johnart said:

Shyra said:

So that's the Rican version of the soul food version of "Hoppin John" which is black-eyed peas and rice. A trotter with some hoppin john and hot sauce, greens and a side of some home made potato salad--make you slap yo mama!

I'm starting to think if maybe I'm not gonna do the cookin when you come over but put your ass to work. I'm hungry now.

Hey! Ain't no big thang! I LOVE heppin in the kitchen! Just keep the martini glasses out of harm's way!

Shyra said:

johnart said:

I'm starting to think if maybe I'm not gonna do the cookin when you come over but put your ass to work. I'm hungry now.

Hey! Ain't no big thang! I LOVE heppin in the kitchen! Just keep the martini glasses out of harm's way!

By next month we should be able to make some plans. The house is finally far enough along.

Shyra said:

Ottensen said:

I can't get with pig's feet, but I will mess a ham hock up (with some greens on the side!!!!)

Isn't a ham hock the ankle of the pig? So you're just a little farther up from the trotter.

Yes m'am!

A smoked ham hock that's been braised in greens is the bomb!

johnart said:

Shyra said:

Hey! Ain't no big thang! I LOVE heppin in the kitchen! Just keep the martini glasses out of harm's way!

By next month we should be able to make some plans. The house is finally far enough along.

Just tell me when, and I'm there with doggie treats for the babies.!

Ottensen said:

Shyra said:

Isn't a ham hock the ankle of the pig? So you're just a little farther up from the trotter.

Yes m'am!

A smoked ham hock that's been braised in greens is the bomb!

Girl, you CAIN'T make authentic greens without that hock! Smoked turkey be damned!

vainandy said:

Efan said:

The pig is a totally amazing animal. I mean, we get pepperoni, ham, sausage, Canadian bacon, pork chops, hot dogs, and footballs all from this one animal. Absolutely amazing.

It sure is. Vegetables ain't eatable without some sort of pork seasoning. Also, every damn part of their body is eatable. I know lots of folks that eat pigs feet and hell I love me some pig ears. I even saw pig snouts in the grocery store.

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THAT^ is NOT true! Vegetables are very eatable (at least for myself) when I ask olive oil, butter, and/or sea salt to them mofos.

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Efan said:

The pig is a totally amazing animal. I mean, we get pepperoni, ham, sausage, Canadian bacon, pork chops, hot dogs, and footballs all from this one animal. Absolutely amazing.

It's also amazing how someone can increase their chances of a heartattack from eating all of THAT^ pork.

TonyVanDam said:

Efan said:

The pig is a totally amazing animal. I mean, we get pepperoni, ham, sausage, Canadian bacon, pork chops, hot dogs, and footballs all from this one animal. Absolutely amazing.

It's also amazing how someone can increase their chances of a heartattack from eating all of THAT^ pork.

Well, I don't eat footballs, so that should better my chances somewhat.

TonyVanDam said:

Efan said:

The pig is a totally amazing animal. I mean, we get pepperoni, ham, sausage, Canadian bacon, pork chops, hot dogs, and footballs all from this one animal. Absolutely amazing.

It's also amazing how someone can increase their chances of a heartattack from eating all of THAT^ pork.

What, exactly, are you basing that statement on? Eating pork (in and of itself) does not increase your chances of a heart attack.

Proof, please.

Efan said:

TonyVanDam said:

It's also amazing how someone can increase their chances of a heartattack from eating all of THAT^ pork.

Well, I don't eat footballs, so that should better my chances somewhat.

Instead of pork bacon, have you ever tried turkey bacon?

Instead of pork chops, how about lamb chops?

TonyVanDam said:

Efan said:

Well, I don't eat footballs, so that should better my chances somewhat.

Instead of pork bacon, have you ever tried turkey bacon?

Instead of pork chops, how about lamb chops?

Two very different flavors, indeed. Some folk can't tolerate the smell/taste of lamb. I love both!

Shyra said:

TonyVanDam said:

Instead of pork bacon, have you ever tried turkey bacon?

