Genesia said:

I watched a clip of her on TV this morning.

I lost at least 20 IQ points just listening to her.

I kept hearing this story before this thread was started.

Cinnie said:

Reel said:

How can another bank tell you that you have no right to tell your Mucked Up story about another bank to the media

This second story is some mess. Her new job is barely mentioned, so I don't see how they can say she could be terminated for talking.

I feel awful for this beautiful woman

So if she was "not beautiful", would you feel sorry for her?

chocolate1 said:

Cinnie said:

This second story is some mess. Her new job is barely mentioned, so I don't see how they can say she could be terminated for talking.

I feel awful for this beautiful woman

So if she was "not beautiful", would you feel sorry for her?

I wouldn't have to be sorry, because she wouldn't be surrounded by jealous haters

Cinnie said:

chocolate1 said:

So if she was "not beautiful", would you feel sorry for her?

I wouldn't have to be sorry, because she wouldn't be surrounded by jealous haters

Cinnie said:

chocolate1 said:

So if she was "not beautiful", would you feel sorry for her?

I wouldn't have to be sorry, because she wouldn't be surrounded by jealous haters

But I don't understand why people think just because she couldn't grasp the concept of "professional attire" that she has haters. She needs to follow the dress code despite what her body dimensions happen to be. Appropriate is appropriate. If she wasn't wearing what she should, she should be called on it.

To think that women automatically feel threatened by, or are jealous of someone JUST because of the way she looks is just unfair. Not all women think that way.

So if a guy who has a really toned, chiseled body wore tight tees with the sleeves cut off, and clothes that show how he is built instead of business suits, guys wouldn't be looking at him like ?

Like I said the other day- why bother to teach young girls how to dress when we can just teach them to wear whatever they want and sue if someone calls them on it.

Genesia said:

I watched a clip of her on TV this morning.

I lost at least 20 IQ points just listening to her.

WaterInYourBath said:

Genesia said:

I watched a clip of her on TV this morning.

I lost at least 20 IQ points just listening to her.

It's not funny. Hanging out here doesn't leave me a lot to spare.

chocolate1 said:

So if a guy who has a really toned, chiseled body wore tight tees with the sleeves cut off, and clothes that show how he is built instead of business suits

She wasn't wearing t-shirts or baring anything with cut-offs though.

When a man wears turtlenecks and dresspants that showed what he was working with...

haters

Cinnie said:

chocolate1 said:

So if a guy who has a really toned, chiseled body wore tight tees with the sleeves cut off, and clothes that show how he is built instead of business suits

She wasn't wearing t-shirts or baring anything with cut-offs though.

When a man wears turtlenecks and dresspants that showed what he was working with...

haters

My point about men was an example.

She doesn't have haters. She needs to learn to follow the rules.

Genesia said:

Ottensen said:

Me.

...and a good lot of us wear jeans and Converse (or Adidas) sneakers, too. Our pastor, a rather learned man from a highly esteemed family in Capetown, often wears traditional printed caftan shirts to reflect his African heritage, and yesterday we had an unexpected heatwave that sent half the female congregation into colorful halter dresses, and a good portion of the men (Deacon board members and my worship leader fiancee included) into cargo shorts. If it's not one of those churches that forces its parishioners to wear what they consider to be formal church attire, I don't see why a t-shirt with a cartoon character on it would look out of place in a church...anyhoo....

Okay, well...to me it is a far cry from a colorful summer dress to a cartoon t-shirt.

Diff'rent strokes...

Getting concerned with church attire is the real distraction, surely. Give me spirituality over religion any day of the week.

chocolate1 said:

Cinnie said:

She wasn't wearing t-shirts or baring anything with cut-offs though.

When a man wears turtlenecks and dresspants that showed what he was working with...

haters

My point about men was an example.

She doesn't have haters. She needs to learn to follow the rules.

Her body makes the rules. !

Cinnie said:

chocolate1 said:

My point about men was an example.

She doesn't have haters. She needs to learn to follow the rules.

Her body makes the rules. !

Okay, yeah, that deserves a brick.

Cinnie said:

chocolate1 said:

My point about men was an example.

She doesn't have haters. She needs to learn to follow the rules.

Her body makes the rules. !

Because she has hot curves, she is expected to have a different set of dress code rules applied to her?

I don't know what the other women that worked there dressed like, but I can't see it being all that different than her.

Guess they wanted to make sure that there was no evidence of a nice shape at all...like box suit jackets and box skirts.

