L4OATheOriginal said:

JerseyKRS said:

OMG, the additional wild card with a one game playoff between them to go to the playoffs?

I don't care one bit about creating state rivalrys. There are only a few that are worth a damn, and they only exist because of history. Just playing each other doesn't mean shit. Ask the crowds at the Marlins/Rays games.

While we're at it, can we please get rid of interleague play already? It's a fucking waste. Play more games in division. Another brainchild of commisioner bad hair Selig.

it's already 18-19 games within a division already. u would want more? imo it's over kill already and not every team is a rivalry but ones could be created if they see more of the other teams

I'm TOTALLY for more divisional games. You see how much they mattered at the end of this season, right?

NLDS Game 5: MIL 3, ARI 2 (10 innings)

W: John Axford (1-0)

L: J.J. Putz (0-1)

Milwaukee wins series 3-2, advances to National League Championship Series.

thekidsgirl said:

sextonseven said:

I seriously had a dream last night that Posada gave a post game interview and cried. Even though I only watched the first three innings of the game (I was at the Aterciopelados show at Highline Ballroom), it was clearly on my mind when I went to bed later that night.

did you wake up bawling, or did you just shed a single tear??

Posada was crying because it was his last game as a Yankee. Pay attention to the conversation!

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728huey said:

NLDS Game 5: MIL 3, ARI 2 (10 innings)

W: John Axford (1-0)

L: J.J. Putz (0-1)

Milwaukee wins series 3-2, advances to National League Championship Series.

T-Plush Nation Baby!

JerseyKRS said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

it's already 18-19 games within a division already. u would want more? imo it's over kill already and not every team is a rivalry but ones could be created if they see more of the other teams

I'm TOTALLY for more divisional games. You see how much they mattered at the end of this season, right?

I can't believe you want the Yanks and Sox to actually play MORE games. These are important, but I don't see how playing more of them would make anything clearer at the end of the season.

The Yanks won the AL East and the Sox didn't even make the playoffs - although the Sox won at least 11 of the games between them. Correct me if I am wrong. I stopped counting after a certain point. Where's the benefit in these two teams meeting more???

And these two teams don't know how to play 3 hour games. They're always 4 to 4.30 hours long. That's crazy!!!

OH, CONGRATS TO THE BREW CREW!!!!

-

NLDS Game 5: STL 1, PHI 0

W: Chris Carpenter (1-0)

L: Roy Halladay (1-1)

St. Louis wins series 3-2, advances to the National League Championship Series on October 9, 2011.

National League Championship Series, Game 1, October 9, 2011

St. Louis Cardinals @ Milwaukee Brewers, 4:00 pm EST (TBS)

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Wow, the major story of the postseason so far is no longer the Yanks losing in the first round, but the Phils!

sextonseven said:

Wow, the major story of the postseason so far is no longer the Yanks losing in the first round, but the Phils!

the phillies . what can i say .

i was so hoping for a phillies brewers matchup ...

and or a phillies tigers world series ...

but noooooo

that series makes u think so many thoughts . first off - if Howard is out for next year - could that propel JOhn Mayberry JR into a full time first basemen ?

2. will they re sign roy oswalt .

3 . they could have just lost one game with atlanta and - - - then not have to face St louis . oops . thats not how you play the game hehe

4. why do we watch 162 games and pay 60 dollars a ticket etc .... to see the season ... when u just lost in the first round !!!! damn it ! ! ! !

hehe i am delerious .

baseball is so humbling.

JerseyKRS said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

it's already 18-19 games within a division already. u would want more? imo it's over kill already and not every team is a rivalry but ones could be created if they see more of the other teams

I'm TOTALLY for more divisional games. You see how much they mattered at the end of this season, right?

yes they did matter at the end, and that's fine if they play divisional games at the end of the season and spread out. but still 19 times facing one team?

sextonseven said:

Wow, the major story of the postseason so far is no longer the Yanks losing in the first round, but the Phils!

here is what i'm loving about this ...pre season the phills sign cliff lee and the "experts" say the phils are going 2 the world series with this dominant pitching staff and they will all be 20 game winners...

boston signs both gonzalez and crawford and the "experts" say they are going 2 the world series

REALITY says the games need 2 be played and injuries happen which changes the whole complexion of the situation!

here's another reality check for the phillies fans ...look at the last 3 seasons of cliff lee's career:

2009 with the phillies ..LOST WS

2010 with the texas rangers ....LOST WS

2011 with the phillies ...don't even make the WS

makes u think huh?

but ..give me roy halladay tho, i do feel bad for him cause he's a fucking work horse!

but now that the LCS are set, u know FOX network is PISSED! lol

I've been saying for years....as good as Lee is........he hasn't won shit.

