Graycap23 said:

I know that there are biological evidence supporting people that are born homosexual. What about people who are bi-sexual? Were they born this way or are they just greedy?

This is a serious question.

Maybe using the word "greedy" was a poor choice. Maybe this will help, I finally found it....

What Do Woman Want?

Study suggests difference between female and women sexuality

To join the chorus, I think for some their sexuality is fluid . . it's not to be pigeonholed to what others think they should feel towards their sex or the opposite sex; I find many hetro-

sexual and homosexual are kinda rigid about this subject. I've known woman who've given up on, tired, and frustrated with men (for a host of reasons) and now seek emotional and sexual relationships with women. For them it's that matter of fact but no, throw that line of thought out there and you have people questioning their honesty and motives. I say live let live, consenting adults hetro, homo, bi, pan, trans, tri -sexuals can do whatever, if you are happy I'm happy for ya.

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Bisexuality is more taboo than homosexuality is. It's like it's more natural to love a woman if you're straight or a man if you're gay but if you claim you're emotionally and sexually attracted to both, that's a problem. That's why people have a hard time understanding each other because it's either you gotta be straight or totally gay while bisexuals are accused of either being greedy or confused. And pansexuality is more taboo because it seems inhuman that people can be attracted by men, women and mtf/ftm/transgender/intersexual individuals.

By the way, I get where you're going @ SagsWay2low.

TD3 said:

Graycap23 said:

I know that there are biological evidence supporting people that are born homosexual. What about people who are bi-sexual? Were they born this way or are they just greedy?

This is a serious question.

Maybe using the word "greedy" was a poor choice. Maybe this will help, I finally found it....

What Do Woman Want?

Study suggests difference between female and women sexuality

To join the chorus, I think for some their sexuality is fluid . . it's not to be pigeonholed to what others think they should feel towards their sex or the opposite sex; I find many hetro-

sexual and homosexual are kinda rigid about this subject. I've known woman who've given up on, tired, and frustrated by men (for a host of reasons) and now seek emotional and sexual relationships with women. For them it's that matter of fact but no, throw that line of thought out there and you have people questioning their honesty and motives. I say live let live, consenting adults hetro, homo, bi, pan, trans, tri -sexuals can do whatever, if you are happy I'm happy for ya.

There's too many types of bisexuals to generalize. I'm fine with bisexual women who may sleep with a woman for a while or a man for a while but do not sleep with both of them at the same time. I'm fine with them having threesomes with two other women or even two other men but I am not fine with them have a threesome with a man and another woman, in other words, "letting a man join in". Why? Because the men they are letting "join in" are the ones who are hypocrits and hate us gay men but think that it's OK for two women though as long as they let them join in so their perverted pleasure can be met. Don't never let those hypocritacal bastards get that pleasure. They hate us and they are the enemy. Yeah, it's fine to let them join in if they will also suck another dick themselves but if they want you to eat some damn pussy but they won't suck a dick themselves, then tell them to go to hell. Why should they want you to be with the same sex when they won't do the same thing themselves? That means they think you are trash that is beneath them so you should never let their little fanstasy come true.

I'm also not fine with bisexual men who call themselves straight. If another man sucks your damn dick, I don't give a damn how much pussy turns you on, but if you let another man other than the doctor so much as even touch your damn dick, you are NOT straight. These type of men who are in denial like that are what are known as "trade" and they are the worst gay bashers in the world because they think they are straight. They actually do hate us but they like the pleasure we can give them. And yes, these type of bisexuals, "trade", ARE greedy. They are greedy as hell. Anything that will give them a nut, they will sleep with whether it's a woman, a man, a drag queen, hell, they'd fuck a sheep if it would stand still long enough.

I'm fine with any bisexual who acknowledges that they are actually bisexual and not straight. I'm also fine with those who fight for our causes and want us all to be equal and that means going against other bisexuals who aren't for equality and are hypocrits. In other words, any bisexual that thinks they are above us homosexuals, can kiss my ass and rot in the hottest fires of hell for all I care. But a bisexual who's with us and for us, I'm cool with. It's a war for equal rights and equal treatment and you're either with us or you're against us, there's no middle ground inbetween. It's us against the people that hate us and I don't have no time for no confused mixed up bastards that want our pleasure but don't want to fight our fight and don't have the fucking guts to face the discrimination we face. They want all the pleasure with none of the consequences.

Are bisexuals born that way? I don't know because I'm not a bisexual. I can only speak for myself as a homosexual and yes, I was born this way.

