SUPRMAN said:

Tremolina said:

I did not touch, I did not touch!

But you lusted within your heart . . . . .

You know it's because of men like you that they have to dress like that in the first place.

I think it's because traditionally the men fear that their women could stray.

JowiiCoco said:

Tremolina said:

I did not touch, I did not touch!

Here we go again. "Kijken, kijken, niet kopen"!

It was a lunchroom.

Really.

Tremolina said:

Vendetta1 said:

Tremolina said: why don't I nip it in the bud and just fuck you up instead? Ya can't flirt with two black eyes.

Aww... why you mad at me?

Tremolina...right that's it....i've orgnoted DJJ...hopefully that will distract you from this burqa (actually its called a hijab) madness...you'll be stoned to death by the end of the week if you're not careful!!

[Edited 7/4/11 13:29pm]

Vendetta1 said:

Tremolina said:

Aww... why you mad at me?

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Tremolina...right that's it....i've orgnoted DJJ...hopefully that will distract you from this burqa (actually its called a hijab) madness...you'll be stoned to death by the end of the week if you're not careful!!

[Edited 7/4/11 13:29pm]

But, but, I am promoting women's rights here!

Anyway, I will be so happy to meet her

Tremolina said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Tremolina...right that's it....i've orgnoted DJJ...hopefully that will distract you from this burqa (actually its called a hijab) madness...you'll be stoned to death by the end of the week if you're not careful!!

[Edited 7/4/11 13:29pm]

But, but, I am promoting women's rights here!

Anyway, I will be so happy to meet her

If a woman is FREE to CHOOSE to wear a burqa, then I support her choice to do so. But the key word is CHOICE! Anyway, I bet you would be glad to meet her.

purplethunder3121 said:

Tremolina said:

But, but, I am promoting women's rights here!

Anyway, I will be so happy to meet her

If a woman is FREE to CHOOSE to wear a burqa, then I support her choice to do so. But the key word is CHOICE! Anyway, I bet you would be glad to meet her.

I'm saying

purplethunder3121 said:

Tremolina said:

But, but, I am promoting women's rights here!

Anyway, I will be so happy to meet her

If a woman is FREE to CHOOSE to wear a burqa, then I support her choice to do so. But the key word is CHOICE! Anyway, I bet you would be glad to meet her.

Exactly. I know a girl younger than me (15) who decided to wear it (I know it was her choice because she told me so and her mother doesn't wear one). She loves it, she is so happy with it and is always smiling now and is very confident with it!

Even when I visit Egypt and stay with my grandparents, I see my grandmother happily put it on every morning and she'll go to the mosque at 5am. She didn't always wear it. Actually, my grandmother is the most gorgeous woman I've ever seen, she looks like Angelina Jolie x10 but with a rounder face. She is white, but she has that fierce egyptian look too. People would stare at her constantly (&btw, she still looks gorgeous with it on even at 67 yrs old!). She decided to put it on after she got breast cancer (I wasn't alive at that time).. she had it for ten years and it never came back and she still happily wears it and loves it so much.

There are many many women and girls who love to wear the headcover. Hard to believe, even I don't exactly enjoy wearing it but some people truly love it. Like that fifteen year old girl wears the headcover but she still acts like every other teenage girl. She curses from time to time, she loves justin bieber (), she buys teen vogue, she laughs all the time. All while wearing the hijab at will. And doesn't care what anyone thinks of her as opposed to before where she would worry all the time.

I admire women and girls who wear the hijab happily.

Many people wear it and love it, but if someone is forced to wear it I consider that abuse, hands down. That is a choice even in Islam and I think that if a woman is forced by her parents, husband, family, or whoever else, that is wrong and abusive. That is a HUGE decision that should be chosen happily by the person who is dedicated and committed to the hijab.

Me? Pffft, no. I don't wear one, and don't see myself wearing one either. I wear bikinis, I wear whatever just like everyone else. I'm not conservative, can't say I'm provocative either (I don't like showing too much skin for no reason. Like, bikinis? That's fine because I'm swimming but I don't feel the need to just show off my body for no reason other than I genuinely like the clothing I'm wearing but I don't look to show anything on purpose. I'm happy wearing whatever makes me feel comfortable. ) I do practice my religion, maybe not in the best way I should, but I fast, pray, give to charity, etc. And follow many rules of my religion still. But I'm still very, I guess you could say "liberal" in my views and with many things in my life. To each his own, I guess.

