Can I be Honest......PLEASE DON'T GIVE THEM IDEA'S FOR A NEW TRANSFORMERS MOVIE....They suck massive horse cock!!

But I like your twist on the dark night

andykeen said:

andykeen said:

I like the idea of the terrorists and WMD. What I enjoyed about the first movie was how they incorporated history into the storyline and altered it a bit. It's already a stretch to believe in these machines, so you have to keep a good deal of "reality" intertwined. I think they did good w/ that the first time around. We'll see how it goes, though for part 3.

Transformers 3 plot details are already over the net and have been for some time.

I wrote a short script called Random Heroics a few years ago and submitted it to a screenplay contest in Vancouver. It didn't win the number 1 prize but it was shortlisted so I was happy with that.

Then a few years later I go to a pre-screening of a new movie called Defendor with Woody Harrelson. As I watch it I can't help but think to myself that the whole idea and the plot are very very similar to Random Heroics, so much so that I felt I had to look up who made it. It turns out the screenwriter/director is not only Canadian, he's from Vancouver AND he has collaborated several times with the woman who was responsible for reading the screenplays at the contest I sent my script to!

I still don't know if they stole my idea or if it was just an amazing coincidence...

retina said:

Number23 said:

retina said:

I wrote a short script called Random Heroics a few years ago and submitted it to a screenplay contest in Vancouver. It didn't win the number 1 prize but it was shortlisted so I was happy with that.

Then a few years later I go to a pre-screening of a new movie called Defendor with Woody Harrelson. As I watch it I can't help but think to myself that the whole idea and the plot are very very similar to Random Heroics, so much so that I felt I had to look up who made it. It turns out the screenwriter/director is not only Canadian, he's from Vancouver AND he has collaborated several times with the woman who was responsible for reading the screenplays at the contest I sent my script to!

I still don't know if they stole my idea or if it was just an amazing coincidence...

Reading all that, I'd say it's a fairly safe assumption they stole your idea.

Thanks for thinking that I'm probably not just crazy and paranoid. And I do think you're right. They were probably looking for something for their next project and running that contest made new ideas flow their way. They could just pick and choose among the entries and my short script tickled their fancy.

The problem is that there's no way for me to prove it. I don't have a post-stamped envelope that shows I sent her anything, there's no longer any online record of the contest even happening etc. And while the similarities between their script and mine are great in number, it would probably take a lot more than that for a court conviction (and that's assuming I would want to spend the thousands of dollars to take cash-strapped indie movie producers to court in the first place!). Enforcing copyrights is almost impossible, especially in today's pirate society.

I'll probably keep sending out scripts to producers and contests anyway and take my chances when it comes to theft. It's too bad but it seems like taking big risks in that department is the only way I can get a chance for a proper breakthrough one day.

Actually, I heard about it the script months ago at AICN. Then I saw some "character" design pictures. Then I saw some bts set pictures. And all the while it didn't matter because the third one will be just as big a piece of shit as the first two.

JustErin said:

Ÿou've got to add BOOM and BANG to every plot of Transformers (it's Bay, remember?).

zaza said:

retina said:

Number23 said:

retina said:

Thanks for thinking that I'm probably not just crazy and paranoid. And I do think you're right. They were probably looking for something for their next project and running that contest made new ideas flow their way. They could just pick and choose among the entries and my short script tickled their fancy.

The problem is that there's no way for me to prove it. I don't have a post-stamped envelope that shows I sent her anything, there's no longer any online record of the contest even happening etc. And while the similarities between their script and mine are great in number, it would probably take a lot more than that for a court conviction (and that's assuming I would want to spend the thousands of dollars to take cash-strapped indie movie producers to court in the first place!). Enforcing copyrights is almost impossible, especially in today's pirate society.

I'll probably keep sending out scripts to producers and contests anyway and take my chances when it comes to theft. It's too bad but it seems like taking big risks in that department is the only way I can get a chance for a proper breakthrough one day.

DIY. I'll fly over and play the lead, sing the theme tune and sex up the overly pretentious bits of scriptwriting with Scottish-accented swearing the critics will cite as grittily indicative of a society eating its own legs. You can keep the money, gold corrodes the soul. Make yourself pretty. No-one will know you lost your prime. The future has been here forever. It will be like we actually existed!

Oh I've shot several of my scripts. One was even in English so I could have shown it to you guys if I'd known how to put up something that's over 10 min long on YouTube.

It's fun to do the whole production yourself but I find it harder and harder to put together a team that will work for free. People are so busy these days. Plus I would prefer to work with a proper budget and real professionals for once. The biggest production I was ever responsible for did involve pro actors and we shot on 16 mm but after pre and post production was budgeted in there was barely even enough money left for props, and many of the crew members were amateurs.

