missfee said:

SCNDLS said:

Because he wants to preserve his undefeated record and keep his face in tact cuz win or lose Pacquiao would fuck up his grille fa sho.

Hmm sounds like when Rocky didn't want to fight Clubber Lang.

SCNDLS said:

missfee said:

Hmm sounds like when Rocky didn't want to fight Clubber Lang.

I pity the fool...............

deadmansbones said:

Has Mayweather commented on Manny's destruction of Margarito? I read in a brief news clip, Margarito conceded Manny is a the best fighter in the world! I've heard that neither Manny nor Floyd necessarily wants to fight each other. They make more money feeding into the possibility of a fight more than actually fighting each other?? I don't know if that's true of not.

Naw, Manny wants that ass (figuratively) to shut down the debate over who's the best pound-for-pound fighter. I haven't heard if Money May has said anything tho. Silence from him is a welcome change.

SCNDLS said:

deadmansbones said:

Has Mayweather commented on Manny's destruction of Margarito? I read in a brief news clip, Margarito conceded Manny is a the best fighter in the world! I've heard that neither Manny nor Floyd necessarily wants to fight each other. They make more money feeding into the possibility of a fight more than actually fighting each other?? I don't know if that's true of not.

Naw, Manny wants that ass (figuratively) to shut down the debate over who's the best pound-for-pound fighter. I haven't heard if Money May has said anything tho. Silence from him is a welcome change.

Here's a quote from a recent interview with Garcia, Margarito's trainer:

Were you at all surprised at anything that Manny Pacquiao did?

I knew that Manny was the best fighter in the world, pound-for-pound. He truly is and I know that his speed, his power, his footwork, I wasn't surprised at all. I wanted to see the best Manny Pacquiao, and we saw it. The whole world saw it.

After this fight, Manny just totally proved to everybody that there is nobody who is near where he is at right now. We probably won't see another Manny Pacquiao ever again. I don't see anybody ever doing what Manny has done. I wasn't surprised.

What did surprise me was that he took some good punches from Tony. Not only is he so fast and so strong, but he can also take a punch. You know, whatever happened earlier in his career where he got knocked out, all of that has changed, and now, he not only hits hard and is so fast, but he can also take a punch.

He took Tony's best punch and he kept coming, and he punched smart and he moved around and boxed and didn't take chances. The few times that Tony got him on the ropes and threw some nice uppercuts he was there and took them and kept coming and coming.

Me, myself, our management and our entire team, we tried our best, and we're just proud to say that we were in there against the best fighter in the world.

http://www.boxing.fanhous...uiao-fight

[Edited 11/16/10 10:15am]

Classy! I really like Garcia.

SCNDLS said:

Classy! I really like Garcia.

From the same link, here's what Garcia said about stopping the fight:

What do you say to someone who believes that you should have stopped the fight?

I know and I'm sure that there are a lot of critics out there who are saying that the corner should have stopped the fight. But Tony is just a warrior and that's why we're in boxing. It's a one-on-one situation in the ring. Margarito has the heart you know where he wants to fight to the end.

That's what boxing is, it's fighting. You don't go in there if you get hurt and then you're like, 'Oh, f**k it, just quit, you know? People don't like that. The crowd doesn't like that. Nobody ever criticized the Arturo Gatti fights or his trainers.

When he was taking beatings and he would still keep coming. Nobody ever criticized, like, 'Oh, they should have stopped the fight.' Well, Arturo Gatti was the tremendous warrior where everybody loved him, even after he lost. Well, you know, nobody ever said that his corner should have stopped the fight.

Even after he took beatings and beatings. They knew that he had a big heart, and they knew that he could surprise the world at any moment. So, I have a fighter who has the same heart as those Arturo Gatti type of fighters. Tony would have never allowed me to stop the fight.

He's a big, strong man, so anything could have happened. So we couldn't do that that easily. I know that Tony wouldn't have allowed it. I've been in boxing for a long time, and I've been a boxer. I applauded what Joe Goossen did with Diego Corrales in his fight with Jose Luis Castillo.

