Curiosity got the best of me, but I watched only a bit. When I saw him being sprayed with what appeared like lighter fluid, I stopped.

This is worse than that video of he Uighur boy being beaten by a Chinese mob...

FuzzyWitch said:

i watched it last night for just under a minute, i just couldnt bear 2 watch the whole thing, i prayed that he didnt die and that someone stopped it, but then i read other comments and it was too painful 4 me.

the lack of respect for life, the power of taking another persons life.... how can this still be happening, when will ppl learn

re the victim.....

I dont't know your name, but may your soul rest in peace and i pray your story lives forever in hope that mankind will learn to love

That's so nice of you Fuzzy.....

I never turn these videos off early. They are a harsh reminder of whats going on in the world and the history of human fear/prejudice/ignorance etc.

A lot of people don't watch them because it makes them sad/unhappy etc and they get mad

when someone posts it and makes them face something that isn't "nice." Not everything that

needs to be done is going to be nice or make us happy. These remind us of what we ignore on a

day to day basis, namely, our own privileges.

connorhawke said:

To JoeTyler:

What are you telling me to "shut the fuck up" for?

Firstly, this thread doesn't "proves that there are still gay people being humiliated/tortured and-or killed". It proves nothing apart from a man was tortured to death.

I agree with you that nobody should forget that people are tortured and killed for their sexuality. My thoughts on this are not in doubt. But before you swear at me again, go back and read my post PROPERLY. You'll see that I was objecting to the video being posted and specifically POSTED WITHOUT COMMENT. This isn't political or making a statement unless a point in being made. And it wasn't. Without the point it could easily be construed as sick voyeurism.

And before you have a further go or others like Kooleaze "co-sign" you for shitting on my post again, let me put this is context.

I'm objecting to this because nothing is clearly stated and the original poster has only now amended the video to provide some sort of explanation or reason for posting something so horrible.

ed unconAnd If you think I don't "get it", I'm a gay man who once was beaten within an inch of his life by six men and hurlscious in front of a passing train. I'm lucky to be alive.

Thank you Pr1ncequik for amending the original post.

Thank you for sharing this. I don't think that everyone understands just how much some people really do get it. You don't need to go to a third world country to be in unsafe territory if your a gay man. It happens everywhere. One of the things I hate about people thinking of all the terrible things happening in the Middle East and in Africa is that these highlights make it seem as if we Americans and Westerners are so much more evolved and humane than the rest of the world, and that is absolutely not the case.

[Edited 10/1/11 18:29pm]

scatwoman said:

Fuck your gods and fuck your religions as all they do is fuck humanity.

I can honestly say... God has NOTHING to do with man's hatred and fear.

People use excuses for their hatred... so they use the excuse of "a god/religion/a belief" to condone or justify their hatred.

I am pretty sure if "God" couldn't be used as an excuse they would find another excuse to justify this madness.

I am beginning to really fear that people in general NEED something to hate and look down on to feel better about their own miserable lives.

Not all of us kill, but many of us taunt, belittle, bully, and go to extremes to make someone feel bad who is NOT like ourselves.

Before it was skin color... now its sexuality... what's next? If you are a fat kid will you be butchered?

If you are too pretty? Too ugly? Too tall/short/thin/rich or poor?

Can you love something foreign to you? If something is different from what you know or been taught, can you allow it to exist without trying to harm it?

History tells us no... because for a long time now, anything different was always feared and killed off.

Too few of us put ourselves in the line of fire to help those different from us all the time. We stay quiet and let shit happen around us.

God rest his beautiful soul... may he be granted justice and peace.

paintedlady said:

I am beginning to really fear that people in general NEED something to hate and look down on to feel better about their own miserable lives.

Not all of us kill, but many of us taunt, belittle, bully, and go to extremes to make someone feel bad who is NOT like ourselves.

Before it was skin color... now its sexuality... what's next? If you are a fat kid will you be butchered?

