I am not one to to speak against books that I haven't at least perused at length, so in fairness and discrenment I'll need to read it to determine whether he's full of it or not.

The content from the last book, however, was not offensive at all and has some common sense points. Meh. I even gave one to a friend who I thought could benefit from it. I see the book as written by someone who went through decades as a knucklehead, eventually saw the error of his ways and of those around him, and is trying to do something better for himself and his current relationship and to share his testimony in what he learned the hard way about love and relationships. Where is the harm in that? I have yet to meet a person who hasn't fucked up big time in one aspect or another in their life, so I'm not going to judge him for past wrongs in his relationships when it appears he wants to do better and be better now, and move forward. It often tickles me how unforgiving we humans are against one one another, if Harvey has somehow found redemptive Grace in his life then so be it, and I would be the last to wish him ill as he tries to figure out his imperfect journey to get himself right and perhaps share a little bit of what he's learned with others along the way.

If I were to choose what are really controversial books out there regarding relationships,there are a host of them from the 80's ( 90's, and 00's ) that spewed so much garbage, it would seem that they would warrant some of the righteous indignation we're witnessing here for Harvey, which, his running themes seem to go along the lines of: comparing your long term and short term goals together; examining a man's relationship with his mother and friends; what matters most to him where he is now in behavioral traits and character; his views on family, children and the making and saving of financial funds. Seems like good stuff to pass along, one would think. However,in regards to other books that are really out there and give me great pause as to how or why they were published, some off the cuff ones that immediately come to mind:

Y'all remember this?

Uuum, girl, please go sit your vixen-trick-a-man-to-trap-him ass down somewhere. This instructional manual from the woman who gave the opinion on TV One that Elin Woods should shut her mouth and take Tiger back because with 2 small children she would have nowhere to go."Stay there, Elin. Where are you gonna go? What are you gonna do? Don't be stupid"

Spoken like a true non-expectation having, low self-esteemed female...which I find to be much more harmful than anything Harvey has said thus far in his writings.

SHOCKADELICA1 said:

Damn. Well, I guess I'm in the minority because I like Steve Harvey and think he's hilarious

I did read his first book and thought it was pretty good, but I took it with a grain of salt and considered the source, because I also don't take advice from folks that can't keep a man or woman. Which is why I won't be reading this new book.

Fuck "understanding" a man. I gave up on that shit a long time ago.

I liked Steve too back in the day. Just think his time as a comic is up.

He's been stale for a minute now imo.

SCNDLS said:

Graycap23 said:

I'm amazed that folks are talking advice from SH.

Unreal.

Especially since he cheated on the ex-wife and is cheating on this one. Really, Steve STFU and go pick out another tacky suit with matching gators and sit yo ignant ass down.

Really? All that he be doing on his show about how he loves his wife and would never cheat is bunk? Well, do tell! Ain't not biggie. Hell, they ALL cheat at one time or another.

Ottensen said:

Y'all remember this?

Uuum, girl, please go sit your vixen-trick-a-man-to-trap-him ass down somewhere. This instructional manual from the woman who gave the opinion on TV One that Elin Woods should shut her mouth and take Tiger back because with 2 small children she would have nowhere to go."Stay there, Elin. Where are you gonna go? What are you gonna do? Don't be stupid"

Spoken like a true non-expectation having, low self-esteemed female...which I find to be much more harmful than anything Harvey has said thus far in his writings.

thekidsgirl said:

DesireeNevermind said:

I really could give a fuck about that one. Shit if you own momma don't understand yer ass how the fuck am I suppose to?

I'm too easily bored and irritate to bother with all that "find, keep , understand" bullshit. Most of these mofos got emotional baggage left over from when they realized they weren't gonna be ballers, rappers, movie stars, lotto winners, pimps and what not. Tis a damn shame when a man can't appreciate the simple things in life and gotta get all Zeus like in the head.

Anyway...back to pussy lip Steve Harvey.

I really get tired of all these writers, and psychologists and whatnot always informing black women about what they are doing wrong, and how they can better please a man.

I wish someone put that much effort into trying to "find, keep and understand" me.

:stepsoffsoapbox:

bboy87 said:

SCNDLS said:

I've been looking for a reason to post video Kat Williams goin' in on ol' Lace Front Steve. No time like the present.

My personal favorite moments:

How the fuck you gon' be the Original King of Comedy, nigga, did it start with you??? You disrespectful son of a bitch? Not Richard Pryor, not Bill Cosby, Steve Harvey is The Original King of Comedy??? You's a gatdamn lie!!!

