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Reply #90 posted 05/18/11 8:16am

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Was he really that bad? I thought he was extremely popular during his first year and there wasn´t really much that he could do later on. I´m not a fan but I thought that he was comparatively progressive and open minded for a Republican ( his stance on gays, the environment and alternative energies were not what you´d expect from a Republican).

the problem with him, his words and action don't match. despite his gay friendly tone he is the only governor who vetoed marriage equality legislation twice.

and now this lovechild surfaces... like John Ensign or Newt Gingrich he joins the hords of hypocritic GOP "Do as I say, not as I do" sumbags. dirty fuckers who accuse gays they would be ruining the holy concept and the institution of marriage, while they themselves treat their own marriage like shit. complete assholes.

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Reply #91 posted 05/18/11 8:27am

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No, I think I have to differentiate between it and "integrity".





I'm curious after your presentation!



What are your examples of people who are a success; in the way that they are very good at communicating and convincing others that they conquer other people?



Because I think success can be a very versatile construct. Being very good at conquering others is not my definition of success. In the thread about the bees, Paintedlady for me is the definition of success.



Who is successful by American standards (lot of money, beaten everybody else to it, polishing an (false) image, artificial beauty by botox/ surgery) and at the same time is intergre by the majorities' accepted standards?



Can a rich person keep his/her integrity? Can anybody who has integrity become rich?





i don't equate wealth with success. (fortunately for me big grin)



imo integrity and good character are traits a 'successful' person has, in life.



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Reply #92 posted 05/18/11 9:58am

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Revelations could tarnish Schwarzenegger's legacy

SACRAMENTO, Calif. – Arnold Schwarzenegger's political legacy in California already was tenuous.

He left the governor's office after seven years without making good on his central campaign promise to fix the state's budgeting system, then commuted the manslaughter sentence for the son of a political ally in one of his final official acts, drawing the condemnation of prosecutors and the family of a slain college student.

Now he's revealed to be the father of an out-of-wedlock child, a secret he kept during two gubernatorial terms.

No matter his accomplishments in office, Schwarzenegger may be best remembered as yet another philandering politician who got caught.

The former governor said in a statement early Tuesday that he had fathered the child of a longtime household staff member more than a decade ago, and that the woman continued to work in the family's Brentwood home until January.

Schwarzenegger and his wife, Maria Shriver, announced earlier this month that they were separating and that Shriver had moved out, although they did not give a reason at the time beyond a reference to difficult transitions.

After leaving office in January, the former Republican governor had for a time been angling for a role as some kind of international political spokesman, perhaps on environmental issues. In April, he appeared at a Washington, D.C., forum on immigration hosted by President Barack Obama, but his grander plans for politics did not appear to be panning out, so Schwarzenegger lately has been trying to relaunch his career as a Hollywood action star.

"It's over. There's no political future," said Patrick Dorinson, a Republican who worked on Schwarzenegger's 2003 campaign and in his administration early on. "I'm just disgusted. It's the only dang bipartisan thing these guys do — cheat on their wives. John Edwards, Arnold Schwarzenegger — tell me the difference."

The comparison to Edwards is natural. The former North Carolina senator frequently invoked his wife and children as he sought the 2008 Democratic nomination for president. He later acknowledged fathering a child with a campaign videographer at the same time his wife, Elizabeth Edwards, was battling breast cancer. She died last year.

Yet Schwarzenegger's legacy and reputation already were under fire after he cut Esteban Nunez's prison sentence for manslaughter to seven years from 16. Nunez, the son of former Democratic Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez, had pleaded guilty in 2008 in the stabbing death of a San Diego college student, 22-year-old Luis Santos. Prosecutors say Esteban Nunez also stabbed two other people after he and a group of friends went looking for revenge after getting kicked out of a fraternity party.

San Diego County prosecutors last week asked a state court to overturn Schwarzenegger's last-minute decision because he failed to seek input from the victim's family before he made the commutation. State law requires such notification.

Schwarzenegger's story now resembles that of so many other politicians beset by hubris and poor judgment. The indiscretion, which Schwarzenegger referred to as an "event" that occurred more than a decade ago, will be what sticks in the minds of many people, adding to the former "Terminator" star's image as a Hollywood playboy.

