TotalANXiousNESS said:

I have to say......I'm looking foward to a year without football. Sorry boys.

Cerebus said:

SCNDLS said:

Furthermore, I'd bet all my shoes that after going to court, losing the preseason, and possibly some regular season is gonna get the players NATHAN. I seriously doubt that when the smoke clears they'll get a better deal than what was on the table when negotiations stopped.

Do you have any idea whats going on with this negotiation at all? The players aren't asking for MORE. They're refusing to take a PAY CUT. There was no deal on the table other than one that took money out of their pockets. As I asked previously, would YOU take a pay cut if you were sure that your company was rolling in profits?

I don't believe there will be any games missed next season, either. There's too much money to be made. Unless the courts purposely drag it out (which they could do just to get a point across) I expect this to be over fairly soon. Nothing about the off season really matters until mid to late July, anyway.

Well todays moronic statement from Running Back Adrian Petersen comparing playing in the NFL to modern day slavery is just plain dumb, and they just lost alot of support with that. Now true some old players are having issues with medical benefits when they are out of the game and things like that but, slavery?? the quote is not even out of context he said he stands by it! Considering that there are people in america that lose their homes if they get sick and have no coverage, this rich fucking prick is crying about being a "slave" playing a fucking game and getting paid millions for it. The Nfl will mostly like miss games this year, the deadline is June for the schedule to be on track with warm ups and things like that.

Cerebus said:

SCNDLS said:

But how is that different than ANY other money making enterprise or industry??? If I work for Bank of America and can SEE and VERIFY from their financial records that they are making more money than last year, yet they don't give me a raise or bonus, I have NO recourse and can't demand that they give me more money. The only choices I have are to stay for the current pay or quit and find a better paying job.

In contrast, the players actually got MOST of their demands which woulda prolly been a wash with the extra money the league wanted.

Again, you clearly don't understand what is happening. The players are being asked to take a PAY CUT. And they're being asked to do so while the consideration of two more games is being discussed. Not to mention the fact that there was NO signed deal that included ANY of the other demands they've made regarding health care (which BofA supplies, I know, because I worked there for quite a while). The players aren't demanding a raise, the OWNERS are. Its really quite simple.

Apparently, not for everybody.

I was listening to Mike Francesca's show, and he was reading off the numbers the league makes - even the low-end teams are making a profit.

[Edited 3/16/11 21:23pm]

uPtoWnNY said:

Cerebus said:

Again, you clearly don't understand what is happening. The players are being asked to take a PAY CUT. And they're being asked to do so while the consideration of two more games is being discussed. Not to mention the fact that there was NO signed deal that included ANY of the other demands they've made regarding health care (which BofA supplies, I know, because I worked there for quite a while). The players aren't demanding a raise, the OWNERS are. Its really quite simple.

Apparently, not for everybody.

I was listening to Mike Francesca's show, and he was reading off the numbers the league makes - even the low-end teams are making a profit.

[Edited 3/16/11 21:23pm]

But remember, it's like "any other job" LMAO!

SonOfSoul said:

angel345 said:

I am not an NFL fan, but have you slapped Prince yet? Not the best choice of words on his part, but I hope you see where this is going.

I'da slapped P's ass, too!

Yeah, yeah I would pay to see that one, Anderson too

Graycap23 said:

Greed is interesting 2 watch.....................

In a nutshell, that's all there is

angel345 said:

SonOfSoul said:

I'da slapped P's ass, too!

Yeah, yeah I would pay to see that one, Anderson too

Cerebus said:

The players aren't asking for MORE. They're refusing to take a PAY CUT. There was no deal on the table other than one that took money out of their pockets. As I asked previously, would YOU take a pay cut if you were sure that your company was rolling in profits?

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Bingo. Really it's this simple. It's my understanding at present, NFL players recieve sixty percent of whatever the league makes above a billion dollars. The owners think that's too much and want players to accept sixty per cent of all revenue above two billion, which works out to be a pay cut of some 600 hundrend million dollars. Rule of thumb for LABOR, you never give back or take a paycut. In many instances the NFL functions like a cartel. Instead of competeting against each other for TV money, the owners share it, reducing rick and guaranteeing steady revenue regard-less of how well they run their teams. In other words no NFL franchise ever loses money. What NFL owners are trying to do is undermine free market principles, that's how salaries or set.

P.S. NFL player don't have damn thing to do with millions of Americans losing their homes.

Many of you are quite knowledeable about the negotiation strategies in the league. I just wanna see hot guys in tight pants mowing each other down like military tanks.