Today's games and starting pitchers:

AL CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES:

TEXAS RANGERS VS. DETROIT TIGERS

Game 1: Detroit (Justin Verlander, 1-0) at Texas (C.J. Wilson, 0-1), 8:05 p.m.

L4OATheOriginal said:

sextonseven said:

Wow, the major story of the postseason so far is no longer the Yanks losing in the first round, but the Phils!

here is what i'm loving about this ...pre season the phills sign cliff lee and the "experts" say the phils are going 2 the world series with this dominant pitching staff and they will all be 20 game winners...

boston signs both gonzalez and crawford and the "experts" say they are going 2 the world series

I was one of those people that expected a Phillies - Red Sox world series at the beginning of the season: http://prince.org/msg/100/348813 First post

SavonOsco said:

Many of people up here in Philly (myself included) were saying that if the Phillies lose it would be 1-0 and sure enough..., The Cards is one of the few teams that had a winning record against the Phils.. The Phils aren't discipline at the plate..so they will swing a junk pitching.... The Phils are also the oldest team in the league...time to shake it up Larussa plain and simply out managed Charlie Manuel.... Since their World Series win, they have increased every year in regular season wins but have exited the playoffs sooner...that's a head scratcher Phillies are basically like the Braves of the 90's unless major changes are made

you are the type of fan I like.

Shaolin325 said:

JerseyKRS said:

I'm TOTALLY for more divisional games. You see how much they mattered at the end of this season, right?

OH, CONGRATS TO THE BREW CREW!!!!

-

Been waiting 29 years for this!!!! The best thing that happened to the Brewers, was the Seligs leaving!!!!!!!

ALCS Game 1: TEX 3, DET 2

W: Alexi Ogando (1-0, 0.00 ERA)

L: Justin Verlander (0-1, 6.75 ERA)

do u think verlander hates the rain now?

JerseyKRS said:

for those that don't live here, the tampa bay area has been hit EXTREMELY hard by the recession. The unemployment rate in my county alone is around 17%. I am 50 minutes away from Tropicana Field. Foreclosure rate is one of the highest in the country, also. The stadium is a far drive for most people. Gas is currently $3.24 a gallon.

The media NEVER mentions any of these factors.

There are PLENTY Rays fans, they just can't go to the games the way the Rays management wishes. gas to get there, parking, ticket to the game, any kind of drink or food...it all adds up to an easy $50 per person to go to a game. 82 of them. A lot of them on work nights, or even during work days.

So yeah, the trop only holds about 35-36 thousand. 28 thousand on a work night in this local economy? Not embarrassing.....just realistic considering all the factors.

wtf do I care, I'm a Yankees fan.

In my prior post I was going to mention Tampa's economy as one of the reasons for their poor attendance, but then I thought about cities like Detroit.

Detroit's unemployment rate is 12.9% while Tampa's is 11%

Yet the Tigers averaged 33,000 in attendance while the Rays were next to last with an average of 19,000

And just imagine what Tampa's attendance would be if they didn't have Red Sox fans & Yankees fans flocking to the Trop for 18 games a year. The Rays are very, very fortunate to be in the same division as New York and Boston.

SeventeenDayze said:

Also, what's so overrated about A-rod? This wasn't his best year but he's an incredible hitter when he's on....

On what?

Anabolic steroids?

HGH?

JerseyKRS said:

OMG, the additional wild card with a one game playoff between them to go to the playoffs?

I don't care one bit about creating state rivalrys. There are only a few that are worth a damn, and they only exist because of history. Just playing each other doesn't mean shit. Ask the crowds at the Marlins/Rays games.

While we're at it, can we please get rid of interleague play already? It's a fucking waste. Play more games in division. Another brainchild of commisioner bad hair Selig.

Totally with you on the adding of wildcards in each league, it's a disgusting money-driven decision.

Just think, if the second wildcard was added in each league this year we never would have had the incredible end of the regular season with Tampa, Boston, St. Louis and Atlanta. All four teams would have clinched a postseason berth early on, and all the seasonending drama wouldn't have happened.

However there's no way I'd want more divisional games, in fact I want less. 18 games a year is way too much already, and it gives teams in weaker divisions an unfair advantage in the wildcard races.

