Orgnote me if you don't want to talk about it in public. I'd love to hear about your experiences with it.

I'm not 100% convinced of either

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I wouldn't bother my father used to have one, it was forever braking down...

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thanks I really REALLY needed that laugh

They suffer terribly with rust under the arches, and the nipples need greasing regularly....

sorry back on topic.....

Joyinrepatition said:

I wouldn't bother my father used to have one, it was forever braking down...

no not me... i dont even use the pill anymore... no need 2

hopefully soon i will have 2 tho

don't these things move?

http://mirena-side-effect...-women.php

soooooo, I won't be getting one NO WAY!!!

FuzzyWitch said:

no not me... i dont even use the pill anymore... no need 2

hopefully soon i will have 2 tho

my doc is keen to have me get one

they must get a commission

You know what I recommend for birth control? This book...

[img:$uid]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/516DWYWGBDL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg[/img:$uid]

It will help you make sense of how your body works - alleviating the need for hormone-based birth control, IUDs, etc. Barrier methods are completely up to you, based on your ability to chart your fertility signs and abstain when you're most likely to become pregnant.

It's ridiculous for a woman to be on birth control 24/7 when she is fertile for a few days a month. (It's men who are fertile all the time.) I wish I had known about this book before I took (and paid for) 20 years of birth control pills. At the very least, I could have made a more informed choice.

Genesia said:

You know what I recommend for birth control? This book...

[img:$uid]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/516DWYWGBDL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg[/img:$uid]

It will help you make sense of how your body works - alleviating the need for hormone-based birth control, IUDs, etc. Barrier methods are completely up to you, based on your ability to chart your fertility signs and abstain when you're most likely to become pregnant.

It's ridiculous for a woman to be on birth control 24/7 when she is fertile for a few days a month. (It's men who are fertile all the time.) I wish I had known about this book before I took (and paid for) 20 years of birth control pills. At the very least, I could have made a more informed choice.

Thanks for this information.

Adisa said:

Genesia said:

You know what I recommend for birth control? This book...

[img:$uid]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/516DWYWGBDL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg[/img:$uid]

It will help you make sense of how your body works - alleviating the need for hormone-based birth control, IUDs, etc. Barrier methods are completely up to you, based on your ability to chart your fertility signs and abstain when you're most likely to become pregnant.

It's ridiculous for a woman to be on birth control 24/7 when she is fertile for a few days a month. (It's men who are fertile all the time.) I wish I had known about this book before I took (and paid for) 20 years of birth control pills. At the very least, I could have made a more informed choice.

Thanks for this information.

You're welcome. It's a great one - regardless of whether you're trying to get pregnant or trying to avoid it.

Genesia said:

Adisa said:

Thanks for this information.

You're welcome. It's a great one - regardless of whether you're trying to get pregnant or trying to avoid it.

My wife and I went through hell trying to conceive for many years. We have 2 kids now and we aren't trying to have any more. So, yes, we are avoiding like a m'ug!

And BC has been nothing but a for her cycles and emotions, so we are done with that garbage hopefully after reading this book.

Adisa said:

Genesia said:

You're welcome. It's a great one - regardless of whether you're trying to get pregnant or trying to avoid it.

My wife and I went through hell trying to conceive for many years. We have 2 kids now and we aren't trying to have any more. So, yes, we are avoiding like a m'ug!

And BC has been nothing but a for her cycles and emotions, so we are done with that garbage hopefully after reading this book.

Well, it definitely helps a woman to have a supportive partner as she works through this. All the best!

Adisa said:

ZombieKitten said:

Genesis I do not need birth control. But I do need a solution to my very heavy periods. My ferretin level was 9. I am losing so much blood I'm like the walking dead. I have been on iron supplements for 50 days and got the level up to 52, which is great and after 120 days I expect to feel much better. however, iron supplements are really a long term solution - they make me feel sort of sick all the time. I'm not a vegetarian or anything.

Mirena is an IUD. So when you asked about it, I inferred that you needed birth control.

Are you through having kids? NovaSure might be more what you're looking for...

http://www.novasure.com/info/utilities/request-brochure.cfm?src=hvy

ZombieKitten said:

Adisa said:

My wife and I went through hell trying to conceive for many years. We have 2 kids now and we aren't trying to have any more. So, yes, we are avoiding like a m'ug!

And BC has been nothing but a for her cycles and emotions, so we are done with that garbage hopefully after reading this book.