Instead of pork chops, how about lamb chops?

Two very different flavors, indeed. Some folk can't tolerate the smell/taste of lamb. I love both!

I could sit and eat a lamb chop a pork chop some turkey bacon and some regular bacon in one serving.

TonyVanDam said:

Efan said:

Well, I don't eat footballs, so that should better my chances somewhat.

Instead of pork bacon, have you ever tried turkey bacon?

Instead of pork chops, how about lamb chops?

I love turkey, but I hate it when it pretends to be something it's not. When I want bacon, I want bacon. No substitutes. And lamb is one thing I just can't acquire a taste for. I know "gamey" is probably not the right word to describe how it tastes to me, but whatever it is, I just can't get used to it. Other than that, I'm pretty varied in what I eat, and I don't eat all that much pork. But I do love it when I have it, and I agree with Genesia's statement about it. I also don't have any religious or other beliefs that would prevent me from wanting to eat pork.

Genesia said:

TonyVanDam said:

It's also amazing how someone can increase their chances of a heartattack from eating all of THAT^ pork.

What, exactly, are you basing that statement on? Eating pork (in and of itself) does not increase your chances of a heart attack.

Proof, please.

1. Since it's already document in the Hebrew Scriptures (The Old Testament) that the pig/swine is an unclean animal, it's no need for me to go there at the expense of this thread getting sent to P&R.

2. Have you ever heard of the disease called Trichinosis?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trichinosis

Trichinosis, also called trichinellosis, or trichiniasis, is a parasitic disease caused by eating raw or undercooked pork or wild game infected with the larvae of a species of roundworm Trichinella spiralis, commonly called the trichina worm.

THAT^ disease, which is found in pigs/swines, is also responsible for shortening the lifespan of people that consumes pork, bacon, ham, etc.

And there's more:

http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Pig_%28domestic%29

The domestic pig or swine is a mammal native to Eurasia, now an important food animal in nearly every part of the world. Pigs were first domesticated in prehistoric times. They were brought to the Americas by European settlers, and to Oceania by the Polynesians. In North America DeSoto's men drove herds of them as they traversed the southeastern USA. Some escaped and became feral, where they quickly became a favored game animal for Native Americans.

Nearly every part of pigs is eaten: the flesh produces pork and bacon, ribs become spareribs, and even the feet are eaten. Pork is especially important to Chinese and Polynesian cuisine. On the other hand, Judaism and Islam ban the eating of pigs or any other use of them, probably because of ancient encounters with trichinosis.

In addition to trichinosis, pigs are a major transmitter of influenza viruses to humans.

Efan said:

TonyVanDam said:

Instead of pork bacon, have you ever tried turkey bacon?

Instead of pork chops, how about lamb chops?

I love turkey, but I hate it when it pretends to be something it's not. When I want bacon, I want bacon. No substitutes. And lamb is one thing I just can't acquire a taste for. I know "gamey" is probably not the right word to describe how it tastes to me, but whatever it is, I just can't get used to it. Other than that, I'm pretty varied in what I eat, and I don't eat all that much pork. But I do love it when I have it, and I agree with Genesia's statement about it. I also don't have any religious or other beliefs that would prevent me from wanting to eat pork.

johnart said:

Shyra said:

Two very different flavors, indeed. Some folk can't tolerate the smell/taste of lamb. I love both!

I could sit and eat a lamb chop a pork chop some turkey bacon and some regular bacon in one serving.

See. I'll slap a bitch for some smothered poke chops!

johnart said:

Shyra said:

Two very different flavors, indeed. Some folk can't tolerate the smell/taste of lamb. I love both!

I could sit and eat a lamb chop a pork chop some turkey bacon and some regular bacon in one serving.

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I love deer meat! But I don't mess with rabbit.

TonyVanDam said:

Genesia said:

What, exactly, are you basing that statement on? Eating pork (in and of itself) does not increase your chances of a heart attack.

Proof, please.

1. Since it's already document in the Hebrew Scriptures (The Old Testament) that the pig/swine is an unclean animal, it's no need for me to go there at the expense of this thread getting sent to P&R.