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Deadflow3r said:

PunkMistress said:

You may be serious about it, but it's a stupid question.

"Born this way" suggests that you're born liking both sexes.

"Just greedy" still assumes that you like both sexes - why would you be greedy for something you have no interest in?

So asking whether bisexuals are "born this way" OR" just greedy" doesn't make sense.

You're not the first person to ask this question by a long shot. I just don't get it.

That you would not remotely get the greedy thing makes perfect sense to me because you are the polar opposite of greedy. Just like the north pole and the south pole look alike but are as far a part as can be, so too bisexuals and the greedy look alike but they are not necessarily the same person.

If the neighbor is Ms Greedy then her focus is on herself. If a man licks her or a women licks her what is the difference? Not a whole lot, so as long as she is getting licked she does not care. Same goes for dick, just how different is it to be penetrated by a penis vs a strap on? As long as she is gettng what she wants, and getting off she doesn't care. Whether or not her partner gets off is not really of any interest to her. She is the type that loves bulldagger who will let her just lie there and be done. She won't do anything but lay there and look pretty.

If it is a Mr Greedy we are talking about he is the type that vainandy hates. He wants somebody to suck his dick and lend him their butt hole for the night. It is all about him. ON one thread vainandy talked about getting these punks almost off and then telling them that unless they sucked his dick he wasn't going to do another thing.

These people are not relating others as people, basically every sex partner they have is just a walking talking sex toy.

Where you love to get others off orally, these people avoid it if they can.

Why did no one read my post!!!!!!!!!

My points are valid.

Some people are quite capable of having sex with someone they are not physically attracted to because that someone is willing to perform a sex act that will get them off.

I think some of these people are simply sex addicts. Just like alcoholics who prefer wine but will drink anything alcoholic when desperate enough because they simply want to get drunk. There are people who are gay or straight and will have sex with whomever as long as that person is willing to service them. I have known lesbians that have gotten drunk and gone home with men. They did not all of a sudden discover their bisexuality.

vainandy said:

There's too many types of bisexuals to generalize. I'm fine with bisexual women who may sleep with a woman for a while or a man for a while but do not sleep with both of them at the same time. I'm fine with them having threesomes with two other women or even two other men but I am not fine with them have a threesome with a man and another woman, in other words, "letting a man join in". Why? Because the men they are letting "join in" are the ones who are hypocrits and hate us gay men but think that it's OK for two women though as long as they let them join in so their perverted pleasure can be met. Don't never let those hypocritacal bastards get that pleasure. They hate us and they are the enemy. Yeah, it's fine to let them join in if they will also suck another dick themselves but if they want you to eat some damn pussy but they won't suck a dick themselves, then tell them to go to hell. Why should they want you to be with the same sex when they won't do the same thing themselves? That means they think you are trash that is beneath them so you should never let their little fanstasy come true.

I'm also not fine with bisexual men who call themselves straight. If another man sucks your damn dick, I don't give a damn how much pussy turns you on, but if you let another man other than the doctor so much as even touch your damn dick, you are NOT straight. These type of men who are in denial like that are what are known as "trade" and they are the worst gay bashers in the world because they think they are straight. They actually do hate us but they like the pleasure we can give them. And yes, these type of bisexuals, "trade", ARE greedy. They are greedy as hell. Anything that will give them a nut, they will sleep with whether it's a woman, a man, a drag queen, hell, they'd fuck a sheep if it would stand still long enough.

I'm fine with any bisexual who acknowledges that they are actually bisexual and not straight. I'm also fine with those who fight for our causes and want us all to be equal and that means going against other bisexuals who aren't for equality and are hypocrits. In other words, any bisexual that thinks they are above us homosexuals, can kiss my ass and rot in the hottest fires of hell for all I care. But a bisexual who's with us and for us, I'm cool with. It's a war for equal rights and equal treatment and you're either with us or you're against us, there's no middle ground inbetween. It's us against the people that hate us and I don't have no time for no confused mixed up bastards that want our pleasure but don't want to fight our fight and don't have the fucking guts to face the discrimination we face. They want all the pleasure with none of the consequences.

Are bisexuals born that way? I don't know because I'm not a bisexual. I can only speak for myself as a homosexual and yes, I was born this way.

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I agree with everything you say except the highlighted part. I think if a man can stick his dick in an animal and not be sexuallyattracted to that animal but do it to just get off, why can't he use a gay man's orafice the same way?