^ uh okay

[Edited 7/4/11 14:20pm]

Thanks for your contribution to this thread an giving your view as a muslim woman paniurozcy!

I have noticed too that some girls/women like wearing a scarve but are not necessarily very religious.

And I think you are indeed quite liberal yourself. Judging by your signature and all, I could tell.

paniuroczy said:

purplethunder3121 said:

If a woman is FREE to CHOOSE to wear a burqa, then I support her choice to do so. But the key word is CHOICE! Anyway, I bet you would be glad to meet her.

Exactly. I know a girl younger than me (15) who decided to wear it (I know it was her choice because she told me so and her mother doesn't wear one). She loves it, she is so happy with it and is always smiling now and is very confident with it!

Even when I visit Egypt and stay with my grandparents, I see my grandmother happily put it on every morning and she'll go to the mosque at 5am. She didn't always wear it. Actually, my grandmother is the most gorgeous woman I've ever seen, she looks like Angelina Jolie x10 but with a rounder face. She is white, but she has that fierce egyptian look too. People would stare at her constantly (&btw, she still looks gorgeous with it on even at 67 yrs old!). She decided to put it on after she got breast cancer (I wasn't alive at that time).. she had it for ten years and it never came back and she still happily wears it and loves it so much.

There are many many women and girls who love to wear the headcover. Hard to believe, even I don't exactly enjoy wearing it but some people truly love it. Like that fifteen year old girl wears the headcover but she still acts like every other teenage girl. She curses from time to time, she loves justin bieber (), she buys teen vogue, she laughs all the time. All while wearing the hijab at will. And doesn't care what anyone thinks of her as opposed to before where she would worry all the time.

I admire women and girls who wear the hijab happily.

Many people wear it and love it, but if someone is forced to wear it I consider that abuse, hands down. That is a choice even in Islam and I think that if a woman is forced by her parents, husband, family, or whoever else, that is wrong and abusive. That is a HUGE decision that should be chosen happily by the person who is dedicated and committed to the hijab.

Me? Pffft, no. I don't wear one, and don't see myself wearing one either. I wear bikinis, I wear whatever just like everyone else. I'm not conservative, can't say I'm provocative either (I don't like showing too much skin for no reason. Like, bikinis? That's fine because I'm swimming but I don't feel the need to just show off my body for no reason other than I genuinely like the clothing I'm wearing but I don't look to show anything on purpose. I'm happy wearing whatever makes me feel comfortable. ) I do practice my religion, maybe not in the best way I should, but I fast, pray, give to charity, etc. And follow many rules of my religion still. But I'm still very, I guess you could say "liberal" in my views and with many things in my life. To each his own, I guess.

TheFreakerFantastic said:

hopefully that will distract you from this burqa (actually its called a hijab) madness...

Btw: did you read my first post?

Tremolina said:

KidaDynamite said:

Are you a man or a woman, if you don't mind my asking?

No, I don´t mind you asking. Last time I checked, I was still a man

Muslim women are so beautiful, especially when they are wearing the Hijab.

Tremolina said:

Thanks for your contribution to this thread an giving your view as a muslim woman paniurozcy!

I have noticed too that some girls/women like wearing a scarve but are not necessarily very religious.

And I think you are indeed quite liberal yourself. Judging by your signature and all, I could tell.

paniuroczy said:

Exactly. I know a girl younger than me (15) who decided to wear it (I know it was her choice because she told me so and her mother doesn't wear one). She loves it, she is so happy with it and is always smiling now and is very confident with it!

Even when I visit Egypt and stay with my grandparents, I see my grandmother happily put it on every morning and she'll go to the mosque at 5am. She didn't always wear it. Actually, my grandmother is the most gorgeous woman I've ever seen, she looks like Angelina Jolie x10 but with a rounder face. She is white, but she has that fierce egyptian look too. People would stare at her constantly (&btw, she still looks gorgeous with it on even at 67 yrs old!). She decided to put it on after she got breast cancer (I wasn't alive at that time).. she had it for ten years and it never came back and she still happily wears it and loves it so much.

