ZombieKitten said:

Cerebus said:

Hmph. I've read every word up to this point and found it a very interesting and informative read. More men should definitely know that "once a month" is not exactly accurate. Talking about periods is anathema to a lot of men and it shouldn't be.

The only thing I can add is that I know testosterone has a very interesting side affect on women.

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Cerebus said:

Shanti0608 said:

Hmph. I've read every word up to this point and found it a very interesting and informative read. More men should definitely know that "once a month" is not exactly accurate. Talking about periods is anathema to a lot of men and it shouldn't be.

The only thing I can add is that I know testosterone has a very interesting side affect on women.

I am always happy to inform both sexes. I just did not want to gross any of the men out with too much information.

I do know a few women that must have too much testerone.

when my sister and I lived at home and every now and again we'd need to sit down and have a bitch about my dad, if he entered the room, we would pepper the conversation with words such as: tampon, menstruation etc. It was guaranteed to make him leave the house.

ZombieKitten said:

Shanti0608 said:

Exactly! She mentioned post partum, of course!

I told her that the symptoms I am having are causing me stress more than the baby because the symptoms make it hard to function.

My periods didn't settle back into a proper rhythm again until Max was 18 months. I was getting very painful mittelschmerz (ovulation pain) and feeling very down at around that time of the month. But by the time he was 2 or 3, things have gone back to a predictable pattern. Much heavier bleeding (than I ever had before I had kids) for 2 days, then 3-4 very light bleeding after, and all in all relatively painfree.

Post partum, (the time after giving birth) is still a period of adjustment for your body physically, especially hormonally.

Keep an eye on any potential PPD symptoms as well though, don't rule it out, the sufferer can often be the last one to recognise it. As far as depression fixes for the time being probably, look into natural alternatives - I'm sure UKs dark winters are not helping you at all.

I guess I fooled myself into thinking I was back to normal too soon. My periods seemed to come back quickly after the baby and they were much more heavy and lasting about 7 days. Because I was on the pill most of my adult life, I was spoiled by having them regularly and only for 3 days.

I was on schedule with my periods up until Oct time and when they went a bit crazy I blamed the stress of our trip on the 2 periods that I had that month.

The dr did say that she is not surprised that I am having some of my symptoms especially during the winter.

She puts most of it down to stress and lack of sunshine. She said that if we cannot find a physical cause, we will have to look into PPD.

Shanti0608 said:

ZombieKitten said:

My periods didn't settle back into a proper rhythm again until Max was 18 months. I was getting very painful mittelschmerz (ovulation pain) and feeling very down at around that time of the month. But by the time he was 2 or 3, things have gone back to a predictable pattern. Much heavier bleeding (than I ever had before I had kids) for 2 days, then 3-4 very light bleeding after, and all in all relatively painfree.

Post partum, (the time after giving birth) is still a period of adjustment for your body physically, especially hormonally.

Keep an eye on any potential PPD symptoms as well though, don't rule it out, the sufferer can often be the last one to recognise it. As far as depression fixes for the time being probably, look into natural alternatives - I'm sure UKs dark winters are not helping you at all.

I guess I fooled myself into thinking I was back to normal too soon. My periods seemed to come back quickly after the baby and they were much more heavy and lasting about 7 days. Because I was on the pill most of my adult life, I was spoiled by having them regularly and only for 3 days.

I was on schedule with my periods up until Oct time and when they went a bit crazy I blamed the stress of our trip on the 2 periods that I had that month.

The dr did say that she is not surprised that I am having some of my symptoms especially during the winter.

She puts most of it down to stress and lack of sunshine. She said that if we cannot find a physical cause, we will have to look into PPD.

I'd adopt a wait and see approach for the time being, perhaps keep a symptoms and mood diary and see how things improve once spring arrives.

it will also help when you keep seeing different docs each time to have this with you. They will also appreciate it

ZombieKitten said:

Shanti0608 said:

I guess I fooled myself into thinking I was back to normal too soon. My periods seemed to come back quickly after the baby and they were much more heavy and lasting about 7 days. Because I was on the pill most of my adult life, I was spoiled by having them regularly and only for 3 days.

I was on schedule with my periods up until Oct time and when they went a bit crazy I blamed the stress of our trip on the 2 periods that I had that month.

The dr did say that she is not surprised that I am having some of my symptoms especially during the winter.

She puts most of it down to stress and lack of sunshine. She said that if we cannot find a physical cause, we will have to look into PPD.

I'd adopt a wait and see approach for the time being, perhaps keep a symptoms and mood diary and see how things improve once spring arrives.

it will also help when you keep seeing different docs each time to have this with you. They will also appreciate it

That is what I think I will do for now. I get too frustrated and worked up when I go to the dr and nothing is resolved.

My mom is feaking out though because she had the bleeding before menopause and had to have a DNC because of the thickening of her endometrial wall.

Which can lead to cancer. It is hard for her because she is 5000 miles away so she can only nag me through email and yahoo IM.

I have been keeping a log of my bleeding on the calendar on my phone so I can keep track to see if it gets better.

I just need to make sure that I get back to taking my Vit D3 to get me through the winter.

I think I was a lizard in a previous life.

Shanti0608 said:

ZombieKitten said:

I'd adopt a wait and see approach for the time being, perhaps keep a symptoms and mood diary and see how things improve once spring arrives.

it will also help when you keep seeing different docs each time to have this with you. They will also appreciate it

That is what I think I will do for now. I get too frustrated and worked up when I go to the dr and nothing is resolved.

My mom is feaking out though because she had the bleeding before menopause and had to have a DNC because of the thickening of her endometrial wall.

Which can lead to cancer. It is hard for her because she is 5000 miles away so she can only nag me through email and yahoo IM.

I have been keeping a log of my bleeding on the calendar on my phone so I can keep track to see if it gets better.

I just need to make sure that I get back to taking my Vit D3 to get me through the winter.

I think I was a lizard in a previous life.

I'm pretty sure UK is wrong place for Floridians

your mum could also be correct in her opinion if this is something likely to be hereditary, and even if she is what preventative measures can be taken?

My sister had D&Cs a few times thanks to her endometriosis it really sucks

ZombieKitten said:

Shanti0608 said:

That is what I think I will do for now. I get too frustrated and worked up when I go to the dr and nothing is resolved.

My mom is feaking out though because she had the bleeding before menopause and had to have a DNC because of the thickening of her endometrial wall.

Which can lead to cancer. It is hard for her because she is 5000 miles away so she can only nag me through email and yahoo IM.

I have been keeping a log of my bleeding on the calendar on my phone so I can keep track to see if it gets better.

I just need to make sure that I get back to taking my Vit D3 to get me through the winter.

I think I was a lizard in a previous life.

I'm pretty sure UK is wrong place for Floridians

your mum could also be correct in her opinion if this is something likely to be hereditary, and even if she is what preventative measures can be taken?

My sister had D&Cs a few times thanks to her endometriosis it really sucks

Ha! When I typed DNC, I was like, "that's not right. Then I went on and did the spell check at the end.

Lawd! I am losing it. I spent 19 years in the medical profession and I mispell that.

My mom said she felt much better after her D&C.

I will give it a few more months to see if it straightens out. Maybe when the little man is 18 months, I will re-evaluate how I feel.

Come next winter we will be in a warmer, sunnier place.

Shanti0608 said:

ZombieKitten said:

I'm pretty sure UK is wrong place for Floridians

your mum could also be correct in her opinion if this is something likely to be hereditary, and even if she is what preventative measures can be taken?

My sister had D&Cs a few times thanks to her endometriosis it really sucks

Ha! When I typed DNC, I was like, "that's not right. Then I went on and did the spell check at the end.

Lawd! I am losing it. I spent 19 years in the medical profession and I mispell that.

My mom said she felt much better after her D&C.

I will give it a few more months to see if it straightens out. Maybe when the little man is 18 months, I will re-evaluate how I feel.

Come next winter we will be in a warmer, sunnier place.

I just assumed that's how you foreign folks wrote it!!!

in the meantime, read everything you can get your hands on, it doesn't hurt (unless you are a hypochondriac who develops every symptom they read about )

I always like to be armed with knowledge.

And YOU know your body best good to see hear are listening and taking note!

You should come HERE +35°C tomorrow

ZombieKitten said:

Shanti0608 said:

Ha! When I typed DNC, I was like, "that's not right. Then I went on and did the spell check at the end.

Lawd! I am losing it. I spent 19 years in the medical profession and I mispell that.

My mom said she felt much better after her D&C.

I will give it a few more months to see if it straightens out. Maybe when the little man is 18 months, I will re-evaluate how I feel.

Come next winter we will be in a warmer, sunnier place.

I just assumed that's how you foreign folks wrote it!!!

in the meantime, read everything you can get your hands on, it doesn't hurt (unless you are a hypochondriac who develops every symptom they read about )

I always like to be armed with knowledge.

And YOU know your body best good to see hear are listening and taking note!

