I find this typical of kids who grow up without 2 parents to educate them and discipline them; instead having their wack ass childhood friends teaching them how to act in public. I've seen kids challenge adults and fight other kids. The fact that she would act so indignant and uncouth is very disconcerting. Maybe she was a gang member. Eh....you should have let your daughter wupp that ass. Teenagers want to act like adults then they need to suffer adult consequences for bad behavior.

JustErin said:

paintedlady said:

I think it depends on culture... if someone my age disrespected my mom, I would beat the shit outta them.

Its just how things are... but Butterfly said she held her daughter back, like any good mother would do. That girl just loves her mom. Nothing wrong with that, I'd think there would be something wrong with a child that didn't get that way over their mom when a peer disrespectd her.

Yes, I know it can be cultural differences. It's still not something I agree with whatsoever. Being protective does not have to include being violent and you're implying that someone who does not respond in such a way does not love their mom as much. But I'm sure you didn't really mean to imply that though...

I just personally think there is something wrong with a person who resorts to violence...especially when it has to do with something like being "disrespected".

I'm glad the teen didn't have the reaction to get violent as well...what a mess it could have been. People could have been really hurt all over "respect".

ya, maybe my culture is taught to roll their eyes over disrespectful idiots, not to roll in the mud with the pigs

angel345 said:

A lot of these teenagers are a piece of work, nowadays. It's good that no fight broke out or else all of you would possibly had went to jail. I think the usher and management should have put the girl out.

I like this post better.

JustErin said:

paintedlady said:

I think it depends on culture... if someone my age disrespected my mom, I would beat the shit outta them.

Its just how things are... but Butterfly said she held her daughter back, like any good mother would do. That girl just loves her mom. Nothing wrong with that, I'd think there would be something wrong with a child that didn't get that way over their mom when a peer disrespectd her.

Yes, I know it can be cultural differences. It's still not something I agree with whatsoever. Being protective does not have to include being violent and you're implying that someone who does not respond in such a way does not love their mom as much. But I'm sure you didn't really mean to imply that though...

I just personally think there is something wrong with a person who resorts to violence...especially when it has to do with something like being "disrespected".

I'm glad the teen didn't have the reaction to get violent as well...what a mess it could have been. People could have been really hurt all over "respect".

How I was raised, if you weren't ready to go to bat for your mom... if a teen disrespected your mother and you did nothing, then yes, you absolutely did NOT love your mother.

Like I said before and i said it again, her daughters reaction was a normal one, and her mother did the right thing by breaking them apart.

That disrespectful teen knew that an adult would most likely not hit her since laws in this country sorta protec teens more than adults in situations like that, so to me both teens were ready to fight eachother, because that teen did seen just as violent as Butterfli's daughter.

and like I said, when I was a teen, if you didn't fight for your mom, you are just a coward and don't love your mom. Its just the way it is.

Whether you agree with that is besides the point, Butterfli did the right thing, she did NOT want the girls to fight and resorted to holding the other teen friend and her own daughter down. To imply that she is not raising her daughter right is just wrong and judgemental on your part since you do not understand the culture. Its not just an issue about simple disrespect, it goes way deeper than that.

But then, different strokes for different folks.....

NDRU said:

JustErin said:

Yes, I know it can be cultural differences. It's still not something I agree with whatsoever. Being protective does not have to include being violent and you're implying that someone who does not respond in such a way does not love their mom as much. But I'm sure you didn't really mean to imply that though...

I just personally think there is something wrong with a person who resorts to violence...especially when it has to do with something like being "disrespected".

I'm glad the teen didn't have the reaction to get violent as well...what a mess it could have been. People could have been really hurt all over "respect".

ya, maybe my culture is taught to roll their eyes over disrespectful idiots, not to roll in the mud with the pigs

Ya know I don't expect you to do anything that a teenager would do, I don't think ANY adult on this thread would.

paintedlady said:

JustErin said:

I'm so glad nothing physical happened. It's a shame people are so disrespectful of each other some times.

But it looks like I'm the only one that would be more than a little upset that my child is willing to resort to violence as a way to resolve something.

I think it depends on culture... if someone my age disrespected my mom, I would beat the shit outta them.

