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Reply #150 posted 10/08/11 4:22am

Deadflow3r

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SeventeenDayze said:

Deadflow3r said:

I followed the stereotype there. My weed -smoking- non- working- loveable- man came into my life when I was 38 and feared that I would never have a baby. He was 28 and he wanted a baby too. I hate admitting how pathetic I was. But part of me knew he was all wrong but I felt I could not wait egg-wise much longer for Mr. Right. I got pregnant at 39 and had my daughter at 40. I left him one month and 4 days after she was born.

He basically got free room and board while I was pregnant while I worked 2 jobs. The reason he got to stay was that I was afraid of being home alone at night, my family so far away, and something going very wrong. So, once the baby was out of my tummy, I headed back to the city I grew up in and hated.

Is there a moral to this story? I am not sure. I just got really desperate in the end. Had I not wanted a baby I think that man would have been gone after 2 months max.

Hey don't feel bad and my earlier comments weren't aimed at women who were in your type of situation. At least you moved on with your life and didn't force the guy to have a family that he never really wanted in the first place....

He wanted more kids. His smoking drinking buddy advised it. The reason is obvious, with each child the woman finds it more difficult to leave. She goes to work, she gets free childcare because she says that she isn't with him any longer so welfare helps pay for that so that she can keep working. Now he puts the kids on the childcare bus at around 8am. Nobody reports that it is a he and not a she that puts the children on the bus to headstart or where ever. Now he is home to greet the bus and she doesn't even need to come home she can just go on to her next job. Mr House husband sits the kids infront of a TV all the time that he is watching them and he smokes and drinks or maybe deals some dope to. The guy layed it all out for my daughter's father. How I should fill out forms etc. The important thing was to get me to have another baby. eek I felt like Alice in Wonderland falling deeper and deeper into a hole.

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Reply #151 posted 10/08/11 4:29am

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Deadflow3r said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Hey don't feel bad and my earlier comments weren't aimed at women who were in your type of situation. At least you moved on with your life and didn't force the guy to have a family that he never really wanted in the first place....

He wanted more kids. His smoking drinking buddy advised it. The reason is obvious, with each child the woman finds it more difficult to leave. She goes to work, she gets free childcare because she says that she isn't with him any longer so welfare helps pay for that so that she can keep working. Now he puts the kids on the childcare bus at around 8am. Nobody reports that it is a he and not a she that puts the children on the bus to headstart or where ever. Now he is home to greet the bus and she doesn't even need to come home she can just go on to her next job. Mr House husband sits the kids infront of a TV all the time that he is watching them and he smokes and drinks or maybe deals some dope to. The guy layed it all out for my daughter's father. How I should fill out forms etc. The important thing was to get me to have another baby. eek I felt like Alice in Wonderland falling deeper and deeper into a hole.

sad thats so sad!!! its aweful what some men do 2 their women, just so that can b happy!!!

i am glad u r no longer in this situation hug

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Reply #152 posted 10/08/11 5:12am

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whofarted

Uhm...how exactly did this turn into a man-bashing-fest??? confuse

lol

I think that Hotgritz touched on some important points.

IMO, there are plenty of guys out there who want committment/marriage/long-term relationships.

But odds are, they ain't the ones with the dimples, fast cars and Billy-Dee voice (man I just "dated" myself) who can charm the pants off of you.

There was an interesting discussion on the radio this morning, about whether or not women are less willing to "settle" than men. The general thought was that women want "the whole package" for that "ideal man" and either don't marry until they find Mr. Right or marry Mr. Almost-right and try to CHANGE him.

I dunno. I think we men are much simpler. There are the players that got game and enjoy it, and the non-players who are either tired of the game or are just not interested in playing and want that house with the picket fence and 2.5 kids.

These past few months as I've opened up to my buddies (a handful of which I can truly call a "buddy") I can recognize the ones who are good at what they do - they are always on the hunt, usually successful, and not at all interested in doing the "family thing"...and the ones who are either older/mature and done with the game or never had any - and amazingly they're the ones with the "women problems". Disproportionally it seems to me that THEY get shit on and nagged to death about all the shortcomings or things they're NOT doing. They're the ones going to therapy. Meanwhile, the players don't mess around, they start to get shit and they move on. It's about the sex. It's about having fun. It's about THEM. And amazingly their phones never stop ringing.

shrug

I dunno...that's just what I'm seeing now. It's why I keep revisting the "nice guy" theory. Obviously we can't stereotype nor paint with such a wide brush...but there it is.