You should come HERE +35°C tomorrow

Whoa! That is too hot.

I don't know how ppl from the UK adjust to living where you are.

I find that I do ok with the cold weather, it is the lack of sunshine that I struggle with the most.

I don' tend to have a problem with reading things and thinking I have all of them. Years of working in clinical research teaches you a lot about pinpointing symptoms.

I was concerned about my thyroid since someone on my fathers side of the family told me that my father was diagnosed with Grave's disease in the past two years. His sister was diagnosed with it when she was in her 30's.

He is also diabetic and has high blood pressure.

Shanti0608 said:

ZombieKitten said:

I just assumed that's how you foreign folks wrote it!!!

in the meantime, read everything you can get your hands on, it doesn't hurt (unless you are a hypochondriac who develops every symptom they read about )

I always like to be armed with knowledge.

And YOU know your body best good to see hear are listening and taking note!

You should come HERE +35°C tomorrow

Whoa! That is too hot.

I don't know how ppl from the UK adjust to living where you are.

I find that I do ok with the cold weather, it is the lack of sunshine that I struggle with the most.

I don' tend to have a problem with reading things and thinking I have all of them. Years of working in clinical research teaches you a lot about pinpointing symptoms.

I was concerned about my thyroid since someone on my fathers side of the family told me that my father was diagnosed with Grave's disease in the past two years. His sister was diagnosed with it when she was in her 30's.

He is also diabetic and has high blood pressure.

don't worry too much

kiss your guys for me

ZombieKitten said:

Shanti0608 said:

Whoa! That is too hot.

I don't know how ppl from the UK adjust to living where you are.

I find that I do ok with the cold weather, it is the lack of sunshine that I struggle with the most.

I don' tend to have a problem with reading things and thinking I have all of them. Years of working in clinical research teaches you a lot about pinpointing symptoms.

I was concerned about my thyroid since someone on my fathers side of the family told me that my father was diagnosed with Grave's disease in the past two years. His sister was diagnosed with it when she was in her 30's.

He is also diabetic and has high blood pressure.

don't worry too much

kiss your guys for me

I feel very lucky so far considering the all of the ailments my family have. My father is also very heavy and does not take care of himself. I think all of this is just payback for being a jerk.

I will give the little man a big hug and a kiss when he wakes from his nap. He is into kissing everything at the moment. By everything, I mean his toys, his sippy cup and my phone. Unfortunately, I usually am not on the list, I have to sneak them in. I hope he becomes cuddly one day. He is clingy when he does not feel well but he does not want cuddles, is that a typical boy thing?

Shanti0608 said:

ZombieKitten said:

don't worry too much

kiss your guys for me

I feel very lucky so far considering the all of the ailments my family have. My father is also very heavy and does not take care of himself. I think all of this is just payback for being a jerk.

I will give the little man a big hug and a kiss when he wakes from his nap. He is into kissing everything at the moment. By everything, I mean his toys, his sippy cup and my phone. Unfortunately, I usually am not on the list, I have to sneak them in. I hope he becomes cuddly one day. He is clingy when he does not feel well but he does not want cuddles, is that a typical boy thing?

I don't know

mine are all cuddly, even now when they are big.

Kiss your BIG guy for me too!

ZombieKitten said:

Shanti0608 said:

I feel very lucky so far considering the all of the ailments my family have. My father is also very heavy and does not take care of himself. I think all of this is just payback for being a jerk.

I will give the little man a big hug and a kiss when he wakes from his nap. He is into kissing everything at the moment. By everything, I mean his toys, his sippy cup and my phone. Unfortunately, I usually am not on the list, I have to sneak them in. I hope he becomes cuddly one day. He is clingy when he does not feel well but he does not want cuddles, is that a typical boy thing?

I don't know

mine are all cuddly, even now when they are big.

Kiss your BIG guy for me too!

Oh yes, big guy will get a kiss from you tonight when he gets home from work. I am sure he will like that.

I want a cuddly monster. When he hurts himself, he wants me for like a split second, then he wants to deal with it by himself.

I still haven't had a nap with him. This morning he woke early so I brought him in bed with me. It was pitch black in the room and as soon as I tried to lay him in the bed, he sat up and started talking and playing. He will not lay down in our bed.

I don't feel competent to say much about this, but I really hope you feel better and more peaceful soon

Shanti0608 said:

ZombieKitten said:

I don't know

mine are all cuddly, even now when they are big.

Kiss your BIG guy for me too!

