JerseyKRS said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

just looking ahead to next season : when boston plays tampa in tampa and carl crawford is introduced etc, do u think they will applaud him 4 dropping that ball in baltimore?

it would be nice, but these Rays fans are goodie good nicey nices.

only ray fan that is loyal is dickie V

ouch rays killed texas.... 8 to 0

ALDS Game 1: TB 9, TEX 0

W: Matt Moore (1-0, 0.00 ERA)

L: C.J. Wilson (0-1, 10.80 ERA)

Rookie Matt Moore has only appeared in three games all season for TB and completely shut down the Rangers. Yikes.

sextonseven said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Terry Francona and the Red Sox have parted ways...damn.

That's a shame. The Red Sox collapse was not his fault.

I wouldn't feel too bad for Terry Francona, though. He'll land back on his feet. In fact, my guess is that he'll be back managing the Sox next season...the White Sox. He has a history with the White Sox organization, going back to the mid-1990's when he managed their double-A affiliate the Birmingham Barons. He had the good fortune (or misfortune) to manage an exciting athlete yet very green baseball star named Michael Jordan.

Then again, if a certain other baseball team who plays in the same city as said White Sox were smart, they would snap him up immediately.

But it's still too bad that the Red Sox nation bailed out on this guy. Sure, Francona jumped ship before being pushed out, but consider that before he came around the Red Sox hadn't won a World Series in 85 years. Then he comes in and brings them two World Series titles in eight years and has them winning at least 90 games in six of the eight seasons he was there. This is a sad case of the Red Sox panicking over what happened over the last month and not looking at the whole picture.

Ah, the days of Mike Schmidt, Bake McBride, and Greg Luzinski. But they finally won in 1980 with the addition of Rose

I so remember those days well . I just saw the BULL at the stadium the other week ...

I was so into them in 76,77, and 78 (when they almost would get to the world series ...

that AFTER they won in 1980 - i was so burnt out - - - i didnt even know they were in the world series again in 1983 -against baltimore ... (didnt watch them after 1980 ... )

728huey said:

sextonseven said:

That's a shame. The Red Sox collapse was not his fault.

I wouldn't feel too bad for Terry Francona, though. He'll land back on his feet. In fact, my guess is that he'll be back managing the Sox next season...the White Sox. He has a history with the White Sox organization, going back to the mid-1990's when he managed their double-A affiliate the Birmingham Barons. He had the good fortune (or misfortune) to manage an exciting athlete yet very green baseball star named Michael Jordan.

Then again, if a certain other baseball team who plays in the same city as said White Sox were smart, they would snap him up immediately.

But it's still too bad that the Red Sox nation bailed out on this guy. Sure, Francona jumped ship before being pushed out, but consider that before he came around the Red Sox hadn't won a World Series in 85 years. Then he comes in and brings them two World Series titles in eight years and has them winning at least 90 games in six of the eight seasons he was there. This is a sad case of the Red Sox panicking over what happened over the last month and not looking at the whole picture.

Yeah, both sides should have stepped back and 'exhaled' before making a move.

Wherever Terry goes, he'll never have it as good as he did in Boston. The Red Sox front office can talk all that Yankee 'evil empire' shit all they want, but they have a $140million dollar payroll. Those cats spend money too and there's nothing wrong with that. Will Terry have that luxury with another team?

uPtoWnNY said:

728huey said:

I wouldn't feel too bad for Terry Francona, though. He'll land back on his feet. In fact, my guess is that he'll be back managing the Sox next season...the White Sox. He has a history with the White Sox organization, going back to the mid-1990's when he managed their double-A affiliate the Birmingham Barons. He had the good fortune (or misfortune) to manage an exciting athlete yet very green baseball star named Michael Jordan.

Then again, if a certain other baseball team who plays in the same city as said White Sox were smart, they would snap him up immediately.