2. Have you ever heard of the disease called Trichinosis?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trichinosis

Trichinosis, also called trichinellosis, or trichiniasis, is a parasitic disease caused by eating raw or undercooked pork or wild game infected with the larvae of a species of roundworm Trichinella spiralis, commonly called the trichina worm.

THAT^ disease, which is found in pigs/swines, is also responsible for shortening the lifespan of people that consumes pork, bacon, ham, etc.

And there's more:

http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Pig_%28domestic%29

The domestic pig or swine is a mammal native to Eurasia, now an important food animal in nearly every part of the world. Pigs were first domesticated in prehistoric times. They were brought to the Americas by European settlers, and to Oceania by the Polynesians. In North America DeSoto's men drove herds of them as they traversed the southeastern USA. Some escaped and became feral, where they quickly became a favored game animal for Native Americans.

Nearly every part of pigs is eaten: the flesh produces pork and bacon, ribs become spareribs, and even the feet are eaten. Pork is especially important to Chinese and Polynesian cuisine. On the other hand, Judaism and Islam ban the eating of pigs or any other use of them, probably because of ancient encounters with trichinosis.

In addition to trichinosis, pigs are a major transmitter of influenza viruses to humans.

You said eating pork causes heart disease. Nothing you posted has anything whatever to do with heart disease.

Trichinosis is caused by a parasite, which is only a problem if you eat undercooked pork from an infected animal. It is not a cause of traditional heart disease - and it is certainly not something that affects everyone who eats pork. Especially if they prepare it properly.

We aren't discussing your belief system about the relative cleanliness/uncleanliness of pork. (Or shellfish or goat or venison, for that matter.) You want to follow Hebrew dietary law, fine - be my guest. But please do not try to pass that off as proof that eating pork is unhealthy.

Efan said:

TonyVanDam said:

Instead of pork bacon, have you ever tried turkey bacon?

Instead of pork chops, how about lamb chops?

I love turkey, but I hate it when it pretends to be something it's not. When I want bacon, I want bacon. No substitutes. And lamb is one thing I just can't acquire a taste for. I know "gamey" is probably not the right word to describe how it tastes to me, but whatever it is, I just can't get used to it. Other than that, I'm pretty varied in what I eat, and I don't eat all that much pork. But I do love it when I have it, and I agree with Genesia's statement about it. I also don't have any religious or other beliefs that would prevent me from wanting to eat pork.

Fair enough. But I still think THAT'S^ funny as hell!

I get tickled when folk talk about the cleaniness or lack thereof of certain animals. Hell, they all shit and piss and walk around in dirt and don't wash their hands or genitals after procreating.

I have a friend who was raised Muslim. She refuses to eat pork, but will pack her nose with cocaine any time she gets a chance. Oh, the irony!

TonyVanDam said:

johnart said:

I could sit and eat a lamb chop a pork chop some turkey bacon and some regular bacon in one serving.

[img:$uid]http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/10500000/Bambi-And-Thumper-classic-disney-10503305-800-600.jpg[/img:$uid]

I love deer meat! But I don't mess with rabbit.

I've never had rabbit.

Shyra said:

I get tickled when folk talk about the cleaniness or lack thereof of certain animals. Hell, they all shit and piss and walk around in dirt and don't wash their hands or genitals after procreating.

I have a friend who was raised Muslim. She refuses to eat pork, but will pack her nose with cocaine any time she gets a chance. Oh, the irony!

Unless you're serving me pig with a side of mashed turd, I'm good.

I've had venison twice, and both times it must have been cooked incorrectly because it was tough and "gamey." I've never eaten Thumper!

Genesia said:

TonyVanDam said:

1. Since it's already document in the Hebrew Scriptures (The Old Testament) that the pig/swine is an unclean animal, it's no need for me to go there at the expense of this thread getting sent to P&R.