Its just how things are... but Butterfly said she held her daughter back, like any good mother would do. That girl just loves her mom. Nothing wrong with that, I'd think there would be something wrong with a child that didn't get that way over their mom when a peer disrespectd her.

This was going to be my response, too. I think it's definitely a cultural thing. Erin, I'm willing to bet you're far from the only one who feels this way. It depends, I think, on where you live and your environment.

butterfli25 said:

so me my daughter and her friend went to see Unstoppable tonight and the girls were in the bathroom when I went to get our seats. So I walk in and I find 3 seats together and i put my coat and purse in them from behind the seats and then I walked around. as I was walking around some kids were standing at the end of the aisle and one little girl was sitting down. As I was moving my way by her to my seat which was 5 past her, she says what are you doing? I said I am going to my seat she said well we were here first and I said what? she said you need to move and I said little girl who are you talking to, she said you and I said little girl please and kept moving so she turned in her seat and said you disrespected me and I said what? you are a child and she said I am not a child and I said yes you are, PLEASE, and she said I am not a child I am a a a a teenager and I said child and at that point she said you need to shut the fuck up and I said who are you talking you you need to shut the fuck up...and then I stopped realizing I am an adult in public in a theater full of teenagers that I know. My daughter and her friend walked up at that point and the child is still talking and the friend said mama is she talking to you? and I said yes and then immediately NO! but by then she had dropped her stuff and was running toward this girl calling her a hoe and not to talk like that to her mama. My daughter jumped over the seats but was grabbed by the usher who had also started yelling at this child. I ran to my daughter's friend and literally held her back from getting at this girl. management came and asked me some questions but no one got kicked out. So then we watched the movie and after all my kids came up to me about this girl. I told them all to stop and forget it because no more shit. BUT Damn I have NEVER wanted to slap a child so bad in my life. I haven't seen anyone go from calm to killer that fast in a long time either, it took everything I had to stop my daughter's friend from hurting that girl.

i'd leave if anything like this happened in a movie theater. be like, see yas

paintedlady said:

JustErin said:

Yes, I know it can be cultural differences. It's still not something I agree with whatsoever. Being protective does not have to include being violent and you're implying that someone who does not respond in such a way does not love their mom as much. But I'm sure you didn't really mean to imply that though...

I just personally think there is something wrong with a person who resorts to violence...especially when it has to do with something like being "disrespected".

I'm glad the teen didn't have the reaction to get violent as well...what a mess it could have been. People could have been really hurt all over "respect".

How I was raised, if you weren't ready to go to bat for your mom... if a teen disrespected your mother and you did nothing, then yes, you absolutely did NOT love your mother.

Like I said before and i said it again, her daughters reaction was a normal one, and her mother did the right thing by breaking them apart.

That disrespectful teen knew that an adult would most likely not hit her since laws in this country sorta protec teens more than adults in situations like that, so to me both teens were ready to fight eachother, because that teen did seen just as violent as Butterfli's daughter.

and like I said, when I was a teen, if you didn't fight for your mom, you are just a coward and don't love your mom. Its just the way it is.

Whether you agree with that is besides the point, Butterfli did the right thing, she did NOT want the girls to fight and resorted to holding the other teen friend and her own daughter down. To imply that she is not raising her daughter right is just wrong and judgemental on your part since you do not understand the culture. Its not just an issue about simple disrespect, it goes way deeper than that.

But then, different strokes for different folks.....

Being ready and willing to bat for you family has nothing to do with violence. It's a shame that so many people raise violent children - whatever culture that may be (which btw, is just as strong in the white community).

And not once did I say I thought she was raising her child wrong. I agree that not letting her fight was the right thing to do. I simply said that I would be concerned that they were so quick to want to respond violently if it was my child....and maybe she did feel that way. I was just responding to all the cheers from posters on here that her daughter's response was appropriate.

JustErin said:

paintedlady said:

I think it depends on culture... if someone my age disrespected my mom, I would beat the shit outta them.

Its just how things are... but Butterfly said she held her daughter back, like any good mother would do. That girl just loves her mom. Nothing wrong with that, I'd think there would be something wrong with a child that didn't get that way over their mom when a peer disrespectd her.