But it's still too bad that the Red Sox nation bailed out on this guy. Sure, Francona jumped ship before being pushed out, but consider that before he came around the Red Sox hadn't won a World Series in 85 years. Then he comes in and brings them two World Series titles in eight years and has them winning at least 90 games in six of the eight seasons he was there. This is a sad case of the Red Sox panicking over what happened over the last month and not looking at the whole picture.

Yeah, both sides should have stepped back and 'exhaled' before making a move.

Wherever Terry goes, he'll never have it as good as he did in Boston. The Red Sox front office can talk all that Yankee 'evil empire' shit all they want, but they have a $140million dollar payroll. Those cats spend money too and there's nothing wrong with that. Will Terry have that luxury with another team?

Probably not. Even if he ends up on the north side of Chicago, there's a real question about which direction the franchise is going to take. The Cubs need a new GM, and depending on who they hire and his plans for the franchise, they probably will not spend a whole lot of money considering they already have massive contracts for a bunch of aging players they would like to unload. They do have a couple of young players to build around, but are they willing to spend a lot of money on a superstar free agent like Albert Pujols or Prince Fielder when teams like the Tampa Bay Rays and Arizona Diamondbacks are making the playoffs on a small payroll? Plus their attendance this season was noticeably smaller than it has been in years past, partly because the team wasn't good but mostly because of the economy.

And if he ends up in the south side of Chicago, the White Sox definitely will not be spending huge money on free agents.

Today's games and starting pitchers:

NL DIVISION SERIES:

MILWAUKEE BREWERS VS. ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS

Game 1: Arizona (Ian Kennedy, 21-4) at Milwaukee (Yovani Gallardo, 17-10), 2:07 p.m.

PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES VS. ST. LOUIS CARDINALS

Game 1: St. Louis (Kyle Lohse, 14-8) at Philadelphia (Roy Halladay, 19-6), 5:07 p.m.

AL DIVISION SERIES:

TEXAS RANGERS VS. TAMPA BAY RAYS

Game 2: Tampa Bay (James Shields, 16-12) at Texas (Derek Holland, 16-5), 7:07 p.m.

NEW YORK YANKEES VS. DETROIT TIGERS

Game 1 (continued from September 30): Detroit (Doug Fister, 11-13) at New York (Ivan Nova, 16-4), 8:37 p.m.

NLDS Game 1: MIL 4, ARI 1

W: Yovani Gallardo (1-0, 1.12 ERA)

L: Ian Kennedy (0-1, 5.40 ERA)

uPtoWnNY said:

Shaolin325 said:

Yankees fan here. Get ready to ruuuuuuummmmbbbbbbbbbbble!!!!

Tigers are no joke, and the Yankees have struggled in the first round the past several years.

I was listening to WFAN. Apparently, some in Red Sox Nation are ticked with Giradi for the way he managed last night's game. Please. Teams that clinched don't owe other teams jack shit. If the Red Sox handled their business, they'd be playing tomorrow.

Francona would have handled the situation the same way. Paplepon (not sure about the spelling) would not have pitched in that game. Sox fans need to be sore with the Sox players....period.

Although my brother sort of agrees with the Sox fans. He's afraid of the Rays. He did not want them to get into the playoffs, he would've preferred facing the Sox. We'll see if the Yanks regret letting the Rays "off the hook".....

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sextonseven said:

NLDS Game 1: MIL 4, ARI 1

W: Yovani Gallardo (1-0, 1.12 ERA)

L: Ian Kennedy (0-1, 5.40 ERA)

NLDS Game 1: PHI 11, STL 6

W: Roy Halladay (1-0, 3.38 ERA)

L: Kyle Lohse (0-1, 8.44 ERA)

NLDS Game 1: PHI 11, STL 6

W: Roy Halladay (1-0, 3.38 ERA)

L: Kyle Lohse (0-1, 8.44 ERA)

i was so crying after the first inning . but the bats came alive !!!!!

ColAngus said:

NLDS Game 1: PHI 11, STL 6

W: Roy Halladay (1-0, 3.38 ERA)

L: Kyle Lohse (0-1, 8.44 ERA)

i was so crying after the first inning . but the bats came alive !!!!!