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Reply #153 posted 10/08/11 7:40am

SeventeenDayze

PurpleJedi said:

whofarted

Uhm...how exactly did this turn into a man-bashing-fest??? confuse

lol

I think that Hotgritz touched on some important points.

IMO, there are plenty of guys out there who want committment/marriage/long-term relationships.

But odds are, they ain't the ones with the dimples, fast cars and Billy-Dee voice (man I just "dated" myself) who can charm the pants off of you.

There was an interesting discussion on the radio this morning, about whether or not women are less willing to "settle" than men. The general thought was that women want "the whole package" for that "ideal man" and either don't marry until they find Mr. Right or marry Mr. Almost-right and try to CHANGE him.

I dunno. I think we men are much simpler. There are the players that got game and enjoy it, and the non-players who are either tired of the game or are just not interested in playing and want that house with the picket fence and 2.5 kids.

These past few months as I've opened up to my buddies (a handful of which I can truly call a "buddy") I can recognize the ones who are good at what they do - they are always on the hunt, usually successful, and not at all interested in doing the "family thing"...and the ones who are either older/mature and done with the game or never had any - and amazingly they're the ones with the "women problems". Disproportionally it seems to me that THEY get shit on and nagged to death about all the shortcomings or things they're NOT doing. They're the ones going to therapy. Meanwhile, the players don't mess around, they start to get shit and they move on. It's about the sex. It's about having fun. It's about THEM. And amazingly their phones never stop ringing.

shrug

I dunno...that's just what I'm seeing now. It's why I keep revisting the "nice guy" theory. Obviously we can't stereotype nor paint with such a wide brush...but there it is.

How is it man-bashing when I'm recalling things/observations/etc that have actually happened to me? I've given the nerdy, reject, not-so-handsome guys a chance and guess what happened, they (tried but failed) to treat me WORSE than the good-looking guys ever did. I even had one dude make backhanded racist statements to me (that for the sake of keeping this thread on topic I will not go into) but he was not at all a hot looking guy, but I never made him feel bad about himself as he tried to do with me and making a racist statement in the process. In a nutshell, he tried to say that I really didn't seem "very black looking" and said it in a way he thought it would be a compliment? He never set foot here again after that...so, I've given plenty of below-average looks/achievements guys a chance and they were WORSE, much worse...

I think some men enjoy dramatic, demanding women as others have mentioned earlier. They are usually foolish women who give the guy excitement. Some guys just like being treated badly and a nice woman scares them....

I for one am NOT trying to meet a guy and change him. I don't like players and if they try to use their tired reverse psychology and call me "serious" or whatever I just keep moving because why waste time on a guy that wants to play mind games like its Degrassi High up in this joint? lol

thanks biggrin

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Reply #154 posted 10/08/11 11:43am

alphastreet

And some guys who do want to settle down want it right away when they barely know you. I don't find that sweet, I find it very fishy and desperate. They think it gives them validation that they are not a failure to themselves and those around them, but do not realize the logic women may present in that not working out if she has the intelligence to know that does not always work out if things aren't perfect from the start and he just wants sex. If someone really loves you, they take the time to know you, and not pressure you IMO.

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Reply #155 posted 10/08/11 11:45am

iloveannie

I've been married for 16 years now. You have every right to be afraid.

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Reply #156 posted 10/08/11 2:26pm

SeventeenDayze

alphastreet said:

And some guys who do want to settle down want it right away when they barely know you. I don't find that sweet, I find it very fishy and desperate. They think it gives them validation that they are not a failure to themselves and those around them, but do not realize the logic women may present in that not working out if she has the intelligence to know that does not always work out if things aren't perfect from the start and he just wants sex. If someone really loves you, they take the time to know you, and not pressure you IMO.