Don't worry about pretentiousness. My short scripts are pretty straight-forward (they have to be if you want to tell a story in a small amount of time!). As for trying to make myself pretty, there's no need. I'm definitely not going to place my balding self in front of the camera anyway, lol.

here's a good plot for transformers 3..focus on the transformers and leave the human element in the background ..more fight scenes with AB's and D's less shia lebouf and everyone else cause seriously, do people go see the movies to watch the human element?

take it back 2 the days of cybertron!!

but then again it will be fun 2 see the start of a scene start in the afternoon and in 3 shots later it's NIGHTTIME ..gotta love michael bay 4 that

L4OATheOriginal said:

Hey, I work downtown Detroit and they blocked off the street 1 block down for some filming and had a line of people at a trailer. (maybe some extra's). I didn't get out to see anything but it looks like it was a 1 day show in our area.

retina said:

Number23 said:

retina said:

Oh I've shot several of my scripts. One was even in English so I could have shown it to you guys if I'd known how to put up something that's over 10 min long on YouTube.

It's fun to do the whole production yourself but I find it harder and harder to put together a team that will work for free. People are so busy these days. Plus I would prefer to work with a proper budget and real professionals for once. The biggest production I was ever responsible for did involve pro actors and we shot on 16 mm but after pre and post production was budgeted in there was barely even enough money left for props, and many of the crew members were amateurs.

Don't worry about pretentiousness. My short scripts are pretty straight-forward (they have to be if you want to tell a story in a small amount of time!). As for trying to make myself pretty, there's no need. I'm definitely not going to place my balding self in front of the camera anyway, lol.

Maybe a self-aggrandising, shamelessly ego-led project masqurading as indie gonzo journalism a la Fast Food Nation - but on baldness, life's ultimate unspoken and highly-senstive, unspoken taboo. Except for incest. Fly the world taking to famous baldies. Interview your now middle-aged school pals and compare old pictures with their struggling hair now. laugh. Cry. Rediscover the optimistic, idealistic child you're really mourning. Enjoy a voyage of self- and take to the stage as all our selfs - by exorcising the demons of your past and sharing joyous rediscovery of self-love and optimism with a weeping, inspired audience. I smell a hit. I'll still sing the theme tune, if you want. No fee.

I'm guessing you're looking forward to I'm Still Here, the Joaquin Phoenix mockumentary. It seems to be a shamelessly ego-led project masqurading as indie gonzo journalism where he's exorcising the demons of his past and sharing joyous rediscovery of self-love and optimism with a weeping, inspired audience. So your pitch is pretty dead on actually. Except for the baldness thing.

I wouldn't mind making a fearless documentary one day but I'd stay out of it myself. I'd probably even cut out the questions and just include the answers so it flows like a monologue coming from the subjects. And then mix that with lots of fly-on-the-wall passive filming of events as they happen. That style has been done before but I usually like it a lot. The only time the opposite - where the filmmaker features a lot - has worked was in Grizzly Man. Herzog vs Treadwell was sure a memorable encounter.

retina said:

Number23 said:

retina said:

I'm guessing you're looking forward to I'm Still Here, the Joaquin Phoenix mockumentary. It seems to be a shamelessly ego-led project masqurading as indie gonzo journalism where he's exorcising the demons of his past and sharing joyous rediscovery of self-love and optimism with a weeping, inspired audience. So your pitch is pretty dead on actually. Except for the baldness thing.

I wouldn't mind making a fearless documentary one day but I'd stay out of it myself. I'd probably even cut out the questions and just include the answers so it flows like a monologue coming from the subjects. And then mix that with lots of fly-on-the-wall passive filming of events as they happen. That style has been done before but I usually like it a lot. The only time the opposite - where the filmmaker features a lot - has worked was in Grizzly Man. Herzog vs Treadwell was sure a memorable encounter.

I don't fancy I'm Still Here at all. Never even heard of Grizzy Man! Too knowingly cerebral and ball-achingly worthy. I just like films with big robots with strict moral compasses knocking fuck out of one another. I could write a book marking the progression of the 'clang' sound over 60 years of cinema. Did you know they used to do it with a baseball and a saucepan? Clang! Clang! Clang!

I don't think Grizzly Man will make your balls ache. Give it a chance. It's one of the best documentaries I've ever seen.

As for making sound effects I did a lot of that when I used to have a radio show. Especially when I wrote and produced a radio play for which we did every single sound effect ourselves. Sometimes you can fake it like you described but other times you just have to record the real thing. For example we couldn't find a single way of making it sound like a body being thrown to the ground except if we actually threw our bodies to the ground. Breaking of a wooden board left us with few other options too. At least that one didn't hurt...

purpledoveuk said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

here's a good plot for transformers 3..focus on the transformers and leave the human element in the background ..more fight scenes with AB's and D's less shia lebouf and everyone else cause seriously, do people go see the movies to watch the human element?

take it back 2 the days of cybertron!!

but then again it will be fun 2 see the start of a scene start in the afternoon and in 3 shots later it's NIGHTTIME ..gotta love michael bay 4 that

Helicopter scene by any chance?

hell even the 1st one with the attack of the military base ..one shot it's in the day time then someone gets off the phone and the fight conintues into what looks like after midnight

L4OATheOriginal said:

why you gotta add a plot when they didn't have one in the first two? I swear, folk just want to confuse other folk and whatnot, switching up shit and all.....

purpledoveuk said:

The continuity in this films is terrible...they skipped the whole Megan Fox masturbating scene...or was that just my script?

didn't they save that for Jennifer's body?

L4OATheOriginal said: