong. In a progressive, intelligent world, there should be absolutely no room for corporal punishment.

I know frustration and I know anger. I know that kids need to learn respect and sometimes get on the wrong track (through friends, TV etc) even though you have done your personal best. Still, if you're not fit to handle any possible situation regarding your potential child, do not choose to have kids.

Most of us were spanked when we were little and most of us are alright human beings nowadays, but I doubt it's because someone raised a hand on us. My father raised his hand on me once and I raised it back on him, that was it, we're still very close. My mother beat me all the fucking time and we had a horrible relationship.

It shouldn't be done as a matter of principle, no matter if it actually does help in some cases or not. That's my take on it.

Shorty said:

angel345 said:

Correction: one spanking.

nah...no correction needed.

so how old was she when you beat her with a belt?

Um...yeah, there's a huge difference.

If the justification for this is that her father is an "old-school father from the South" and that being from Texas allows you to behave like a Neandertal idiot, then fuck your South, seriously .

No disrespect to the cool folks living there, though. It's not your fault you were born in Texas.

Dave1992 said:

All kinds of nothing but wrong. In a progressive, intelligent world, there should be absolutely no room for corporal punishment.

I know frustration and I know anger. I know that kids need to learn respect and sometimes get on the wrong track (through friends, TV etc) even though you have done your personal best. Still, if you're not fit to handle any possible situation regarding your potential child, do not choose to have kids.

Most of us were spanked when we were little and most of us are alright human beings nowadays, but I doubt it's because someone raised a hand on us. My father raised his hand on me once and I raised it back on him, that was it, we're still very close. My mother beat me all the fucking time and we had a horrible relationship.

It shouldn't be done as a matter of principle, no matter if it actually does help in some cases or not. That's my take on it.

We can have children together

I don't agree with what he did but at the same time, kids are out of hand these days and often scolding and finger waving just doesn't work. IMO she got a vigorous spanking but she did not get BEAT! A beating will leave your ass with physical scars and may require medical attention. Lets keep in mind that there are kids out there who are so viciously abused that they need to be removed from the home and some are killed as a result of being beaten. This man has anger and control issues no doubt but I'm not seeing anything that makes me want to dump him in a vat of acid. He could do without the foul language. Parents should not cuss at their children under any circumstances.

HotGritz said:

I don't agree with what he did but at the same time, kids are out of hand these days and often scolding and finger waving just doesn't work. IMO she got a vigorous spanking but she did not get BEAT! A beating will leave your ass with physical scars and may require medical attention. Lets keep in mind that there are kids out there who are so viciously abused that they need to be removed from the home and some are killed as a result of being beaten. This man has anger and control issues no doubt but I'm not seeing anything that makes me want to dump him in a vat of acid. He could do without the foul language. Parents should not cuss at their children under any circumstances.

Legally, depending on where you are, the difference isn't in scars, but in marks, and how long

those marks linger. From the wrap around effect alone I bet that girl had bruises that lasted for

longer then 24 hrs.

Also, a spanking is generally considered hitting an individual, with an open hand, on the ass. That

guy was hitting his daughter on the ass/legs/thighs with a belt. That is not a spanking, even if you

don't want to call it a beating.

LadyCasanova said:

HotGritz said:

I don't agree with what he did but at the same time, kids are out of hand these days and often scolding and finger waving just doesn't work. IMO she got a vigorous spanking but she did not get BEAT! A beating will leave your ass with physical scars and may require medical attention. Lets keep in mind that there are kids out there who are so viciously abused that they need to be removed from the home and some are killed as a result of being beaten. This man has anger and control issues no doubt but I'm not seeing anything that makes me want to dump him in a vat of acid. He could do without the foul language. Parents should not cuss at their children under any circumstances.

Legally, depending on where you are, the difference isn't in scars, but in marks, and how long

those marks linger. From the wrap around effect alone I bet that girl had bruises that lasted for

longer then 24 hrs.

Also, a spanking is generally considered hitting an individual, with an open hand, on the ass. That

guy was hitting his daughter on the ass/legs/thighs with a belt. That is not a spanking, even if you

don't want to call it a beating.

True, where you reside makes a difference in what laws will affect how you raise your kids. I don't know about the wrap around effect because its happening rather fast in this video and she's clothed and we can't be sure that's a leather belt as opposed to some other material. Even so, a bruise fading in 24 hours is not as bad as a welt, broken or bleeding skin and scars that don't fade at all.

Now I'm not sure about the definition of a spanking. I always thought it was either open hand, paddle or belt making contact with the child's bum and that said child was bent over the parents lap but still clothed. Its all confusing and every family is different. Perhaps its up to her to decide whether she was beat or not. From the reports I've read, she doesn't want people hating her dad but would rather he get some sort of counseling. That says a lot. I would think that if you were abused you would want that person to be held responsible and suffer whatever consequences the law offers.

What's also confusing to me is why he felt the need to physically discipline her at age 17? Something isn't right about that. Did he not use corporal punishment in her younger years? Seems when you discipline the child when he/she is very young they are less likely to misbehave when they get older.