The same BS went on over a decade ago with Baseball and the people now that are arguing on the behalf of the players as the "wounded" were trashing Baseball players as rich pricks. First point the average NFL player makes alot more than a Baseball player, a bigger majority of Football players are mutli million dollar players while Baseball has less. Just because you hear Alex Rodriguez getting 32 million a year or whatever thats by far the run of the mill. Many football players get millions without playing a game, while in baseball its a one in million shot that u will get that kind of money out of draft. So cut the BS and double standard because now its a sport U like more, the point is that YES the owners are making zillions of dollars, and yes its much like a music label, well, no one is forcing u to play the game, go solo, go play in that arena football league if you hate it that much, no one loses in this but the consumer, with ticket prices already WAY overpriced for a fucking game, fans lose owners and players win regardless.

Oh wow, look at that, Goodell is bypassing the NFLPA and appealing to the players directly informing them of the LAST OFFER THAT WAS ON THE TABLE that gave them most, if not all their demands, before talks broke down.

Now that the NFL Players' Association has decertified, essentially changing its status from union to trade organization in order to facilitate the Brady v. NFL antitrust lawsuit, the NFL itself has taken things a step further. In a letter sent from league commissioner to each current player, and reportedly not to any member of the NFLPA, the league is taking the radical step of pretending that the NFLPA doesn't represent the players in any capacity.

It's a risky move (which was first reported by CBS Spo...ke Freeman), and Goodell's obviously trying to make a point — if the union decertifies, it has no standing to act as a representative entity. The only problem there is that the players have, by whatever means, asked that the NFLPA represent then in ongoing negotiations or litigation or whatever path this ongoing labor battle takes. Moreover, in reinforcing the "last best offer" to the players before talk broke down last Friday, Goodell seems to intimate that the players may not have been made aware of the point-by-point aspects of the NFL's last proposal.

It's a risky move to be sure, and not just in that it could obliterate any level of trust left between the two sides. The NFL has a pending action with the National Labor Relations Board, claiming that the NFLPA's decertification was a sham designed for the sole point of mediation. But if Goodell bypasses the NFLPA and speaks directly to the players in a way that has never been done throughout these negotiations, he runs the risk if validating the need for decertification in the first place, and invalidating the NFL's contention that the NFLPA is still acting as it always has before. It's also telling that Goodell refers to the NFLPA to the players as "your union."

The validity of Goodell's claims can and will be argued on both sides, as both sides engage in a propaganda war rivaling the most ridiculous political campaign. But the overriding fact here is that Goodell has gone to the mattresses and bypassed the agency that the players have always trusted. This could backfire on the league in multiple ways and make the chasm between the two sides even wider. The real over-the-top aspect is that this letter was sent as the NFLPA was conducting its annual meetings in Florida.

Here's the full text of the letter after the jump.

Dear NFL player,

As you know, negotiations between the NFL Players Association and the clubs have not led to an agreement. Last Friday, the NFLPA Walked out of the federal mediator's offices in Washington, told us that it had abandoned its right to represent you as a union, and filed a lawsuit. Some hours later, the clubs instituted a lockout.

The clubs believe that there is only one way to resolve our differences, and that is through good faith collective bargaining in an atmosphere of mutual respect and open communication. We have said publicly, told the federal mediator, and say to you that we are prepared to resume those negotiations at any time.

We want you to understand the offer that we made to the NFLPA. The proposal was made to avoid a work stoppage. Each passing day puts our game and our shared economics further at risk. We believe the offer presented a strong and fair basis for continuing negotiations, allowing the new league year and free agency to begin, and growing our game in the years to come.

Here are the key elements of the proposal:

- A salary cap for 2011 that would avoid a negative financial impact on veteran players. We offered to meet the Union at the mid-point between our previous offer and the Union's demand. Under our offer, 2011 salary and benefits would have been set at $141 million per club, and projected cash spending would have been as high or higher than in either 2009 or 2010. By 2014, salary and benefits would have been set at $161 million per club. In other Words, player compensation would increase by as much as $20 million per club by 2014.

-Free agency for players with four or more accrued seasons and reduced draft choice compensation for restricted free agents.

-Extensive changes in off-season work requirements that would promote player health and safety, encourage players to continue their education, and promote second career opportunities. The off-season program would be reduced by five weeks, OTAs would be reduced from 14, to helmets would be prohibited for the first five weeks of workouts, and rules prohibiting "1ive" on-field contact would be strictly enforced.