When Corrales looked like he was out of it during the first fight that they had, and he pushed Corrales to continue and he ended up knocking Castillo out. Everybody gave credit to Joe Goossen for doing that.

missfee said:

SCNDLS said:

Because he wants to preserve his undefeated record and keep his face in tact cuz win or lose Pacquiao would fuck up his grille fa sho.

Hmm sounds like when Rocky didn't want to fight Clubber Lang.

Actually, it was Mickey who didn't want Rock to fight him

And Floyd Sr. doesn't want lil Floyd to fight Pacquiao

Even tho' he doesn't train him

I can't remember ever seeing a guy's face get so fucked up in the boxing ring...outside of Rocky's, of course

he may have lost but I am amazed that a guy could go the distance in that much pain, also that it was allowed to go the distance

funkpill said:

And Floyd Sr. doesn't want lil Floyd to fight Pacquiao

Even tho' he doesn't train him

from Boxingtalk.com

Bread I was in Vegas last week. I hear that Floyd Sr. is holding up the fight between May and Pac, is there any truth to that?

Bread's Response: I believe there is plenty of truth to that. I personally heard Big Floyd say to an internet writer that I don't want my son to fight that man. I believe he does not think it's a good fight for Floyd because of the southpaw stance and that Lil Floyd may not be able to keep up with Manny. I also know that Big Floyd believes that his son has slipped ever so slightly. I really think it's that simple. Big Floyd does not like the fight and Lil Floyd honors and respects his opinion. All of the other stuff is brought up to throw us off the scent. I respect Big Floyd. The reason being is that he really loves his son. Most would throw their kid in there for the money at hand. But Floyd knows what a loss would do to his son mentally and his love for him is priceless. I really respect that. I just don't like the attacks of Manny's character. Big Floyd does not have to assassinate Manny's character just because he thinks Manny can beat his son.

deadmansbones said:

He's fucking adorable I just wanna pick him up and carry him around in my pocket like a monchichi.

It's crazy how lil these dudes are yet the amount of power they pack in a punch. I saw Sugar Shane a few months ago at Roscoe's and I couldn't believe he barely reached my armpit and had THE most concave ass I've EVER seen on a man.

JerseyKRS said:

StarMon said:

Margarito was knocked out on his feet in the eleventh. Pacman let him make it, the last seconds of the round. He laid off big in the twelfth..

Will we ever see the Mayweather VS Pacquiao fight?

Nope.

Didn't Muthafunka bet you that the Mayweather would fight Pacquaio by 2010?

SCNDLS said:

deadmansbones said:

He's fucking adorable I just wanna pick him up and carry him around in my pocket like a monchichi.

It's crazy how lil these dudes are yet the amount of power they pack in a punch. I saw Sugar Shane a few months ago at Roscoe's and I couldn't believe he barely reached my armpit and had THE most concave ass I've EVER seen on a man.

I agree! He's too cute. It's difficult to imagine this little guy caused that kind of damage to Margarito!

Manny sings:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...bCskgWxVNI

Will Ferrell and Manny sing "Imagine":

http://www.youtube.com/wa...T4hHMIpnjU

Manny's such a cutie pie!

Shawnt27 said:

JerseyKRS said:

Nope.

Didn't Muthafunka bet you that the Mayweather would fight Pacquaio by 2010?

According to boxinginsider.com, it's a fight that will never happen......

HuMpThAnG said:

Shawnt27 said:

Didn't Muthafunka bet you that the Mayweather would fight Pacquaio by 2010?

According to boxinginsider.com, it's a fight that will never happen......

Oh yeah. If you follow the negotiations, it is obvious Mayweather doesn't want to fight Pacquaio. It is excuse after excuse after excuse. At first, I thought the negotiation break down was just part of the fight hype. Now, after Pacquaio agreed to the demands of Mayweather's camp, Mayweather decides to "go on vacation". He's running. He's running from a lot of money though.

Shawnt27 said:

HuMpThAnG said:

According to boxinginsider.com, it's a fight that will never happen......

Oh yeah. If you follow the negotiations, it is obvious Mayweather doesn't want to fight Pacquaio. It is excuse after excuse after excuse. At first, I thought the negotiation break down was just part of the fight hype. Now, after Pacquaio agreed to the demands of Mayweather's camp, Mayweather decides to "go on vacation". He's running. He's running from a lot of money though.