If all the women were being told to dress that way, I could get with it...but if she had to have set of rules just for her and her body type, that's totally not cool.

She even has "hataz" on the org.

Cinnie said:

She even has "hataz" on the org.

she's also had a couple job offers!

JustErin said:

Cinnie said:

Her body makes the rules. !

Because she has hot curves, she is expected to have a different set of dress code rules applied to her?

I don't know what the other women that worked there dressed like, but I can't see it being all that different than her.

Guess they wanted to make sure that there was no evidence of a nice shape at all...like box suit jackets and box skirts.

If all the women were being told to dress that way, I could get with it...but if she had to have set of rules just for her and her body type, that's totally not cool.

Why wouldn't everyone have the same rules? I'm sure there isn't a "dress code for shapely women" and a "dress code for the others". That's where common sense comes in. If she- or anyone else- puts on something and it doesn't look professional because of the way it fits, DON'T WEAR IT TO WORK. Everything doesn't fit everyone the same way, so we can't wear everything everywhere.

chocolate1 said:

JustErin said:

Because she has hot curves, she is expected to have a different set of dress code rules applied to her?

I don't know what the other women that worked there dressed like, but I can't see it being all that different than her.

Guess they wanted to make sure that there was no evidence of a nice shape at all...like box suit jackets and box skirts.

If all the women were being told to dress that way, I could get with it...but if she had to have set of rules just for her and her body type, that's totally not cool.

Why wouldn't everyone have the same rules? I'm sure there isn't a "dress code for shapely women" and a "dress code for the others". That's where common sense comes in. If she- or anyone else- puts on something and it doesn't look professional because of the way it fits, DON'T WEAR IT TO WORK. Everything doesn't fit everyone the same way, so we can't wear everything everywhere.

Oh my gawd y'all I was joking about her body making the rules. I honestly thought the story was she never broke any rules to begin with.

chocolate1 said:

JustErin said:

Because she has hot curves, she is expected to have a different set of dress code rules applied to her?

I don't know what the other women that worked there dressed like, but I can't see it being all that different than her.

Guess they wanted to make sure that there was no evidence of a nice shape at all...like box suit jackets and box skirts.

If all the women were being told to dress that way, I could get with it...but if she had to have set of rules just for her and her body type, that's totally not cool.

Why wouldn't everyone have the same rules? I'm sure there isn't a "dress code for shapely women" and a "dress code for the others". That's where common sense comes in. If she- or anyone else- puts on something and it doesn't look professional because of the way it fits, DON'T WEAR IT TO WORK. Everything doesn't fit everyone the same way, so we can't wear everything everywhere.

But I think that's her whole point, she isn't dressing different that anyone else. She was told not to wear turtlenecks, ffs.

From her video she looks totally professional, and her clothes fit. They were not too tight. If indeed that was how she was dressing and they felt it was inappropriate, I agree with her, they are wrong.

It would be like telling a morbidly obese person that wearing a skirt and showing some calf is inappropriate because of their body type (and everyone else is wearing skirts in the meantime).

I do think that if it was a case of a obese person being put out of the way because of their body, people would be totally pissed. And they certainly wouldn't be making jokes about saying she should go into porn (which is just a form of sexual harassment itself) like they have with this chick.

I honestly don't see this as any different.

If it wasn't her work performance, if it was indeed her attire (while she adhered to the dress code) I think she it totally right - they do have a problem with her appearing too sexy (in their eyes) and I see no wrong in her saying that's what she feels it is. She certainly doesn't deserve all the cruel comments she's getting for stating what very well might be fact.

JustErin said:

chocolate1 said:

Why wouldn't everyone have the same rules? I'm sure there isn't a "dress code for shapely women" and a "dress code for the others". That's where common sense comes in. If she- or anyone else- puts on something and it doesn't look professional because of the way it fits, DON'T WEAR IT TO WORK. Everything doesn't fit everyone the same way, so we can't wear everything everywhere.

But I think that's her whole point, she isn't dressing different that anyone else. She was told not to wear turtlenecks, ffs.

From her video she looks totally professional, and her clothes fit. They were not too tight. If indeed that was how she was dressing and they felt it was inappropriate, I agree with her, they are wrong.

It would be like telling a morbidly obese person that wearing a skirt and showing some calf is inappropriate because of their body type (and everyone else is wearing skirts in the meantime).

I do think that if it was a case of a obese person being put out of the way because of their body, people would be totally pissed. And they certainly wouldn't be making jokes about saying she should go into porn (which is just a form of sexual harassment itself) like they have with this chick.