Yes, I know it can be cultural differences. It's still not something I agree with whatsoever. Being protective does not have to include being violent and you're implying that someone who does not respond in such a way does not love their mom as much. But I'm sure you didn't really mean to imply that though...

I just personally think there is something wrong with a person who resorts to violence...especially when it has to do with something like being "disrespected".

I'm glad the teen didn't have the reaction to get violent as well...what a mess it could have been. People could have been really hurt all over "respect".

"Respect" means different things to different people. Like I said before, environment and context play a big part. In some areas, a physical fight breaking out in a movie theater would be extremely uncommon and shocking. In other places, where fighting for respect is a common occurrence and is taken for granted within a certain cultural context, it would be less so.

And it's not a "color" thing. It's a culture and environment thing.

JustErin said:

paintedlady said:

How I was raised, if you weren't ready to go to bat for your mom... if a teen disrespected your mother and you did nothing, then yes, you absolutely did NOT love your mother.

Like I said before and i said it again, her daughters reaction was a normal one, and her mother did the right thing by breaking them apart.

That disrespectful teen knew that an adult would most likely not hit her since laws in this country sorta protec teens more than adults in situations like that, so to me both teens were ready to fight eachother, because that teen did seen just as violent as Butterfli's daughter.

and like I said, when I was a teen, if you didn't fight for your mom, you are just a coward and don't love your mom. Its just the way it is.

Whether you agree with that is besides the point, Butterfli did the right thing, she did NOT want the girls to fight and resorted to holding the other teen friend and her own daughter down. To imply that she is not raising her daughter right is just wrong and judgemental on your part since you do not understand the culture. Its not just an issue about simple disrespect, it goes way deeper than that.

But then, different strokes for different folks.....

Being ready and willing to bat for you family has nothing to do with violence. It's a shame that so many people raise violent children - whatever culture that may be (which btw, is just as strong in the white community).

And not once did I say I thought she was raising her child wrong. I agree that not letting her fight was the right thing to do. I simply said that I would be concerned that they were so quick to want to respond violently if it was my child....and maybe she did feel that way. I was just responding to all the cheers from posters on here that her daughter's response was appropriate.

Her daughter's response WAS appropriate, I never once mentioned this was a "black" thing BTW.

I mentioned culture as far as urban vs. suburban culture.

In my neighborhood growing up meant that by any means possible, you protect the family... especially your mom. Its a way of life. That's the best way I can describe it.

Butterfli has no issue to be concerned with over her daughter, violence or otherwise.

JustErin said:

paintedlady said:

How I was raised, if you weren't ready to go to bat for your mom... if a teen disrespected your mother and you did nothing, then yes, you absolutely did NOT love your mother.

Like I said before and i said it again, her daughters reaction was a normal one, and her mother did the right thing by breaking them apart.

That disrespectful teen knew that an adult would most likely not hit her since laws in this country sorta protec teens more than adults in situations like that, so to me both teens were ready to fight eachother, because that teen did seen just as violent as Butterfli's daughter.

and like I said, when I was a teen, if you didn't fight for your mom, you are just a coward and don't love your mom. Its just the way it is.

Whether you agree with that is besides the point, Butterfli did the right thing, she did NOT want the girls to fight and resorted to holding the other teen friend and her own daughter down. To imply that she is not raising her daughter right is just wrong and judgemental on your part since you do not understand the culture. Its not just an issue about simple disrespect, it goes way deeper than that.

But then, different strokes for different folks.....

Being ready and willing to bat for you family has nothing to do with violence. It's a shame that so many people raise violent children - whatever culture that may be (which btw, is just as strong in the white community).

And not once did I say I thought she was raising her child wrong. I agree that not letting her fight was the right thing to do. I simply said that I would be concerned that they were so quick to want to respond violently if it was my child....and maybe she did feel that way. I was just responding to all the cheers from posters on here that her daughter's response was appropriate.

I don't think you implied that butter was raising her kid wrong. It did kind of come off like you were chastising her a bit for not showing more disappointment that her child "resorted to violence," but you may not have meant it that way.

PunkMistress said:

JustErin said:

Yes, I know it can be cultural differences. It's still not something I agree with whatsoever. Being protective does not have to include being violent and you're implying that someone who does not respond in such a way does not love their mom as much. But I'm sure you didn't really mean to imply that though...