"Long after Californians have forgotten the details of his fiscal policies, they'll remember that he had a child out of wedlock. And more importantly, they'll remember the cover-up," said Jack Pitney, a political science professor at Claremont McKenna College. "It doesn't necessarily contradict his policies, but it certainly taints his reputation."

Others said the news has a greater impact on Schwarzenegger's family and his friends than it does on California voters.

"I think at the end of the day, it didn't happen during his governorship, it happened before his governorship," said former Senate Minority Leader Jim Brulte, who is now a Republican adviser. "Citizens in California already have a fixed impression of Gov. Schwarzenegger, good or bad, and I would be surprised if this changes that."

It was a surprise that Schwarzenegger had kept an out-of-wedlock child a secret for more than 10 years while the mother continued to work in the Schwarzenegger-Shriver home, but the revelation itself was not a shocker.

Schwarzenegger, a former Mr. Universe who had often bragged about his sexual conquests before he met Shriver, had come under fire just days before the 2003 recall election after the Los Angeles Times reported allegations from 16 women that Schwarzenegger had groped and verbally harassed them during encounters dating to the early 1970s and as recently as 2000. Schwarzenegger apologized for his bad behavior but never fully addressed the claims.

"Yes, it is true that I was on rowdy movie sets and I have done things that were not right which I thought then was playful, but now I recognize that I have offended people," he said then. "And those people that I have offended, I want to say to them, `I am deeply sorry about that and I apologize, because this is not what I'm trying to do.' When I'm governor, I want to prove to the women that I will be a champion for the women."

Ironically, Shriver was key to helping her husband beat back the allegations and win the 2003 recall election, lending him credibility when she appeared onstage to say that the accusers didn't know her husband.

"I'm personally very torn about this issue," said Eric Bauman, a vice chairman of the California Democratic Party. "I have great sympathy for his wife and children to learn about this, but as a concerned Californian, as one who strongly opposed his election during the recall campaign, I remember how his team treated the women who came forward that made complaints about untoward behavior and they were not very nice about it. They were very aggressive in batting down those women and their stories, and lo and behold, now we have this."

Schwarzenegger did appoint women to high-profile posts during his seven years in office, and aides said he would drop everything when Shriver or their four children called. He ended his overnight stays in a hotel suite across from the Capitol to fly home every night, saying he wanted to be closer to his children.

But he also cultivated a masculine atmosphere in his Capitol office, setting up a smoking tent in the outdoor courtyard where he negotiated deals over cigars. His closest staffers donned his signature cowboy boots and oversized watches.

During his 2006 re-election campaign, a six-minute audio recording surfaced of remarks Schwarzenegger made about a female lawmaker in a closed-door speechwriting session.

"I mean Cuban, Puerto Rican, they are all very hot," the governor said. "They have the, you know, part of the black blood in them and part of the Latino blood in them that together makes it."

The lawmaker, Republican Bonnie Garcia, had a good relationship with the governor and defended him.

Another former female lawmaker was less forgiving of Schwarzenegger's style.

Former Assembly Speaker Karen Bass, a Democrat, said in a 2009 interview in LA Magazine that she didn't always feel like she fit in. As a legislative leader, Bass was among the small circle of lawmakers who would negotiate budgets with the governor.

"The governor is much more comfortable negotiating with men and likes to do the guy thing — the challenging and baiting, how guys will kind of come after each other. That doesn't work well with me, nor does it apply to me," said Bass, now a member of Congress.

Schwarzenegger has announced plans to star as a horse trainer in a planned drama called "Cry Macho" and has talked about resurrecting his signature "Terminator" character. He and comic-book legend Stan Lee recently announced he would voice the lead character in an animated TV series called "The Governator," in which he would play himself.

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Reply #93 posted 05/18/11 10:02am

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KoolEaze said:

SoulAlive said:

No wonder he was such a horrible governor.He was obviously "distracted" rolleyes

Was he really that bad? I thought he was extremely popular during his first year and there wasn´t really much that he could do later on. I´m not a fan but I thought that he was comparatively progressive and open minded for a Republican ( his stance on gays, the environment and alternative energies were not what you´d expect from a Republican).