You ain't neva lied! Case and point...about a month or so ago I went out with a guy who on the FIRST DATE told me that he wants a wife and kids, etc. To add insult to injury, this guy was throwing the most generic compliments to me and it was real phony. He also told me his age (he was about 16 years older than me) and to me it seemed like he was really a closet case looking for a cover. I mean, not because of his age but it was because of his mannerisms and my gut instinct that told me, "Watch out or in 20 years you'll be on a daytime talk show crying about how you should have listened to yourself when you felt like the dude was really a closet case from day one" LOL

Yeah, I also felt like he was always trying to assert he was "smarter than me" all the time by correcting me on stupid, trivial things during coversation. Just my opinion but it seemed like he would have been extremely controlling, I mean damn if you can't let a few "wrong" facts from me slip will you bust me up side the head if dinner aint hot enough?

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Reply #157 posted 10/08/11 3:33pm

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PurpleJedi said:

whofarted

Uhm...how exactly did this turn into a man-bashing-fest??? confuse

lol

I think that Hotgritz touched on some important points.

IMO, there are plenty of guys out there who want committment/marriage/long-term relationships.

But odds are, they ain't the ones with the dimples, fast cars and Billy-Dee voice (man I just "dated" myself) who can charm the pants off of you.

There was an interesting discussion on the radio this morning, about whether or not women are less willing to "settle" than men. The general thought was that women want "the whole package" for that "ideal man" and either don't marry until they find Mr. Right or marry Mr. Almost-right and try to CHANGE him.

I dunno. I think we men are much simpler. There are the players that got game and enjoy it, and the non-players who are either tired of the game or are just not interested in playing and want that house with the picket fence and 2.5 kids.

These past few months as I've opened up to my buddies (a handful of which I can truly call a "buddy") I can recognize the ones who are good at what they do - they are always on the hunt, usually successful, and not at all interested in doing the "family thing"...and the ones who are either older/mature and done with the game or never had any - and amazingly they're the ones with the "women problems". Disproportionally it seems to me that THEY get shit on and nagged to death about all the shortcomings or things they're NOT doing. They're the ones going to therapy. Meanwhile, the players don't mess around, they start to get shit and they move on. It's about the sex. It's about having fun. It's about THEM. And amazingly their phones never stop ringing.

shrug

I dunno...that's just what I'm seeing now. It's why I keep revisting the "nice guy" theory. Obviously we can't stereotype nor paint with such a wide brush...but there it is.

The thread title doesn't mention women.

It became all about "women" not wanting commitment and why because basically men stayed off the thread until you showed up around page 6. So there was no balance because there was no imput.

I just talk of my own limited life. I was waiting for Mr Right and then I panicked because he wasn't within sight and got involved with Mr I-can-smell-desperate-a-mile-away. I think if you begin to lower your standards there are people that can smell that.

I have a feeling it could also work in reverse. If you are smelling of desperation there are women that see that as a positive. They can manipulate that for their own gain.

There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin.
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Reply #158 posted 10/08/11 3:34pm

PurpleJedi

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SeventeenDayze said:

PurpleJedi said:

whofarted

Uhm...how exactly did this turn into a man-bashing-fest??? confuse

lol

I think that Hotgritz touched on some important points.

IMO, there are plenty of guys out there who want committment/marriage/long-term relationships.

But odds are, they ain't the ones with the dimples, fast cars and Billy-Dee voice (man I just "dated" myself) who can charm the pants off of you.

There was an interesting discussion on the radio this morning, about whether or not women are less willing to "settle" than men. The general thought was that women want "the whole package" for that "ideal man" and either don't marry until they find Mr. Right or marry Mr. Almost-right and try to CHANGE him.

I dunno. I think we men are much simpler. There are the players that got game and enjoy it, and the non-players who are either tired of the game or are just not interested in playing and want that house with the picket fence and 2.5 kids.

These past few months as I've opened up to my buddies (a handful of which I can truly call a "buddy") I can recognize the ones who are good at what they do - they are always on the hunt, usually successful, and not at all interested in doing the "family thing"...and the ones who are either older/mature and done with the game or never had any - and amazingly they're the ones with the "women problems". Disproportionally it seems to me that THEY get shit on and nagged to death about all the shortcomings or things they're NOT doing. They're the ones going to therapy. Meanwhile, the players don't mess around, they start to get shit and they move on. It's about the sex. It's about having fun. It's about THEM. And amazingly their phones never stop ringing.

shrug

I dunno...that's just what I'm seeing now. It's why I keep revisting the "nice guy" theory. Obviously we can't stereotype nor paint with such a wide brush...but there it is.