-Changes in preseason and regular season practices and schedules that would reduce the number of padded practices, reduce the amount of contact, and increase the number of days off for you and other players.

-Commit to retain the current 16-game regular season format for at least the next two seasons, and further commit not to change to an 18- game regular season without the Union's agreement.

-Expand injury guarantees for players. The clubs offered to guarantee up to $1 million of a second_ ear of your contract if you are injured and cannot return to play.

-For the first time, players and families would be able to purchase continuing coverage in the player medical plan after retirement for life, and could use their health savings account benefit to do so.

-Enhanced retirement benefits for pre-1993 players. More than 2,000 former players would have received an immediate increase in their pensions averaging nearly 60 percent, funded entirely by the owners.

-A new entry-level compensation system that would make more than $300 million per draft class available for veterans' pay and player benefits. The new system would preserve individual negotiations not a wage scale - and would allow players drafted in rounds 2 through 7 to earn as much or more than they earn today.

-Significant changes in disciplinary procedures, including a jointly-appointed neutral arbitrator to hear all drug and steroid appeals.

Working together, players and clubs have made the game great. Our fans want us to find common ground, settle our differences, and come to a fair agreement. I have met with many of you since becoming Commissioner. You know of my respect and admiration for you as men and as players. We need to come together, and soon.

In that spirit, we are prepared to negotiate a full agreement that would incorporate these features and other progressive changes that would benefit players, clubs, and fans. Only through collective bargaining will we reach that kind of agreement. Our goal is to make our league even better than it is today, with the benefits shared by all of us.

I hope you will encourage your Union to return to the bargaining table and conclude a new collective bargaining agreement.

Sincerely,
Roger

[Edited 3/17/11 21:25pm]

Its nothing but a polite scare tactic and another attempt to make the players look bad in the public eye (one of the most unfortunate things about this entire mess is how both sides are playing the fans). He's trying to get them to settle before they go to court April 6th because neither he nor the owners want a judge to order them to open the books. Its also only one side of the argument. Because if that's what the owners can offer, working under the assumption that they would still be taking more of the profits (as they've desired all along), then how much money are the REALLY making already? That's the point the players are trying to make. Its nice that Roger and the owners are making it look like they're giving so much to the players (admittedly, those bullet points do address some of the players health care and off season safety concerns), but if they're giving that much while taking away from the players percentage of the pie its still not enough. Keep in mind, to the best of my knowledge, there has been no demands from the players for salary increases. Only a desire for an explanation of why the owners should be able to change the current financial agreement. I've never heard a player or the Player's Association say that they wouldn't agree to the owners request if they could just supply proof that its a needed change.

lastdecember said:

The same BS went on over a decade ago with Baseball and the people now that are arguing on the behalf of the players as the "wounded" were trashing Baseball players as rich pricks. First point the average NFL player makes alot more than a Baseball player, a bigger majority of Football players are mutli million dollar players while Baseball has less. Just because you hear Alex Rodriguez getting 32 million a year or whatever thats by far the run of the mill. Many football players get millions without playing a game, while in baseball its a one in million shot that u will get that kind of money out of draft. So cut the BS and double standard because now its a sport U like more, the point is that YES the owners are making zillions of dollars, and yes its much like a music label, well, no one is forcing u to play the game, go solo, go play in that arena football league if you hate it that much, no one loses in this but the consumer, with ticket prices already WAY overpriced for a fucking game, fans lose owners and players win regardless.

Football players beat the snot out of each other. Baseball players stand around adjusting their cups. Football players play with broken bones. Baseball players sit out for days at a time if they stretch wrong. Regardless, from doing only a few minutes of research it appears to me that the average and base pay for a MLB player is higher than that of an NFL player.

Some answers I found while searching for "what is the base salary for a MLB player?"

Answer

The minimum salary for an MLB player is $380,000.

The minimum MLB played salary in 2008 was $390,000. 2009 figures have not yet been released.

MLB

Some answers I found when searching for "what is the base NFL salary?"

The average NFL salary is currently $1.1 million dollars and the average length of career is 3.5 years.

Base salary for a rookie I think is $325k a year and goes up a little every year.

Q: What is the minimum base salary for an NFL player in 2010?