I honestly don't see this as any different.

If it wasn't her work performance, if it was indeed her attire (while she adhered to the dress code) I think she it totally right - they do have a problem with her appearing too sexy (in their eyes) and I see no wrong in her saying that's what she feels it is. She certainly doesn't deserve all the cruel comments she's getting for stating what very well might be fact.

that's all well & good, alls I'm sayin is she needs to be kicked in the shins

NDRU said:

JustErin said:

But I think that's her whole point, she isn't dressing different that anyone else. She was told not to wear turtlenecks, ffs.

From her video she looks totally professional, and her clothes fit. They were not too tight. If indeed that was how she was dressing and they felt it was inappropriate, I agree with her, they are wrong.

It would be like telling a morbidly obese person that wearing a skirt and showing some calf is inappropriate because of their body type (and everyone else is wearing skirts in the meantime).

I do think that if it was a case of a obese person being put out of the way because of their body, people would be totally pissed. And they certainly wouldn't be making jokes about saying she should go into porn (which is just a form of sexual harassment itself) like they have with this chick.

I honestly don't see this as any different.

If it wasn't her work performance, if it was indeed her attire (while she adhered to the dress code) I think she it totally right - they do have a problem with her appearing too sexy (in their eyes) and I see no wrong in her saying that's what she feels it is. She certainly doesn't deserve all the cruel comments she's getting for stating what very well might be fact.

that's all well & good, alls I'm sayin is she needs to be kicked in the shins

Fair enough.

JustErin said:

chocolate1 said:

Why wouldn't everyone have the same rules? I'm sure there isn't a "dress code for shapely women" and a "dress code for the others". That's where common sense comes in. If she- or anyone else- puts on something and it doesn't look professional because of the way it fits, DON'T WEAR IT TO WORK. Everything doesn't fit everyone the same way, so we can't wear everything everywhere.

But I think that's her whole point, she isn't dressing different that anyone else. She was told not to wear turtlenecks, ffs.

From her video she looks totally professional, and her clothes fit. They were not too tight. If indeed that was how she was dressing and they felt it was inappropriate, I agree with her, they are wrong.

It would be like telling a morbidly obese person that wearing a skirt and showing some calf is inappropriate because of their body type (and everyone else is wearing skirts in the meantime).

I do think that if it was a case of a obese person being put out of the way because of their body, people would be totally pissed. And they certainly wouldn't be making jokes about saying she should go into porn (which is just a form of sexual harassment itself) like they have with this chick.

I honestly don't see this as any different.

If it wasn't her work performance, if it was indeed her attire (while she adhered to the dress code) I think she it totally right - they do have a problem with her appearing too sexy (in their eyes) and I see no wrong in her saying that's what she feels it is. She certainly doesn't deserve all the cruel comments she's getting for stating what very well might be fact.

OF COURSE she's not going to appear in her own defense wearing what she got in trouble for- she has to try to win sympathy by acting (and looking) like they were picking on her. Are there pix of her in the inappropriate outfits?

And it is not the same thing. Someone who is fired for being obese is being targeted for something they can't help. Wearing tops that showcase your tits or skirts/pants that display your ass CAN be helped- dress differently instead of whining about it when called on it.

If boxy suits do it, wear them and do your damn job.

chocolate1 said:

If boxy suits do it, wear them and do your damn job.

natural beauty/magnetism, murked by haters

chocolate1 said:

JustErin said:

But I think that's her whole point, she isn't dressing different that anyone else. She was told not to wear turtlenecks, ffs.

From her video she looks totally professional, and her clothes fit. They were not too tight. If indeed that was how she was dressing and they felt it was inappropriate, I agree with her, they are wrong.

It would be like telling a morbidly obese person that wearing a skirt and showing some calf is inappropriate because of their body type (and everyone else is wearing skirts in the meantime).

I do think that if it was a case of a obese person being put out of the way because of their body, people would be totally pissed. And they certainly wouldn't be making jokes about saying she should go into porn (which is just a form of sexual harassment itself) like they have with this chick.

I honestly don't see this as any different.

If it wasn't her work performance, if it was indeed her attire (while she adhered to the dress code) I think she it totally right - they do have a problem with her appearing too sexy (in their eyes) and I see no wrong in her saying that's what she feels it is. She certainly doesn't deserve all the cruel comments she's getting for stating what very well might be fact.

OF COURSE she's not going to appear in her own defense wearing what she got in trouble for- she has to try to win sympathy by acting (and looking) like they were picking on her. Are there pix of her in the inappropriate outfits?

