I normally choose a McDonald's to do a "pit" stop. Because they are normally cleaner than most restaurants-let alone gas stations.

TonyVanDam said:

andykeen said:

Don't feel guilty... After all your only eating corn...

You have been watching King Corn!

hehe... Ding ding we have a winner!!

scandalousalan said:

I just ate a Mcdonald's there and i feel mega guilty about it for some reason. I never buy Mcd's and never really bothered about it, especially after watching the documentary film on the guy living on nothin but golden arches for a month. I live in Japan right now, and a friend suggested i try it here as it is apparently waaaay better than Mcdonalds in any other country.

Sure enough, i went for the double cheeseburger meal, and my Japanese is still pretty poor so i ended up with a coffee instead of a coke which i thought i had ordered, AAaaanyway, that aside. The fries were not bad i must say. They actually looked and were presented almost exactly as they appeared on the big picture above the counters. The cheeseburger, likewise was impressive by anyones standards. They went a bit crazy with the ketchup, but hey they are all bout sauce over here. The met on the burger was really nice, and the meal as a whole went down fine(including the coffee, which i never drink usually)

Now i feel guilty about eating it, i dunno why. Does anyone here rate Mcd's and is there anyone who is dead against it?

thats ALL you had? psshh....that is basically air.id keep it movin

scandalousalan said:

Well it seams the general consensus is that McD's is ok for an occasional hit of junk food. But is there anyone on either side of the extreme spectrum. Ie does anyone frequent M more than twice a week? Also that map of USA with the plotted restaurants is scary, especially once you factor in all the other junk like KFC, BK, Wendy's(which we don't get in the uk) Actually is Wendy's any good???

someone said that all Mcd's are just as bad as the next one, but is that an accurate assessment? I know that BK in Glasgow sources alot of its beef from Aberdeen. In fact they call it "Aberdeen Angus burger". No i don't doubt there are additives but my point is that the meat quality itself must be relative to the location of the M

Out of all of those places listed.....Wendy's is my least favorite. If I ever go there it's to get a frosty. I haven't had their food in a long time.

TonyVanDam said:

Cinnie said:

I think the ketchup has it too!

.......and the sweet tea!

hell to the YEAH! i damn near need that stuff pumped intravenously-i really really crave it

*which is probably why i'm so....umm sweet*

Wendy's used to be the shit!

So was KFC.

The quality of fast food has decclined.....

BklynBabe said:

Wendy's used to be the shit!

So was KFC.

The quality of fast food has decclined.....

That's what I saying. McDonald's french fries are not as great as they were years ago. And I still miss Wendy's salad bar from the early 1990's.

Wendy's is still aiight y'all

TonyVanDam said:

BklynBabe said:

Wendy's used to be the shit!

So was KFC.

The quality of fast food has decclined.....

That's what I saying. McDonald's french fries are not as great as they were years ago. And I still miss Wendy's salad bar from the early 1990's.

Back in the day, they either used lard or beef tallow for their fries....these days they use plant oil because a lot of vegetarians and vegetarian Hindus complained.

I think they just should have mentioned it clearly in the ingredients instead of changing the oil and therefore changing the flavor. Then again, it´s cool that vegetarians can enjoy the fries now.

By the way...even though I find Mc Donald´s food very bland and their business and management plans despicable, I don´t think that they´re as bad as Morgan Spurlock made them look in his pseudo-documentary "Supersize Me".

A Swedish scientist who found that documentary very unscientific conducted the same experiment on a group of students and came to entirely different results.

From Wiki:

• At Linköping University Swedish scientist Fredrik Nyström repeated the experiment under laboratory conditions, raising the calorie intake by fast food to 6000 kcal per day for seven of his students. Physical exercise was discouraged; participants in the study were even issued free bus passes in the hopes that they would not walk even short distances. The calories also did not have to come exclusively from fast food per se, as long as most of the calories still came in the form of saturated fats. Students who fell short of their intake were given high-calorie shakes at bedtime. The results of the experiment were different than those in Spurlock's film. While the participants gained 5-15% extra weight during the study, and complained of feeling "tired and bloated", no mood swings were observed. "Significant" changes in the participants' livers were observed: "Eleven of the 18 volunteers persistently showed ALT above reference limits indicating liver damage".^[15] However, Nyström noted that these changes were "never even close to dangerous". Nyström ultimately decided that individual variations in metabolism could have a massive effect on a subject's response to such a diet. He also conjectured that Spurlock's apparently extreme reaction to his own experiment might have been due to undiagnosed liver problems, or his partially vegan diet, which rendered his metabolism ill-suited to deal with a diet high in animal protein, cholesterol and saturated fat.^[16]
• Professor James Painter, chair of Eastern Illinois University's School of Family and Consumer Sciences, made the documentary Portion Size Me. The film follows two graduate students, one a 254-pound male and the other a 108-pound female, as they ate a fast-food diet for a month but in portions appropriate for their size. Both students lost weight and their cholesterol improved by the end of the experiment.^[17]

KoolEaze said:

TonyVanDam said:

That's what I saying. McDonald's french fries are not as great as they were years ago. And I still miss Wendy's salad bar from the early 1990's.

Back in the day, they either used lard or beef tallow for their fries....these days they use plant oil because a lot of vegetarians and vegetarian Hindus complained.

I think they just should have mentioned it clearly in the ingredients instead of changing the oil and therefore changing the flavor. Then again, it´s cool that vegetarians can enjoy the fries now.

I hate when diet restrictions (especially religious ones) are imposed on available selection.

