physco185 said:

omg!!! he is sooooo cute!!!!

Art is good for them... they know it's only paintings, and it teaches them that art is not just some pink flowers in a vase

but some of those ppl looked scary to me

in the second pic there is a guy with a head band making sure no one can leave!!!!!!!

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That was a young boy, watching his friend sing for the crowd. And it was not an exit door...and it was a hat, not a headband.

One more pic, with his friend who is 7 - two years older than him....but look at how they are the same size!

abigail05 said:

PositivityNYC said:

really?

no, not really.

But I will say that, of the numerous gallery showings I've been to, the majority of the work (much of it really well done) seems to be flipped out insanity. Ghoul art. That's just my take on it.

You really need to go to more exhibitions then.

Aside: even "classic" art, such as that depicting scenes from Greek mythology or the Bible could be considered freaky if one really thinks about it. A few examples off the top of my head: Leda and the Swan; Prometheus tied to the rock, his liver being pecked repeatedly by birds; or a guy nailed to a cross wearing a crown of thorns, etc.

Philistines.

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JustErin said:

One more pic, with his friend who is 7 - two years older than him....but look at how they are the same size!

Your son's expression.

Looks like he's thinkin:

They told me there'd be beer but all I see is a bunch of fruity wine glasses.

The first time I took my daughter she was 3 and the guard came over because she was not whispering. Seriously.

She will be 9 this month and this thread reminds me to bring her again. Museums are something that I love and I would love to share with her. Also if we move back to New Orleans from this dreadful cityI now live in, I will be making sure that she sees the local museums and galleries often.

johnart said:

JustErin said:

One more pic, with his friend who is 7 - two years older than him....but look at how they are the same size!

Your son's expression.

Looks like he's thinkin:

They told me there'd be beer but all I see is a bunch of fruity wine glasses.

By this point all he kept doing was ask for a drink of milk. He was not happy that all they had was beer and wine.

I actually ended up taking both boys out for a snack while his parents mingled. See, I can be a good mom!

Deadflow3r said:

The first time I took my daughter she was 3 and the guard came over because she was not whispering. Seriously.

She will be 9 this month and this thread reminds me to bring her again. Museums are something that I love and I would love to share with her. Also if we move back to New Orleans from this dreadful cityI now live in, I will be making sure that she sees the local museums and galleries often.

That sucks.

This place was really casual and there actually were quite a few kids there...albeit a bit older. It's so refreshing to be around kids that are not all embarrassed and weirded out about certain visuals.

Nothing more annoying than giggling kids that learn everything from their peers, long before their parents get to discuss things.

JustErin said:

johnart said:

Your son's expression.

Looks like he's thinkin:

They told me there'd be beer but all I see is a bunch of fruity wine glasses.

By this point all he kept doing was ask for a drink of milk. He was not happy that all they had was beer and wine.

I actually ended up taking both boys out for a snack while his parents mingled. See, I can be a good mom!

You can totally be a good mom.

And I want that kid's tee shirt.

I saw these type of paintings at your son's age.

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johnart said:

JustErin said:

By this point all he kept doing was ask for a drink of milk. He was not happy that all they had was beer and wine.

I actually ended up taking both boys out for a snack while his parents mingled. See, I can be a good mom!

You can totally be a good mom.

And I want that kid's tee shirt.

It's so funny because those two are so alike. Miles has one very similar to it in green....or maybe it's the moms that are very alike.

he's such a good looking kid, erin

where does he get his size from

he's built like a linebacker

Not to cop out with the whole "there should be balance" thing, but... I think there should be balance.

My kid has been taught incrimentally about sex since she could talk. I think making sex taboo is a ridiculous and socially detrimental thing that parents too often do. But she is taught that certain aspects of sexuality will be appropriately and more wholly appreciated with an adult mind... and that while she's on her way there, we'll engage with her in things sexual as called for according to her age.