How is it man-bashing when I'm recalling things/observations/etc that have actually happened to me? I've given the nerdy, reject, not-so-handsome guys a chance and guess what happened, they (tried but failed) to treat me WORSE than the good-looking guys ever did. I even had one dude make backhanded racist statements to me (that for the sake of keeping this thread on topic I will not go into) but he was not at all a hot looking guy, but I never made him feel bad about himself as he tried to do with me and making a racist statement in the process. In a nutshell, he tried to say that I really didn't seem "very black looking" and said it in a way he thought it would be a compliment? He never set foot here again after that...so, I've given plenty of below-average looks/achievements guys a chance and they were WORSE, much worse...

I think some men enjoy dramatic, demanding women as others have mentioned earlier. They are usually foolish women who give the guy excitement. Some guys just like being treated badly and a nice woman scares them....

I for one am NOT trying to meet a guy and change him. I don't like players and if they try to use their tired reverse psychology and call me "serious" or whatever I just keep moving because why waste time on a guy that wants to play mind games like its Degrassi High up in this joint? lol

thanks biggrin

hmmm

So it's your experience that average or below-average dudes treat you worse than the "lookers"???

That's fascinating. Like I said you can't paint with such a wide brush because I guess you never know what else is out there. I would venture to guess that maybe those gents were overcompensating for their insecurities??? Maybe instead of being the perennial nice guy they tried to be that which they are not??? Maybe??? (Did you see my "Nice Guy" thread?)

Like I said, my experience right now - being on the outside looking in - is different.

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Reply #159 posted 10/08/11 3:36pm

PurpleJedi

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Deadflow3r said:

PurpleJedi said:

whofarted

Uhm...how exactly did this turn into a man-bashing-fest??? confuse

lol

I think that Hotgritz touched on some important points.

IMO, there are plenty of guys out there who want committment/marriage/long-term relationships.

But odds are, they ain't the ones with the dimples, fast cars and Billy-Dee voice (man I just "dated" myself) who can charm the pants off of you.

There was an interesting discussion on the radio this morning, about whether or not women are less willing to "settle" than men. The general thought was that women want "the whole package" for that "ideal man" and either don't marry until they find Mr. Right or marry Mr. Almost-right and try to CHANGE him.

I dunno. I think we men are much simpler. There are the players that got game and enjoy it, and the non-players who are either tired of the game or are just not interested in playing and want that house with the picket fence and 2.5 kids.

These past few months as I've opened up to my buddies (a handful of which I can truly call a "buddy") I can recognize the ones who are good at what they do - they are always on the hunt, usually successful, and not at all interested in doing the "family thing"...and the ones who are either older/mature and done with the game or never had any - and amazingly they're the ones with the "women problems". Disproportionally it seems to me that THEY get shit on and nagged to death about all the shortcomings or things they're NOT doing. They're the ones going to therapy. Meanwhile, the players don't mess around, they start to get shit and they move on. It's about the sex. It's about having fun. It's about THEM. And amazingly their phones never stop ringing.

shrug

I dunno...that's just what I'm seeing now. It's why I keep revisting the "nice guy" theory. Obviously we can't stereotype nor paint with such a wide brush...but there it is.

The thread title doesn't mention women.

It became all about "women" not wanting commitment and why because basically men stayed off the thread until you showed up around page 6. So there was no balance because there was no imput.

I just talk of my own limited life. I was waiting for Mr Right and then I panicked because he wasn't within sight and got involved with Mr I-can-smell-desperate-a-mile-away. I think if you begin to lower your standards there are people that can smell that.

I have a feeling it could also work in reverse. If you are smelling of desperation there are women that see that as a positive. They can manipulate that for their own gain.

falloff

I didn't notice that I'm the first guy on here.

So basically I guess guys are so afraid of committment that they won't even post on this thread???

lol

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Reply #160 posted 10/08/11 3:47pm

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There was something I read in a magazine or somewhere, I just don't know. Anyway this woman who herself was O.K. for a New Yorker (probably considered more attractive somewhere else where models and actresses don't live in abundance) went home with a relatively unattractive guy. She liked him because he made her feel attractive as if he was lucky to get her to go to bed with him. He left her feeling like he was grateful and he was also good in bed.