KoolEaze said:

TonyVanDam said:

That's what I saying. McDonald's french fries are not as great as they were years ago. And I still miss Wendy's salad bar from the early 1990's.

Back in the day, they either used lard or beef tallow for their fries....these days they use plant oil because a lot of vegetarians and vegetarian Hindus complained.

I think they just should have mentioned it clearly in the ingredients instead of changing the oil and therefore changing the flavor. Then again, it´s cool that vegetarians can enjoy the fries now.

Actually, McDonald's fries of the 21st century are cooked in soybean oil. The fight against trans-fat was part of the reason for the oil switch.

Cinnie said:

KoolEaze said:

Back in the day, they either used lard or beef tallow for their fries....these days they use plant oil because a lot of vegetarians and vegetarian Hindus complained.

I think they just should have mentioned it clearly in the ingredients instead of changing the oil and therefore changing the flavor. Then again, it´s cool that vegetarians can enjoy the fries now.

I hate when diet restrictions (especially religious ones) are imposed on available selection.

It should have NEVER been fast food chains' responsibility to promote healthy eating the begin with.

Fast Food is a type of food that is cooked & prepare in a very fast AND short time limit. The only way to cook food fast is to fly it in cooking oil. The favor of that fast food is dependent on the type of cooking oil being used at that moment.

Unlike fast food, healthy food take a lot of time to be prepare. Homemade food especially take a lot of time to be prepare. Fast Food chains can NEVER do that in a very fast AND short time limit that they are normally under in the kitchen.

If people want to eat heatlhy food, they should NEVER go to fast food chains. Instead, the people should go elsewhere like The Whole Food Market, Golden Correl, OR Ryan's.

TonyVanDam said:

Cinnie said:

I hate when diet restrictions (especially religious ones) are imposed on available selection.

It should have NEVER been fast food chains' responsibility to promote healthy eating the begin with.

Fast Food is a type of food that is cooked & prepare in a very fast AND short time limit. The only way to cook food fast is to fly it in cooking oil. The favor of that fast food is dependent on the type of cooking oil being used at that moment.

Unlike fast food, healthy food take a lot of time to be prepare. Homemade food especially take a lot of time to be prepare. Fast Food chains can NEVER do that in a very fast AND short time limit that they are normally under in the kitchen.

If people want to eat heatlhy food, they should NEVER go to fast food chains. Instead, the people should go elsewhere like The Whole Food Market, Golden Correl, OR Ryan's.

Furthermore, if a consumer takes issue with beef, probably should teach the family to dodge hamburger joints altogether, no?

Cereals don't taste the same either

Is it just me, or does it seem like Ronald Mcdonald's associates are way more minimized these days? Could be the fact I haven't watched saturday morning TV in the longest, and other marketing of the sort might be missing me.

Just seems like back in the day, there was more attention to that crazy cast - the fry guys, Hamburgler, Grimace, etc.

Don't recall seeing any Happy Meal displays with the toys on this last trip either.

Did they stop marketing to kids, and now promote nostalgically to the people who were already tricked as kids?

Cinnie said:

Is it just me, or does it seem like Ronald Mcdonald's associates are way more minimized these days? Could be the fact I haven't watched saturday morning TV in the longest, and other marketing of the sort might be missing me.

Just seems like back in the day, there was more attention to that crazy cast - the fry guys, Hamburgler, Grimace, etc.

Don't recall seeing any Happy Meal displays with the toys on this last trip either.

Did they stop marketing to kids, and now promote nostalgically to the people who were already tricked as kids?

at the mall they are immortalised in TILES surrounding the storefront, but otherwise perhaps they are downplayed in favour of franchised happy meal themes?

ZombieKitten said:

Cinnie said:

Is it just me, or does it seem like Ronald Mcdonald's associates are way more minimized these days? Could be the fact I haven't watched saturday morning TV in the longest, and other marketing of the sort might be missing me.

Just seems like back in the day, there was more attention to that crazy cast - the fry guys, Hamburgler, Grimace, etc.

Don't recall seeing any Happy Meal displays with the toys on this last trip either.

Did they stop marketing to kids, and now promote nostalgically to the people who were already tricked as kids?

at the mall they are immortalised in TILES surrounding the storefront, but otherwise perhaps they are downplayed in favour of franchised happy meal themes?

That's because the TILES have been there longer than their current campaigns I'm sure!

Do your boys know who they all are?

Cinnie said:

ZombieKitten said:

at the mall they are immortalised in TILES surrounding the storefront, but otherwise perhaps they are downplayed in favour of franchised happy meal themes?

That's because the TILES have been there longer than their current campaigns I'm sure!

Do your boys know who they all are?

I will ask them.

That extension to the mall was built within the last 10 years but I think you are still right - they were probably phased out just after!

Cinnie said:

TonyVanDam said:

It should have NEVER been fast food chains' responsibility to promote healthy eating the begin with.

Fast Food is a type of food that is cooked & prepare in a very fast AND short time limit. The only way to cook food fast is to fly it in cooking oil. The favor of that fast food is dependent on the type of cooking oil being used at that moment.

Unlike fast food, healthy food take a lot of time to be prepare. Homemade food especially take a lot of time to be prepare. Fast Food chains can NEVER do that in a very fast AND short time limit that they are normally under in the kitchen.

If people want to eat heatlhy food, they should NEVER go to fast food chains. Instead, the people should go elsewhere like The Whole Food Market, Golden Correl, OR Ryan's.

Furthermore, if a consumer takes issue with beef, probably should teach the family to dodge hamburger joints altogether, no?

Or at the very least, buy fat-free beef from bulls that were raise being grass-fed only.

Also, people need to eat more fish. Grill salmon is good!