namepeace said:

Sad to say, but true. Isaiah Thomas might be the guy most responsible for the Knicks not getting LeBron.

Not Isaiah, but the idiot who hired him. Knicks have been in a ten-year tailspin since Jim Dolan and his cronies at Cablevision took over.

I'm afraid my Bulls are going 2 do what they always do....................lay an egg.

uPtoWnNY said:

namepeace said:

Sad to say, but true. Isaiah Thomas might be the guy most responsible for the Knicks not getting LeBron.

Not Isaiah, but the idiot who hired him. Knicks have been in a ten-year tailspin since Jim Dolan and his cronies at Cablevision took over.

indeed, maybe it's time to focus on the draft to build a winner.

namepeace said:

Graycap23 said:

Why in the world would they give Paul a 4 year deal? Bad move on Boston's part.

Terrible decision. He could barely drag himself across the finish line in the Finals, and was a non-factor in at least 50% of the playoff games this season. They'd be nuts to give him that much money, but as a Laker fan, I say go right ahead.

LMAO, this is getting AWESOME.

First of all, the Bosh-to-Miami deal isn't done at all. But it's certainly on the table.

Second, this article on Yahoo is just GREAT:

http://sports.yahoo.com/n...nets063010

I would JUMP at the chance to partner with Prokhorov. AWESOME stuff!

Third, what I wouldn't give to be a fly on World Wide Wes' wall. You KNOW that's where all the real deals are going down.

This is so entertaining.

Graycap23 said:

phunkdaddy said:

How many miles on Paul's legs?

No more than Kobe. He's led them to a title and was 2 and a half

minutes away from leading them to another title. He played valiantly

against the top players night in and night out during the playoffs.

I don't quite get the logic that he's got to many miles on his legs.

They said the same thing about Ray Allen and Pierce is younger.

Richard Jefferson to opt out of his currnet deal, leaving 15.2 million on the table. Fucking fool. LOL.

[Edited 6/30/10 18:17pm]

RebirthOfCool said:

Richard Jefferson to opt out of his currnet deal, leaving 15.2 million on the table. Fucking fool. LOL.

[Edited 6/30/10 18:17pm]

He never fit in with the Spurs.

uPtoWnNY said:

RebirthOfCool said:

Richard Jefferson to opt out of his currnet deal, leaving 15.2 million on the table. Fucking fool. LOL.

[Edited 6/30/10 18:17pm]

He never fit in with the Spurs.

Nope.

Looks like Byron Scott will be the next Cavs coach.

uPtoWnNY said:

Looks like Byron Scott will be the next Cavs coach.

Already is.

And in the first big free agent signing of the summer... nothing happened.

Joe Johnson will remain a Hawk and accept their max-deal offer (six years, $124.5 million), according to Adrian Wojnarowski at Yahoo Sports. Not a shock there. Johnson's people had been saying for weeks that ultimately he wanted to stay in Atlanta -- not just because of Daddy Dz Barbecue -- and if they made the offer, he would take it.

Atlanta may well come to regret this offer -- they just paid a good player superstar money, they just paid a perimeter player big money until he was 34. The fifth and sixth years of this deal it could be a burden. A franchise with an estimated net wor...06 million just agreed to a $124 million deal. But they got their man.

The Knicks also met with Johnson and made a max deal offer, but it is for five years and about $27 million less. Johnson was a guy the Knicks and a number of other teams has as their second tier targets. But Johnson was among the many free agents leery of going to New York if LeBron doesn't go there. Do you want to be the guy expected to be the savior of that franchise right now? Do you want to have to live up to those expectations? It's a lot to ask.

Houston, Dallas and Chicago also were trying to get meetings with Johnson, but that may all be moot now.

uPtoWnNY said:

Thu Jul 01,2010 8:53 AM ETBy Kurt Helin

And in the first big free agent signing of the summer... nothing happened.

Joe Johnson will remain a Hawk and accept their max-deal offer (six years, $124.5 million), according to Adrian Wojnarowski at Yahoo Sports. Not a shock there. Johnson's people had been saying for weeks that ultimately he wanted to stay in Atlanta -- not just because of Daddy Dz Barbecue -- and if they made the offer, he would take it.

Atlanta may well come to regret this offer -- they just paid a good player superstar money, they just paid a perimeter player big money until he was 34. The fifth and sixth years of this deal it could be a burden. A franchise with an estimated net wor...06 million just agreed to a $124 million deal. But they got their man.

The Knicks also met with Johnson and made a max deal offer, but it is for five years and about $27 million less. Johnson was a guy the Knicks and a number of other teams has as their second tier targets. But Johnson was among the many free agents leery of going to New York if LeBron doesn't go there. Do you want to be the guy expected to be the savior of that franchise right now? Do you want to have to live up to those expectations? It's a lot to ask.

Houston, Dallas and Chicago also were trying to get meetings with Johnson, but that may all be moot now.

I'm not mad at Joe but no way he is worth that kind of loot.

Graycap23 said:

I'm not mad at Joe but no way he is worth that kind of loot.