2. Have you ever heard of the disease called Trichinosis?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trichinosis

Trichinosis, also called trichinellosis, or trichiniasis, is a parasitic disease caused by eating raw or undercooked pork or wild game infected with the larvae of a species of roundworm Trichinella spiralis, commonly called the trichina worm.

THAT^ disease, which is found in pigs/swines, is also responsible for shortening the lifespan of people that consumes pork, bacon, ham, etc.

And there's more:

http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Pig_%28domestic%29

The domestic pig or swine is a mammal native to Eurasia, now an important food animal in nearly every part of the world. Pigs were first domesticated in prehistoric times. They were brought to the Americas by European settlers, and to Oceania by the Polynesians. In North America DeSoto's men drove herds of them as they traversed the southeastern USA. Some escaped and became feral, where they quickly became a favored game animal for Native Americans.

Nearly every part of pigs is eaten: the flesh produces pork and bacon, ribs become spareribs, and even the feet are eaten. Pork is especially important to Chinese and Polynesian cuisine. On the other hand, Judaism and Islam ban the eating of pigs or any other use of them, probably because of ancient encounters with trichinosis.

In addition to trichinosis, pigs are a major transmitter of influenza viruses to humans.

You said eating pork causes heart disease. Nothing you posted has anything whatever to do with heart disease.

Trichinosis is caused by a parasite, which is only a problem if you eat undercooked pork from an infected animal. It is not a cause of traditional heart disease - and it is certainly not something that affects everyone who eats pork. Especially if they prepare it properly.

We aren't discussing your belief system about the relative cleanliness/uncleanliness of pork. (Or shellfish or goat or venison, for that matter.) You want to follow Hebrew dietary law, fine - be my guest. But please do not try to pass that off as proof that eating pork is unhealthy.

And you truly believe that the entire 100% of Trichirnosis is killed off after cooking any part of the pig "properly"?!?

Well, to each its own. But there is no way that I could trust pigs/swines as food after learning about Trichirnosis many years ago. Not the mention that pigs/swines are the kind of animals that can eat human waste with a and a smile.

Shyra said:

I get tickled when folk talk about the cleaniness or lack thereof of certain animals. Hell, they all shit and piss and walk around in dirt and don't wash their hands or genitals after procreating.

I have a friend who was raised Muslim. She refuses to eat pork, but will pack her nose with cocaine any time she gets a chance. Oh, the irony!

OFF-TOPIC: They need to legalize cocaine so we can have it back in again TBH!

Shyra said:

I get tickled when folk talk about the cleaniness or lack thereof of certain animals. Hell, they all shit and piss and walk around in dirt and don't wash their hands or genitals after procreating.

I have a friend who was raised Muslim. She refuses to eat pork, but will pack her nose with cocaine any time she gets a chance. Oh, the irony!

I look something akin to this when I'm eating a bacon sandwich for breakfast:

Efan said:

I look something akin to this when I'm eating a bacon sandwich for breakfast:

You and me both!

TonyVanDam said:

Genesia said:

You said eating pork causes heart disease. Nothing you posted has anything whatever to do with heart disease.

Trichinosis is caused by a parasite, which is only a problem if you eat undercooked pork from an infected animal. It is not a cause of traditional heart disease - and it is certainly not something that affects everyone who eats pork. Especially if they prepare it properly.

We aren't discussing your belief system about the relative cleanliness/uncleanliness of pork. (Or shellfish or goat or venison, for that matter.) You want to follow Hebrew dietary law, fine - be my guest. But please do not try to pass that off as proof that eating pork is unhealthy.

And you truly believe that the entire 100% of Trichirnosis is killed off after cooking any part of the pig "properly"?!?

Well, to each its own. But there is no way that I could trust pigs/swines as food after learning about Trichirnosis many years ago. Not the mention that pigs/swines are the kind of animals that can eat human waste with a and a smile.

You do realize that putting what you write in bold doesn't make it valid...right? Spelling things correctly does, however. It's trichinosis.

And, yes - cooking does kill it. I'll trust food scientists over the Bible anyday, when it comes to that sort of thing.

Dogs would also eat human waste. There are humans who dig it, too. What's your point?