A: Rookies and first-year players start out at $285,000 per year

For the 2007 season (which means it did not change from 2007-2010), minimum salaries in the NFL are:
Rookies - $285,000
One Year Veteran - $360,000
Two Year Veteran - $435,000
Three Year Veteran - $510,000
Four to Six Year Veteran - $595,000
Seven to Nine Year Veteran - $720,000
Ten+ Year Veteran - $820,000

The Average Base Salary of nfl team Player

1. The average base salary of NFL Team Player was $990,000, but players can make much more money than that, according to a analysis of nfl salary databases.
2. Signing bonuses are the ways that most players make their money. The average signing bonus for all players is $1.34 million, which is a large number considering that almost 600 players don’t have one in their current contract.
3. Players can sign various other bonuses into their contracts, which unlike signing bonuses, count as part of the total salary. That average was $440,000 during the 2008 season.
4. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers spent a little more than $1.4 million per player in the 2008 season. That included 37 players making more than $1 million. The Green Bay Packers had the lowest median average at $640,000.

http://content.usatoday.com/sportsdata/football/nfl/salaries/team

Also, for anybody who thinks the owners have (or should have) all the power, I read a very interesting article today. Now that the Player's Association has been dissolved, the players CAN go and play for anybody they like. They could even start their own league, coach themselves and sign their own TV rights. They could sign with one of the other leagues and those owners could sign the TV rights contract. And those owners (in the CFL and UFL) aren't making billions of dollars, so they would be quite happy to split their new found profits with the players. By doing so they would a) prove that they're willing to play for less (because they would), b) show that they really care about playing the game but just don't want to be jerked around financially while doing so, and c) leave a bunch of rich stadium owners bleeding money (which is the last thing they want).

[Edited 3/17/11 23:43pm]

Cerebus said:

lastdecember said:

The same BS went on over a decade ago with Baseball and the people now that are arguing on the behalf of the players as the "wounded" were trashing Baseball players as rich pricks. First point the average NFL player makes alot more than a Baseball player, a bigger majority of Football players are mutli million dollar players while Baseball has less. Just because you hear Alex Rodriguez getting 32 million a year or whatever thats by far the run of the mill. Many football players get millions without playing a game, while in baseball its a one in million shot that u will get that kind of money out of draft. So cut the BS and double standard because now its a sport U like more, the point is that YES the owners are making zillions of dollars, and yes its much like a music label, well, no one is forcing u to play the game, go solo, go play in that arena football league if you hate it that much, no one loses in this but the consumer, with ticket prices already WAY overpriced for a fucking game, fans lose owners and players win regardless.

Football players beat the snot out of each other. Baseball players stand around adjusting their cups. Football players play with broken bones. Baseball players sit out for days at a time if they stretch wrong. Regardless, from doing only a few minutes of research it appears to me that the average and base pay for a MLB player is higher than that of an NFL player.

Some answers I found while searching for "what is the base salary for a MLB player?"

Answer

The minimum salary for an MLB player is $380,000.

The minimum MLB played salary in 2008 was $390,000. 2009 figures have not yet been released.

