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Thread started 12/28/10 3:29pm

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Mich. man faces charges for reading wife's e-mail

This seems a bit excessive. What do u think?

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ROCHESTER HILLS, Mich. — A Rochester Hills man who says he learned of his wife's affair by reading her e-mail on their computer faces trial Feb. 7 on felony computer misuse charges.

In this photo taken Dec. 22, 2010, Leon Walker, 33, stands next to the swing set he built for his 3-year-old daughter, Lailana Walker, outside Rochester Hills, Mich. home. Walker, who says he learned of his wife’s affair by reading her e-mail on their computer, faces trial Feb. 7. on felony computer misuse charges. (AP Photo/Detroit Free Press, Kimberly P. Mitchell) MANDATORY CREDIT, NO SALES, NO MAGS, DETROIT NEWS OUT

Thirty-three-year-old Leon Walker used his wife's password to get into her Gmail account. Clara Walker filed for a divorce, which was granted this month.

Leon Walker tells The Oakland Press of Pontiac he was trying to protect the couple's children from neglect and calls the case a "miscarriage of justice."

http://www.ajc.com/busine...88853.html

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Reply #1 posted 12/28/10 3:35pm

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that's a weird pic. is there a baby in that swing? all slumped over?

"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #2 posted 12/28/10 3:54pm

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I heard this crap this morning on the news. This is one of the craziest things I've ever heard.

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Reply #3 posted 12/28/10 4:15pm

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Shorty said:

that's a weird pic. is there a baby in that swing? all slumped over?

Its ice and snow packed in there.... its a shame that he has to go through all that. Dirty business indeed!

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Reply #4 posted 12/28/10 5:54pm

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paintedlady said:

Shorty said:

that's a weird pic. is there a baby in that swing? all slumped over?

Its ice and snow packed in there.... its a shame that he has to go through all that. Dirty business indeed!

oooh! now I see it. phew!

anyway...there's not a lot of detail in this story. it says he used "their" computer but...it also said she had filed for divorce. When? way before he hacked into her account? was she still living there?

He should have NEVER gone into her mail. period. I don't think he should do jail time though.

"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #5 posted 12/28/10 5:56pm

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i got the impression from another article about this that he hacked into her account AFTER she filed for divorce, when he was looking for 'evidence' that he could use against her in the divorce proceedings.

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Reply #6 posted 12/28/10 6:06pm

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Good. People need to understand that reading someone else's mail/email is illegal.

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Reply #7 posted 12/28/10 8:00pm

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daPrettyman said:

I heard this crap this morning on the news. This is one of the craziest things I've ever heard.

I live in Oakland County where this case originates and I'm not surprised at all! lol

There are some fucked up ass laws on the books, in many communities. It pays to do some research and learn about where you live. nod

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Reply #8 posted 12/28/10 8:08pm

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Reply #9 posted 12/28/10 8:22pm

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:



daPrettyman said:


I heard this crap this morning on the news. This is one of the craziest things I've ever heard.





I live in Oakland County where this case originates and I'm not surprised at all! lol



There are some fucked up ass laws on the books, in many communities. It pays to do some research and learn about where you live. nod





But this is not a fucked up law. You have never been allowed to read other people's mail...email is no different.
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Reply #10 posted 12/28/10 8:22pm

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XxAxX said:

i got the impression from another article about this that he hacked into her account AFTER she filed for divorce, when he was looking for 'evidence' that he could use against her in the divorce proceedings.

Here's the link to a local story covering the situation:


http://www.clickondetroit...etail.html

From what I can gather...

They were married. They each used the same computer in their home. He did not "hack" into her email account. He knew the password because she had previously given it to him, with her consent to check her emails.

He was her third husband. She was allegedly having an affair on him with her second husband (which he discovered in her emails) who was arrested for allegedly abusing her.

The third husband was upset over learning of the affair, which lead to their divorce. During those proceedings, the third husband who has a child with the wife, turned over the emails to her first husband, who also has a child with the wife and he took action to have his child protected from her allegedly abusive relationship with the second husband as did the third husband.

