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Thread started 08/04/10 2:48pm

Gunsnhalen

Prop 8 Overturned In California!

This is FANTASTIC news

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Reply #1 posted 08/04/10 2:49pm

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Gunsnhalen said:

This is FANTASTIC news

oh wow omg this is so amazing

i am so happy

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Reply #2 posted 08/04/10 2:51pm

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Reply #3 posted 08/04/10 3:00pm

Gunsnhalen

IK this is a big day i am incredibly happy and excited!

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Reply #4 posted 08/04/10 3:01pm

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Well, there's my excuse to cocktail tonight! woot!

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Reply #5 posted 08/04/10 3:14pm

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That's awesome! But unfortunately you can bet that this won't be the end of it. The right wing mafia will appeal and fight it tooth and nail.

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Reply #6 posted 08/04/10 3:19pm

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CA probably do anything for extra funds right now.....

They needed to worry more about that and less on people's personal lives.

weed Legalize it and everything seems so much better, don't it.

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Reply #7 posted 08/04/10 3:33pm

Gunsnhalen

johnart said:

Well, there's my excuse to cocktail tonight! woot!

Do it my friend party!

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Reply #8 posted 08/04/10 3:34pm

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retina said:

That's awesome! But unfortunately you can bet that this won't be the end of it. The right wing mafia will appeal and fight it tooth and nail.

Ugh true but here's to hoping it won't go under anymore B.S again

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Reply #9 posted 08/04/10 4:08pm

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S'great!

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Reply #10 posted 08/04/10 4:48pm

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retina said:

That's awesome! But unfortunately you can bet that this won't be the end of it. The right wing mafia will appeal and fight it tooth and nail.

4 reals. The opposition is mobilizing as we speak, I'm sure. But 4 2night, I'll celebrate this good news. cool

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Reply #11 posted 08/04/10 7:58pm

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johnart said:

Well, there's my excuse to cocktail tonight! woot!

Have you ever needed an excuse? lol

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Reply #12 posted 08/04/10 9:21pm

Reel

Let's see how this thing pans out, an appeal is reportedly in the works. San Francisco mayor Gavin legalized Gay marriages back in I think '04', and since then the issue of the legalization Gay marriages have flip-flopped so much that my head is spinning. Legal, then not legal. Legal again...then not legal....Legal...then Prop 8. Out of all the states to legalize gay marriages, one would think that California would have been at the forefront.

Although I'm your biggest fan...I'm also your biggest critic. Can you deal with that?
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Reply #13 posted 08/04/10 9:40pm

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bboy87 said:

johnart said:

Well, there's my excuse to cocktail tonight! woot!

Have you ever needed an excuse? lol

lol I know right? I was gonna say "What are your excuses for every other day of the week?"

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Reply #14 posted 08/04/10 11:43pm

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self-censored bad taste response edit. lol

[Edited 8/4/10 23:47pm]

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Reply #15 posted 08/04/10 11:44pm

TheVoid

I think this will be a good day. nod

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Reply #16 posted 08/05/10 3:46am

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you can marry anyone (excepting immediate family I'm guessing) even in Argentina these days!!

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Reply #17 posted 08/05/10 5:36am

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a giant step forward for loooovvve biggrin

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Reply #18 posted 08/05/10 7:04am

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I am actually HAPPY this isn't the last of it, because this means it will move up the ladder until it gets to the Supreme Court. And if we win in the Supreme Court, it is no longer just a California thing, but a NATIONWIDE thing.

I feel this is the first REAL step to gaining marriage equality in this nation.

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Reply #19 posted 08/05/10 8:34am

ernestsewell

Let me share something with some of the people here, reading or posting or otherwise - when people's personal lives are stunted by the government they are forced to financially support, someone needs to worry about it.

Most folks can walk outside and never know what it feels like to look around and know you don't have the same civil rights and freedoms as your peers, co-workers, friends, and family.

Gay people don't know that freedom. I'm not sorry to say my freedom, as a gay man, isn't really free. California, Judge Walker, or whoever needs to constantly worry about it, and even moreso DO something about it until we truly are equal. How complacent we've become in forgetting that only 60 some odd years ago black folks couldn't even vote in this country, couldn't sit at a lunch counter, had to use a different fucking water fountain, and were called the N word as easily as we use the word "love".

Now, it's the gay's turn to

1) not be able to marry,

2) not be able to donate blood (it's really that "not even if you were the last person on earth" mentality with that),

3) not be able to get partner health benefits with the majority of employers,

4) still walk down the street and have people scoff, fake-hurl, point, laugh, or even be killed.

So yeah, someone needs to "worry" about it.

As the judge said, "Moral disapproval alone is an improper basis on which to deny rights to gay men and lesbians". They're not trying to create a new right, but rather ensure that everyone is invited to share in the same right as anyone else.