2010 MLB Salaries by Team

TEAM	TOTAL PAYROLL	AVG SALARY	MEDIAN	STD DEV
New York Yankees	$ 206,333,389	$ 8,253,335	$ 5,500,000	$ 9,267,187
Boston Red Sox	$ 162,447,333	$ 5,601,632	$ 3,750,000	$ 5,100,972
Chicago Cubs	$ 146,609,000	$ 5,429,962	$ 2,125,000	$ 6,625,154
Philadelphia Phillies	$ 141,928,379	$ 5,068,870	$ 2,750,000	$ 5,362,862
New York Mets	$ 134,422,942	$ 4,800,819	$ 1,375,000	$ 5,850,033
Detroit Tigers	$ 122,864,928	$ 4,550,552	$ 1,500,000	$ 5,770,275
Chicago White Sox	$ 105,530,000	$ 4,058,846	$ 2,500,000	$ 4,400,865
Los Angeles Angels	$ 104,963,866	$ 3,619,443	$ 2,050,000	$ 4,080,627
San Francisco Giants	$ 98,641,333	$ 3,522,904	$ 910,000	$ 4,556,395
Minnesota Twins	$ 97,559,166	$ 3,484,255	$ 1,800,000	$ 4,027,577
Los Angeles Dodgers	$ 95,358,016	$ 3,531,778	$ 1,000,000	$ 4,595,826
St. Louis Cardinals	$ 93,540,751	$ 3,741,630	$ 1,000,000	$ 5,075,085
Houston Astros	$ 92,355,500	$ 3,298,410	$ 1,325,000	$ 4,847,410
Seattle Mariners	$ 86,510,000	$ 3,089,642	$ 1,118,750	$ 4,193,128
Atlanta Braves	$ 84,423,666	$ 3,126,802	$ 1,150,000	$ 4,096,206
Colorado Rockies	$ 84,227,000	$ 2,904,379	$ 1,300,000	$ 3,798,234
Baltimore Orioles	$ 81,612,500	$ 3,138,942	$ 1,325,000	$ 3,399,398
Milwaukee Brewers	$ 81,108,278	$ 2,796,837	$ 1,287,500	$ 3,331,815
Tampa Bay Rays	$ 71,923,471	$ 2,663,832	$ 1,800,000	$ 2,958,069
Cincinnati Reds	$ 71,761,542	$ 2,760,059	$ 485,000	$ 3,940,122
Kansas City Royals	$ 71,405,210	$ 2,644,637	$ 1,700,000	$ 3,214,399
Toronto Blue Jays	$ 62,234,000	$ 2,074,466	$ 825,000	$ 3,108,950
Washington Nationals	$ 61,400,000	$ 2,046,666	$ 725,000	$ 2,861,545
Cleveland Indians	$ 61,203,966	$ 2,110,481	$ 427,500	$ 3,408,500
Arizona Diamondbacks	$ 60,718,166	$ 2,335,314	$ 1,416,666	$ 2,369,465
Florida Marlins	$ 57,029,719	$ 2,112,211	$ 550,000	$ 2,691,680
Texas Rangers	$ 55,250,544	$ 1,905,191	$ 510,000	$ 2,751,240
Oakland Athletics	$ 51,654,900	$ 1,666,287	$ 420,000	$ 2,884,030
San Diego Padres	$ 37,799,300	$ 1,453,819	$ 421,750	$ 1,751,078
Pittsburgh Pirates	$ 34,943,000	$ 1,294,185	$ 452,000	$ 1,479,520

MLB

Average Player Salary
Year	Average	Pct. change
1989	$512,804	N/A
1990	$578,930	12.9
1991	$891,188	53.9
1992	$1,084,408	21.7
1993	$1,120,254	3.3
1994	$1,188,679	6.1
1995-x	$1,071,029	(-9.9)
1996	$1,176,967	9.9
1997	$1,383,578	17.6
1998	$1,441,406	4.2
1999	$1,720,050	19.3
2000	$1,998,034	15.6
2001	$2,264,403	13.9
2002	$2,383,235	5.2
2003	$2,555,476	7.2
2004	$2,486,609	(-2.7)
2005	$2,632,655	5.9
2006	$2,866,544	8.9
2007	$2,944,556	2.7
2008	$3,154,845	7.1
2009	$3,240,206	2.7
2010	$3,297,828	1.8

Some answers I found when searching for "what is the base NFL salary?"

The average NFL salary is currently $1.1 million dollars and the average length of career is 3.5 years.

Base salary for a rookie I think is $325k a year and goes up a little every year.

Q: What is the minimum base salary for an NFL player in 2010?

---

A: Rookies and first-year players start out at $285,000 per year

For the 2007 season (which means it did not change from 2007-2010), minimum salaries in the NFL are:
Rookies - $285,000
One Year Veteran - $360,000
Two Year Veteran - $435,000
Three Year Veteran - $510,000
Four to Six Year Veteran - $595,000
Seven to Nine Year Veteran - $720,000
Ten+ Year Veteran - $820,000

The Average Base Salary of nfl team Player

1. The average base salary of NFL Team Player was $990,000, but players can make much more money than that, according to a analysis of nfl salary databases.
2. Signing bonuses are the ways that most players make their money. The average signing bonus for all players is $1.34 million, which is a large number considering that almost 600 players don’t have one in their current contract.
3. Players can sign various other bonuses into their contracts, which unlike signing bonuses, count as part of the total salary. That average was $440,000 during the 2008 season.
4. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers spent a little more than $1.4 million per player in the 2008 season. That included 37 players making more than $1 million. The Green Bay Packers had the lowest median average at $640,000.

