Shorty said:

Shyra said:

I get tickled when folk talk about the cleaniness or lack thereof of certain animals. Hell, they all shit and piss and walk around in dirt and don't wash their hands or genitals after procreating.

I have a friend who was raised Muslim. She refuses to eat pork, but will pack her nose with cocaine any time she gets a chance. Oh, the irony!

omg that was funny!

Yeah, she's a trip. She was having a party once and asked me if I would put a few items in my refridgerator because she had run out of space in her's. I told her that it would be fine, but was she OK with me having a ham in the fridge, too. She refused to put her stuff in with the ham. I told her, "Bitch! You ain't Jewish! You's a backslidin Muslim! And your fridge ain't hardly kosher either, so don't even front!"

Shyra said:

Shorty said:

omg that was funny!

Yeah, she's a trip. She was having a party once and asked me if I would put a few items in my refridgerator because she had run out of space in her's. I told her that it would be fine, but was she OK with me having a ham in the fridge, too. She refused to put her stuff in with the ham. I told her, "Bitch! You ain't Jewish! You's a backslidin Muslim! And your fridge ain't hardly kosher either, so don't even front!"

I'm sure that went over well.

Genesia said:

Shyra said:

Yeah, she's a trip. She was having a party once and asked me if I would put a few items in my refridgerator because she had run out of space in her's. I told her that it would be fine, but was she OK with me having a ham in the fridge, too. She refused to put her stuff in with the ham. I told her, "Bitch! You ain't Jewish! You's a backslidin Muslim! And your fridge ain't hardly kosher either, so don't even front!"

I'm sure that went over well.

And she's a Gemini and tried to get all self-rightgeous and do. I told her to stop trippin and move the fuck on and not to ask me to store a gotdamned thing ever again since I was so unclean. Pissed me the hell off.

Genesia said:

TonyVanDam said:

And you truly believe that the entire 100% of Trichirnosis is killed off after cooking any part of the pig "properly"?!?

Well, to each its own. But there is no way that I could trust pigs/swines as food after learning about Trichirnosis many years ago. Not the mention that pigs/swines are the kind of animals that can eat human waste with a and a smile.

You do realize that putting what you write in bold doesn't make it valid...right? Spelling things correctly does, however. It's trichinosis.

And, yes - cooking does kill it. I'll trust food scientists over the Bible anyday, when it comes to that sort of thing.

Dogs would also eat human waste. There are humans who dig it, too. What's your point?

Pigs/swines are nasty unclean animals. THAT'S my point! But again, to each it's own.

TonyVanDam said:

Genesia said:

You do realize that putting what you write in bold doesn't make it valid...right? Spelling things correctly does, however. It's trichinosis.

And, yes - cooking does kill it. I'll trust food scientists over the Bible anyday, when it comes to that sort of thing.

Dogs would also eat human waste. There are humans who dig it, too. What's your point?

Pigs/swines are nasty unclean animals. THAT'S my point! But again, to each it's own.

TonyVanDam said:

Genesia said:

You do realize that putting what you write in bold doesn't make it valid...right? Spelling things correctly does, however. It's trichinosis.

And, yes - cooking does kill it. I'll trust food scientists over the Bible anyday, when it comes to that sort of thing.

Dogs would also eat human waste. There are humans who dig it, too. What's your point?

Pigs/swines are nasty unclean animals. THAT'S my point! But again, to each it's own.

What is it that makes you think cows, turkeys, and lambs are clean?

Efan said:

TonyVanDam said:

Instead of pork bacon, have you ever tried turkey bacon?

Instead of pork chops, how about lamb chops?

I love turkey, but I hate it when it pretends to be something it's not. When I want bacon, I want bacon. No substitutes. And lamb is one thing I just can't acquire a taste for. I know "gamey" is probably not the right word to describe how it tastes to me, but whatever it is, I just can't get used to it. Other than that, I'm pretty varied in what I eat, and I don't eat all that much pork. But I do love it when I have it, and I agree with Genesia's statement about it. I also don't have any religious or other beliefs that would prevent me from wanting to eat pork.

Have you ever been on a cattle ranch? Driven by a big one in the heat of the summer? That was part of my point in my first post on this thread. They're ALL animals. I don't find it possible to logic out how it's "better" or "right" of "different" to kill or not kill any of them. Including the other cultures around the world who eat things we would never touch. They're all meat and killing them is messy.

This thread is making me hungry.

TonyVanDam said:

Efan said:

I love turkey, but I hate it when it pretends to be something it's not. When I want bacon, I want bacon. No substitutes. And lamb is one thing I just can't acquire a taste for. I know "gamey" is probably not the right word to describe how it tastes to me, but whatever it is, I just can't get used to it. Other than that, I'm pretty varied in what I eat, and I don't eat all that much pork. But I do love it when I have it, and I agree with Genesia's statement about it. I also don't have any religious or other beliefs that would prevent me from wanting to eat pork.