It is here that she got angry and called the police and had the third husband arrested under an obscure state statute that prohibits unlawful access to a computer system, program or network.

whew If there were ever a time that I would love to be on jury duty for a case...this is it! nod

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Reply #11 posted 12/28/10 8:25pm

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Heres what I don't get.

So it's illegal to read someone elses email.

But its okay to sell keyloggers and all that shit in order to read every key stroke and password?

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Reply #12 posted 12/28/10 8:30pm

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Everything is possible in America.

yeah its ridiculos disbelief we got murderers, rapists, and child molesters running around this country everyday but yet we would rather focus on someone reading their WIFES emails disbelief Unbelievable.

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Reply #13 posted 12/28/10 8:32pm

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JustErin said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I live in Oakland County where this case originates and I'm not surprised at all! lol

There are some fucked up ass laws on the books, in many communities. It pays to do some research and learn about where you live. nod

But this is not a fucked up law. You have never been allowed to read other people's mail...email is no different.

But it is a fucked up law because he is not charged with reading her email (which by the way is NOT protected by the United States Postal Service under Federal Law as regular mail is) he's being charge under an obscure state of Michigan statute that prohibits unlawful access to a computer system, program or network.

Which is ridiculous, if they at anytime during the course of their marriage, shared the same computer that he used to read her emails. shrug

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Reply #14 posted 12/28/10 8:49pm

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XxAxX said:

i got the impression from another article about this that he hacked into her account AFTER she filed for divorce, when he was looking for 'evidence' that he could use against her in the divorce proceedings.

Which means she probably was running from his psycho ass and he needs to be CHARGED! Of course, she could be plain evil but the verdict depends on who is the more out of control. Her for being a ho or him for pushing her ass out onto the streets in despair lol

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Reply #15 posted 12/28/10 8:52pm

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

daPrettyman said:

I heard this crap this morning on the news. This is one of the craziest things I've ever heard.

I live in Oakland County where this case originates and I'm not surprised at all! lol

There are some fucked up ass laws on the books, in many communities. It pays to do some research and learn about where you live. nod

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Reply #16 posted 12/28/10 8:54pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I live in Oakland County where this case originates and I'm not surprised at all! lol

There are some fucked up ass laws on the books, in many communities. It pays to do some research and learn about where you live. nod

You're in Cali? lurking

I WISH! I'm in Oakland County (cold as fuck) Michigan. Brrrr! lol

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Reply #17 posted 12/28/10 9:09pm

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

You're in Cali? lurking

I WISH! I'm in Oakland County (cold as fuck) Michigan. Brrrr! lol

I was about to steal a car and drive up there! lol hug

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Reply #18 posted 12/28/10 9:11pm

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I heard about this on the Today this morning. I don't know how this woman even has a case. Besides, if she wasn't doing wrong, he would not have had a reason to go snooping.

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Reply #19 posted 12/28/10 9:21pm

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Vanillah said:

I heard about this on the Today this morning. I don't know how this woman even has a case. Besides, if she wasn't doing wrong, he would not have had a reason to go snooping.

If the man is a psycho, then wandering off is the right thing to do. far far away from psychoville.

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Vanillah said:

I heard about this on the Today this morning. I don't know how this woman even has a case. Besides, if she wasn't doing wrong, he would not have had a reason to go snooping.

If the man is a psycho, then wandering off is the right thing to do. far far away from psychoville.

The right thing to do would be to get a divorce THEN move on to someone else. Apparently, this mad had reason to believe his wife was cheating and found the confirmation he wanted when he read her emails. It's a monumental waste of the court system's time to convict HIM of anything.

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Reply #21 posted 12/28/10 9:42pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I WISH! I'm in Oakland County (cold as fuck) Michigan. Brrrr! lol

I was about to steal a car and drive up there! lol hug

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Reply #22 posted 12/28/10 9:43pm

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

JustErin said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said: But this is not a fucked up law. You have never been allowed to read other people's mail...email is no different.