Hell no. The Hawks got fleeced and they will regret this deal. Johnson's not a difference-maker.

uPtoWnNY said:

Graycap23 said:

I'm not mad at Joe but no way he is worth that kind of loot.

Hell no. The Hawks got fleeced and they will regret this deal. Johnson's not a difference-maker.

They should have figured that out the last 5 years here in Atlanta.

phunkdaddy said:

Graycap23 said:

How many miles on Paul's legs?

No more than Kobe. He's led them to a title and was 2 and a half

minutes away from leading them to another title. He played valiantly

against the top players night in and night out during the playoffs.

I don't quite get the logic that he's got to many miles on his legs.

They said the same thing about Ray Allen and Pierce is younger.

The issue is whether he justifies max money. Kobe's not a good comparison, notwithstanding the fact that Kobe is clearly on another level.

Pierce's core cast includes 2 players (KG, Allen) older than he is. All but one of Kobe's core cast (Fisher) is younger, and his primary supporting player (Gasol) is still in his prime. Pierce has also had more serious injury problems on and off the court than Kobe.

If the C's get a little younger and get some more support, then it may be worth the investment. But Pierce pretty much disappeared down the stretch of the Finals, as did Allen. The team was old and ran out of gas at the end of a great run.

Now the C's will bring them both back, *and* they're going to pay a 32 year-old Pierce max salary for 4 years? the Big 3 will be history by then and it will be hard to rebuild around Pierce's contract.

The C's seem to be mortgaging their decade on One More Run and they may live to regret it.

Graycap23 said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Hell no. The Hawks got fleeced and they will regret this deal. Johnson's not a difference-maker.

They should have figured that out the last 5 years here in Atlanta.

Now they may not have room for a No.1-type franchise player

namepeace said:

phunkdaddy said:

No more than Kobe. He's led them to a title and was 2 and a half

minutes away from leading them to another title. He played valiantly

against the top players night in and night out during the playoffs.

I don't quite get the logic that he's got to many miles on his legs.

They said the same thing about Ray Allen and Pierce is younger.

The issue is whether he justifies max money. Kobe's not a good comparison, notwithstanding the fact that Kobe is clearly on another level.

Pierce's core cast includes 2 players (KG, Allen) older than he is. All but one of Kobe's core cast (Fisher) is younger, and his primary supporting player (Gasol) is still in his prime. Pierce has also had more serious injury problems on and off the court than Kobe.

If the C's get a little younger and get some more support, then it may be worth the investment. But Pierce pretty much disappeared down the stretch of the Finals, as did Allen. The team was old and ran out of gas at the end of a great run.

Now the C's will bring them both back, *and* they're going to pay a 32 year-old Pierce max salary for 4 years? the Big 3 will be history by then and it will be hard to rebuild around Pierce's contract.

The C's seem to be mortgaging their decade on One More Run and they may live to regret it.

I know Pierce isn't quite on the level with Kobe although Pierce proved to be the

best player in the 2008 Finals. The only problem with Pierce he isn't consistently great

night in and night out like Kobe but when Pierce is on he's the best pure shooter

in the game. Bottom line. He deserves one more big payday from Boston.

phunkdaddy said:

I know Pierce isn't quite on the level with Kobe although Pierce proved to be the

best player in the 2008 Finals. The only problem with Pierce he isn't consistently great

night in and night out like Kobe but when Pierce is on he's the best pure shooter

in the game. Bottom line. He deserves one more big payday from Boston.

Any player that brings a title to a town after sticking with them for so long is deserving of a good send-off. The issue is whether they shoulg give him max money for 4 years. It may be just desserts for Pierce to get a 2-year extension at max, but 4 isn't a sound basketball decision, but that's just my view.

namepeace said:

phunkdaddy said:

I know Pierce isn't quite on the level with Kobe although Pierce proved to be the

best player in the 2008 Finals. The only problem with Pierce he isn't consistently great

night in and night out like Kobe but when Pierce is on he's the best pure shooter

in the game. Bottom line. He deserves one more big payday from Boston.

Any player that brings a title to a town after sticking with them for so long is deserving of a good send-off. The issue is whether they shoulg give him max money for 4 years. It may be just desserts for Pierce to get a 2-year extension at max, but 4 isn't a sound basketball decision, but that's just my view.

Ainge can't be that dumb.

Graycap23 said:

namepeace said:

Any player that brings a title to a town after sticking with them for so long is deserving of a good send-off. The issue is whether they shoulg give him max money for 4 years. It may be just desserts for Pierce to get a 2-year extension at max, but 4 isn't a sound basketball decision, but that's just my view.

Ainge can't be that dumb.

I wouldn't bring them back for any more than one. Ainge remembers how the C's let the 80's nucleus stay together too long. It took them a generation to get back. I'd give'em one more year if only because Rivers agreed to come back to coach them.

namepeace said:

phunkdaddy said:

I know Pierce isn't quite on the level with Kobe although Pierce proved to be the

best player in the 2008 Finals. The only problem with Pierce he isn't consistently great

night in and night out like Kobe but when Pierce is on he's the best pure shooter

in the game. Bottom line. He deserves one more big payday from Boston.

