I've been saying that the owner's comments sounded slaveowner-ish. Seems others think so too.

Jesse Jackson faults Cavs owner’s LeBron comments

CHICAGO (AP)—Jesse Jackson criticized Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert on Sunday, saying Gilbert sees LeBron James(notes) as a “runaway slave” and that the owner’s comments after the free-agent forward decided to join the Miami Heat put the player in danger.

Shortly after James announced his decision last week, Gilbert fired off an incendiary letter to Cleveland’s fans, ripping the 25-year-old and promising to deliver a title before James wins one. He called James’ decision “cowardly” and later told The Associated Press he believes James quit during a handful of Cavaliers playoff games.

“He has gotten a free pass,” Gilbert told the AP in a phone interview late Thursday night. “People have covered up for (James) for way too long. Tonight we saw who he really is.”

Jackson said Gilbert’s comments were “mean, arrogant and presumptuous.”

“He speaks as an owner of LeBron and not the owner of the Cleveland Cavaliers,” the reverend said in a release from his Chicago-based civil rights group, the Rainbow PUSH Coalition. “His feelings of betrayal personify a slave master mentality. He sees LeBron as a runaway slave. This is an owner employee relationship—between business partners—and LeBron honored his contract.”

Messages were left Sunday night seeking comment from Gilbert, the Cavaliers and James.

Jackson also called Gilbert’s comments an attack on all NBA players and said the owner should face a “challenge” from the league and the players’ association.

NBA spokesman Tim Frank declined comment.

SCNDLS said:

I've been saying that the owner's comments sounded slaveowner-ish. Seems others think so too.

Jesse Jackson faults Cavs owner’s LeBron comments

CHICAGO (AP)—Jesse Jackson criticized Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert on Sunday, saying Gilbert sees LeBron James(notes) as a “runaway slave” and that the owner’s comments after the free-agent forward decided to join the Miami Heat put the player in danger.

Shortly after James announced his decision last week, Gilbert fired off an incendiary letter to Cleveland’s fans, ripping the 25-year-old and promising to deliver a title before James wins one. He called James’ decision “cowardly” and later told The Associated Press he believes James quit during a handful of Cavaliers playoff games.

“He has gotten a free pass,” Gilbert told the AP in a phone interview late Thursday night. “People have covered up for (James) for way too long. Tonight we saw who he really is.”

Jackson said Gilbert’s comments were “mean, arrogant and presumptuous.”

“He speaks as an owner of LeBron and not the owner of the Cleveland Cavaliers,” the reverend said in a release from his Chicago-based civil rights group, the Rainbow PUSH Coalition. “His feelings of betrayal personify a slave master mentality. He sees LeBron as a runaway slave. This is an owner employee relationship—between business partners—and LeBron honored his contract.”

Messages were left Sunday night seeking comment from Gilbert, the Cavaliers and James.

Jackson also called Gilbert’s comments an attack on all NBA players and said the owner should face a “challenge” from the league and the players’ association.

NBA spokesman Tim Frank declined comment.

Leave it to Jesse to overanalyze it.

RodeoSchro said:

LeBron DID quit in the Boston series.

Good luck Miami. You're gonna need it.

I didn't see that but I think we will be fine, thank you. Riley isn't done yet. He will build a team around the 3 kings...he's good at that. We are not rushing to judgement down here, but we do trust Pat with these decisions.

RebirthOfCool said:

TonyVanDam said:

Not a real good excuse per se.

The Toronto Raptors were one of those then-2 new expansion teams. Ant they gave the Bills one of those 10 losts at well.

But they beat them 3 out of 4 times, so winning 1 time isn't a great counter argument. Plus, the East was weak in the 90s, because whenever MJ wasn't in the Finals, they lost to a West team the Houston Rockets.

I helped you with the specifics there.

SCNDLS said:

I've been saying that the owner's comments sounded slaveowner-ish. Seems others think so too.

Jesse Jackson faults Cavs owner’s LeBron comments

CHICAGO (AP)—Jesse Jackson criticized Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert on Sunday, saying Gilbert sees LeBron James(notes) as a “runaway slave” and that the owner’s comments after the free-agent forward decided to join the Miami Heat put the player in danger.

Shortly after James announced his decision last week, Gilbert fired off an incendiary letter to Cleveland’s fans, ripping the 25-year-old and promising to deliver a title before James wins one. He called James’ decision “cowardly” and later told The Associated Press he believes James quit during a handful of Cavaliers playoff games.

“He has gotten a free pass,” Gilbert told the AP in a phone interview late Thursday night. “People have covered up for (James) for way too long. Tonight we saw who he really is.”

Jackson said Gilbert’s comments were “mean, arrogant and presumptuous.”