When straight men go to prison, many of them will be letting or even forcing other men to suck their dick or bend over. Part of it is dominance and part just wanting sex.

I believe that some people are born bisexual because their are very few clear lines in nature. I also believe that many bisexuals have an attraction to both but a preference to one or the other.

ZombieKitten said:

PunkMistress said:

No need to be a condescending dick.

I didn't understand what he meant, because it still doesn't jive to me for someone to be greedy for something they don't have an innate desire for.

Sex with men and sex with women: I've done both and they're two different things. A straight man can be as greedy for sex as Kirstie Alley is greedy for cheesecake - he'll never be greedy enough to fuck another man, because he's not a homosexual or a bisexual.

The just greedy angle just doesn't jive for me, sorry.

And for your information, my panties were in a bunch because I was premenstrual!

No need to make excuses!!! it's true, nobody fucks someone they are repulsed by unless it's to make a living.

There may be bi-curious girls out there, but if they are doing girls as much as they doing boys, they must have the hots for them too! I don't think people choose to go against norms and fuck people they don't feel any desire for, just because they are greedy People DO however, again and again, stay in the closet to NOT go against norms and get married and shit

I disagree! Sex addicts will fuck anything, even the ugliest dullard if they think that person will get them off.

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Also all this talk reminds me of the movie "Chasing Amy". In the end was the character gay, straight bi or just someone who had a lot of issues around sex and sexuality?

Do you really think that all those women that fuck Hugh Heffner are into his body? As you say, the are doing it to make a living.

Well the original poster wanted to know what is up with his roomate.

She could be bisexual and literally jumping back and forth over the fence on a aweekly basis.

She could be making money as a Ho.

She could be a sex addict who will bring home anything verses spend the night alone.

I don't think that all bisexuals abuse sex.

I don't think that all people that abuse sex are bisexual either.

Small story.

I use to waitress at this place where this very pretty young waitress had a horrible reputation of making herself available to any man who worked their. They all had her and they all laughed about her.

Next thing you know, she discovered she was a lesbian.

For about 18 months she was cruising the gay scene and flirting with the ladies. She was over men, she only liked women now.

Next thing I heard she was engaged to a guy and soon to be married. He may have been one of the Mexican line cooks who needed a greencard. Don't recall.

The Point I am trying to make is that this chick had issues that she thought would be resolved by opening up the dating pool to both men and women. The reason why men treated he like a ho was because she had no self respect and acted like one.

Lastly,a straight man enters one of those booths where you put your dick into a hole and someone sucks it off and you don't know who it is. Now if the person doing the sucking is a 500 pound gay man and that 500 pound gay man gets that straight man off does that make the straight man gay and a chubby chaser to boot??? Of course not. Some people don't need a booth. They can block out what the person doing the servicing looks like without it.

HotGritz said:

Graycap23 said:

I should prefaced my question. I have a neighbor (female) One week, she is strickly straight and has no more interest in woman................the next week, she is 100% lesbian and has not interest in men. I'm trying 2 understand her behavior. She has been going back and forth 4 years now. Every time I turn around, she has a new mate. I don't get it.

Do her mates by chance have money? She may be a closet prostitute.

Other possibilities: loneliness, whoredom, sex addiction, love addiction, seeking attention, unresolved childhood trauma. Maybe she is just really confused or perhaps she is just experimenting.

You should just ask her what her deal is. Get all up in her business.

I could just picture somebody doing this! Just go knocking on their door like you"re their new AVON representative and hit them with a list of important questions that you just NEED to know.

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Deadflow3r said:

HotGritz said:

Do her mates by chance have money? She may be a closet prostitute.

Other possibilities: loneliness, whoredom, sex addiction, love addiction, seeking attention, unresolved childhood trauma. Maybe she is just really confused or perhaps she is just experimenting.

You should just ask her what her deal is. Get all up in her business.

I could just picture somebody doing this! Just go knocking on their door like you"re their new AVON representative and hit them with a list of important questions that you just NEED to know.

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She told me that "God" told her that she should ONLY be with men................and a month later she was back with a woman.

Graycap23 said:

Deadflow3r said:

I could just picture somebody doing this! Just go knocking on their door like you"re their new AVON representative and hit them with a list of important questions that you just NEED to know.

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She told me that "God" told her that she should ONLY be with men................and a month later she was back with a woman.

I would think that she just has issues with accepting who she is. Maybe she should be alone til she figures it out.

Graycap23 said:

Deadflow3r said:

I could just picture somebody doing this! Just go knocking on their door like you"re their new AVON representative and hit them with a list of important questions that you just NEED to know.