Fair enough. But I still think THAT'S^ funny as hell!

Turkey bacon is nasty as shit..... wayyyy to salty! All that sodium is bad for your body.

Genesia said:

This thread is making me hungry.

I can go for a Cuban sammich right about now.

Shorty said:

TonyVanDam said:

Pigs/swines are nasty unclean animals. THAT'S my point! But again, to each it's own.

so are chickens. how do you rationalize salmonella? or do you not eat chicken or eggs too? just asking

Good question. Yes, I still eat chicken & egg whites.

Chickens have natural body fillers known as gizzards, hence why they are consider clean animals along with turkeys & ducks.

I might be wrong, but chickens are not born with Salmonella in their bodies, unlike the pigs/swines that are born with Trichinosis already in their bodies.

Efan said:

The pig is a totally amazing animal. I mean, we get pepperoni, ham, sausage, Canadian bacon, pork chops, hot dogs, and footballs all from this one animal. Absolutely amazing.

Hahaha!

Yeah, I haven't had pork in about 22 years....been porked, but don't eat it.

TonyVanDam said:

Shorty said:

so are chickens. how do you rationalize salmonella? or do you not eat chicken or eggs too? just asking

Good question. Yes, I still eat chicken & egg whites.

Chickens have natural body fillers known as gizzards, hence why they are consider clean animals along with turkeys & ducks.

I might be wrong, but chickens are not born with Salmonella in their bodies, unlike the pigs/swines that are born with Trichinosis already in their bodies.

Dear God - you are just a font of misinformation, aren't you?

Every animal has a "natural body filter." More than one, in fact - they're called the "liver" and "kidneys." The gizzard is the bird equivalent of a stomach - it filters nothing.

And chickens most certainly do have salmonella in their bodies - where the hell do you think it comes from? It's in their shit, for one thing. When the chickens are slaughtered, the shit goes everywhere.

Pigs, on the other hand, are not necessarily born with the trichinella spiralis parasite. They would get it from eating the flesh of an infected animal.

Jesus Christ...I feel like a one-woman bullshit detector.

Efan said:

TonyVanDam said:

Pigs/swines are nasty unclean animals. THAT'S my point! But again, to each it's own.

What is it that makes you think cows, turkeys, and lambs are clean?

Lambs & bulls/cows have cloven hooves & eat cud, which is how they are classify as clean animals. I'm sad to say that I don't have a sciencific explanation at the moment.

And I've never seen bulls OR lambs eat human waste neither.

Genesia said:

This thread is making me hungry.

I'm still wanting for my paycheck so I can get some smoked turkey legs for lunch.

JustErin said:

Efan said:

The pig is a totally amazing animal. I mean, we get pepperoni, ham, sausage, Canadian bacon, pork chops, hot dogs, and footballs all from this one animal. Absolutely amazing.

Hahaha!

Yeah, I haven't had pork in about 22 years....been porked, but don't eat it.

Congratulation.

Genesia said:

TonyVanDam said:

Good question. Yes, I still eat chicken & egg whites.

Chickens have natural body fillers known as gizzards, hence why they are consider clean animals along with turkeys & ducks.

I might be wrong, but chickens are not born with Salmonella in their bodies, unlike the pigs/swines that are born with Trichinosis already in their bodies.

Dear God - you are just a font of misinformation, aren't you?

Every animal has a "natural body filter." More than one, in fact - they're called the "liver" and "kidneys." The gizzard is the bird equivalent of a stomach - it filters nothing.

And chickens most certainly do have salmonella in their bodies - where the hell do you think it comes from? It's in their shit, for one thing. When the chickens are slaughtered, the shit goes everywhere.

Pigs, on the other hand, are not necessarily born with the trichinella spiralis parasite. They would get it from eating the flesh of an infected animal.

Jesus Christ...I feel like a one-woman bullshit detector.

Wait a minute, you said a few moments ago that you value scientific proof more than Hebrew scriptural proof, correct? Then why are you calling out the name of the messiah Yahusha ("Jesus Christ") when you will not accept the teachings of the prophet Moses concerning dietary laws?

Do I sense a contradiction?

TonyVanDam said:

Genesia said:

Dear God - you are just a font of misinformation, aren't you?

Every animal has a "natural body filter." More than one, in fact - they're called the "liver" and "kidneys." The gizzard is the bird equivalent of a stomach - it filters nothing.