Oh yes, big guy will get a kiss from you tonight when he gets home from work. I am sure he will like that.

I want a cuddly monster. When he hurts himself, he wants me for like a split second, then he wants to deal with it by himself.

I still haven't had a nap with him. This morning he woke early so I brought him in bed with me. It was pitch black in the room and as soon as I tried to lay him in the bed, he sat up and started talking and playing. He will not lay down in our bed.

all kids are different

I've never had a nap with ANY of mine, to be honest I've never wanted one either

to Phil

ZombieKitten said:

Shanti0608 said:

Oh yes, big guy will get a kiss from you tonight when he gets home from work. I am sure he will like that.

I want a cuddly monster. When he hurts himself, he wants me for like a split second, then he wants to deal with it by himself.

I still haven't had a nap with him. This morning he woke early so I brought him in bed with me. It was pitch black in the room and as soon as I tried to lay him in the bed, he sat up and started talking and playing. He will not lay down in our bed.

all kids are different

I've never had a nap with ANY of mine, to be honest I've never wanted one either

to Phil

Aelis said:

ZombieKitten said:

all kids are different

I've never had a nap with ANY of mine, to be honest I've never wanted one either

to Phil

they are cute and cuddly for a little while, but then afterwards you want to stretch out and sleep

I kick the dog out too, before I go to sleep, he has a tendency to be exactly where I want my legs!

ZombieKitten said:

Aelis said:

they are cute and cuddly for a little while, but then afterwards you want to stretch out and sleep

I kick the dog out too, before I go to sleep, he has a tendency to be exactly where I want my legs!

Mhm, I see, but the way you said it really made me laugh! xD

Aelis said:

ZombieKitten said:

they are cute and cuddly for a little while, but then afterwards you want to stretch out and sleep

I kick the dog out too, before I go to sleep, he has a tendency to be exactly where I want my legs!

Mhm, I see, but the way you said it really made me laugh! xD

ZombieKitten said:

Aelis said:

Mhm, I see, but the way you said it really made me laugh! xD

And I needed it, I'm feeling quite tense these days because I have so much work to do

back to you!

Aelis said:

ZombieKitten said:

And I needed it, I'm feeling quite tense these days because I have so much work to do

back to you!

what a shame there is no massage smiley, I need one too

ZombieKitten said:

Aelis said:

And I needed it, I'm feeling quite tense these days because I have so much work to do

back to you!

what a shame there is no massage smiley, I need one too

Yeah, I guess it would be quite appropriate right now!

Aelis said:

ZombieKitten said:

what a shame there is no massage smiley, I need one too

Yeah, I guess it would be quite appropriate right now!

here ya go!

[img:$uid]http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/sexinthesummer/MassageTherapistsmiley.gif[/img:$uid]

sexinthesummer said:

Aelis said:

Yeah, I guess it would be quite appropriate right now!

here ya go!

[img:$uid]http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/sexinthesummer/MassageTherapistsmiley.gif[/img:$uid]

Haha, thank you!

ZombieKitten said:

Shanti0608 said:

Exactly! She mentioned post partum, of course!

I told her that the symptoms I am having are causing me stress more than the baby because the symptoms make it hard to function.

My periods didn't settle back into a proper rhythm again until Max was 18 months. I was getting very painful mittelschmerz (ovulation pain) and feeling very down at around that time of the month. But by the time he was 2 or 3, things have gone back to a predictable pattern. Much heavier bleeding (than I ever had before I had kids) for 2 days, then 3-4 very light bleeding after, and all in all relatively painfree.

Post partum, (the time after giving birth) is still a period of adjustment for your body physically, especially hormonally.

Keep an eye on any potential PPD symptoms as well though, don't rule it out, the sufferer can often be the last one to recognise it. As far as depression fixes for the time being probably, look into natural alternatives - I'm sure UKs dark winters are not helping you at all.

Which reminds me - a Vitamin D3 supplement might not be amiss, either. It won't help with the periods, but it definitely helps with mood, weight and a whole bunch of other stuff.

Your vitamin D level should be between 30 and 100 - and closer to the high end, if possible. A couple years ago, my doctor tested me and mine was 17. No wonder I felt like crap!

I've supplemented ever since (even in summer, since I work full time and don't get enough time outside to make my own D). Even so, when I was tested a month ago, my reading was only 36 - barely a passing grade. So my new doctor wants me on 10,000 IU of D3 daily for a month (again, ), 5000/day for another month after that, then 2000/day to maintain.