There are many many women and girls who love to wear the headcover. Hard to believe, even I don't exactly enjoy wearing it but some people truly love it. Like that fifteen year old girl wears the headcover but she still acts like every other teenage girl. She curses from time to time, she loves justin bieber (), she buys teen vogue, she laughs all the time. All while wearing the hijab at will. And doesn't care what anyone thinks of her as opposed to before where she would worry all the time.

I admire women and girls who wear the hijab happily.

Many people wear it and love it, but if someone is forced to wear it I consider that abuse, hands down. That is a choice even in Islam and I think that if a woman is forced by her parents, husband, family, or whoever else, that is wrong and abusive. That is a HUGE decision that should be chosen happily by the person who is dedicated and committed to the hijab.

Me? Pffft, no. I don't wear one, and don't see myself wearing one either. I wear bikinis, I wear whatever just like everyone else. I'm not conservative, can't say I'm provocative either (I don't like showing too much skin for no reason. Like, bikinis? That's fine because I'm swimming but I don't feel the need to just show off my body for no reason other than I genuinely like the clothing I'm wearing but I don't look to show anything on purpose. I'm happy wearing whatever makes me feel comfortable. ) I do practice my religion, maybe not in the best way I should, but I fast, pray, give to charity, etc. And follow many rules of my religion still. But I'm still very, I guess you could say "liberal" in my views and with many things in my life. To each his own, I guess.

^^^ All of this I totally agree with. It is and SHOULD BE a WOMAN'S CHOICE, not foisted on her by a religious patriachal society. And Christianity has nothing to brag about in that realm either. It has only been in recent decades that Christian women have been allowed to wear certain types of clothing to religious ceremonies...depending on what branch of Christianity one is referring to. What counts is what exists in our hearts and souls and our connection to the Creator, by whatever name you call him/her (no sexual gender there! IMO!). Your final statement is really the bottom-line for any open minded people--"to each his/HER own!" BTW This is OBVIOUSLY a woman's post who is involved in the Islam religion--for those who don't carefully read!

Tremolina said:

KidaDynamite said:

Tremolina said:

No, I don´t mind you asking. Last time I checked, I was still a man

Oh aight. I thought you were a female.

I've been asked that question a few times...does it really matter?! Plus, the fact that you can lie your ass off on the internet!

KidaDynamite said:

Tremolina said:

No, I don´t mind you asking. Last time I checked, I was still a man

Oh aight. I thought you were a female.

Yeah I gathered that much already!

Did I seriously came across as female in my opening post?

I mean damn, I was talking like a DUDE not a dudette no?

Tremolina said:

KidaDynamite said:

Tremolina said: Oh aight. I thought you were a female.

Yeah I gathered that much already!

Did I seriously came across as female in my opening post?

I mean damn, I was talking like a DUDE not a dudette no?

Tremolina said:

Thanks for your contribution to this thread an giving your view as a muslim woman paniurozcy!

I have noticed too that some girls/women like wearing a scarve but are not necessarily very religious.

And I think you are indeed quite liberal yourself. Judging by your signature and all, I could tell.

Thank you,

& lol I'm just very silly.

purplethunder3121 said:

^^^ All of this I totally agree with. It is and SHOULD BE a WOMAN'S CHOICE, not foisted on her by a religious patriachal society. And Christianity has nothing to brag about in that realm either. It has only been in recent decades that Christian women have been allowed to wear certain types of clothing to religious ceremonies...depending on what branch of Christianity one is referring to. What counts is what exists in our hearts and souls and our connection to the Creator, by whatever name you call him/her (no sexual gender there! IMO!). Your final statement is really the bottom-line for any open minded people--"to each his/HER own!" BTW This is OBVIOUSLY a woman's post who is involved in the Islam religion--for those who don't carefully read!

Yes, thank you for understanding.

In Islam women and men are meant to be equal but unfortunately there has been a culture that followed naturally with the religion and undermined it. I'm very proud to be muslim, Islam has been good to me even though I'm not that religious. I love it and I love real Islam.

&In the Qur'an, it says there is no compulsion in religion, so yes, it is a choice for anybody when it comes to their religious duties and there is a huge thing with intentions and personal responsibility that many people want to ignore, especially men in arab society.