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She told me that "God" told her that she should ONLY be with men................and a month later she was back with a woman.

O.K. see, she is a lesbian Christian trying to find "the right man." See, there are all kinds of fucked up combinations of people. Wasn't there a female country star that came out as a lesbian? And a Christian gospel singer too? Both of these women had fans who were not pleased with their lesbianism so they honestly tried to go straight and talk themselves into it. I am sure, before they came out, they thought that all their gay feeling were sent to them by the devil.

Christianity and Islam also put another weird spin on things. But i still believe SOME people really are bisexual.

Graycap23 said:

Deadflow3r said:

I could just picture somebody doing this! Just go knocking on their door like you"re their new AVON representative and hit them with a list of important questions that you just NEED to know.

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She told me that "God" told her that she should ONLY be with men................and a month later she was back with a woman.

she probably been molested as a child. she sounds disturbed. it made sense when I thought she was just a hooker but if she's talking like that...girl got issues.

Deadflow3r said:

Graycap23 said:

She told me that "God" told her that she should ONLY be with men................and a month later she was back with a woman.

O.K. see, she is a lesbian Christian trying to find "the right man." See, there are all kinds of fucked up combinations of people. Wasn't there a female country star that came out as a lesbian? And a Christian gospel singer too? Both of these women had fans who were not pleased with their lesbianism so they honestly tried to go straight and talk themselves into it. I am sure, before they came out, they thought that all their gay feeling were sent to them by the devil.

Christianity and Islam also put another weird spin on things. But i still believe SOME people really are bisexual.

I can't think of her name but you're right, there was one. She is very pretty and she maintained her faith in God and allegedly got trash talked by other gays when she came out. I can't recollect if it was over her being a Christian or over her embracing her feminism and not trying to look like Ellen or K.D. Damn I wish I could find that interview. She was talking about being bullied.

HotGritz said:

Deadflow3r said:

O.K. see, she is a lesbian Christian trying to find "the right man." See, there are all kinds of fucked up combinations of people. Wasn't there a female country star that came out as a lesbian? And a Christian gospel singer too? Both of these women had fans who were not pleased with their lesbianism so they honestly tried to go straight and talk themselves into it. I am sure, before they came out, they thought that all their gay feeling were sent to them by the devil.

Christianity and Islam also put another weird spin on things. But i still believe SOME people really are bisexual.

I can't think of her name but you're right, there was one. She is very pretty and she maintained her faith in God and allegedly got trash talked by other gays when she came out. I can't recollect if it was over her being a Christian or over her embracing her feminism and not trying to look like Ellen or K.D. Damn I wish I could find that interview. She was talking about being bullied.

I think you mean Chely Wright. I don't recall her getting trashed by other gays when she came out, though--although there WAS a weird thing where, months earlier, it was leaked that a famous country singer was going to come out, and then when it turned out to be Chely, a lot of people were like, "Who's that? We thought she was going to be a famous person!" It wasn't all in the best spirit, but I don't think she got trashed. Maybe I'm wrong, though.

Efan said:

HotGritz said:

I can't think of her name but you're right, there was one. She is very pretty and she maintained her faith in God and allegedly got trash talked by other gays when she came out. I can't recollect if it was over her being a Christian or over her embracing her feminism and not trying to look like Ellen or K.D. Damn I wish I could find that interview. She was talking about being bullied.

I think you mean Chely Wright. I don't recall her getting trashed by other gays when she came out, though--although there WAS a weird thing where, months earlier, it was leaked that a famous country singer was going to come out, and then when it turned out to be Chely, a lot of people were like, "Who's that? We thought she was going to be a famous person!" It wasn't all in the best spirit, but I don't think she got trashed. Maybe I'm wrong, though.

Yeah that's her name. Pretty brunette with model features. I can't recall what show it was but she was talking about how she wasn't feeling accepted by other gays and how she received harsh criticism for remaining a Christian and not fitting the physical description of a lesbian because she liked wearing dresses and make up or some shit. The topic was bullying of gays in school and she was speaking about how adults bully one another as well. She's not famous? I thought she was a grammy winner and was up there with Kelly Pickler. Not uber famous but still famous.

Efan said:

HotGritz said:

I can't think of her name but you're right, there was one. She is very pretty and she maintained her faith in God and allegedly got trash talked by other gays when she came out. I can't recollect if it was over her being a Christian or over her embracing her feminism and not trying to look like Ellen or K.D. Damn I wish I could find that interview. She was talking about being bullied.