Years later she met another woman, they both were Jewish, and this guys name came up. Seems both woman had the same thing to say about him. They realized that this guy was getting laid all the time by women. He made women feel good about themselves.

When it comes to looks women prefer to be better looking than their partner. They don't always shoot higher.

I just think that for me marriage is scary because people can represent themselves faulsely. Sometimes on purpose but sometimes because they have not taken the time to honesty get to know themselves. I think I have been guilty of this. For a long time I only knew the person I thought I should be and not the person I really was. I had not truly accepted myself yet.

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Reply #161 posted 10/08/11 3:50pm

Deadflow3r

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PurpleJedi said:

Deadflow3r said:

The thread title doesn't mention women.

It became all about "women" not wanting commitment and why because basically men stayed off the thread until you showed up around page 6. So there was no balance because there was no imput.

I just talk of my own limited life. I was waiting for Mr Right and then I panicked because he wasn't within sight and got involved with Mr I-can-smell-desperate-a-mile-away. I think if you begin to lower your standards there are people that can smell that.

I have a feeling it could also work in reverse. If you are smelling of desperation there are women that see that as a positive. They can manipulate that for their own gain.

falloff

I didn't notice that I'm the first guy on here.

So basically I guess guys are so afraid of committment that they won't even post on this thread???

lol

I just looked again. Davetherave and Militant are on pages one and two. Joe Tyler is on page 3 but at some point it turns into an all girl party and that took it to a new direction.

There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin.
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Reply #162 posted 10/11/11 7:28pm

dJJ

PurpleJedi said:

whofarted

Uhm...how exactly did this turn into a man-bashing-fest??? confuse

lol

I think that Hotgritz touched on some important points.

IMO, there are plenty of guys out there who want committment/marriage/long-term relationships.

But odds are, they ain't the ones with the dimples, fast cars and Billy-Dee voice (man I just "dated" myself) who can charm the pants off of you.

There was an interesting discussion on the radio this morning, about whether or not women are less willing to "settle" than men. The general thought was that women want "the whole package" for that "ideal man" and either don't marry until they find Mr. Right or marry Mr. Almost-right and try to CHANGE him.

I dunno. I think we men are much simpler. There are the players that got game and enjoy it, and the non-players who are either tired of the game or are just not interested in playing and want that house with the picket fence and 2.5 kids.

These past few months as I've opened up to my buddies (a handful of which I can truly call a "buddy") I can recognize the ones who are good at what they do - they are always on the hunt, usually successful, and not at all interested in doing the "family thing"...and the ones who are either older/mature and done with the game or never had any - and amazingly they're the ones with the "women problems". Disproportionally it seems to me that THEY get shit on and nagged to death about all the shortcomings or things they're NOT doing. They're the ones going to therapy. Meanwhile, the players don't mess around, they start to get shit and they move on. It's about the sex. It's about having fun. It's about THEM. And amazingly their phones never stop ringing.

shrug

I dunno...that's just what I'm seeing now. It's why I keep revisting the "nice guy" theory. Obviously we can't stereotype nor paint with such a wide brush...but there it is.

It's not that girls want the guys who treat the horrible. It's the player who's out there, so meets more girls, and plays a trick on them, hence has them calling them. He makes them believe he's a great guy to be with. THat's the trick. That's why they call him. Later on they find out, it was just about the sex. And start to hate men.

In the meanwhile, the nice guys have a conscience and are truly working on a relationship. And therefore themselves. Because that's needed in order to stay in a relationship. The same goes for women. It may seem like the tougher road to go. And maybe it is.

However, everybody with a conscience and a set of good morals and values, isn't able to become a player. Because that is all about lying and cheating to women.

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Reply #163 posted 10/14/11 3:27am

SeventeenDayze

dJJ said:

PurpleJedi said:

whofarted

Uhm...how exactly did this turn into a man-bashing-fest??? confuse

lol

I think that Hotgritz touched on some important points.

IMO, there are plenty of guys out there who want committment/marriage/long-term relationships.

But odds are, they ain't the ones with the dimples, fast cars and Billy-Dee voice (man I just "dated" myself) who can charm the pants off of you.

There was an interesting discussion on the radio this morning, about whether or not women are less willing to "settle" than men. The general thought was that women want "the whole package" for that "ideal man" and either don't marry until they find Mr. Right or marry Mr. Almost-right and try to CHANGE him.