If you are too pretty? Too ugly? Too tall/short/thin/rich or poor?

Can you love something foreign to you? If something is different from what you know or been taught, can you allow it to exist without trying to harm it?

History tells us no... because for a long time now, anything different was always feared and killed off.

Too few of us put ourselves in the line of fire to help those different from us all the time. We stay quiet and let shit happen around us.

God rest his beautiful soul... may he be granted justice and peace.

Amen.

paintedlady said:

I am beginning to really fear that people in general NEED something to hate and look down on to feel better about their own miserable lives.

Not all of us kill, but many of us taunt, belittle, bully, and go to extremes to make someone feel bad who is NOT like ourselves.

Before it was skin color... now its sexuality... what's next? If you are a fat kid will you be butchered?

If you are too pretty? Too ugly? Too tall/short/thin/rich or poor?

Can you love something foreign to you? If something is different from what you know or been taught, can you allow it to exist without trying to harm it?

History tells us no... because for a long time now, anything different was always feared and killed off.

Too few of us put ourselves in the line of fire to help those different from us all the time. We stay quiet and let shit happen around us.

God rest his beautiful soul... may he be granted justice and peace.

^That sums it all up for me.

I didn't and wont watch the video.

funkmunki said:

Personally i think this thread should be deleted. It's clearly upsetting for all concerned. What if one of your children clicked on this link while you went for a piss.

Don't go there...delete this horrible thread MODS...

But it's real.

I'm actually shaking here and couldn't watch eveything, but it's happening in our world. The poor man died, why should we look away?

Maybe a video like this will bring a change.

robertlove said:

funkmunki said:

Personally i think this thread should be deleted. It's clearly upsetting for all concerned. What if one of your children clicked on this link while you went for a piss.

Don't go there...delete this horrible thread MODS...

But it's real.

I'm actually shaking here and couldn't watch eveything, but it's happening in our world. The poor man died, why should we look away?

Maybe a video like this will bring a change.

At some point, you have to draw the line. There are countless videos like this and countless other kinds of videos (like the It Gets Better video posted by the teen who just asphyxiated himself a week or so ago).

It's not about turning a blind eye. It's about the fact that inundating yourself with these images DOES NOT provide more or better understanding. It provides even more fear.

ufoclub said:

JoeTyler said:

do we really want this thread to be jacked??

no seriously, there's no actual information on the link. And normally in South Africa they mob execute people they consider criminals like murderers and such. Is there anything in the video (I just can't watch it all the way through! But I saw the beginning and end) or any related article type about the context of this torture/execution? I'm not falling to mob mentality myself and trusting a 4th party headline in a thread or posted video. I just want to know if there is any legitimate context to this.

I agree with this post. there is no evidence that the man was being tortured for being homosexual. they burn people alive in some parts of Africa for something as little as stealing Potatoes.

Deadflow3r said:

connorhawke said:

To JoeTyler:

What are you telling me to "shut the fuck up" for?

Firstly, this thread doesn't "proves that there are still gay people being humiliated/tortured and-or killed". It proves nothing apart from a man was tortured to death.

I agree with you that nobody should forget that people are tortured and killed for their sexuality. My thoughts on this are not in doubt. But before you swear at me again, go back and read my post PROPERLY. You'll see that I was objecting to the video being posted and specifically POSTED WITHOUT COMMENT. This isn't political or making a statement unless a point in being made. And it wasn't. Without the point it could easily be construed as sick voyeurism.

And before you have a further go or others like Kooleaze "co-sign" you for shitting on my post again, let me put this is context.

I'm objecting to this because nothing is clearly stated and the original poster has only now amended the video to provide some sort of explanation or reason for posting something so horrible.

ed unconAnd If you think I don't "get it", I'm a gay man who once was beaten within an inch of his life by six men and hurlscious in front of a passing train. I'm lucky to be alive.