I grew up in a feminist family. My great grandmother was the first female doctor in Egypt, we are very proud and I grew up from my dad telling me that women can do anything a man can do + give birth.

purplethunder3121 said:

Tremolina said:

paniuroczy said:

Tremolina said:

Thanks for your contribution to this thread an giving your view as a muslim woman paniurozcy!

I have noticed too that some girls/women like wearing a scarve but are not necessarily very religious.

And I think you are indeed quite liberal yourself. Judging by your signature and all, I could tell.

Thank you,

& lol I'm just very silly.

purplethunder3121 said:

^^^ All of this I totally agree with. It is and SHOULD BE a WOMAN'S CHOICE, not foisted on her by a religious patriachal society. And Christianity has nothing to brag about in that realm either. It has only been in recent decades that Christian women have been allowed to wear certain types of clothing to religious ceremonies...depending on what branch of Christianity one is referring to. What counts is what exists in our hearts and souls and our connection to the Creator, by whatever name you call him/her (no sexual gender there! IMO!). Your final statement is really the bottom-line for any open minded people--"to each his/HER own!" BTW This is OBVIOUSLY a woman's post who is involved in the Islam religion--for those who don't carefully read!

Yes, thank you for understanding.

In Islam women and men are meant to be equal but unfortunately there has been a culture that followed naturally with the religion and undermined it. I'm very proud to be muslim, Islam has been good to me even though I'm not that religious. I love it and I love real Islam.

&In the Qur'an, it says there is no compulsion in religion, so yes, it is a choice for anybody when it comes to their religious duties and there is a huge thing with intentions and personal responsibility that many people want to ignore, especially men in arab society.

I grew up in a feminist family. My great grandmother was the first female doctor in Egypt, we are very proud and I grew up from my dad telling me that women can do anything a man can do + give birth.

^^^ Good for you and the women who came before you in your family! There can be true equality in Islam, as well as other patriarchal religions. But, I'm sure you already know this, women had much more freedom at the beginning of the Islam religion than in latter centuries (depending on the culture, of course!). Mohammed's wife Kadija (spelling?) played a VERY important part in the founding of the Islam religion, from my understanding... If I am wrong, correct me.

KidaDynamite said:

Tremolina said:

Yeah I gathered that much already!

Did I seriously came across as female in my opening post?

I mean damn, I was talking like a DUDE not a dudette no?

No, you didn't come across as female in your OP but it would have been sort of ignorant of me to just assume that you were a man just because you said that you flirted with a woman and I wouldn't want that. And is there really a standard way for a man to talk through text?!

No there isn't. It's cool

Where i live there r thousands of women walking around like that but its abit like a lucky dip most of them r bowwows but every now & again u come across a beauty that realy hot muslim the 1 that gets u so xcited....

Tremolina said:

purplethunder3121 said:

paniuroczy said:

Yes, thank you for understanding.

In Islam women and men are meant to be equal but unfortunately there has been a culture that followed naturally with the religion and undermined it. I'm very proud to be muslim, Islam has been good to me even though I'm not that religious. I love it and I love real Islam.

&In the Qur'an, it says there is no compulsion in religion, so yes, it is a choice for anybody when it comes to their religious duties and there is a huge thing with intentions and personal responsibility that many people want to ignore, especially men in arab society.

I grew up in a feminist family. My great grandmother was the first female doctor in Egypt, we are very proud and I grew up from my dad telling me that women can do anything a man can do + give birth.

^^^ Good for you and the women who came before you in your family! There can be true equality in Islam, as well as other patriarchal religions. But, I'm sure you already know this, women had much more freedom at the beginning of the Islam religion than in latter centuries (depending on the culture, of course!). Mohammed's wife Kadija (spelling?) played a VERY important part in the founding of the Islam religion, from my understanding... If I am wrong, correct me.

You are 100% correct. &Yes, Khadijah was his first wife, you are right about her . Also his daughter Fatima was very important as well.

davetherave6767 said:

Where i live there r thousands of women walking around like that but its abit like a lucky dip most of them r bowwows but every now & again u come across a beauty that realy hot muslim the 1 that gets u so xcited....

^^^ Typical straight male response! But, as I stated earlier the real attraction is the exotic/erotic attraction to what MIGHT be under the Burqa--not the REAL WOMAN who exists underneath! The problem is when the apparel that is supposed to protect makes women objectified as much as clothing that bares excessive flesh--like bikinis!