Did they ever!!! Phillies dominated!

Shaolin325 said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Tigers are no joke, and the Yankees have struggled in the first round the past several years.

I was listening to WFAN. Apparently, some in Red Sox Nation are ticked with Giradi for the way he managed last night's game. Please. Teams that clinched don't owe other teams jack shit. If the Red Sox handled their business, they'd be playing tomorrow.

Francona would have handled the situation the same way. Paplepon (not sure about the spelling) would not have pitched in that game. Sox fans need to be sore with the Sox players....period.

Although my brother sort of agrees with the Sox fans. He's afraid of the Rays. He did not want them to get into the playoffs, he would've preferred facing the Sox. We'll see if the Yanks regret letting the Rays "off the hook".....

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sox fans will NEVER admit to the obvious problems which has been their players. they would rather blame the ghost of the bambino, bucky dent instead of blaming their lack of play when it was needed. if u ever kept up with the new era commercials with adam baldwin, all that was needed 2 be said was in the 1st commerical of the series when the other guy says that the sox will bury the yanks and we'll be dead in october..REALLY? SERIOUSLY? the sox are one the most choked teams in history ever

ALDS Game 2: TEX 8, TB 6

W: Derek Holland (1-0, 1.80 ERA)

L: James Shields (0-1, 12.60 ERA)

ALDS Game 1: NY 9, DET 3

W: Ivan Nova (1-0, 2.84 ERA)

L: Doug Fister (0-1, 11.57 ERA)

robi cano what do u know!!!

How pissed do you think A-rod was when Robbie Cano took a curtain call during the first pitch of Alex's at bat?

He's easily the most dangerous hitter on the team (maybe even in the entire playoffs ), moved to #3 in the lineup, rocked a post season grand slam.....etc., etc......

and A-rod had a very typical 0-5 night.

clear the way overpaid pretty boy, let the real studs play on the big stage.

man, that swing is sooooooooooo sweet.......

maybe if A rod stops trying 2 screw ugly chicks and REHAB himself fully in the off season he might return 2 be a real serious threat in the lineup again, but until then it's up to cano and tex

Today's games and starting pitchers:

AL DIVISION SERIES:

NEW YORK YANKEES VS. DETROIT TIGERS

Game 2: Detroit (Max Scherzer, 15-9) at New York (Freddy Garcia, 12-8), 3:07 p.m.

NL DIVISION SERIES:

MILWAUKEE BREWERS VS. ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS

Game 1: Arizona (Daniel Hudson, 16-12) at Milwaukee (Zack Greinke, 16-6), 5:07 p.m.

PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES VS. ST. LOUIS CARDINALS

Game 1: St. Louis (Chris Carpenter, 11-9) at Philadelphia (Cliff Lee, 17-8), 8:37 p.m.

JerseyKRS said:

How pissed do you think A-rod was when Robbie Cano took a curtain call during the first pitch of Alex's at bat?

He's easily the most dangerous hitter on the team (maybe even in the entire playoffs ), moved to #3 in the lineup, rocked a post season grand slam.....etc., etc......

and A-rod had a very typical 0-5 night.

clear the way overpaid pretty boy, let the real studs play on the big stage.

man, that swing is sooooooooooo sweet.......

Robi does have a sweet swing, but let us be for real for one minute. The Yankees chances of winning it al increase dramatically - IMO - with A-Rod somewhere near the top of his game.

Imagine that....A-Rod playing like A-Rod batting behind Robi who is batting behind a MVP candidate in Granderson!!! So, I don't want A-Rod to step aside. I want him to be all that he can be!!!

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L4OATheOriginal said:

maybe if A rod stops trying 2 screw ugly chicks and REHAB himself fully in the off season he might return 2 be a real serious threat in the lineup again, but until then it's up to cano and tex

I'm not giving up on A-Rod just yet!!!! I believe he can come back to form during this playoff run. I'm hoping anyway

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JerseyKRS said:

and A-rod had a very typical 0-5 night.