I dunno. I think we men are much simpler. There are the players that got game and enjoy it, and the non-players who are either tired of the game or are just not interested in playing and want that house with the picket fence and 2.5 kids.

These past few months as I've opened up to my buddies (a handful of which I can truly call a "buddy") I can recognize the ones who are good at what they do - they are always on the hunt, usually successful, and not at all interested in doing the "family thing"...and the ones who are either older/mature and done with the game or never had any - and amazingly they're the ones with the "women problems". Disproportionally it seems to me that THEY get shit on and nagged to death about all the shortcomings or things they're NOT doing. They're the ones going to therapy. Meanwhile, the players don't mess around, they start to get shit and they move on. It's about the sex. It's about having fun. It's about THEM. And amazingly their phones never stop ringing.

shrug

I dunno...that's just what I'm seeing now. It's why I keep revisting the "nice guy" theory. Obviously we can't stereotype nor paint with such a wide brush...but there it is.

It's not that girls want the guys who treat the horrible. It's the player who's out there, so meets more girls, and plays a trick on them, hence has them calling them. He makes them believe he's a great guy to be with. THat's the trick. That's why they call him. Later on they find out, it was just about the sex. And start to hate men.

In the meanwhile, the nice guys have a conscience and are truly working on a relationship. And therefore themselves. Because that's needed in order to stay in a relationship. The same goes for women. It may seem like the tougher road to go. And maybe it is.

However, everybody with a conscience and a set of good morals and values, isn't able to become a player. Because that is all about lying and cheating to women.

Had a convo with a guy the other day who told me most of his buddies have a main girl and also a side girl that they sleep with who gives THEM (meaning the guy) money. So, I think that's a big reason why I think I won't waste my time thinking that there's anything remotely close to a decent guy over 30 who is straight, not incarcerated or whatever. I dunno, just seems like it's hard to be a woman with values who's not easy when there are so many women accepting 2nd best and then PAYING THE GUYS for it. WTF ever

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Reply #164 posted 10/14/11 5:28am

alphastreet

SeventeenDayze said:

alphastreet said:

And some guys who do want to settle down want it right away when they barely know you. I don't find that sweet, I find it very fishy and desperate. They think it gives them validation that they are not a failure to themselves and those around them, but do not realize the logic women may present in that not working out if she has the intelligence to know that does not always work out if things aren't perfect from the start and he just wants sex. If someone really loves you, they take the time to know you, and not pressure you IMO.

You ain't neva lied! Case and point...about a month or so ago I went out with a guy who on the FIRST DATE told me that he wants a wife and kids, etc. To add insult to injury, this guy was throwing the most generic compliments to me and it was real phony. He also told me his age (he was about 16 years older than me) and to me it seemed like he was really a closet case looking for a cover. I mean, not because of his age but it was because of his mannerisms and my gut instinct that told me, "Watch out or in 20 years you'll be on a daytime talk show crying about how you should have listened to yourself when you felt like the dude was really a closet case from day one" LOL

Yeah, I also felt like he was always trying to assert he was "smarter than me" all the time by correcting me on stupid, trivial things during coversation. Just my opinion but it seemed like he would have been extremely controlling, I mean damn if you can't let a few "wrong" facts from me slip will you bust me up side the head if dinner aint hot enough?

self-righteous assholes think they're god's gift to mankind, that's all lol

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Reply #165 posted 10/15/11 3:37am

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alphastreet said:

SeventeenDayze said:

You ain't neva lied! Case and point...about a month or so ago I went out with a guy who on the FIRST DATE told me that he wants a wife and kids, etc. To add insult to injury, this guy was throwing the most generic compliments to me and it was real phony. He also told me his age (he was about 16 years older than me) and to me it seemed like he was really a closet case looking for a cover. I mean, not because of his age but it was because of his mannerisms and my gut instinct that told me, "Watch out or in 20 years you'll be on a daytime talk show crying about how you should have listened to yourself when you felt like the dude was really a closet case from day one" LOL

Yeah, I also felt like he was always trying to assert he was "smarter than me" all the time by correcting me on stupid, trivial things during coversation. Just my opinion but it seemed like he would have been extremely controlling, I mean damn if you can't let a few "wrong" facts from me slip will you bust me up side the head if dinner aint hot enough?

self-righteous assholes think they're god's gift to mankind, that's all lol

Had a convo with a friend girl today who said our other friend girl couldn't hang out today because she got paid and was going to take her boyfriend out. Women, PLEASE STOP paying guys for sex (because that's essentially what you're doing when he hustles you like that).