So, where did he go wrong? I mean, he inherited a lot of debt from Davis, right?Can´t really put the blame on him only.

Any Californian orgers who could enlighten me a bit? Supa and Suprman maybe?

Thanks in advance.

He was lousy as a governor.I really don't see why people voted to recall Gray Davis.His "replacement" didn't do anything different! In fact,Arnold just made things worse.Arnold was just a bored,washed up Hollywood actor who wanted the political spotlight.Thank God that California voters came to their senses and finally elected a "real" governor,Jerry Brown...someone who actually has experience in this stuff.

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Reply #94 posted 05/18/11 2:02pm

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SoulAlive said:

KoolEaze said:

Was he really that bad? I thought he was extremely popular during his first year and there wasn´t really much that he could do later on. I´m not a fan but I thought that he was comparatively progressive and open minded for a Republican ( his stance on gays, the environment and alternative energies were not what you´d expect from a Republican).

So, where did he go wrong? I mean, he inherited a lot of debt from Davis, right?Can´t really put the blame on him only.

Any Californian orgers who could enlighten me a bit? Supa and Suprman maybe?

Thanks in advance.

He was lousy as a governor.I really don't see why people voted to recall Gray Davis.His "replacement" didn't do anything different! In fact,Arnold just made things worse.Arnold was just a bored,washed up Hollywood actor who wanted the political spotlight.Thank God that California voters came to their senses and finally elected a "real" governor,Jerry Brown...someone who actually has experience in this stuff.

Californians have not come to their senses and Jerry Brown without reform will be just as ineffective and people believed Davis and Schwarzenegger to be.

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Reply #95 posted 05/18/11 4:23pm

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14 years old?

A possible 2nd, make that 1st Love Child?

2 more Terminator movies?

*throws hands up, walks out*

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Reply #96 posted 05/18/11 4:30pm

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hah! the child's mother is named Mildred. Hope she doesn't physically fit her name. I could see him fucking an Amber, Sheila or a Marilyn but a Mildred?

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Reply #97 posted 05/18/11 5:00pm

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Somebody said she looks like Danny Devito with long hair.

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Reply #98 posted 05/18/11 6:15pm

suga10

Its a sad situation. I thought Arnold and Maria were one the truly happily married couples out there.

But I guess happily married sadly doesn't exist..

It is however good that he was supporting that child all these years- something that California Raisin could never do for Alejandra. lol

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Reply #99 posted 05/18/11 6:19pm

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^ Happily married don't exist in HOLLYWOOD, I thought we were clear on that. lol If you're a celebrity and you wanna be happily married, don't live in Hollywood (or even New York for that matter), move to a quieter neighborhood or relocate to Europe, Australia or Asia. lol

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Reply #100 posted 05/18/11 6:20pm

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Its a sad situation. I thought Arnold and Maria were one the truly happily married couples out there.

But I guess happily married sadly doesn't exist..

It is however good that he was supporting that child all these years- something that California Raisin could never do for Alejandra. lol

Happily married exists but it doesn't exists among persons who are notorious whoremongers or those who've come from families where cheating has been considered somewhat "acceptable". Frankly I'm surprised they lasted as long as they did. From what I've read about them, he courted her for several years and refused to marry her until he had his own millions to silence any naysayers who thought he was after the Kennedy fortune. Other stories paint Arnold as an opportunist who only married Maria to gain access into the world of politics. In any case, he was never a candidate for marriage IMHO.

I do agree with you that he did right in supporting his outside kid and yes ole greasy prune is an example of what NOT TO DO as a parent.

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Reply #101 posted 05/18/11 6:22pm

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Its a sad situation. I thought Arnold and Maria were one the truly happily married couples out there.

But I guess happily married sadly doesn't exist..

It is however good that he was supporting that child all these years- something that California Raisin could never do for Alejandra. lol

Cheating on your wife and fathering a child with someone else does not mean that they weren´t happily married. Nor does it mean that they can´t have that happiness again.This is a dude who was a real dog in his prime, and who even admitted to participating in gangbangs in the gym with his buddies and a willing girl, so I bet Maria always knew that there was an element of risk.

" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #102 posted 05/18/11 6:24pm

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The kid look sooo much like Arnold eek The lady has a public myspace account- that's where TMZ got the pics from.

[Edited 5/18/11 11:26am]

[Edited 5/18/11 11:27am]

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Reply #103 posted 05/18/11 6:28pm

dJJ

He won't be back!

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Reply #104 posted 05/18/11 6:28pm

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^ spit That is so wrong!

the schwarzenegger baby pic i mean.

[Edited 5/18/11 11:28am]

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Reply #105 posted 05/18/11 6:29pm

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KoolEaze said:

suga10 said:

Its a sad situation. I thought Arnold and Maria were one the truly happily married couples out there.

But I guess happily married sadly doesn't exist..

It is however good that he was supporting that child all these years- something that California Raisin could never do for Alejandra. lol

Cheating on your wife and fathering a child with someone else does not mean that they weren´t happily married. Nor does it mean that they can´t have that happiness again.This is a dude who was a real dog in his prime, and who even admitted to participating in gangbangs in the gym with his buddies and a willing girl, so I bet Maria always knew that there was an element of risk.

Exactly. That punk ass had the nerve to think he could actually get away with it. I'm sure Maria finally discovered the truth and was the one to say "I wanna end this".

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Reply #106 posted 05/18/11 6:30pm

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HotGritz said:

^ spit That is so wrong!

the schwarzenegger baby pic i mean.

[Edited 5/18/11 11:28am]

It was posted on Media Take Out too.

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Reply #107 posted 05/18/11 6:32pm

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suga10 said:

HotGritz said:

^ spit That is so wrong!

the schwarzenegger baby pic i mean.

[Edited 5/18/11 11:28am]

It was posted on Media Take Out too.

I love that site. Not because they tell the truth, which they clearly don't, but because no site cracks a good joke like they do. Those numbnuts are truly gifted. lol

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Reply #108 posted 05/18/11 6:32pm

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KoolEaze said:

Cheating on your wife and fathering a child with someone else does not mean that they weren´t happily married. Nor does it mean that they can´t have that happiness again.This is a dude who was a real dog in his prime, and who even admitted to participating in gangbangs in the gym with his buddies and a willing girl, so I bet Maria always knew that there was an element of risk.

Exactly. That punk ass had the nerve to think he could actually get away with it. I'm sure Maria finally discovered the truth and was the one to say "I wanna end this".

He should have told his wife and public a long time ago. It really make him look like an ass for waiting this long.

[Edited 5/18/11 11:33am]

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Reply #109 posted 05/18/11 6:35pm

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hmmm How did Arnold have this one affair and end up with an outside kid but Tiger Woods has like 257 affairs and ends up with no outside kids?

I am thinking Arnold wanted to have both his wife and mistress knocked up at the same time. It's like project twins only with extra, extra government subsidies. lol

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Reply #110 posted 05/18/11 6:36pm

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According to TMZ, the lady never told Arnold she gave birth to his son, unti the kid was a toddler. Then Arnold started paying child support.

What a shady woman

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Reply #111 posted 05/18/11 6:37pm

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HotGritz said:

hmmm How did Arnold have this one affair and end up with an outside kid but Tiger Woods has like 257 affairs and ends up with no outside kids?

I am thinking Arnold wanted to have both his wife and mistress knocked up at the same time. It's like project twins only with extra, extra government subsidies. lol

Sounds very similar to California Raisin with Hazel and Margaret being pregnant at the same time.

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Reply #112 posted 05/18/11 7:01pm

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He's a philanderer, anyway.

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Reply #113 posted 05/18/11 7:11pm

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HotGritz said:

hmmm How did Arnold have this one affair and end up with an outside kid but Tiger Woods has like 257 affairs and ends up with no outside kids?

I am thinking Arnold wanted to have both his wife and mistress knocked up at the same time. It's like project twins only with extra, extra government subsidies. lol

Give it a few years...........