Any player that brings a title to a town after sticking with them for so long is deserving of a good send-off. The issue is whether they shoulg give him max money for 4 years. It may be just desserts for Pierce to get a 2-year extension at max, but 4 isn't a sound basketball decision, but that's just my view.

I hear you. The hawks just overpayed for Johnson and Johnson isn't even on the

same level Pierce is. I would certainly give Pierce a big payday before i give

one to Stoudemire. At least Pierce will attempt to play defense.

Memphis gave Rudy Gay five years at $82 million. WTF????

Darko Milicic got a four-year deal from the T-Wolves.

And these owners have the nerve to cry poverty.

[Edited 7/1/10 12:23pm]

uPtoWnNY said:

Memphis gave Rudy Gay five years at $82 million. WTF????

Darko Milicic got a four-year deal from the T-Wolves.

And these owners have the nerve to cry poverty.

[Edited 7/1/10 12:23pm]

Memphis had no where else to go. Right now Memphis doesn't have

the clout to sign other big name free agents. Keeping Rudy was

essential to the team's continued development. Also must keep

Mayo in the fold down the road.

Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports is reporting that The Milwaukee Bucks have reached terms on a five-year, $32 million deal with Drew Gooden.

The deal marks the first deal of the 2010 Free Agent season, and huge win for Gooden and his agent Dan Fegan. Gooden has played for eight teams in his eight year career and was adamant during the season that he was looking for stability in his next contract.

The deal will pay Gooden roughly $6.4 million per season over the life of the agreement.

As Y! reported late Wednesday night, Bucks and John Salmons progressing toward contract agreement. Deal likely worth $40 mlll., source says.

at these wack contracts

uPtoWnNY said:

Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports is reporting that The Milwaukee Bucks have reached terms on a five-year, $32 million deal with Drew Gooden.

The deal marks the first deal of the 2010 Free Agent season, and huge win for Gooden and his agent Dan Fegan. Gooden has played for eight teams in his eight year career and was adamant during the season that he was looking for stability in his next contract.

The deal will pay Gooden roughly $6.4 million per season over the life of the agreement.

As Y! reported late Wednesday night, Bucks and John Salmons progressing toward contract agreement. Deal likely worth $40 mlll., source says.

at these wack contracts

Gooden is definitely not worth it. Salmons is decent but damn. Hell to the naw.

Just as in years past.....players are staying with their current teams so far.

phunkdaddy said:

namepeace said:

Any player that brings a title to a town after sticking with them for so long is deserving of a good send-off. The issue is whether they shoulg give him max money for 4 years. It may be just desserts for Pierce to get a 2-year extension at max, but 4 isn't a sound basketball decision, but that's just my view.

I hear you. The hawks just overpayed for Johnson and Johnson isn't even on the

same level Pierce is. I would certainly give Pierce a big payday before i give

one to Stoudemire. At least Pierce will attempt to play defense.

I agree. Pierce is time-tested No.1 option. Johnson couldn't even stick in Phoenix. I'm not a huge believer in Stoudemire getting max money either.

phunkdaddy said:

namepeace said:

The issue is whether he justifies max money. Kobe's not a good comparison, notwithstanding the fact that Kobe is clearly on another level.

Pierce's core cast includes 2 players (KG, Allen) older than he is. All but one of Kobe's core cast (Fisher) is younger, and his primary supporting player (Gasol) is still in his prime. Pierce has also had more serious injury problems on and off the court than Kobe.

If the C's get a little younger and get some more support, then it may be worth the investment. But Pierce pretty much disappeared down the stretch of the Finals, as did Allen. The team was old and ran out of gas at the end of a great run.

Now the C's will bring them both back, *and* they're going to pay a 32 year-old Pierce max salary for 4 years? the Big 3 will be history by then and it will be hard to rebuild around Pierce's contract.

The C's seem to be mortgaging their decade on One More Run and they may live to regret it.

I know Pierce isn't quite on the level with Kobe although Pierce proved to be the

best player in the 2008 Finals. The only problem with Pierce he isn't consistently great

night in and night out like Kobe but when Pierce is on he's the best pure shooter

in the game. Bottom line. He deserves one more big payday from Boston.

But being the best in the Finals doesn't mean he's worth the big extension. Plus, KG was the cog that made that tam go. No KG and you saw what happened in 2009.

phunkdaddy said:

namepeace said:

Any player that brings a title to a town after sticking with them for so long is deserving of a good send-off. The issue is whether they shoulg give him max money for 4 years. It may be just desserts for Pierce to get a 2-year extension at max, but 4 isn't a sound basketball decision, but that's just my view.

I hear you. The hawks just overpayed for Johnson and Johnson isn't even on the

same level Pierce is. I would certainly give Pierce a big payday before i give

one to Stoudemire. At least Pierce will attempt to play defense.

Methinks ye may be hyping Pierce up a tad bit much.