I think I will be single probably for eternity because I refuse to compete with women who give a guy money and other things just to say they have a boyfriend. Am I old fashioned or is this just total lunacy what's evolved lately? Being a decent woman has never had such little value on the market in all history! lol

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Reply #166 posted 10/15/11 8:08am

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I hate how expensive relationships get, period. I didn't think of it as a trade off but I guess it is. It's mote important to be responsible with money though maybe she spends a lot already


And I hate hormones! Ugh! I always kept dignity and felt old fashioned too and relieved for it, but nearly lost it and did stupid things for awhile though there was mysogynistic behaviour involved too and now I get it more than before. I always had my guard up and looked down on others too before, but I was vulnerable and lied to.
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Reply #167 posted 10/15/11 2:36pm

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Wow, an eye-opening thread. That arranged marriage route might have been the way to go, after all...

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Reply #168 posted 10/15/11 5:43pm

alphastreet

I really hate the idea of arranged marriages if there is no chemistry from the start, and see it as control, but for those who feel sexually repressed it may be a bit of a blessing in disguise haha
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Reply #169 posted 10/16/11 4:43am

SeventeenDayze

I think I have finally reached a point where I am okay living outside of that perfect "dream" of a husband, house, white picket fense, 2 kids and the perfect dogs living in a random suburb. It just seems like that era is gone I guess, but I always seemed to get physically ill at the thought of living that way...

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Reply #170 posted 10/16/11 4:47am

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I used to think about stuff like that before my mid 20's, but it slowly faded over time though I would enjoy weddings, but it ended there. Though I'm fine being single, I feel sad a lot of times too like I want to fill a void and tend to form attachments to people from afar I can never have, and I think maybe that's why I feel this way too. But I have trust issues with all people and don't want to commit and feel restricted, so I know I'm better off being on my own and just having positive people around me, and a pet.

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Reply #171 posted 10/16/11 4:49am

SeventeenDayze

alphastreet said:

I used to think about stuff like that before my mid 20's, but it slowly faded over time though I would enjoy weddings, but it ended there. Though I'm fine being single, I feel sad a lot of times too like I want to fill a void and tend to form attachments to people from afar I can never have, and I think maybe that's why I feel this way too. But I have trust issues with all people and don't want to commit and feel restricted, so I know I'm better off being on my own and just having positive people around me, and a pet.

Trust me, I know exactly how you feel and that's why I have a dog and just live in a crowded city, you never feel alone, LOL!

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Reply #172 posted 10/16/11 5:10am

alphastreet

Being in a city is the best for sure smile

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Reply #173 posted 10/16/11 5:28am

SeventeenDayze

alphastreet said:

Being in a city is the best for sure smile

Yeah for sure! I can always just drool over pics of Pres Obama in the meantime, he's so hot!!!!!!!

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Reply #174 posted 10/16/11 5:49am

alphastreet

Yeah I'm a fangirl at 28, but it's gotten too painful and I have to readjust it. And not to sound like it's TMI but sometimes I feel so repressed and though I've managed for years fine, now it's too much though I think it has to do with my hormones and manic episodes.

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Reply #175 posted 10/16/11 4:04pm

SeventeenDayze

alphastreet said:

Yeah I'm a fangirl at 28, but it's gotten too painful and I have to readjust it. And not to sound like it's TMI but sometimes I feel so repressed and though I've managed for years fine, now it's too much though I think it has to do with my hormones and manic episodes.

Try not to worry about it too much. The best thing is to stay busy and don't let your standards sink low. I've seen too many situations where a nice girl will settle for just any ol' type of guy just because she doesn't want to be alone. Then later, she wishes she never met the guy. Just choose wisely and live your life to the fullest, seriously. It's better to be alone than in bad company.

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Reply #176 posted 10/16/11 4:08pm

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I never understood girls who did that, but found myself in that situation and it didn't help that I was manipulated into thinking no one else would understand the situation bothering me then cause he allegedly was also upset by it but now I realize it was exaggerated and though I could see how fake, I didn't go with my gut
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