And this is not a problem that affects only women. Sweetie's been seriously vitamin D-deficient, too. (Double whammy of being a black person living in an "indoor" climate and no longer having an ileum due to Crohn's disease.)

Genesia said:

ZombieKitten said:

My periods didn't settle back into a proper rhythm again until Max was 18 months. I was getting very painful mittelschmerz (ovulation pain) and feeling very down at around that time of the month. But by the time he was 2 or 3, things have gone back to a predictable pattern. Much heavier bleeding (than I ever had before I had kids) for 2 days, then 3-4 very light bleeding after, and all in all relatively painfree.

Post partum, (the time after giving birth) is still a period of adjustment for your body physically, especially hormonally.

Keep an eye on any potential PPD symptoms as well though, don't rule it out, the sufferer can often be the last one to recognise it. As far as depression fixes for the time being probably, look into natural alternatives - I'm sure UKs dark winters are not helping you at all.

Which reminds me - a Vitamin D3 supplement might not be amiss, either. It won't help with the periods, but it definitely helps with mood, weight and a whole bunch of other stuff.

Your vitamin D level should be between 30 and 100 - and closer to the high end, if possible. A couple years ago, my doctor tested me and mine was 17. No wonder I felt like crap!

I've supplemented ever since (even in summer, since I work full time and don't get enough time outside to make my own D). Even so, when I was tested a month ago, my reading was only 36 - barely a passing grade. So my new doctor wants me on 10,000 IU of D3 daily for a month (again, ), 5000/day for another month after that, then 2000/day to maintain.

And this is not a problem that affects only women. Sweetie's been seriously vitamin D-deficient, too. (Double whammy of being a black person living in an "indoor" climate and no longer having an ileum due to Crohn's disease.)

my D level was 8 in May (she told me normal was between 30 and 80).. she put me on a 25,000 pill once a week for 3 months...

I felt so much better... and like amonth after I ran out -- I started feeling crappy again and it got progressively worse (but I'm dealing with really crappy landlord [a relative] bullshit that has me pretty upset so I don't know how much is b/c of D deficiency/how much is external stress)..

I've been taking 1,000 a day and it's helped some, but I know I have to get back to doc ... hoping I can make an appt in January..

[Edited 12/30/10 5:45am]

- double post

[Edited 12/30/10 5:44am]

PositivityNYC said:

Genesia said:

Which reminds me - a Vitamin D3 supplement might not be amiss, either. It won't help with the periods, but it definitely helps with mood, weight and a whole bunch of other stuff.

Your vitamin D level should be between 30 and 100 - and closer to the high end, if possible. A couple years ago, my doctor tested me and mine was 17. No wonder I felt like crap!

I've supplemented ever since (even in summer, since I work full time and don't get enough time outside to make my own D). Even so, when I was tested a month ago, my reading was only 36 - barely a passing grade. So my new doctor wants me on 10,000 IU of D3 daily for a month (again, ), 5000/day for another month after that, then 2000/day to maintain.

And this is not a problem that affects only women. Sweetie's been seriously vitamin D-deficient, too. (Double whammy of being a black person living in an "indoor" climate and no longer having an ileum due to Crohn's disease.)

my D level was 8 in May (she told me normal was between 30 and 80).. she put me on a 25,000 pill once a week for 3 months...

I felt so much better... and like amonth after I ran out -- I started feeling crappy again and it got progressively worse (but I'm dealing with really crappy landlord [a relative] bullshit that has me pretty upset so I don't know how much is b/c of D deficiency/how much is external stress)..

I've been taking 1,000 a day and it's helped some, but I know I have to get back to doc ... hoping I can make an appt in January..

Well, you have to maintain it!

1000/day probably isn't enough for you. NOW makes a good 5000 IU gel cap. Best prices I know of for vitamins is at iherb.com

Genesia said:

PositivityNYC said:

my D level was 8 in May (she told me normal was between 30 and 80).. she put me on a 25,000 pill once a week for 3 months...

I felt so much better... and like amonth after I ran out -- I started feeling crappy again and it got progressively worse (but I'm dealing with really crappy landlord [a relative] bullshit that has me pretty upset so I don't know how much is b/c of D deficiency/how much is external stress)..

I've been taking 1,000 a day and it's helped some, but I know I have to get back to doc ... hoping I can make an appt in January..

Well, you have to maintain it!

1000/day probably isn't enough for you. NOW makes a good 5000 IU gel cap. Best prices I know of for vitamins is at iherb.com

I knew you would get on me for that..

but like I didn't expect to feel so much better just with that -- or how quickly I felt crappy again

thx for the link!!