We need to go back to a balanced schedule. Every team should play every other team in the league an equal number of times. And every AL team in each division should play the same NL teams the same number of times. It ain't fair to Boston that they have to play the Phillies 3 or 6 games a year, while the Rays get the Marlins every year.

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Pokeno4Money said:

JerseyKRS said:

for those that don't live here, the tampa bay area has been hit EXTREMELY hard by the recession. The unemployment rate in my county alone is around 17%. I am 50 minutes away from Tropicana Field. Foreclosure rate is one of the highest in the country, also. The stadium is a far drive for most people. Gas is currently $3.24 a gallon.

The media NEVER mentions any of these factors.

There are PLENTY Rays fans, they just can't go to the games the way the Rays management wishes. gas to get there, parking, ticket to the game, any kind of drink or food...it all adds up to an easy $50 per person to go to a game. 82 of them. A lot of them on work nights, or even during work days.

So yeah, the trop only holds about 35-36 thousand. 28 thousand on a work night in this local economy? Not embarrassing.....just realistic considering all the factors.

wtf do I care, I'm a Yankees fan.

In my prior post I was going to mention Tampa's economy as one of the reasons for their poor attendance, but then I thought about cities like Detroit.

Detroit's unemployment rate is 12.9% while Tampa's is 11%

Yet the Tigers averaged 33,000 in attendance while the Rays were next to last with an average of 19,000

And just imagine what Tampa's attendance would be if they didn't have Red Sox fans & Yankees fans flocking to the Trop for 18 games a year. The Rays are very, very fortunate to be in the same division as New York and Boston.

Detroit is much larger than Tampa. That's not an even comparison. Also, Florida weather plays a HUGE part in this. The Rays are competing with a LARGE outdoor enjoying community.

Pokeno4Money said:

JerseyKRS said:

OMG, the additional wild card with a one game playoff between them to go to the playoffs?

I don't care one bit about creating state rivalrys. There are only a few that are worth a damn, and they only exist because of history. Just playing each other doesn't mean shit. Ask the crowds at the Marlins/Rays games.

While we're at it, can we please get rid of interleague play already? It's a fucking waste. Play more games in division. Another brainchild of commisioner bad hair Selig.

Totally with you on the adding of wildcards in each league, it's a disgusting money-driven decision.

Just think, if the second wildcard was added in each league this year we never would have had the incredible end of the regular season with Tampa, Boston, St. Louis and Atlanta. All four teams would have clinched a postseason berth early on, and all the seasonending drama wouldn't have happened.

However there's no way I'd want more divisional games, in fact I want less. 18 games a year is way too much already, and it gives teams in weaker divisions an unfair advantage in the wildcard races.

We need to go back to a balanced schedule. Every team should play every other team in the league an equal number of times. And every AL team in each division should play the same NL teams the same number of times. It ain't fair to Boston that they have to play the Phillies 3 or 6 games a year, while the Rays get the Marlins every year.

[Edited 10/9/11 8:11am]

I'd be fine with that also.

I'm okay with the unbalanced schedule the way it is. Boston had the third best record in the division against teams within the division so it seems right that they finished third.

I'm indifferent to interleague play.

Today's games and starting pitchers:

NL CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES:

MILWAUKEE BREWERS VS. ST. LOUIS CARDINALS

Game 1: St. Louis (Jaime Garcia, 0-1) at Milwaukee (Zack Greinke, 0-0), 4:05 p.m.

AL CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES:

TEXAS RANGERS VS. DETROIT TIGERS

Game 2: Detroit (Max Scherzer, 1-0) at Texas (Derek Holland, 1-0), 7:45 p.m.

NLCS Game 1: MIL 9, STL 6

W: Zack Greinke (1-0, 9.00 ERA)

L: Jaime Garcia (0-1, 13.50 ERA)

Today's games and starting pitchers:

AL CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES:

TEXAS RANGERS VS. DETROIT TIGERS

Game 2 (postponed from October 9th): Detroit (Max Scherzer, 1-0) at Texas (Derek Holland, 1-0), 4:19 p.m.

NL CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES:

MILWAUKEE BREWERS VS. ST. LOUIS CARDINALS

Game 2: St. Louis (Edwin Jackson, 1-0) at Milwaukee (Shaun Marcum, 0-1), 8:05 p.m.

ALCS Game 2: TEX 7, DET 3

W: Mike Adams (1-0, 0.00 ERA)

L: Ryan Perry (0-1, 21.60 ERA)