Did you think that nigga wanted to be here with me THIS evenin'??? No he did not. He wanted to be with Frankie Beverly and Maze!

SMH @ at an expert of coonery calling out another expert of coonery

True, but I gave him a pass for talking shit about SH. Besides, he owns his crazy unlike Steve who really thinks he's better and smarter than his audience.

SCNDLS said:

bboy87 said:

SMH @ at an expert of coonery calling out another expert of coonery

True, but I gave him a pass for talking shit about SH. Besides, he owns his crazy unlike Steve who really thinks he's better and smarter than his audience.

Is Katt truly dealing with his mental "craziness" now? Is that why we haven't heard anything about him this year?

missfee said:

SCNDLS said:

True, but I gave him a pass for talking shit about SH. Besides, he owns his crazy unlike Steve who really thinks he's better and smarter than his audience.

Is Katt truly dealing with his mental "craziness" now? Is that why we haven't heard anything about him this year?

I said "owning" not dealing with. But I'm not sure, I wanna say I heard somewhere he was seeking counseling.

SCNDLS said:

missfee said:

Is Katt truly dealing with his mental "craziness" now? Is that why we haven't heard anything about him this year?

I said "owning" not dealing with. But I'm not sure, I wanna say I heard somewhere he was seeking counseling.

Dude was smiling for his mugshot like it was a first grade school photo

bboy87 said:

SCNDLS said:

I said "owning" not dealing with. But I'm not sure, I wanna say I heard somewhere he was seeking counseling.

Dude was smiling for his mugshot like it was a first grade school photo

Ain't that what you posed to do???

SCNDLS said:

missfee said:

Is Katt truly dealing with his mental "craziness" now? Is that why we haven't heard anything about him this year?

I said "owning" not dealing with. But I'm not sure, I wanna say I heard somewhere he was seeking counseling.

Yeah I know you said owning as opposed to "dealing" ...I'm just hoping that he is dealing with his personal demons.

SCNDLS said:

bboy87 said:

Dude was smiling for his mugshot like it was a first grade school photo

Ain't that what you posed to do???

Everyday I'm hustlin'

Everyday I'm hustlin'

Hustlin' Hustlin'

Hu-Hu-Hu- Hustlin'

THIS SHIT RIGHT HEREEEE!!!!

[Edited 9/22/10 9:23am]

Katt and Steve are both coons, they just pander to different audiences, that's all. Same ol shit, different hair. Steve got a lacefront, Katt got a relaxer. Womp womp.

jaybendy said:

Katt and Steve are both coons, they just pander to different audiences, that's all. Same ol shit, different hair. Steve got a lacefront, Katt got a relaxer. Womp womp.

:FALLINONTHEDAMNFLOORHARD:

DesireeNevermind said:

he needs to write a book for young men on how to get an education, get a job and keep your ass out of jail and out of family court. that's what stevey boy needs to do alright. fake ass advice columnist.

What a great suggestion. Many people in my city alone could use good advice such as this.

My friend works with a guy who is single, but has fathered 8 children from 5 different women. He doesn't see all the kids and doesn't make much money either. It infuriates me.

'Steve Harvey's Guideline On "How to find, keep and understand a man"'

how about just borrowing a man for a while and then giving him back?? is there a chapter on that?

jaybendy said:

Katt and Steve are both coons, they just pander to different audiences, that's all. Same ol shit, different hair. Steve got a lacefront, Katt got a relaxer. Womp womp.

They're comedians so I'm not as bothered by it. They're supposed to make a fool of themselves. The BIG difference IMO is that Katt is staying in his lane while Steve is actually positioning himself as a credible relationship and advice expert when his backyard is quite shitty. Matter of fact, Katt gives women better advice:

How you gon' let some other motherfucker take your self-esteem??? Self-esteem is esteem-of-yo-muthafuckin'-sef!!!

[Edited 9/22/10 9:39am]

SCNDLS said:

jaybendy said:

Katt and Steve are both coons, they just pander to different audiences, that's all. Same ol shit, different hair. Steve got a lacefront, Katt got a relaxer. Womp womp.

They're comedians so I'm not as bothered by it. They're supposed to make a fool of themselves. The BIG difference IMO is that Katt is staying in his lane while Steve is actually positioning himself as a credible relationship and advice expert when his backyard is quite shitty. Matter of fact, Katt gives women better advice:

How you gon' let some other motherfucker take your self-esteem??? Self-esteem is esteem-of-yo-muthafuckin'-sef!!!