“He speaks as an owner of LeBron and not the owner of the Cleveland Cavaliers,” the reverend said in a release from his Chicago-based civil rights group, the Rainbow PUSH Coalition. “His feelings of betrayal personify a slave master mentality. He sees LeBron as a runaway slave. This is an owner employee relationship—between business partners—and LeBron honored his contract.”

Messages were left Sunday night seeking comment from Gilbert, the Cavaliers and James.

Jackson also called Gilbert’s comments an attack on all NBA players and said the owner should face a “challenge” from the league and the players’ association.

NBA spokesman Tim Frank declined comment.

Min. Farrakhan would have said the same thing!

RodeoSchro said:

The Rockets had a team with three Hall-of-Famers - twice, actually.

Didn't work out either time. Of course, once it was when we had that quitter Scottie Pippen, so maybe that one shouldn't count.

Don't know if he was a quitter but he sure was a whiner that year in Houston.

He was complaining through the media that he wasn't getting the ball enough.

When the team looked at the stats, he was the player who took the most

shots.

phunkdaddy said:

RodeoSchro said:

The Rockets had a team with three Hall-of-Famers - twice, actually.

Didn't work out either time. Of course, once it was when we had that quitter Scottie Pippen, so maybe that one shouldn't count.

Don't know if he was a quitter but he sure was a whiner that year in Houston.

He was complaining through the media that he wasn't getting the ball enough.

When the team looked at the stats, he was the player who took the most

shots.

[Edited 7/11/10 23:01pm]

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Graycap23 said:

Not the first time. In the playoffs, Phil set a play for the final shot to go to Kukoc. Pip didn't like it so he benched himself, Toni hit the shot and the won.

A 2 second play out of a 14 year career. That simple.

RebirthOfCool said:

SCNDLS said:

I've been saying that the owner's comments sounded slaveowner-ish. Seems others think so too.

Jesse Jackson faults Cavs owner’s LeBron comments

CHICAGO (AP)—Jesse Jackson criticized Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert on Sunday, saying Gilbert sees LeBron James(notes) as a “runaway slave” and that the owner’s comments after the free-agent forward decided to join the Miami Heat put the player in danger.

Shortly after James announced his decision last week, Gilbert fired off an incendiary letter to Cleveland’s fans, ripping the 25-year-old and promising to deliver a title before James wins one. He called James’ decision “cowardly” and later told The Associated Press he believes James quit during a handful of Cavaliers playoff games.

“He has gotten a free pass,” Gilbert told the AP in a phone interview late Thursday night. “People have covered up for (James) for way too long. Tonight we saw who he really is.”

Jackson said Gilbert’s comments were “mean, arrogant and presumptuous.”

“He speaks as an owner of LeBron and not the owner of the Cleveland Cavaliers,” the reverend said in a release from his Chicago-based civil rights group, the Rainbow PUSH Coalition. “His feelings of betrayal personify a slave master mentality. He sees LeBron as a runaway slave. This is an owner employee relationship—between business partners—and LeBron honored his contract.”

Messages were left Sunday night seeking comment from Gilbert, the Cavaliers and James.

Jackson also called Gilbert’s comments an attack on all NBA players and said the owner should face a “challenge” from the league and the players’ association.

NBA spokesman Tim Frank declined comment.

Leave it to Jesse to overanalyze it.

Jesse's as jive as the politicians he criticizes.

uPtoWnNY said:

RebirthOfCool said:

Leave it to Jesse to overanalyze it.

Jesse's as jive as the politicians he criticizes.

Interesting.

I was thinking exactly what Jesse verbalized. It only take 1 FOOL 2 do something real dumb 2 take this hatred of Lebron's decision 2 a completely different level. Let's just hope all is well in Lebron's world.

When u inflame the general public, ANY thing can happen.

Graycap23 said:

I was thinking exactly what Jesse verbalized.

But I don't consider you jive.

I was talking about this with my dad and younger brother - LeBron's gone down a lot in their eyes. Their reasoning? Larry Bird & Magic Johnson would never think of pulling this shit. They wanted to tear each other's heads off. Same with Jordan, even Kobe. James is going to a team where he won't be THE MAN. I can see his point, but it's LeBron's choice, he doesn't owe anybody anything. I don't like the way he went about doing it.

uPtoWnNY said:

Graycap23 said:

I was thinking exactly what Jesse verbalized.

But I don't consider you jive.

I was talking about this with my dad and younger brother - LeBron's gone down a lot in their eyes. Their reasoning? Larry Bird & Magic Johnson would never think of pulling this shit. They wanted to tear each other's heads off. Same with Jordan, even Kobe. James is going to a team where he won't be THE MAN. I can see his point, but it's LeBron's choice, he doesn't owe anybody anything. I don't like the way he went about doing it.

I agree with your coment on Jesse as he is primarily an opportunist......but in this case he is correct.