Thank you Pr1ncequik for amending the original post.

Thank you for sharing this. I don't think that everyone understands just how much some people really do get it. You don't need to go to a third world country to be in unsafe territory if your a gay man. It happens everywhere. One of the things I HATE about people thinking of all the terrible things happening in the Middle East and in Africa is that these highlights make it seem as if we Americans and Westerners are so much more evolved and humane than the rest of the world, and that is absolutely not the case.

nobody said such a thing

and

I think the word "hate" shouldn't be used, specially in this thread...

paintedlady said:

scatwoman said:

Fuck your gods and fuck your religions as all they do is fuck humanity.

I can honestly say... God has NOTHING to do with man's hatred and fear.

People use excuses for their hatred... so they use the excuse of "a god/religion/a belief" to condone or justify their hatred.

I am pretty sure if "God" couldn't be used as an excuse they would find another excuse to justify this madness.

Blah, blah, blah, homophobia is systemic in religion and most of the world's population is religious - to deny that is to deny that you have a brain

scatwoman said:

paintedlady said:

I can honestly say... God has NOTHING to do with man's hatred and fear.

People use excuses for their hatred... so they use the excuse of "a god/religion/a belief" to condone or justify their hatred.

I am pretty sure if "God" couldn't be used as an excuse they would find another excuse to justify this madness.

Blah, blah, blah, homophobia is systemic in religion and most of the world's population is religious - to deny that is to deny that you have a brain

There are thousands of species with homosexual couples.

However, there is only one species with a homophobic majority.

dJJ said:

There are thousands of species with homosexual couples.

However, there is only one species with a homophobic majority.

For such an enlightened and evolved species we fail miserably

ufoclub said:

for example, here is the same video, right?

http://www.dominicanusa.tv/watching_video/956-man-beaten-and-burned-to-death

look at the explanation here.

I googled and found this

http://www.reddit.com/r/v..._deserves/

(i assume it's the same video , couldn't bare watching the whole thing)

Someone on that forum posted this

[Edited 10/2/11 6:42am]

the cruelty and agression is still shocking. Even if it's about stealing a necklace.

dJJ said:

the cruelty and agression is still shocking. Even if it's about stealing a necklace.

Thanks dewrede for clearing this mess up, even so gays are treated like this unfortunate man in some parts of the world so the mix-up is understandable.

.

[Edited 10/2/11 7:00am]

dJJ said:

the cruelty and agression is still shocking. Even if it's about stealing a necklace.

^

Yes , truly barbaric and sickening

There's not enough words to describe it

[Edited 10/2/11 7:03am]

Dewrede said:

ufoclub said:

for example, here is the same video, right?

http://www.dominicanusa.tv/watching_video/956-man-beaten-and-burned-to-death

look at the explanation here.

I googled and found this

http://www.reddit.com/r/v..._deserves/

(i assume it's the same video , couldn't bare watching the whole thing)

Someone on that forum posted this

'This takes place in Lagos, Nigeria. It's a busy market, and he stole a necklace off of a woman's neck. This is a very common phenomenon in some Nigerian markets. Some women don't even wear jewels when they go to the market for this very reason. Back to my story. This young man snatched a necklace from a woman's neck, and although he tried to run away, he got caught. By touts. The uneducated uncultured folk that have nothing to do with their lives except gallivant the streets. In case you're wondering how I know all this, it's because I'm Nigerian.

Edit: They are speaking pidgin English in the video, and I understand every word they are saying. That's how I know what is going on.'

[Edited 10/2/11 6:42am]

Thanks for that.

scatwoman said:

dJJ said:

the cruelty and agression is still shocking. Even if it's about stealing a necklace.

Thanks dewrede for clearing this mess up, even so gays are treated like this unfortunate man in some parts of the world so the mix-up is understandable.