I just personally think there is something wrong with a person who resorts to violence...especially when it has to do with something like being "disrespected".

I'm glad the teen didn't have the reaction to get violent as well...what a mess it could have been. People could have been really hurt all over "respect".

"Respect" means different things to different people. Like I said before, environment and context play a big part. In some areas, a physical fight breaking out in a movie theater would be extremely uncommon and shocking. In other places, where fighting for respect is a common occurrence and is taken for granted within a certain cultural context, it would be less so.

And it's not a "color" thing. It's a culture and environment thing.

Yeah, I know all this. It's not like I'm disconnected from cultures and environments where violence is the norm...I see it all the time.

Like I said, it's a shame so many people resort to violence as an answer...and to me the bigger shame is people think it's ok because, "that's just how it is".

JustErin said:

PunkMistress said:

"Respect" means different things to different people. Like I said before, environment and context play a big part. In some areas, a physical fight breaking out in a movie theater would be extremely uncommon and shocking. In other places, where fighting for respect is a common occurrence and is taken for granted within a certain cultural context, it would be less so.

And it's not a "color" thing. It's a culture and environment thing.

Yeah, I know all this. It's not like I'm disconnected from cultures and environments where violence is the norm...I see it all the time.

Like I said, it's a shame so many people resort to violence as an answer...and to me the bigger shame is people think it's ok because, "that's just how it is".

Teenagers tend to be passionate, and it was a normal response, nothing to have "concern" over.

Buttefli, I repeat, did NOT condone the fighting. She broke it up. Her daughter is fine, and there is not one damn thing wrong with her daughter or anything for you to feel any shame over.

paintedlady said:

JustErin said:

Being ready and willing to bat for you family has nothing to do with violence. It's a shame that so many people raise violent children - whatever culture that may be (which btw, is just as strong in the white community).

And not once did I say I thought she was raising her child wrong. I agree that not letting her fight was the right thing to do. I simply said that I would be concerned that they were so quick to want to respond violently if it was my child....and maybe she did feel that way. I was just responding to all the cheers from posters on here that her daughter's response was appropriate.

Her daughter's response WAS appropriate, I never once mentioned this was a "black" thing BTW.

I mentioned culture as far as urban vs. suburban culture.

In my neighborhood growing up meant that by any means possible, you protect the family... especially your mom. Its a way of life. That's the best way I can describe it.

Butterfli has no issue to be concerned with over her daughter, violence or otherwise.

Well, as someone who has lived in urban and suburban and rural environments, I can tell you that there is no cultural differences when it comes to this. Violence as an answer is common in all those settings. So it's not urban vs suburban at all.

But yes, it's most definitely a cultural thing, and in my opinion it's a shame that this is how it is.

PunkMistress said:

JustErin said:

Being ready and willing to bat for you family has nothing to do with violence. It's a shame that so many people raise violent children - whatever culture that may be (which btw, is just as strong in the white community).

And not once did I say I thought she was raising her child wrong. I agree that not letting her fight was the right thing to do. I simply said that I would be concerned that they were so quick to want to respond violently if it was my child....and maybe she did feel that way. I was just responding to all the cheers from posters on here that her daughter's response was appropriate.

I don't think you implied that butter was raising her kid wrong. It did kind of come off like you were chastising her a bit for not showing more disappointment that her child "resorted to violence," but you may not have meant it that way.

I was responding more to what others were saying and I was talking about how I would feel if it was my kid. I was just being as honest as every one else here.

PunkMistress said:

JustErin said:

Being ready and willing to bat for you family has nothing to do with violence. It's a shame that so many people raise violent children - whatever culture that may be (which btw, is just as strong in the white community).

And not once did I say I thought she was raising her child wrong. I agree that not letting her fight was the right thing to do. I simply said that I would be concerned that they were so quick to want to respond violently if it was my child....and maybe she did feel that way. I was just responding to all the cheers from posters on here that her daughter's response was appropriate.

I don't think you implied that butter was raising her kid wrong. It did kind of come off like you were chastising her a bit for not showing more disappointment that her child "resorted to violence," but you may not have meant it that way.