On Lebron, i think this move may indicate this his "ego" is not as big as some might think. Otherwise, why do this move? It is about "winning" correct?

Graycap23 said:

On Lebron, i think this move may indicate this his "ego" is not as big as some might think. Otherwise, why do this move? It is about "winning" correct?

But why not win on a team where YOU'RE in charge? Jordan would never join forces with Patrick Ewing to win a title. He took pleasure in beating the Knicks.

I guess we were all wrong about LeBron's makeup.

uPtoWnNY said:

Graycap23 said:

On Lebron, i think this move may indicate this his "ego" is not as big as some might think. Otherwise, why do this move? It is about "winning" correct?

But why not win on a team where YOU'RE in charge? Jordan would never join forces with Patrick Ewing to win a title. He took pleasure in beating the Knicks.

I guess we were all wrong about LeBron's makeup.

Different day........different time........different rules.

RebirthOfCool said:

SCNDLS said:

I've been saying that the owner's comments sounded slaveowner-ish. Seems others think so too.

Jesse Jackson faults Cavs owner’s LeBron comments

CHICAGO (AP)—Jesse Jackson criticized Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert on Sunday, saying Gilbert sees LeBron James(notes) as a “runaway slave” and that the owner’s comments after the free-agent forward decided to join the Miami Heat put the player in danger.

Shortly after James announced his decision last week, Gilbert fired off an incendiary letter to Cleveland’s fans, ripping the 25-year-old and promising to deliver a title before James wins one. He called James’ decision “cowardly” and later told The Associated Press he believes James quit during a handful of Cavaliers playoff games.

“He has gotten a free pass,” Gilbert told the AP in a phone interview late Thursday night. “People have covered up for (James) for way too long. Tonight we saw who he really is.”

Jackson said Gilbert’s comments were “mean, arrogant and presumptuous.”

“He speaks as an owner of LeBron and not the owner of the Cleveland Cavaliers,” the reverend said in a release from his Chicago-based civil rights group, the Rainbow PUSH Coalition. “His feelings of betrayal personify a slave master mentality. He sees LeBron as a runaway slave. This is an owner employee relationship—between business partners—and LeBron honored his contract.”

Messages were left Sunday night seeking comment from Gilbert, the Cavaliers and James.

Jackson also called Gilbert’s comments an attack on all NBA players and said the owner should face a “challenge” from the league and the players’ association.

NBA spokesman Tim Frank declined comment.

Leave it to Jesse to overanalyze it.

I don't think he's overanalyzing at all. I noticed the owner's massa-like undertones immediately.

Graycap23 said:

Different day........different time........different rules.

Unfortunately. The NBA ain't what it used to be.

Mark Cuban wants Probe Into the 'Big 3'

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5371956

uPtoWnNY said:

Mark Cuban wants Probe Into the 'Big 3'

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5371956

Mark Cuban needs a probe of a different kind in his ass? An enema

Speaking of an attention seeking whore.

Seems as though he's already admitting defeat. He's used to his

teams annual flameout in the first round.

Graycap23 said:

uPtoWnNY said:

But I don't consider you jive.

I was talking about this with my dad and younger brother - LeBron's gone down a lot in their eyes. Their reasoning? Larry Bird & Magic Johnson would never think of pulling this shit. They wanted to tear each other's heads off. Same with Jordan, even Kobe. James is going to a team where he won't be THE MAN. I can see his point, but it's LeBron's choice, he doesn't owe anybody anything. I don't like the way he went about doing it.

I agree with your coment on Jesse as he is primarily an opportunist......but in this case he is correct.

On Lebron, i think this move may indicate this his "ego" is not as big as some might think. Otherwise, why do this move? It is about "winning" correct?

It also about those rings and THE best way to win them. And beside, if LeBron feels more happy to be Dwayne's new favorite teammate over being a leader of his own team elsewhere then that is his decision.

uPtoWnNY said:

Graycap23 said:

On Lebron, i think this move may indicate this his "ego" is not as big as some might think. Otherwise, why do this move? It is about "winning" correct?

But why not win on a team where YOU'RE in charge? Jordan would never join forces with Patrick Ewing to win a title. He took pleasure in beating the Knicks.

I guess we were all wrong about LeBron's makeup.

I'm convince that LeBron does NOT want the burden that comes with being the leader anymore. Plain and simple.

TonyVanDam said:

I'm convince that LeBron does NOT want the burden that comes with being the leader anymore. Plain and simple.

And I have to be honest, I'm a little disappointed.

TonyVanDam said:

RebirthOfCool said:

But they beat them 3 out of 4 times, so winning 1 time isn't a great counter argument. Plus, the East was weak in the 90s, because whenever MJ wasn't in the Finals, they lost to a West team the Houston Rockets.

I helped you with the specifics there.

No, in the 90s, whenever the Bulls didn't make the Finals, the west beat the East: Spurs, Rockets, and Lakers.

SCNDLS said:

RebirthOfCool said:

Leave it to Jesse to overanalyze it.

I don't think he's overanalyzing at all. I noticed the owner's massa-like undertones immediately.

Honestly, he sounds like a dude who's chick just left him, and for another man.

phunkdaddy said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Mark Cuban wants Probe Into the 'Big 3'

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5371956

Mark Cuban needs a probe of a different kind in his ass? An enema

Speaking of an attention seeking whore.

Seems as though he's already admitting defeat. He's used to his

teams annual flameout in the first round.

TonyVanDam said:

uPtoWnNY said:

But why not win on a team where YOU'RE in charge? Jordan would never join forces with Patrick Ewing to win a title. He took pleasure in beating the Knicks.

I guess we were all wrong about LeBron's makeup.

I'm convince that LeBron does NOT want the burden that comes with being the leader anymore. Plain and simple.

Yep. He's created a new term: the sub-alpha male.

RebirthOfCool said:

TonyVanDam said:

I helped you with the specifics there.

No, in the 90s, whenever the Bulls didn't make the Finals, the west beat the East: Spurs, Rockets, and Lakers.

Correct. Some of us feel kind of cheated that we never had a Bulls VS. Rockets NBA Finals series.

Whatever. Which one is Lebron James? Chloes man??? Whats goin on with CHLOE??????

phunkdaddy said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Mark Cuban wants Probe Into the 'Big 3'

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5371956

Mark Cuban needs a probe of a different kind in his ass? An enema

Speaking of an attention seeking whore.

Seems as though he's already admitting defeat. He's used to his

teams annual flameout in the first round.

He another one need to shut the fuck up already. I was PRAYING Dirk would leave Dallas and reunite with Steve in Phoenix. That would be the ultimate karmic payback for doing Steve dirty. Mark don't have nobody to blame but himself for losing in the finals. The Mavs woulda beat Miami if Steve was still here then.

I can't believe the amounts of hateration Lebron's getting over this

LeBron James booed at Carmelo Anthony's wedding

Last Saturday, while you were enjoying bratwursts and s'mores, Carmelo Anthony(notes) was marrying LaLa Vasquez, an MTV VJ. Cool weekend plans, I suppose. And since Melo is a big-time NBA baller, he attracted more than a few celebrities to his New York City nuptials. In attendance were Kim Kardashian, Spike Lee, Justin Timberlake and Ludacris, who hopefully provided entertainment during the reception. Oh, and LeBron James(notes), whom you may have heard of.

That's right — LeBron James was in New York City just two days after choosing the Miami Heat in his highly rated one-hour ESPN special. You can imagine how well that went over with Knick fans.

From Fox Sports:

[LeBron] James was greeted by a round of loud boos from angry New Yorkers outside the wedding in Cipriani 42nd Street when he arrived with his girlfriend Savannah Brinson, myFOXny.com reported.

Geez, LeBron. Way to almost ruin your friend's wedding by choosing to play in Miami. It's like that old saying: "You made your multi-millon dollar free-agency bed, now get booed by Knick fans in it." Or something like that. LBJ might as well hear the jeers now, since he'll be getting heckled basically everywhere but Miami-Wade County. Better to start with a few scattered New Yorkers than 20,000 rabid Clevelanders who hate his guts.

Of course, if those same classy Knick fans had stuck around a little longer, they might have gotten some good news. According to the New York Post's Marc Berman, attendee Chris Paul(notes) made a pretty interesting speech at the ceremony.

During Carmelo Anthony's wedding Saturday night at Cipriani's on 42nd Street, Chris Paul, the superstar New Orleans point guard, predicted a future Knicks Dream Team. [...]

According to a person who spoke with wedding attendee Amar'e Stoudemire(notes), Paul made the reference during a speech of a potential union of himself, Stoudemire and Anthony, saying, "We'll form our own Big 3," Paul allegedly said.

I'm sure that won't get New York fans' hopes up for the summer of 2012. Surely they'll take this potential joining of forces in stride and not get too upset if it never comes to fruition. At least I hope that's the case because VJs don't grow on trees these days. If things change, it'd be unfortunate for Knicks fans to have to boo Chris Paul for passing Jesse Camp on the street.

TonyVanDam said:

RebirthOfCool said:

No, in the 90s, whenever the Bulls didn't make the Finals, the west beat the East: Spurs, Rockets, and Lakers.

Correct. Some of us feel kind of cheated that we never had a Bulls VS. Rockets NBA Finals series.

Man! You, too!? That's the ONLY finals I wanted see: 95 Rockets vs 96 Bulls.