Yes it's really depressing to see how bad people can treat one another

All in the name of religion

[Edited 10/2/11 7:17am]

Pr1nceQuik said:

Dewrede said:

I googled and found this

http://www.reddit.com/r/v..._deserves/

(i assume it's the same video , couldn't bare watching the whole thing)

Someone on that forum posted this

'This takes place in Lagos, Nigeria. It's a busy market, and he stole a necklace off of a woman's neck. This is a very common phenomenon in some Nigerian markets. Some women don't even wear jewels when they go to the market for this very reason. Back to my story. This young man snatched a necklace from a woman's neck, and although he tried to run away, he got caught. By touts. The uneducated uncultured folk that have nothing to do with their lives except gallivant the streets. In case you're wondering how I know all this, it's because I'm Nigerian.

Edit: They are speaking pidgin English in the video, and I understand every word they are saying. That's how I know what is going on.'

[Edited 10/2/11 6:42am]

Thanks for that.

ok

I still wonder who came up with the hate crime thing though

[Edited 10/2/11 7:16am]

JoeTyler said:

Deadflow3r said:

Thank you for sharing this. I don't think that everyone understands just how much some people really do get it. You don't need to go to a third world country to be in unsafe territory if your a gay man. It happens everywhere. One of the things I HATE about people thinking of all the terrible things happening in the Middle East and in Africa is that these highlights make it seem as if we Americans and Westerners are so much more evolved and humane than the rest of the world, and that is absolutely not the case.

nobody said such a thing

and

I think the word "hate" shouldn't be used, specially in this thread...

Well if you can't hate on murder in the name of self righteousness and fear what can you hate on?

I think what almost happened here on prince.org shows how a simple mistake of misinformation can escalate into a "mob" mentality of triggered emotion. It seemed that misinterpreting horrible vigilante justice as a hate crime against a gay man was really causing emotions to flare even more.

Spinlight said:

robertlove said:

But it's real.

I'm actually shaking here and couldn't watch eveything, but it's happening in our world. The poor man died, why should we look away?

Maybe a video like this will bring a change.

At some point, you have to draw the line. There are countless videos like this and countless other kinds of videos (like the It Gets Better video posted by the teen who just asphyxiated himself a week or so ago).

It's not about turning a blind eye. It's about the fact that inundating yourself with these images DOES NOT provide more or better understanding. It provides even more fear.

+++11111

scatwoman said:

paintedlady said:

I can honestly say... God has NOTHING to do with man's hatred and fear.

People use excuses for their hatred... so they use the excuse of "a god/religion/a belief" to condone or justify their hatred.

I am pretty sure if "God" couldn't be used as an excuse they would find another excuse to justify this madness.

Blah, blah, blah, homophobia is systemic in religion and most of the world's population is religious - to deny that is to deny that you have a brain

Homophobia is systemic with all ignorant people that use religion as an excuse... this is why homophobia can be found in ALL cultures with ALL people who have different religions. You assume these people are religious?? Hah hah ha!!! They do not have to be religious to kill people, ignorant atheists/agnostics that are homophobic will do the same. So please do not think ONLY religious people are capable of hatred like this.

But you go right on and allow these people to use God as an excuse... I won't.

ufoclub said:

I think what almost happened here on prince.org shows how a simple mistake of misinformation can escalate into a "mob" mentality of triggered emotion. It seemed that misinterpreting horrible vigilante justice as a hate crime against a gay man was really causing emotions to flare even more.

WE are too eager to judge others, and that is just as bad... hatred on boths sides is never good.

This is heartbreaking and discouraging to watch...

Very disturbing very upsetting eye only made it to 2mins 20 secs....Eye realy do hate this fucking world......

[Edited 10/2/11 17:24pm]

Dewrede said:

makes me sick to my stomach

why did i watch that

can't help but cry

NSFW doesn't even begin to discribe the horrifying sickening shit i just watched

I suggest you edit the description

[Edited 10/1/11 9:34am]

Please report 2 my thread about crying......