I'm quite happy over yesterday's decision, but I also know it's not necessarily the end of it all. I'm still furious over Target and Best Buy's two-faced behavior - I'm ready for some equality this week. Although I live in NY state, I'm glad the wave of equality is slowly but surely washing across this country.

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Reply #20 posted 08/05/10 8:46am

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ernestsewell said:

Most straight caucasian male folks can walk outside and never know what it feels like to look around and know you don't have the same civil rights and freedoms as your peers, co-workers, friends, and family.

the rest of us do know...or should know.... hmmm

those people are the ones that bother me the most.....

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Reply #21 posted 08/05/10 12:01pm

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ernestsewell said:

Let me share something with some of the people here, reading or posting or otherwise - when people's personal lives are stunted by the government they are forced to financially support, someone needs to worry about it.

Most folks can walk outside and never know what it feels like to look around and know you don't have the same civil rights and freedoms as your peers, co-workers, friends, and family.

Gay people don't know that freedom. I'm not sorry to say my freedom, as a gay man, isn't really free. California, Judge Walker, or whoever needs to constantly worry about it, and even moreso DO something about it until we truly are equal. How complacent we've become in forgetting that only 60 some odd years ago black folks couldn't even vote in this country, couldn't sit at a lunch counter, had to use a different fucking water fountain, and were called the N word as easily as we use the word "love".

Now, it's the gay's turn to

1) not be able to marry,

2) not be able to donate blood (it's really that "not even if you were the last person on earth" mentality with that),

3) not be able to get partner health benefits with the majority of employers,

4) still walk down the street and have people scoff, fake-hurl, point, laugh, or even be killed.

So yeah, someone needs to "worry" about it.

As the judge said, "Moral disapproval alone is an improper basis on which to deny rights to gay men and lesbians". They're not trying to create a new right, but rather ensure that everyone is invited to share in the same right as anyone else.

I'm quite happy over yesterday's decision, but I also know it's not necessarily the end of it all. I'm still furious over Target and Best Buy's two-faced behavior - I'm ready for some equality this week. Although I live in NY state, I'm glad the wave of equality is slowly but surely washing across this country.

I love this post. I have been married for two years (through a ceremony in Toronto), and in NYC my marriage is legal. However, the right to marry is still denied NY citizens, and so they have to go elsewhere to tie the know. I have had people make comments to my husband and I in Orlando, FL where we used to live, and there are times I don't feel comfortable holding his hand in certain situations. This is not right, and a lot of it stems from the federal government's unwillingness to see our relationships as equal.

Also, I am done with Obama's half-assed support. Either be for us, or not.

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Reply #22 posted 08/05/10 12:04pm

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Also, I'm wondering if any straight couple's married has been hurt, damanged, altered, or even ultimately destroyed in the past 24 hours, like everyone said would happen if gay marriage was legal.

hmmm Anyone?

Anyone?

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Reply #23 posted 08/05/10 12:12pm

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Hero0101 said:

Also, I am done with Obama's half-assed support. Either be for us, or not.

I am with you on that. As I watched David Axelrod being interviewed on MSNBC this morning--where he again stated that Obama does NOT support gay marriage and said "Nothing has changed" regarding Obama's views on this matter--I was incredibly disappointed.

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Reply #24 posted 08/05/10 12:40pm

ernestsewell

Folks need to stop cherry picking for their cause. The President, as a candidate, always said that he felt it should be left to the states to govern the law of gay marriage, and not the federal government.

Of course people want a wide sweeping Federal law, but the fact has always been that Mr. Obama said the states should decide on that. So has his stance changed? Nope.

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Reply #25 posted 08/05/10 12:47pm

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ernestsewell said:

Folks need to stop cherry picking for their cause. The President, as a candidate, always said that he felt it should be left to the states to govern the law of gay marriage, and not the federal government.

Of course people want a wide sweeping Federal law, but the fact has always been that Mr. Obama said the states should decide on that. So has his stance changed? Nope.

Wait this isn't P&R edit.

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Reply #26 posted 08/05/10 2:30pm

Gunsnhalen

Ernest and a lot of the other people here i am only 19, So i have not been through some of the turmoils and bad thing's gays have had to go through in years past.

I Respect you guys cause you guys probably have gone through a lot of shit through the years. The only hard time i had was in high school i was on the football team and senior year i came out some of the guys where very weirded out. but screw them and anyone else who was now that i'm in Hollywood people are ALOT more accepting here then in Texas. But the fact does remain as you guys have said it there's still a big battle to be fought! Most of my friend's are straight and support me which i am very blessed to have i know you guys probably didn't have the same luxury years back when people where highly looking down on gay issues.

But regardless there's still a war going on we won the battle and i hope to GOD we can win the war...

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