http://content.usatoday.com/sportsdata/football/nfl/salaries/team

2009-10 NFL Salaries by Team

TEAM	TOTAL PAYROLL	AVG SALARY	MEDIAN	STD DEV
New York Giants	$ 138,354,866	$ 2,470,622	$ 890,000	$ 3,718,306
Miami Dolphins	$ 126,383,421	$ 2,256,846	$ 978,290	$ 3,206,135
Houston Texans	$ 122,258,610	$ 2,037,643	$ 848,640	$ 3,159,274
New Orleans Saints	$ 121,552,424	$ 1,992,662	$ 870,000	$ 2,580,010
Chicago Bears	$ 120,672,110	$ 2,154,859	$ 820,616	$ 3,353,848
New York Jets	$ 120,634,420	$ 2,079,903	$ 762,750	$ 2,776,685
Pittsburgh Steelers	$ 119,292,960	$ 2,056,775	$ 792,500	$ 2,761,268
San Diego Chargers	$ 117,458,935	$ 2,025,154	$ 927,880	$ 3,540,888
Green Bay Packers	$ 113,959,603	$ 1,931,518	$ 812,500	$ 2,647,804
Tennessee Titans	$ 113,494,050	$ 2,141,397	$ 1,010,000	$ 2,099,092
Carolina Panthers	$ 112,963,398	$ 1,947,644	$ 823,700	$ 3,120,365
Oakland Raiders	$ 111,527,250	$ 2,065,319	$ 830,000	$ 2,634,432
Buffalo Bills	$ 111,253,126	$ 1,765,922	$ 771,000	$ 2,014,947
Arizona Cardinals	$ 111,138,646	$ 1,984,618	$ 812,440	$ 3,074,368
Baltimore Ravens	$ 109,503,397	$ 1,795,137	$ 735,760	$ 2,667,159
Jacksonville Jaguars	$ 106,879,214	$ 1,875,073	$ 817,450	$ 2,596,032
Philadelphia Eagles	$ 106,493,095	$ 1,804,967	$ 1,017,280	$ 2,412,917
San Francisco 49ers	$ 103,738,952	$ 1,957,338	$ 1,177,280	$ 2,259,187
Indianapolis Colts	$ 103,360,985	$ 1,782,085	$ 542,280	$ 3,159,957
Denver Broncos	$ 101,658,735	$ 1,918,089	$ 1,016,370	$ 2,125,478
Washington Redskins	$ 99,953,611	$ 1,784,885	$ 901,500	$ 2,098,759
Detroit Lions	$ 99,910,434	$ 1,693,397	$ 896,040	$ 1,783,126
Minnesota Vikings	$ 99,802,010	$ 1,919,269	$ 952,665	$ 2,309,590
St. Louis Rams	$ 99,707,892	$ 1,661,798	$ 537,990	$ 3,016,850
New England Patriots	$ 96,913,133	$ 1,642,595	$ 857,280	$ 1,664,966
Atlanta Falcons	$ 95,062,952	$ 1,728,417	$ 877,280	$ 2,198,487
Cleveland Browns	$ 93,932,182	$ 1,647,933	$ 870,000	$ 1,789,584
Cincinnati Bengals	$ 93,840,588	$ 1,617,941	$ 623,965	$ 2,179,741
Dallas Cowboys	$ 90,340,939	$ 1,613,231	$ 818,265	$ 2,339,350
Seattle Seahawks	$ 89,075,820	$ 1,649,552	$ 917,875	$ 1,750,118
Tampa Bay Buccaneers	$ 84,592,822	$ 1,458,496	$ 735,880	$ 1,774,029
Kansas City Chiefs	$ 81,829,650	$ 1,410,856	$ 560,000	$ 2,596,781

first thing is that when u look at this you see that if you took Baseball's top 8-10 big market teams away (ex Mets Yankees Cubs RedSox) you have the lowest salary football team being paid more than the remaining basbeball teams, the NFL is more a share the wealth sport than Baseball is, since there is no cap, a team like the yankees can pay where as a team like the pirates cant pay, two totally different systems cant be compared that way.

As for playing, Football players may play a rougher sport (though hockey far exceeds that) most players are not in on every play, most are paid that never get in a game at all, take a backup quarterback for the NY Jets who hadnt thrown a pass till the last game of the year. Also football plays once a week and has one week where there is a week off, baseball plays basically everyday and the travel is insane, football players would drop dead if they had to play that amount of games or do that kind of traveling. Most games are played within their own divisions and that cuts down on their traveling.

As for standing around, 90% of a football team stands around the whole game and never plays, so thats apples and oranges, injuries are injuries, there are more concussions suffered in Baseball then in Football, why? Both sports have their dangers, sure Football is more contact, but i have seen more horrific injuries in Baseball than in Football, take Jon Niese of the Mets snapping his leg in half a few years ago covering a base, missed a whole 162 game season on that, or Jason Bay who ran into a whole and suffered a concussion that kept reoccuring all year, try getting hit in head with a 90mph fastball which occurs alot more than ever in baseball now.