If this continues to happen, Cano will be walked every time.

sextonseven said:

JerseyKRS said:

and A-rod had a very typical 0-5 night.

If this continues to happen, Cano will be walked every time.

not a chance. Joe will simply move Tex up and Alex down. Hell, Alex is only in fourth so Tex can protect HIM!

and this "we need Alex to be what he can be" kool-aid talk (it started with the brass that paid him his ridic contract, of course they prop him up) is crap. Alex is who he is. Your play dictates the player you are. Aside from the 09 season, Alex hasn't been the player he "can be" since Seattle.

Sure, I'd love to see him succeed, but I don't need to see anymore of his act.

I really, really, REALLY like the Yankees chances this year. The starting arms, as always, are going to be key.

JerseyKRS said:

sextonseven said:

If this continues to happen, Cano will be walked every time.

not a chance. Joe will simply move Tex up and Alex down. Hell, Alex is only in fourth so Tex can protect HIM!

and this "we need Alex to be what he can be" kool-aid talk (it started with the brass that paid him his ridic contract, of course they prop him up) is crap. Alex is who he is. Your play dictates the player you are. Aside from the 09 season, Alex hasn't been the player he "can be" since Seattle.

Sure, I'd love to see him succeed, but I don't need to see anymore of his act.

I really, really, REALLY like the Yankees chances this year. The starting arms, as always, are going to be key.

"Kool-aid" talk? I'm not familiar with that type of talk. I'm also not familiar with this "act" you are referring to. A person can't "act" themselves into having hall of fame worthy stats (steroids or not)..if that were true we'd have a lot more "actors" playing major leaque baseball.

A-Rod is a great player. Yankees will benefit greatly when he starts showing that again.

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uPtoWnNY said:

The Red Sox front office can talk all that Yankee 'evil empire' shit all they want, but they have a $140million dollar payroll. Those cats spend money too and there's nothing wrong with that.

Yankees had a $203 million dollar payroll this year, hard to lump the Red Sox with a team that spent $63 million more. Actually I think Boston had a $162 million payroll, but that's still quite a bit less than New York.

I would love to see the Rays go all the way with that $41 million payroll of theirs, but the Tampa fanbase doesn't deserve a championship. There's no excuse for a half empty stadium when your team is in the midst of a historic comeback, and they even had a hard time selling tickets for playoff games in the past.

Shaolin325 said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

maybe if A rod stops trying 2 screw ugly chicks and REHAB himself fully in the off season he might return 2 be a real serious threat in the lineup again, but until then it's up to cano and tex

I'm not giving up on A-Rod just yet!!!! I believe he can come back to form during this playoff run. I'm hoping anyway

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i'm hoping as well cause if he starts scaring pitchers and gets on base more then it sets up those in front and back of him in the lineup, but right now they know his bat is a bit slow and not worrying about him

Pokeno4Money said:

uPtoWnNY said:

The Red Sox front office can talk all that Yankee 'evil empire' shit all they want, but they have a $140million dollar payroll. Those cats spend money too and there's nothing wrong with that.

Yankees had a $203 million dollar payroll this year, hard to lump the Red Sox with a team that spent $63 million more. Actually I think Boston had a $162 million payroll, but that's still quite a bit less than New York.

I would love to see the Rays go all the way with that $41 million payroll of theirs, but the Tampa fanbase doesn't deserve a championship. There's no excuse for a half empty stadium when your team is in the midst of a historic comeback, and they even had a hard time selling tickets for playoff games in the past.

i don't want 2 speculate too much here about the fans in the state of florida, marlin fans included in this, but would one speculate that since spring training happens in florida that fans there don't support their local teams as much? flip coin of that is saying about arizona but all year long i've seen that the diamondbacks have a good support fan system.

even tho as a yankee fan, the payroll issue does raise heads, but boston spent a lot on 3 players themselves in the past 2 years and haven't clinched the championship, the mets have a high payroll too and yet u see where they land constantly. having a high payroll doesn't make championships and i say that for the yankees as well.