Where this show is concerned, I'd have taken my daughter. I think exposure to the art world is worth navigating anything I've seen in these particular pics. Not that I'd actively hope she'd notice, but if she saw the girl-on-girl piece, I'd maybe throw out something like: "OK, monkey, I know you've seen it. Tell me what you think... and let's move along to the next work -- one more suited for YOU." I'd rather have that moment with her in this setting than her eventually coming across some similar jarring, graphic and entirely exploitative scene on a website with friends or something.

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orger said:

he's such a good looking kid, erin

where does he get his size from

he's built like a linebacker

My mom's side of the family. All her brothers are 6'4.

He starting martial arts class in a few weeks...this should be interesting.

Oh and some of y'all are gonna tell me you didn't see these type of stuff at his age?

JustErin said:

orger said:

he's such a good looking kid, erin

where does he get his size from

he's built like a linebacker

My mom's side of the family. All her brothers are 6'4.

He starting martial arts class in a few weeks...this should be interesting.

keep raising him right

teach him to be somewhat passive

because if he keeps growing at this rate

he'll be fucking dangerous

Hahaha! His face is priceless!

And adorable!

Ace said:

RodeoSchro said:

Yeah, that'd be my expression too, if I was a young kid and saw pictures of a woman eating another one's hooch.

Did you know that stuff was going to be there? I'm guessing not. I'm hoping not.

Is it helpful to shelter kids from sexuality? Maybe it would be healthier to be straightforward about it straight away?

I think there's a difference between straighforward talk, and exposure to graphic visual representations.

I'm extremely open with my kids and always have been. When I was pregnant with my 2nd daughter, my oldest was 3. She had questions, so I bought her books and told her everything. When people would say to her, "Does your mommy have a baby in her belly?" she would reply, "No, it's in her uterus!"

I wouldn't say my kids were or are sheltered from sexuality in any way. But I wouldn't have shown them pornographic images (chicks in lingerie eating each other out) because there is such a thing as age-appropriate. We hate hearing that, but it's still true. Teaching them about what they have on their bodies is not the same thing as showing them pictures of people fucking.

Not even saying I think Erin's son shouldn't have been at the art show - just weighing in on the children & sexuality topic.

PunkMistress said:

Ace said:

Is it helpful to shelter kids from sexuality? Maybe it would be healthier to be straightforward about it straight away?

I think there's a difference between straighforward talk, and exposure to graphic visual representations.

I'm extremely open with my kids and always have been. When I was pregnant with my 2nd daughter, my oldest was 3. She had questions, so I bought her books and told her everything. When people would say to her, "Does your mommy have a baby in her belly?" she would reply, "No, it's in her uterus!"

I wouldn't say my kids were or are sheltered from sexuality in any way. But I wouldn't have shown them pornographic images (chicks in lingerie eating each other out) because there is such a thing as age-appropriate. We hate hearing that, but it's still true. Teaching them about what they have on their bodies is not the same thing as showing them pictures of people fucking.

Not even saying I think Erin's son shouldn't have been at the art show - just weighing in on the children & sexuality topic.

tinaz said:

Hahaha! His face is priceless!

And adorable!

PunkMistress said:

Ace said:

Is it helpful to shelter kids from sexuality? Maybe it would be healthier to be straightforward about it straight away?

I think there's a difference between straighforward talk, and exposure to graphic visual representations.

I'm extremely open with my kids and always have been. When I was pregnant with my 2nd daughter, my oldest was 3. She had questions, so I bought her books and told her everything. When people would say to her, "Does your mommy have a baby in her belly?" she would reply, "No, it's in her uterus!"

I wouldn't say my kids were or are sheltered from sexuality in any way. But I wouldn't have shown them pornographic images (chicks in lingerie eating each other out) because there is such a thing as age-appropriate. We hate hearing that, but it's still true. Teaching them about what they have on their bodies is not the same thing as showing them pictures of people fucking.

Not even saying I think Erin's son shouldn't have been at the art show - just weighing in on the children & sexuality topic.

As I said, he didn't even notice those paintings. But even if he had, I know that he would ask about it (he asks about everything) I would talk to him about it.