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Reply #114 posted 05/18/11 7:15pm

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Arnold was doomed from the get go. He is a triple threat.

Athlete, Entertainer and Politician all rolled into one. If that ain't the biggest warning sign, I don't know what is.

Just gettin' past the fact that this woman was walking around their house pregnant at the same time Maria was pregnant, kinda puts a nail in coffin of their marriage, if they get back together that would be a shocker.

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Reply #115 posted 05/18/11 7:26pm

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Arnold was doomed from the get go. He is a triple threat.

Athlete, Entertainer and Politician all rolled into one. If that ain't the biggest warning sign, I don't know what is.

Just gettin' past the fact that this woman was walking around their house pregnant at the same time Maria was pregnant, kinda puts a nail in coffin of their marriage, if they get back together that would be a shocker.

I think she's going to divorce him. It doesn't get any worse than this.

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Reply #116 posted 05/18/11 7:39pm

novabrkr

I've noticed that I'm feeling really horny after lifting weights. shrug

I can only imagine what it's like for someone like Arnold Schwarzenegger. shrug

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Reply #117 posted 05/18/11 7:41pm

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hah! the child's mother is named Mildred. Hope she doesn't physically fit her name. I could see him fucking an Amber, Sheila or a Marilyn but a Mildred?

There's nothing wrong with a good, old-fashioned name like Mildred... (remember how old they are, too.. lol wink )

plus, name doesn't matter; he's always had a serious thing for Latinas..

1) in 2006 http://articles.latimes.com/2006/sep/08/local/me-meeting8

[On the recording, Schwarzenegger's Democratic chief of staff, Susan Kennedy] offers praise for Assemblywoman Bonnie Garcia, the lone Latina Republican in the Legislature. The governor and Kennedy debate her ethnicity, and Schwarzenegger opines that whether she is Cuban or Puerto Rican doesn't matter much.

"I mean, they are all very hot," the governor says. "They have the, you know, part of the black blood in them and part of the Latino blood in them that together makes it."

He goes on to recall a former weightlifter and competitor, Cuban-born Sergio Oliva. "He was like that," Schwarzenegger says.

2) He also recorded this promotional video for Carnival in Rio when he was younger..

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/504922/arnold_schwarzenegger_at_carnival_in_rio

hmph! lol -- he's an "ass man"

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Reply #118 posted 05/18/11 8:17pm

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Timmy84 said:

Exactly. That punk ass had the nerve to think he could actually get away with it. I'm sure Maria finally discovered the truth and was the one to say "I wanna end this".

He should have told his wife and public a long time ago. It really make him look like an ass for waiting this long.

[Edited 5/18/11 11:33am]

He IS an ass. lol

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Reply #119 posted 05/18/11 8:21pm

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PositivityNYC said:

HotGritz said:

hah! the child's mother is named Mildred. Hope she doesn't physically fit her name. I could see him fucking an Amber, Sheila or a Marilyn but a Mildred?

There's nothing wrong with a good, old-fashioned name like Mildred... (remember how old they are, too.. lol wink )

plus, name doesn't matter; he's always had a serious thing for Latinas..

1) in 2006 http://articles.latimes.com/2006/sep/08/local/me-meeting8

[On the recording, Schwarzenegger's Democratic chief of staff, Susan Kennedy] offers praise for Assemblywoman Bonnie Garcia, the lone Latina Republican in the Legislature. The governor and Kennedy debate her ethnicity, and Schwarzenegger opines that whether she is Cuban or Puerto Rican doesn't matter much.

"I mean, they are all very hot," the governor says. "They have the, you know, part of the black blood in them and part of the Latino blood in them that together makes it."

He goes on to recall a former weightlifter and competitor, Cuban-born Sergio Oliva. "He was like that," Schwarzenegger says.

2) He also recorded this promotional video for Carnival in Rio when he was younger..

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/504922/arnold_schwarzenegger_at_carnival_in_rio

hmph! lol -- he's an "ass man"

falloff I remember that! Hilarious!

Oh but lawd,,,,he like big booty girls? eek

Actually...Maria got an ass on her now that I think about it.

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