No-scalpel vasectomy is your answer. A little swelling on site the day I'd the op, but no looking back after that!

We've discused he options of surgery also. I don't really want to do it and neither does she. After our second son was born she was still dropping not so subtle hints about having a baby girl one day, and shut that talk down with the quickness. No MORE! We are approaching 40. That's not old, but we went through HELL trying to conceive the first one.

The second son is our tantra baby. He's the unexpected, unplanned byproduct of all that tantric stuff we were learning at the time. But I digress... No more babies, and no more BC. I'm going to get that book and give it whirl, literally, lol. I really don't want to have no surgeries either.

Genesia said:

You know what I recommend for birth control? This book...

[img:$uid]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/516DWYWGBDL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg[/img:$uid]

It will help you make sense of how your body works - alleviating the need for hormone-based birth control, IUDs, etc. Barrier methods are completely up to you, based on your ability to chart your fertility signs and abstain when you're most likely to become pregnant.

It's ridiculous for a woman to be on birth control 24/7 when she is fertile for a few days a month. (It's men who are fertile all the time.) I wish I had known about this book before I took (and paid for) 20 years of birth control pills. At the very least, I could have made a more informed choice.

I'm gonna take a look at this too. I have tried different pills at various times and they simply aren't for me (hormone craziness simply isn't worth it).

I already track my cycle, moods, symptoms, etc. In fact, I use an app on my iPhone for it. I basically know when I'm fertile and when I'm not, now it's just a matter of putting that knowledge to good (better) use.

ZombieKitten said:

Genesis I do not need birth control. But I do need a solution to my very heavy periods. My ferretin level was 9. I am losing so much blood I'm like the walking dead. I have been on iron supplements for 50 days and got the level up to 52, which is great and after 120 days I expect to feel much better. however, iron supplements are really a long term solution - they make me feel sort of sick all the time. I'm not a vegetarian or anything.

My sister in law was having the same problems so she talked to her doc and they cauterized the lining of her uterus... she swears by it, says her periods are very light now.. I was actually thinking about doing this cuz as im "maturing" mine are getting terrible! Its called Endometrial Ablation....

CarrieMpls said:

Genesia said:

You know what I recommend for birth control? This book...

[img:$uid]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/516DWYWGBDL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg[/img:$uid]

It will help you make sense of how your body works - alleviating the need for hormone-based birth control, IUDs, etc. Barrier methods are completely up to you, based on your ability to chart your fertility signs and abstain when you're most likely to become pregnant.

It's ridiculous for a woman to be on birth control 24/7 when she is fertile for a few days a month. (It's men who are fertile all the time.) I wish I had known about this book before I took (and paid for) 20 years of birth control pills. At the very least, I could have made a more informed choice.

I'm gonna take a look at this too. I have tried different pills at various times and they simply aren't for me (hormone craziness simply isn't worth it).

I already track my cycle, moods, symptoms, etc. In fact, I use an app on my iPhone for it. I basically know when I'm fertile and when I'm not, now it's juat a matter of putting that knowledge to good (better) use.

I actually tolerated the Pill very well (outside of occasional yeast infections). My skin looked faaaaaabulous.

But I eventually decided that I needed to get off it. I figured my fertility was waning, anyway (I was at "that age") - so this seemed to present some better options. It's a pretty awesome book.

tinaz said:

ZombieKitten said:

Genesis I do not need birth control. But I do need a solution to my very heavy periods. My ferretin level was 9. I am losing so much blood I'm like the walking dead. I have been on iron supplements for 50 days and got the level up to 52, which is great and after 120 days I expect to feel much better. however, iron supplements are really a long term solution - they make me feel sort of sick all the time. I'm not a vegetarian or anything.

My sister in law was having the same problems so she talked to her doc and they cauterized the lining of her uterus... she swears by it, says her periods are very light now.. I was actually thinking about doing this cuz as im "maturing" mine are getting terrible! Its called Endometrial Ablation....

That's what NovaSure is.

The other option is to find a doctor who prescribes bio-identical hormones and approach it from that angle - which will ultimately help with other perimenopausal symptoms, too. But that can be difficult - it took me almost five years to find the doctor I'm seeing now.

Endometrial ablation

Genesia said:

tinaz said:

My sister in law was having the same problems so she talked to her doc and they cauterized the lining of her uterus... she swears by it, says her periods are very light now.. I was actually thinking about doing this cuz as im "maturing" mine are getting terrible! Its called Endometrial Ablation....