I do, I think Erin was implying just that... maybe I was mistaken, that's how she came off to me.

Just because a kid gets in a fight does not mean that a parent is raisng that child to be violent.

paintedlady said:

JustErin said:

Yeah, I know all this. It's not like I'm disconnected from cultures and environments where violence is the norm...I see it all the time.

Like I said, it's a shame so many people resort to violence as an answer...and to me the bigger shame is people think it's ok because, "that's just how it is".

Teenagers tend to be passionate, and it was a normal response, nothing to have "concern" over.

Buttefli, I repeat, did NOT condone the fighting. She broke it up. Her daughter is fine, and there is not one damn thing wrong with her daughter or anything for you to feel any shame over.

Yeah, I know they can be. I was one too once!

paintedlady said:

PunkMistress said:

I don't think you implied that butter was raising her kid wrong. It did kind of come off like you were chastising her a bit for not showing more disappointment that her child "resorted to violence," but you may not have meant it that way.

I do, I think Erin was implying just that... maybe I was mistaken, that's how she came off to me.

Just because a kid gets in a fight does not mean that a parent is raisng that child to be violent.

But they are if they condone it.

And I'm not saying butter does....as she did the opposite....she stopped it.

JustErin said:

PunkMistress said:

I don't think you implied that butter was raising her kid wrong. It did kind of come off like you were chastising her a bit for not showing more disappointment that her child "resorted to violence," but you may not have meant it that way.

I was responding more to what others were saying and I was talking about how I would feel if it was my kid. I was just being as honest as every one else here.

I hear you.

Violence is abhorrent to you and I respect that.

I don't feel the same way. Violence, to me, is a part of life and can't always be avoided. Generally it should be, but it has its place. Maybe I'm just Irish.

JustErin said:

paintedlady said:

Teenagers tend to be passionate, and it was a normal response, nothing to have "concern" over.

Buttefli, I repeat, did NOT condone the fighting. She broke it up. Her daughter is fine, and there is not one damn thing wrong with her daughter or anything for you to feel any shame over.

Yeah, I know they can be. I was one too once!

You A TEEN?? NO!!! I refuse to believe it!!

Why are you even saying what you are then? Ya know teens can be knuckleheads!

PunkMistress said:

JustErin said:

I was responding more to what others were saying and I was talking about how I would feel if it was my kid. I was just being as honest as every one else here.

I hear you.

Violence is abhorrent to you and I respect that.

I don't feel the same way. Violence, to me, is a part of life and can't always be avoided. Generally it should be, but it has its place. Maybe I'm just Irish.

Well, I don't feel that it can always be avoided...I certainly believe in defending yourself from a physical attack. I simply do not believe in throwing the first punch, that's all.

paintedlady said:

JustErin said:

Yeah, I know they can be. I was one too once!

You A TEEN?? NO!!! I refuse to believe it!!

Why are you even saying what you are then? Ya know teens can be knuckleheads!

You know, I was a handful as a teen...but I never once got into a physical altercation. I had chicks come at me, but somehow I was always able to talk my way out of anything happening.

butterfli25 said:

so me my daughter and her friend went to see Unstoppable tonight and the girls were in the bathroom when I went to get our seats. So I walk in and I find 3 seats together and i put my coat and purse in them from behind the seats and then I walked around. as I was walking around some kids were standing at the end of the aisle and one little girl was sitting down. As I was moving my way by her to my seat which was 5 past her, she says what are you doing? I said I am going to my seat she said well we were here first and I said what? she said you need to move and I said little girl who are you talking to, she said you and I said little girl please and kept moving so she turned in her seat and said you disrespected me and I said what? you are a child and she said I am not a child and I said yes you are, PLEASE, and she said I am not a child I am a a a a teenager and I said child and at that point she said you need to shut the fuck up and I said who are you talking you you need to shut the fuck up...and then I stopped realizing I am an adult in public in a theater full of teenagers that I know. My daughter and her friend walked up at that point and the child is still talking and the friend said mama is she talking to you? and I said yes and then immediately NO! but by then she had dropped her stuff and was running toward this girl calling her a hoe and not to talk like that to her mama. My daughter jumped over the seats but was grabbed by the usher who had also started yelling at this child. I ran to my daughter's friend and literally held her back from getting at this girl. management came and asked me some questions but no one got kicked out. So then we watched the movie and after all my kids came up to me about this girl. I told them all to stop and forget it because no more shit. BUT Damn I have NEVER wanted to slap a child so bad in my life. I haven't seen anyone go from calm to killer that fast in a long time either, it took everything I had to stop my daughter's friend from hurting that girl.