. . . and a whole lotta ass whuppin'

funkpill said:

missfee said:

funkpill said:

Actually, it was Mickey who didn't want Rock to fight him

True...but if you remember when Rocky was going to retire, he knew about Clubber Lang but never approached him to fight him. That was the whole point of Clubber coming to the statue ceremony to confront Rocky.

aaahhhh....

Shawnt27 said:

JerseyKRS said:

Nope.

Didn't Muthafunka bet you that the Mayweather would fight Pacquaio by 2010?

yes, yes he did!

Mayweather Jr. already has his legacy. Very, very good. But never fought Pacquio.

Didn't see the fight but damn Manny made a mess out of your boy!

Ooooooh, I can't STAND Floyd.

Mayweather Accused of Battering Security Guard

11/15/2010 6:44 PM PST by TMZ Staff

Cops rolled over to Floyd Mayweather's Las Vegas home tonight after a private security guard claimed the championship boxer poked him in the face during an incident in Floyd's gated community ... TMZ has learned.

Law enforcement sources tell us ... a private security guard who was patrolling inside Floyd's gated community drove up to Floyd's house a few hours ago to confront the boxer about a parking situation.

We're told the security guard rolled down his window to talk to Floyd ... and that's when Floyd allegedly unleashed his finger -- striking the dude in the face.

Cops were called to the scene and knocked on Floyd's door -- but we're told the boxer refused to open up.

We're told since Floyd was only suspected of a misdemeanor battery -- and because the alleged incident didn't take place in front of a police officer -- cops merely took a report and did not make an arrest.

Law enforcement sources tell us cops plan to turn the case over to the D.A., who will decide whether or not to press charges.

Antonio Margarito has been haunted by a hand-wrapping scandal for more than a year. A video in which he appeared to make fun of a trainer with Parkinson's disease didn't earn the former welterweight champion many friends, either. His gutsy performance in a loss to Manny Pacquiao earned him at least one.

Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones called Margarito on Wednesday and praised him for his performance inside his opulent stadium on Saturday night, even though the one-sided loss left Margarito with a broken orbital bone that required surgery this week.

Promoter Top Rank said in a statement that Jones contacted Margarito shortly after he was released from Methodist Hospital in Dallas, calling him "a great warrior" and telling Margarito that he has "a friend for life."

Margarito had been hospitalized since shortly after the fight, which left him with several deep cuts and massive bruising to his face. He had surgery Tuesday to repair the fractured orbital bone and was headed back to Los Angeles with his wife Michelle, trainer Robert Garcia and managers Francisco Espinoza and Sergio Diaz when he got the call from Jones. "Jerry told us to 'call me any time' when we are in the Dallas area," Diaz said.

Margarito was fighting in the U.S. for the first time since January 2009, when he was found to have a plaster-like substance in his hand wraps before a loss to Shane Mosley. The incident caused many fans to sour on Margarito, who previously had an impeccable reputation, and many criticized Top Rank's decision to give him a fight with Pacquiao.

Even though he lost, Margarito was guaranteed at least $3 million, and that total could reach $6 million once the pay-per-view numbers are tabulated this week. Then in the days before the fight, a video was released in which Margarito appears to make fun of Pacquiao trainer Freddie Roach, who has Parkinson's disease, by holding up a shaking hand. Margarito apologized for the video and said he was trying to convey that Roach and Pacquiao were shaking because they were afraid to face him in the ring.

Margarito skipped the traditional post-fight press conference Saturday night at the urging of doctors so he could be treated at the hospital, but later issued a statement in which he congratulated Pacquiao on winning a title in a record-extending eighth weight division.

"I gave it all I had, but unfortunately I was not able to get the victory over the best fighter in the world," Margarito said. "As I said before the fight, I was never going to quit and tried to win this fight to the very last minute."

The doctors who performed surgery to repair Margarito's fractured orbital bone said there were no complications and there would be no lingering effects with his right eye. Still, it will be at least a couple months before Margarito is able to get back to work. After that, Margarito and his team will decide whether he will fight again. "Antonio is such a warrior. The first thing he asked was, 'When can I start running?' And we told him he has to relax for a while," Diaz said. "For sure, at least 60 days of no contact of any kind in a gym."

missfee said:

funkpill said:

Actually, it was Mickey who didn't want Rock to fight him

True...but if you remember when Rocky was going to retire, he knew about Clubber Lang but never approached him to fight him. That was the whole point of Clubber coming to the statue ceremony to confront Rocky.