And it is not the same thing. Someone who is fired for being obese is being targeted for something they can't help. Wearing tops that showcase your tits or skirts/pants that display your ass CAN be helped- dress differently instead of whining about it when called on it.

If boxy suits do it, wear them and do your damn job.

But it is the same if the rules apply to some and not to others. You can't do that.

You see it as "showcasing" (as do others) and I think that is where the real problem lies.

Maybe she's not being honest about what she was wearing...I dunno...but if she is being honest, Citi is totally in the wrong.

Cinnie said:

chocolate1 said:

If boxy suits do it, wear them and do your damn job.

natural beauty/magnetism, murked by haters

But don't forget, these rules only apply to some people, not all.

If you want your female staff to all dress exactly the same, make them wear uniforms, I guess.

Cinnie said:

chocolate1 said:

If boxy suits do it, wear them and do your damn job.

natural beauty/magnetism, murked by haters

Cinnie, honey...

SHE should hate on ME.

I have am sexy with a bangin' shape, AND know how to dress appropriately in the workplace*...

*Boxy suit, plain dress, loose skirts/pants by day; Booty-huggin' oh-hell-yes outfits to go out...

The key is to know the difference.

JustErin said:

chocolate1 said:

OF COURSE she's not going to appear in her own defense wearing what she got in trouble for- she has to try to win sympathy by acting (and looking) like they were picking on her. Are there pix of her in the inappropriate outfits?

And it is not the same thing. Someone who is fired for being obese is being targeted for something they can't help. Wearing tops that showcase your tits or skirts/pants that display your ass CAN be helped- dress differently instead of whining about it when called on it.

If boxy suits do it, wear them and do your damn job.

But it is the same if the rules apply to some and not to others. You can't do that.

You see it as "showcasing" (as do others) and I think that is where the real problem lies.

Maybe she's not being honest about what she was wearing...I dunno...but if she is being honest, Citi is totally in the wrong.

chocolate1 said:

Cinnie said:

natural beauty/magnetism, murked by haters

Cinnie, honey...

SHE should hate on ME.

I have am sexy with a bangin' shape, AND know how to dress appropriately in the workplace*...

*Boxy suit, plain dress, loose skirts/pants by day; Booty-huggin' oh-hell-yes outfits to go out...

The key is to know the difference.

Cinnie said:

JustErin said:

But it is the same if the rules apply to some and not to others. You can't do that.

You see it as "showcasing" (as do others) and I think that is where the real problem lies.

Maybe she's not being honest about what she was wearing...I dunno...but if she is being honest, Citi is totally in the wrong.

And the key word there is IF. It's word against word.

chocolate1 said:

Cinnie said:

And the key word there is IF. It's word against word.

For sure.

...but it certainly seems like the popular opinion is that she's full of shit, and is just an attention seeking egotistical whore that should be doing something like porn instead (cuz you know, that's the only thing really attractive women with kick ass bodies should really be doing).

JustErin said:

chocolate1 said:

Why wouldn't everyone have the same rules? I'm sure there isn't a "dress code for shapely women" and a "dress code for the others". That's where common sense comes in. If she- or anyone else- puts on something and it doesn't look professional because of the way it fits, DON'T WEAR IT TO WORK. Everything doesn't fit everyone the same way, so we can't wear everything everywhere.

But I think that's her whole point, she isn't dressing different that anyone else. She was told not to wear turtlenecks, ffs.

From her video she looks totally professional, and her clothes fit. They were not too tight. If indeed that was how she was dressing and they felt it was inappropriate, I agree with her, they are wrong.

It would be like telling a morbidly obese person that wearing a skirt and showing some calf is inappropriate because of their body type (and everyone else is wearing skirts in the meantime).

I do think that if it was a case of a obese person being put out of the way because of their body, people would be totally pissed. And they certainly wouldn't be making jokes about saying she should go into porn (which is just a form of sexual harassment itself) like they have with this chick.

I honestly don't see this as any different.

If it wasn't her work performance, if it was indeed her attire (while she adhered to the dress code) I think she it totally right - they do have a problem with her appearing too sexy (in their eyes) and I see no wrong in her saying that's what she feels it is. She certainly doesn't deserve all the cruel comments she's getting for stating what very well might be fact.

I agree with all this. In principle, this is all spot-on. Now about the woman in question, it just depends if she's being entirely honest, but regardless of that, you hit the nail on the head re the double-standard and I bet it goes on a lot.