[Edited 9/22/10 9:39am]

Empress said:

DesireeNevermind said:

he needs to write a book for young men on how to get an education, get a job and keep your ass out of jail and out of family court. that's what stevey boy needs to do alright. fake ass advice columnist.

What a great suggestion. Many people in my city alone could use good advice such as this.

My friend works with a guy who is single, but has fathered 8 children from 5 different women. He doesn't see all the kids and doesn't make much money either. It infuriates me.

you would think though, that by the 3rd woman...ole dude would want to bag his stuff up.

Ohhh but best believe Mistah Harvey would probably put the blame solely on the women.

Ottensen said:

Y'all remember this?

Unfortunately, I do. The In Living Color parody kit was a mess...

I'll take Katt over Steve & his 33 front buck teeth anytime,,,,he does have his share of coonery and buffoonery but the man has a crazy sense of humor, and seems like willing to develop his routine as opposed to the latter.

King of comedy He & R.Kelly should book a one-way-flight to delusionville with their title hogging asses.

Harlepolis said:

I'll take Katt over Steve & his 33 front buck teeth anytime,,,,he does have his share of coonery and buffoonery but the man has a crazy sense of humor, and seems like willing to develop his routine as opposed to the latter.

King of comedy He & R.Kelly should book a one-way-flight to delusionville with their title hogging asses.

fuck both them lames, give me my boy Paul Mooney any day

Katt and Steve, along with DL Hughley do the same routines for every show

bboy87 said:

Harlepolis said:

I'll take Katt over Steve & his 33 front buck teeth anytime,,,,he does have his share of coonery and buffoonery but the man has a crazy sense of humor, and seems like willing to develop his routine as opposed to the latter.

King of comedy He & R.Kelly should book a one-way-flight to delusionville with their title hogging asses.

fuck both them lames, give me my boy Paul Mooney any day

Katt and Steve, along with DL Hughley do the same routines for every show

DL's pretty damn funny though.

phunkdaddy said:

bboy87 said:

fuck both them lames, give me my boy Paul Mooney any day

Katt and Steve, along with DL Hughley do the same routines for every show

DL's pretty damn funny though.

yeah he is, especially when he's clowning the audience members

but that's why it's so frustrating when he recycles his routine for the past 10 years. I've seen at least 5 stand up performances of DL's where he does the same exact jokes....the same exact way

From the Kings of Comedy movie, Cedric and Bernie were the funniest

him down stairrrrrrrrrrrssss

bboy87 said:

Harlepolis said:

I'll take Katt over Steve & his 33 front buck teeth anytime,,,,he does have his share of coonery and buffoonery but the man has a crazy sense of humor, and seems like willing to develop his routine as opposed to the latter.

King of comedy He & R.Kelly should book a one-way-flight to delusionville with their title hogging asses.

fuck both them lames, give me my boy Paul Mooney any day

Katt and Steve, along with DL Hughley do the same routines for every show

I saw Paul a few months ago and the entire set was on stuff that had been in the news a couple of weeks prior 2 the show. I've rarely seen a comic do an entire new set. it was GREAT.

Graycap23 said:

bboy87 said:

fuck both them lames, give me my boy Paul Mooney any day

Katt and Steve, along with DL Hughley do the same routines for every show

I saw Paul a few months ago and the entire set was on stuff that had been in the news a couple of weeks prior 2 the show. I've rarely seen a comic do an entire new set. it was GREAT.

Every set Paul Mooney does is great.

When I saw Steve on Dr. Phil's show recently, giving laughable relationship advice to several different spotlighted women in the audience, I knew then Steve is just doing this to be funny and get paid. It's a big joke, which is not surprising considering his occupation. I imagine him backstage or at home laughing at everyone buying/reading this garbage.

bboy87 said:

phunkdaddy said:

DL's pretty damn funny though.

yeah he is, especially when he's clowning the audience members

but that's why it's so frustrating when he recycles his routine for the past 10 years. I've seen at least 5 stand up performances of DL's where he does the same exact jokes....the same exact way

From the Kings of Comedy movie, Cedric and Bernie were the funniest

him down stairrrrrrrrrrrssss

You're mentioning Paul Mooney now?

Thats like mentioning Stevie Wonder in a round-up between Aaron Hall & Roberta Kelly.

XxAxX said:

'Steve Harvey's Guideline On "How to find, keep and understand a man"'

how about just borrowing a man for a while and then giving him back?? is there a chapter on that?