Now don't get it twisted. In Rocky III, it was Mickey that didn't want Clubber to have his title shot against Rocky. Mickey was the one that was setting up ALL of Rocky's title defenses against weaker opponents (without Rocky knowing about it!) because he didn't want to see Rocky take too many hard hits to the head, which was something that Clubber was damn good as giving.

In a sad twist of irony, Rocky would still suffer long-term effect on his health at the end of Rocky IV & throughout Rocky V because of too many hits to the head by Ivan Drago.

I've been out of the boxing circle for a while. (left it for MMA a few years ago ) Who are the stars now?

from boxinginsider.com

Manny Pacquiao Destroys Margarito AND Mayweather In Dallas
Published by Scoop Malinowski on November 14th, 2010

Manny Pacquiao awed the world again with his beauty, grace and honor.

Another big, strong, determined challenger came to knock his block off but the little man, Manny Pacquiao, outweighed by almost 20 pounds, dominated and slayed the giant Antonio Margarito by decisive unanimous decision.

Margarito started the fight by jabbing and boxing intelligently, wisely utilizing his physical advantages, but there is not a fighter on earth who can outsmart Manny Pacquiao in the boxing ring.

Manny Pacquiao has certain qualities that no boxer in the history of the sport possesses. It is obvious he has speed, he has power, he has fearless courage. But there are other attributes of Manny Pacquiao which defy explanation.

How can a small man hit a giant with so many accurate combinations while not getting hit much in return?

How can a man love to fight so much, even against such bigger and stronger opponents, when so many easier opponents could have been selected?

How can a man so phenomenally talented remain so humble and normal in spirit and attitude?

Manny Pacquiao controlled every minute, every round of the fight with the gigantic warrior Margarito.

Margarito is as tough as they come in any sport. He told us he would never quit, no matter how much punishment he would have to endure, and he held true to his word.

Floyd Mayweather will not hold true to his word that he would knockout Pacquiao, as he lied in his homemade video.

Floyd Mayweather watched the performance of Manny Pacquiao last night in Las Vegas and in his own mind he tried to analyze how his abilities could measure against the skills of Manny Pacquiao.

Floyd Mayweather came to a very painful realiztion: he has absolutely no hope to survive 12 rounds against Manny Pacquiao ande would be brutally slaughtered and disfigured facially just like Margarito was last night. Floyd does not have the power to deter Pacquiao. He does not have the punch output to neutralize Pacquiao’s vicious relentless aggression. He does not have the intelligence to be able to outwit the greatest and smartest champion in the sport today. And Floyd does not have the courage or self confidence to test himself against the best of the best in a real fight, as opposed to a handpicked Al Haymon set-up for free HBO money.

As Manny Pacquiao’s punches bombarded and blasted and ultimately destroyed Margarito, they also pummeled and battered the psyche of Mayweather over and over and over.

Margarito was destroyed and irreparably damaged last night. But so was the confidence of Floyd Mayweather.

Floyd Mayweather will never find the courage to fight Manny Pacquiao and will forever stain his own legacy and name as a coward fraud who shamefully backed down from his biggest challenge – the one and only, living legend, once in a lifetime, historic boxing champion named Manny Pacquiao.

Manny Pacquiao not only stands tall as the most amazing champion sportsman in all of world athletics today but also as one of the shining, beaming lights of the graceful beauty of our humanity.

Scoop Malinowski is a BoxingInsider.com columnist and author of “Heavyweight Armageddon: The Tyson-Lewis Championship Battle.”

HuMpThAnG said:

from boxinginsider.com

Manny Pacquiao Destroys Margarito AND Mayweather In Dallas
Published by Scoop Malinowski on November 14th, 2010

Manny Pacquiao awed the world again with his beauty, grace and honor.

Another big, strong, determined challenger came to knock his block off but the little man, Manny Pacquiao, outweighed by almost 20 pounds, dominated and slayed the giant Antonio Margarito by decisive unanimous decision.