But it is a fucked up law because he is not charged with reading her email (which by the way is NOT protected by the United States Postal Service under Federal Law as regular mail is) he's being charge under an obscure state of Michigan statute that prohibits unlawful access to a computer system, program or network.

Which is ridiculous, if they at anytime during the course of their marriage, shared the same computer that he used to read her emails. shrug

Why would it be protected by the USPS? They have nothing to do with email.

The bottom line is that no one should be reading someone else's personal email without their permission - this includes your spouse. On a shared computer or not.

It shouldn't be an obscure law, it should be a law enforced in every singe state and hopefully it will be when the rest of the country catches up with these modern times.

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Reply #23 posted 12/28/10 10:21pm

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Vanillah said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

If the man is a psycho, then wandering off is the right thing to do. far far away from psychoville.

The right thing to do would be to get a divorce THEN move on to someone else. Apparently, this mad had reason to believe his wife was cheating and found the confirmation he wanted when he read her emails. It's a monumental waste of the court system's time to convict HIM of anything.

Says you. Have you ever left a psycho? rules schmules. if he's a psycho then anything is fair game.

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Reply #24 posted 12/28/10 10:30pm

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That's nothing. This guy hacked into a computer and got charged with rape!!

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Reply #25 posted 12/28/10 10:48pm

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JustErin said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I live in Oakland County where this case originates and I'm not surprised at all! lol

There are some fucked up ass laws on the books, in many communities. It pays to do some research and learn about where you live. nod

But this is not a fucked up law. You have never been allowed to read other people's mail...email is no different.

I read my husband's email and snail mail all the time. Should I be arrested for it. NO!

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Reply #26 posted 12/28/10 10:58pm

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Without his permission?

Ugh, typing on the iPad is annoying.
[Edited 12/28/10 14:59pm]
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Reply #27 posted 12/28/10 11:09pm

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JustErin said:

Without his permission? Ugh, typing on the iPad is annoying. [Edited 12/28/10 14:59pm]

Sometimes yes, but he's the one who gave me the password. And most of his snail mail has my name on it too. I don't see anything wrong with it.

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GetAwayFromMe said:

JustErin said:

Without his permission? Ugh, typing on the iPad is annoying. [Edited 12/28/10 14:59pm]

Sometimes yes, but he's the one who gave me the password. And most of his snail mail has my name on it too. I don't see anything wrong with it.

I understand that some couples share this info and you might not see anything wrong with it, but if the person who's email you're reading without his permission at some point does...then you should be ok with being charged as per the law....because that is the law.

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Reply #29 posted 12/28/10 11:22pm

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

XxAxX said:

i got the impression from another article about this that he hacked into her account AFTER she filed for divorce, when he was looking for 'evidence' that he could use against her in the divorce proceedings.

Here's the link to a local story covering the situation:


http://www.clickondetroit...etail.html

From what I can gather...

They were married. They each used the same computer in their home. He did not "hack" into her email account. He knew the password because she had previously given it to him, with her consent to check her emails.

He was her third husband. She was allegedly having an affair on him with her second husband (which he discovered in her emails) who was arrested for allegedly abusing her.

The third husband was upset over learning of the affair, which lead to their divorce. During those proceedings, the third husband who has a child with the wife, turned over the emails to her first husband, who also has a child with the wife and he took action to have his child protected from her allegedly abusive relationship with the second husband as did the third husband.

It is here that she got angry and called the police and had the third husband arrested under an obscure state statute that prohibits unlawful access to a computer system, program or network.

whew If there were ever a time that I would love to be on jury duty for a case...this is it! nod

that bitch is crazy.... she just mad she got caught -- and with a guy [hubby #2] who used to abuse her?!

how stupid is she to put herself -- and her kids -- in danger like that? hmph!

I hope hubby #3 (charged) and hubby #1 are able to protect their kids ~ and that #3's charges get dropped/he's found not guilty...

if you're going to cheat, do you use the same email account that you know your husband has access to -- b/c you gave him your password.. to use on a computer you both share ??? rolleyes lol

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