Maybe she really is a problem child or just plain hard headed.

HotGritz said:

There are kids being beaten far worse than what that girl received. what i saw was an aggressive spanking. I wouldn't call that a BEATING. You got kids out here being hit with bats, fists, ironing cords, chairs, and they're getting hit by more than one family member.

Kids like this.

http://www.sacbee.com/201...k=misearch

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^ NOW THAT'S A BEATING!!!! Torturous and horrific! The people that did that to her ought to be executed without mercy!

HotGritz said:

^ NOW THAT'S A BEATING!!!! Torturous and horrific! The people that did that to her ought to be executed without mercy!

I agree !

Concerning the original video, that guy has some serious issues. He seems like a sadists with a god complex. I bet he believes he's doing God's will, the sick ****.

On a Personal level i disagree with that whole spare the rod, spoil the child mindset. I agree that in a few instances a swat on the behind is necessary but when a person start talking about belts and switches, i just don't think that's the answer. If they have to start whipping ass like that then things are allready outta control. Some kids can be punished with belts and switches and turn out just fine but for some, that stuff is traumatic and does more harm than good. Kids need to be punished for their bad behavior though so i believe in things like grounding, extra chores, taking away things they love, ect. To me they don't need to be beaten or even spanked they need time invested in (attention), love, communication, accountability, discipline, ect.

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If folks here cannot see beyond those crocodile tears and drama, they are blind as a bat, and gullible as sheep. She's a manipulative wench, and still a thorn in her father's flesh. Notice when he left the room, those crocodile tears stop, and its just the mother in the room? Then when she left, she got up like nothing hit her, and turned that tape off. Believe that it's abuse if you wish. She just sold America a bill of goods. Manipulation at work. I've said my peace.

P.S.- I do not condone the cursing, myself. He should have curb that.

JoeyC said:

HotGritz said:

There are kids being beaten far worse than what that girl received. what i saw was an aggressive spanking. I wouldn't call that a BEATING. You got kids out here being hit with bats, fists, ironing cords, chairs, and they're getting hit by more than one family member.

Kids like this.

http://www.sacbee.com/201...k=misearch

[Edited 11/3/11 16:17pm]

That's abuse

Dave1992 said:

If the justification for this is that her father is an "old-school father from the South" and that being from Texas allows you to behave like a Neandertal idiot, then fuck your South, seriously .

No disrespect to the cool folks living there, though. It's not your fault you were born in Texas.

Yo Dave. You're 180 degrees from what Texas is really like.

That guy is absolutely not the typical Texan in any way, shape or form.

Do you want to know how cool Texas is?

Prince owns a house not far from me, and a ranch about two hours away.

Come down here some time and I'll show you how the West was won!

As a child who was disciplined with a yard stick, belt and hand, I can honestly say that all I remember is the discipline and not the actual "naughty" thing I did to deserve it. I feel that physical discipline, for the most part, really just teaches the child to not get caught the next time.

The punishment I remember the most? When I didn't clean my room after being asked repeatedly by my mother when I was 6. As my punishment she put all of my toys in a trash bag and told me she threw them away. At first I was angry at my mom and then I was angry with myself because I didn't do what I was told. It was revealed a week later that she put the trash bag in the cellar so I got my toys back but I really did learn a true lesson from that punishment.

angel345 said:

If folks here cannot see beyond those crocodile tears and drama, they are blind as a bat, and gullible as sheep. She's a manipulative wench, and still a thorn in her father's flesh. Notice when he left the room, those crocodile tears stop, and its just the mother in the room? Then when she left, she got up like nothing hit her, and turned that tape off. Believe that it's abuse if you wish. She just sold America a bill of goods. Manipulation at work. I've said my peace.

P.S.- I do not condone the cursing, myself. He should have curb that.

Who cares? She got beaten with a belt. Nothing she could have done is justification for that.

Like I said, give me two minutes in a room alone with that guy. He'll never raise a hand to another human again.

angel345 said:

Spare the rod, spoil the child. I've seen kids that I grew up get spanked with extension cords or switches. They turned out fine. My mother made me, and my siblings get our own switch from the bushes before she spanked our behinds. If that switch was too light, she got it for us . We turned out fine. That belt was light action.

THE all-time worst whipping that I ever received from my mother (may YHWH have mercy on that woman soul!) was with an extension cord when I was age 8.

Like a total smart ass, I've once hid the belt AND the taped wooden paddle in an attempt to not get a whipping for taking food without asking and hiding the leftovers behind the refrigerator. When my mother failed to find either one, she went for the extension cords. Be as it may, she took the original concepts of disciplining and went too far when she beat the living hell out of me all over my buttock AND legs.

If or when I ever have children of my own, I will never use an extension cords to discipline them because that is physical abuse.

oops repost later on >_> lol

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paintedlady said:

Spankings are not supposed to hurt.

Oh really?

I wasn't spanked often, but when I was, that belt hurt like a mfer.