That's what NovaSure is.

The other option is to find a doctor who prescribes bio-identical hormones and approach it from that angle - which will ultimately help with other perimenopausal symptoms, too. But that can be difficult - it took me almost five years to find the doctor I'm seeing now.

Novasure... Is that a pill? I havent heard of it..

Yuck!! I just googled mirena and came across ectopic pregnancy stuff!

tinaz said:

Endometrial ablation

Endometrial ablation is a procedure that destroys (ablates) the uterine lining, or endometrium. This procedure is used to treat dysfunctional or abnormal uterine bleeding. Sometimes a lighted viewing instrument (hysteroscope) is used to see inside the uterus. Endometrial ablation can be done by:

• Laser beam (laser thermal ablation).
• Heat (thermal ablation), using:
  • Radiofrequency.
  • A balloon filled with saline solution that has been heated to 85 C (185 F) (thermal balloon ablation).
  • Normal saline (heated free fluid).
• Electricity, using a resectoscope with a loop or rolling ball electrode.
• Freezing.
• Microwave.

The endometrium heals by scarring, which usually reduces or prevents uterine bleeding.

Endometrial ablation may be done in an outpatient facility or your doctor's office. The procedure can take up to about 45 minutes. The procedure may be done using a local or spinal anesthesia. And general anesthesia is sometimes used.

What To Expect After Surgery

After the procedure, you may have some side effects, such as cramping, nausea, and vaginal discharge that may be watery and mixed with blood. This discharge will become clear after a couple of days and can last for around 1 to 2 weeks.

It takes a few days to 2 weeks to recover. You can usually go home the same day.

Why It Is Done

Endometrial ablation is used to control heavy, prolonged vaginal bleeding when:

• Bleeding has not responded to other treatments.
• Childbearing is completed.
• You prefer not to have a hysterectomy to control bleeding.
• Other medical problems prevent a hysterectomy.

How Well It Works

Most women will have reduced menstrual flow following endometrial ablation. And up to half will stop having periods.¹

Younger women are less likely than older women to respond to endometrial ablation. After an endometrial ablation, younger women are more likely to continue to have periods and need a repeat procedure.

Young women may be treated with either gonadotropin-releasing hormone analogues (GnRH-As) 1 to 3 months before the procedure. This will decrease their production of estrogen and help thin the lining of the uterus (endometrium).

Risks

Problems that can happen during endometrial ablation include:

• Accidental puncture (perforation) of the uterus.
• Burns (thermal injury) to the uterus or the surface of the bowel.
• Buildup of fluid in the lungs (pulmonary edema).
• Sudden blockage of arterial blood flow within the lung (pulmonary embolism).
• Tearing of the opening of the uterus (cervical laceration).

These problems are uncommon but can be severe.

What To Think About

Regrowth of the endometrium may occur after you have endometrial ablation. This procedure is not recommended if you have a high risk for endometrial cancer.

Do not consider this procedure if you plan to become pregnant in the future.

Although this surgery usually causes sterility by destroying the lining of the uterus, pregnancy may still be possible if a small part of the endometrium is left in place. This can lead to severe pregnancy problems. Birth control of some form is needed if you have not finished menopause.

I know 3 heavy bleeders that have had this done with wonderful results ~ bleeding less ...

2 of them 3 years out have had no change in their "very" low iron levels ( thought to have been caused by heavy bleeding ) so I am no longer thinking of this for myself ~ I'm a mod heavy bleeder ( but like the fact I am 100% done in less than 3 days total ) and was thinking about this because some Drs reccommend it for Iron issues too

tinaz said:

Genesia said:

That's what NovaSure is.

The other option is to find a doctor who prescribes bio-identical hormones and approach it from that angle - which will ultimately help with other perimenopausal symptoms, too. But that can be difficult - it took me almost five years to find the doctor I'm seeing now.

Novasure... Is that a pill? I havent heard of it..

Ummmm...no. I said it was endometrial ablation - which you posted all kinds of info on.

I thought this was a thread about some new, fancy, high tech vibrator.

KoolEaze said:

I thought this was a thread about some new, fancy, high tech vibrator.

Yeah...not even close.

Genesia said:

tinaz said:

Novasure... Is that a pill? I havent heard of it..

Ummmm...no. I said it was endometrial ablation - which you posted all kinds of info on.

I guess i didnt understand why its called something different?