In my opinion, art like this is ok to view and then talk about.

My mom mentioned that she saw the pictures of the show. She took no issue with it either....which surprised me a bit.

If that's not porn, it's close. I hope you don't have a custody case pending.

starkitty said:

If that's not porn, it's close. I hope you don't have a custody case pending.

JustErin said:

PunkMistress said:

I think there's a difference between straighforward talk, and exposure to graphic visual representations.

I'm extremely open with my kids and always have been. When I was pregnant with my 2nd daughter, my oldest was 3. She had questions, so I bought her books and told her everything. When people would say to her, "Does your mommy have a baby in her belly?" she would reply, "No, it's in her uterus!"

I wouldn't say my kids were or are sheltered from sexuality in any way. But I wouldn't have shown them pornographic images (chicks in lingerie eating each other out) because there is such a thing as age-appropriate. We hate hearing that, but it's still true. Teaching them about what they have on their bodies is not the same thing as showing them pictures of people fucking.

Not even saying I think Erin's son shouldn't have been at the art show - just weighing in on the children & sexuality topic.

As I said, he didn't even notice those paintings. But even if he had, I know that he would ask about it (he asks about everything) I would talk to him about it.

In my opinion, art like this is ok to view and then talk about.

My mom mentioned that she saw the pictures of the show. She took no issue with it either....which surprised me a bit.

I meant to add that - I figured he probably didn't even notice. Stuff like that doesn't tend to jump out at kids the way it does to us.

Wow!

The amazing thing to these pictures for me is, how long we all have been an "Org family" I remember when your little boy, way little! He's adorable!

Your son and his friend are real cuties!

JustErin said:

PunkMistress said:

I think there's a difference between straighforward talk, and exposure to graphic visual representations.

I'm extremely open with my kids and always have been. When I was pregnant with my 2nd daughter, my oldest was 3. She had questions, so I bought her books and told her everything. When people would say to her, "Does your mommy have a baby in her belly?" she would reply, "No, it's in her uterus!"

I wouldn't say my kids were or are sheltered from sexuality in any way. But I wouldn't have shown them pornographic images (chicks in lingerie eating each other out) because there is such a thing as age-appropriate. We hate hearing that, but it's still true. Teaching them about what they have on their bodies is not the same thing as showing them pictures of people fucking.

Not even saying I think Erin's son shouldn't have been at the art show - just weighing in on the children & sexuality topic.

As I said, he didn't even notice those paintings. But even if he had, I know that he would ask about it (he asks about everything) I would talk to him about it.

In my opinion, art like this is ok to view and then talk about.

My mom mentioned that she saw the pictures of the show. She took no issue with it either....which surprised me a bit.

He sure has gotten tall! And his little face is irresistable.

We had all sorts of art books around the house that I used to devour as young as 5...nothing sexual ever occurred to me. I didn't visit an art museum till I was about 12 or 13 but I don't see any harm in that exhibit.

My boys were more interested in the science museum than art exhibits though. We had to stop at the planetarium on the way home from the arts festival.

On the topic of graphic sexuality I'm with Punk-m...some people are too permissive in what they allow their kids to see and hear such as certain movies/music, etc.

I started to reply several times but decided to read the entire thread first. Now I'm not going to say any of those things. Like pretty much every other serious discussion around here there really is no point. Opinions are like assholes and all that. Glad you took him to the art show.

JustErin said:

physco185 said:

omg!!! he is sooooo cute!!!!

Art is good for them... they know it's only paintings, and it teaches them that art is not just some pink flowers in a vase

but some of those ppl looked scary to me

in the second pic there is a guy with a head band making sure no one can leave!!!!!!!

[Edited 1/7/11 3:25am]

That was a young boy, watching his friend sing for the crowd. And it was not an exit door...and it was a hat, not a headband.

i was not there... so i did not know that... it was an observation i made

u need to chill!!!!

and i mean that in the nicest possible way!!!!

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