I think you mean Chely Wright. I don't recall her getting trashed by other gays when she came out, though--although there WAS a weird thing where, months earlier, it was leaked that a famous country singer was going to come out, and then when it turned out to be Chely, a lot of people were like, "Who's that? We thought she was going to be a famous person!" It wasn't all in the best spirit, but I don't think she got trashed. Maybe I'm wrong, though.

I thought it was one of the Judds.

heybaby said:

Graycap23 said:

She told me that "God" told her that she should ONLY be with men................and a month later she was back with a woman.

I would think that she just has issues with accepting who she is.

That might be it.

She is exceptionally fine and that may be working against her on some level.

Graycap23 said:

heybaby said:

I would think that she just has issues with accepting who she is.

That might be it.

She is exceptionally fine and that may be working against her on some level.

How would that work against anyone unless they had gummybears for brains?

HotGritz said:

Graycap23 said:

That might be it.

She is exceptionally fine and that may be working against her on some level.

How would that work against anyone unless they had gummybears for brains?

Every time she leaves her house.........she is getting constant attention.

How can u find yourself in that situation?

Graycap23 said:

HotGritz said:

How would that work against anyone unless they had gummybears for brains?

Every time she leaves her house.........she is getting constant attention.

How can u find yourself in that situation?

Yes but if she is indeed exceptionally beautiful...she's probably experienced that (getting attention) throughout most of her life. Being beautiful doesn't explain her behavior.

HotGritz said:

Graycap23 said:

Every time she leaves her house.........she is getting constant attention.

How can u find yourself in that situation?

Yes but if she is indeed exceptionally beautiful...she's probably experienced that (getting attention) throughout most of her life. Being beautiful doesn't explain her behavior.

Yeah I don't get that looks go with someone's behavior argument.

Timmy84 said:

HotGritz said:

Yes but if she is indeed exceptionally beautiful...she's probably experienced that (getting attention) throughout most of her life. Being beautiful doesn't explain her behavior.

Yeah I don't get that looks go with someone's behavior argument.

Really............u can't be serious.

Looks and behavior along with self esteem are very closely related in a lot of cases. At least with people that I have come in contact with.

Graycap23 said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah I don't get that looks go with someone's behavior argument.

Really............u can't be serious.

Looks and behavior along with self esteem are very closely related in a lot of cases. At least with people that I have come in contact with.

Maybe I needed to word it better in terms of how you think this woman is acting. You think she's being loose because she gets that attention???

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Timmy84 said:

Graycap23 said:

Really............u can't be serious.

Looks and behavior along with self esteem are very closely related in a lot of cases. At least with people that I have come in contact with.

Maybe I needed to word it better in terms of how you think this woman is acting.

I started out with greed....and I'm still there with her.

Graycap23 said:

Timmy84 said:

Maybe I needed to word it better in terms of how you think this woman is acting.

I started out with greed....and I'm still there with her.

Then that's just it. She's greedy, not bisexual. End of?

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Timmy84 said:

Graycap23 said:

I started out with greed....and I'm still there with her.

Then that's just it. She's greedy, not bisexual. End of?

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No...but I have not heard anything on this thread that has convinced me otherwise. I also think that she might be confused. Even my wife made the comment early on after her "God" comment.

Graycap23 said:

Timmy84 said:

Then that's just it. She's greedy, not bisexual. End of?

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No...but I have not heard anything on this thread that has convinced me otherwise. I also think that she might be confused. Even my wife made the comment early on after her "God" comment.

Or maybe she's just stupid. Especially if she considers herself one thing but does another even though she claims not to like it. I doubt it's confusion. Either make up your mind who you are or don't even attempt to do something you claim you're not comfortable with. I don't get those who claim they sleep with the same sex for experimental reasons. That ain't confusion, that's just stupidity.

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Timmy84 said:

Graycap23 said:

No...but I have not heard anything on this thread that has convinced me otherwise. I also think that she might be confused. Even my wife made the comment early on after her "God" comment.

Or maybe she's just stupid. Especially if she considers herself one thing but does another even though she claims not to like it. I doubt it's confusion. Either make up your mind who you are or don't even attempt to do something you claim you're not comfortable with. I don't get those who claim they sleep with the same sex for experimental reasons. That ain't confusion, that's just stupidity.

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Lol......it's interesting I will say that.

I'll take stupid bisexual confused greedy ho for $500 Alex!

Oh look... A DAILY DOUBLE!