It's cool your kids were defending you.

PunkMistress said:

JustErin said:

I was responding more to what others were saying and I was talking about how I would feel if it was my kid. I was just being as honest as every one else here.

I hear you.

Violence is abhorrent to you and I respect that.

I don't feel the same way. Violence, to me, is a part of life and can't always be avoided. Generally it should be, but it has its place. Maybe I'm just Irish.

Don't blame the Irish for Southie!

maybe I'm just a lil' too "Grove Hall" ....

JustErin said:

paintedlady said:

You A TEEN?? NO!!! I refuse to believe it!!

Why are you even saying what you are then? Ya know teens can be knuckleheads!

You know, I was a handful as a teen...but I never once got into a physical altercation. I had chicks come at me, but somehow I was always able to talk my way out of anything happening.

I was a quiet asthmatic toothpick with an inhalor... all that was missing was a pocket protector, I was a bully magnet! I talked my way outta most fights, except for a few, and one was with a guy.

I learned how to run fast though.

FauxReal said:

kitbradley said:

Doesn't surprise me. this is what happens when teenagers have babies. Her mother is probably in her 20's and acts like a teenager herself. What else can you expect?

That's kind of unfair to say. There are many teen moms that actually raise decent children. I think it's more an issue of stupid people procreating at various ages.

Besidees that, how's a 20+ yr old having a teenage kid?

I agree. The very same thing happened to my friend at a theatre in a very upscale neighborhood while waiting in line for the matinee show. Two kids no more than 12 were standing behind us, cussing up a storm and when my friend glanced back at them, they cussed her out like a dog.

Sh!tty little brats exist regardless of the class/race/age of the parents. Most often because some people think that mess is cute when the child is small and they just laugh about it instead of correcting them. By the time the kid is older, they've already lost control of them.

paintedlady said:

PunkMistress said:

I hear you.

Violence is abhorrent to you and I respect that.

I don't feel the same way. Violence, to me, is a part of life and can't always be avoided. Generally it should be, but it has its place. Maybe I'm just Irish.

Don't blame the Irish for Southie!

maybe I'm just a lil' too "Grove Hall" ....

You know what...

I just think the girls responded without really thinking to their "mom" being verbally attacked by some little punk.

At 14, if some little punk-ass girl verbally assaulted my mom, I'm not so sure I would have been able to restrain myself.

For sure...it sounds to the whole thing was handled well. I can't say I blame the girls for reacting, but then again.. they could have been hurt so..

I just think they were defending their mom.

Once when I was at the supermarket with my mom, I was opening my trunk for her groceries while she brought her cart over to the car. Apparently, my 70 plus year old mom wasn't moving fast enough for the heffa behind her, who was about my age. She snapped at my mother, "could you get the f*ck out of my way!

Yes folks...I lost it.

I loaded mom and the groceries up and followed that skank to her car, pulled up behind her and told her that if she ever spoke to my mother like that again, or anybody else's for that matter, I would put my foot up her ass.

I've never done anything like that before and wouldn't do it again, but sometimes even us upstanding, well meaning adults have our moments.

babynoz said:

Once when I was at the supermarket with my mom, I was opening my trunk for her groceries while she brought her cart over to the car. Apparently, my 70 plus year old mom wasn't moving fast enough for the heffa behind her, who was about my age. She snapped at my mother, "could you get the f*ck out of my way!

Yes folks...I lost it.

I loaded mom and the groceries up and followed that skank to her car, pulled up behind her and told her that if she ever spoke to my mother like that again, or anybody else's for that matter, I would put my foot up her ass.

I've never done anything like that before and wouldn't do it again, but sometimes even us upstanding, well meaning adults have our moments.

I hit my mother's boyfriend over the head with a lamp and knocked him on his ass out cold because he was trying to suffocate my mom with a grapefruit half.

I was 32 at the time... my damn family...