And chickens most certainly do have salmonella in their bodies - where the hell do you think it comes from? It's in their shit, for one thing. When the chickens are slaughtered, the shit goes everywhere.

Pigs, on the other hand, are not necessarily born with the trichinella spiralis parasite. They would get it from eating the flesh of an infected animal.

Jesus Christ...I feel like a one-woman bullshit detector.

Wait a minute, you said a few moments ago that you value scientific proof more than Hebrew scriptural proof, correct? Then why are you calling out the name of the messiah Yahusha ("Jesus Christ") when you will not accept the teachings of the prophet Moses concerning dietary laws?

Do I sense a contradiction?

How do you know I wasn't calling on him to smite the one disrespecting his teachings by spouting a bunch of bullshit?

Genesia said:

TonyVanDam said:

Wait a minute, you said a few moments ago that you value scientific proof more than Hebrew scriptural proof, correct? Then why are you calling out the name of the messiah Yahusha ("Jesus Christ") when you will not accept the teachings of the prophet Moses concerning dietary laws?

Do I sense a contradiction?

How do you know I wasn't calling on him to smite the one disrespecting his teachings by spouting a bunch of bullshit?

Oh please, you can NOT battle me in bible study. You don't ever like the Old Testament (The Hebrew Bible) But that's not what this is about.

You just want to prove to me that you will cook those pork chops to go with those mashed potatoes you will be having for dinner tonight.

[Edited 2/4/11 15:21pm]

TonyVanDam said:

Genesia said:

How do you know I wasn't calling on him to smite the one disrespecting his teachings by spouting a bunch of bullshit?

Oh please, you can NOT battle me in bible study. You don't ever like the Old Testament (The Hebrew Bible) But that's not what this is about.

You just want to prove to me that you will cook those pork chops to go with those mashed potatoes you will be having for dinner tonight.

[Edited 2/4/11 15:21pm]

Battle you in Bible study? I haven't said anything about the Bible, asshat - apart from saying I'd take the word of food scientists over the Bible when it comes to trichinosis. Which is just good sense.

Of which you, apparently, have none.

Shyra said:

Shorty said:

omg that was funny!

Yeah, she's a trip. She was having a party once and asked me if I would put a few items in my refridgerator because she had run out of space in her's. I told her that it would be fine, but was she OK with me having a ham in the fridge, too. She refused to put her stuff in with the ham. I told her, "Bitch! You ain't Jewish! You's a backslidin Muslim! And your fridge ain't hardly kosher either, so don't even front!"

I'm muslim and I should take offense but DAMN

Genesia said:

TonyVanDam said:

Oh please, you can NOT battle me in bible study. You don't ever like the Old Testament (The Hebrew Bible) But that's not what this is about.

You just want to prove to me that you will cook those pork chops to go with those mashed potatoes you will be having for dinner tonight.

[Edited 2/4/11 15:21pm]

Battle you in Bible study? I haven't said anything about the Bible, asshat - apart from saying I'd take the word of food scientists over the Bible when it comes to trichinosis. Which is just good sense.

Of which you, apparently, have none.

........in your opinion of course.

First of all, Genesia, I love you.

Second of all, pork fat rules.

TonyVanDam said:

Pigs…are nasty unclean animals.

Exactly, that is WHY they are called PIGS

Acrylic said:

First of all, Genesia, I love you.

Second of all, pork fat rules.

Especially when it's deep-fried crispy with maybe a little skin still left on it.

ZombieKitten said:

TonyVanDam said:

Pigs…are nasty unclean animals.

Exactly, that is WHY they are called PIGS

At least we agree on something.

Poiple said:

Acrylic said:

First of all, Genesia, I love you.

Second of all, pork fat rules.

Especially when it's deep-fried crispy with maybe a little skin still left on it.

I make a Puerto Rican (pernil) roast pork (picnic cut) with lots of nice crunchy fatty skin on it that will make you cut a bitch for the last slice.

[Edited 2/4/11 20:31pm]

johnart said:

Poiple said:

Especially when it's deep-fried crispy with maybe a little skin still left on it.

I make a Puerto Rican (pernil) roast pork (picnic cut) with lots of nice crunchy fatty skin on it that will make you cut a bitch for the last slice.

[Edited 2/4/11 20:31pm]

Cborgman and I were talking the other day about how we need to have an NYC meetup.

You need to bring this to it when we arrange it.

Efan said:

johnart said:

I make a Puerto Rican (pernil) roast pork (picnic cut) with lots of nice crunchy fatty skin on it that will make you cut a bitch for the last slice.

[Edited 2/4/11 20:31pm]

Cborgman and I were talking the other day about how we need to have an NYC meetup.

You need to bring this to it when we arrange it.

Bring?? Do you have an oven?