Margarito started the fight by jabbing and boxing intelligently, wisely utilizing his physical advantages, but there is not a fighter on earth who can outsmart Manny Pacquiao in the boxing ring.

Manny Pacquiao has certain qualities that no boxer in the history of the sport possesses. It is obvious he has speed, he has power, he has fearless courage. But there are other attributes of Manny Pacquiao which defy explanation.

How can a small man hit a giant with so many accurate combinations while not getting hit much in return?

How can a man love to fight so much, even against such bigger and stronger opponents, when so many easier opponents could have been selected?

How can a man so phenomenally talented remain so humble and normal in spirit and attitude?

Manny Pacquiao controlled every minute, every round of the fight with the gigantic warrior Margarito.

Margarito is as tough as they come in any sport. He told us he would never quit, no matter how much punishment he would have to endure, and he held true to his word.

Floyd Mayweather will not hold true to his word that he would knockout Pacquiao, as he lied in his homemade video.

Floyd Mayweather watched the performance of Manny Pacquiao last night in Las Vegas and in his own mind he tried to analyze how his abilities could measure against the skills of Manny Pacquiao.

Floyd Mayweather came to a very painful realiztion: he has absolutely no hope to survive 12 rounds against Manny Pacquiao ande would be brutally slaughtered and disfigured facially just like Margarito was last night. Floyd does not have the power to deter Pacquiao. He does not have the punch output to neutralize Pacquiao’s vicious relentless aggression. He does not have the intelligence to be able to outwit the greatest and smartest champion in the sport today. And Floyd does not have the courage or self confidence to test himself against the best of the best in a real fight, as opposed to a handpicked Al Haymon set-up for free HBO money.

As Manny Pacquiao’s punches bombarded and blasted and ultimately destroyed Margarito, they also pummeled and battered the psyche of Mayweather over and over and over.

Margarito was destroyed and irreparably damaged last night. But so was the confidence of Floyd Mayweather.

Floyd Mayweather will never find the courage to fight Manny Pacquiao and will forever stain his own legacy and name as a coward fraud who shamefully backed down from his biggest challenge – the one and only, living legend, once in a lifetime, historic boxing champion named Manny Pacquiao.

Manny Pacquiao not only stands tall as the most amazing champion sportsman in all of world athletics today but also as one of the shining, beaming lights of the graceful beauty of our humanity.

Scoop Malinowski is a BoxingInsider.com columnist and author of “Heavyweight Armageddon: The Tyson-Lewis Championship Battle.”

I'm a Manny fan but that statement I highlighted is so wrong, Scoop is obviously a Floyd hater.

I get that many don't care for Floyd's personality outside the ring, but in the ring he's ALWAYS the smarter fighter, he forces his opponents to fight his fight and I don't think Manny would be any different.

In fact I actually think Manny's fight game is tailor made for Floyd, who prefers his opponent to come forward so he can counter-punch his every move. This fight if it ever happens will look alot like Manny's fights with Juan Manuel Marquez, who like Floyd is also a master at counter-punching

TonyVanDam said:

missfee said:

funkpill said: True...but if you remember when Rocky was going to retire, he knew about Clubber Lang but never approached him to fight him. That was the whole point of Clubber coming to the statue ceremony to confront Rocky.

Now don't get it twisted. In Rocky III, it was Mickey that didn't want Clubber to have his title shot against Rocky. Mickey was the one that was setting up ALL of Rocky's title defenses against weaker opponents (without Rocky knowing about it!) because he didn't want to see Rocky take too many hard hits to the head, which was something that Clubber was damn good as giving.

In a sad twist of irony, Rocky would still suffer long-term effect on his health at the end of Rocky IV & throughout Rocky V because of too many hits to the head by Ivan Drago.

Yes Tony honey I do know the Rocky movies quite well and while you are correct in that Mickey didn't want Rocky to fight Clubber and was setting up the weak opponents for him to fight after he became the champ, that still doesn't mean (or prove) that Rocky knew absolutely nothing about Clubber. Just sayin'

i watchd the fight - it was amazing! Pac is just an incredible boxer. i soooo wanna see him stuff up Mayweather. It's gotta happen!