It's just hard to believe it's as simple as what she's saying, when studies have shown that good looking people are unfairly treated...treated better, that is. They get paid more, hired more.

ThreadCula said:

There has to be more to the story. Did they provide a list of what she should wear?

Everyone cant wear the same type of clothing.

And some people confuse clothes with fitting and fitting right

My boyfriend's cousin has a big belly,big boobs and the skinniest legs ever. She doesnt wear the proper bra and her shirts ride up. It drives me nuts. But I dont say anything cuz I dont buy her clothes.

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In her interview she looked perfectly appropriately dressed for an office.

And she is indeed hot, no matter what she wears.

NDRU said:

It's just hard to believe it's as simple as what she's saying, when studies have shown that good looking people are unfairly treated...treated better, that is. They get paid more, hired more.

But she said she's amongst fatties. She's the black sheep

Damn it all hell edit

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NDRU said:

It's just hard to believe it's as simple as what she's saying, when studies have shown that good looking people are unfairly treated...treated better, that is. They get paid more, hired more.

If you were an even fairly attractive woman working with a bunch of not so attractive women, you would totally see how this can lead to a shitty work experience.

You avoid this problem by only hiring hot people!

But shucks, people complain about that too.

Dave1992 said:

FauxReal said:

Just watched her interview on CNN.com. Her outfit (that one at least) didn't look inappropriate at all. Attractive, yes, but nothing extreme. If that was at all indicative of what she actually wore, then its pretty shitty to be fired for it, if that is indeed why they fired her.

And her lawyer looks like a toad.
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Link!

Can we stop talking about ethics and discrimination at work because of someone's physical appearance for a minute?

Let's all just sit back and appreaciate that body of a godess, shall we?

Citibank says:

Ms. Lorenzana has chosen to make numerous unfounded accusations and inaccurate statements against Citibank and several of our employees. While we will not discuss the details of her case, we can say that her termination was solely performance-based and not at all related to her appearance or attire. We are confident that when all of the facts and documentation are presented, the claim will be dismissed.

Who knows?

FauxReal said:

Dave1992 said:

Link!

http://www.cnn.com/video/...abc?hpt=T2

Genesia said:

Citibank says:

Ms. Lorenzana has chosen to make numerous unfounded accusations and inaccurate statements against Citibank and several of our employees. While we will not discuss the details of her case, we can say that her termination was solely performance-based and not at all related to her appearance or attire. We are confident that when all of the facts and documentation are presented, the claim will be dismissed.

Who knows?

Who cares?

Genesia said:

Citibank says:

Ms. Lorenzana has chosen to make numerous unfounded accusations and inaccurate statements against Citibank and several of our employees. While we will not discuss the details of her case, we can say that her termination was solely performance-based and not at all related to her appearance or attire. We are confident that when all of the facts and documentation are presented, the claim will be dismissed.

Who knows?

Well, of course they're going to say that. Hopefully it's true and she was canned not for having great cans but because she was a shitty employee that needed to get her can kicked out to the curb.

However, it is totally plausible that she was being harassed and was simply trying to do her job and this was their retaliation for her complaining about the harassment she was receiving.

I mean, come on…you’re a woman. You know how much women get harassed.

JustErin said:

ThreadCula said:

There has to be more to the story. Did they provide a list of what she should wear?

Everyone cant wear the same type of clothing.

And some people confuse clothes with fitting and fitting right

My boyfriend's cousin has a big belly,big boobs and the skinniest legs ever. She doesnt wear the proper bra and her shirts ride up. It drives me nuts. But I dont say anything cuz I dont buy her clothes.

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In her interview she looked perfectly appropriately dressed for an office.

And she is indeed hot, no matter what she wears.

I cant see the video here. I saw the cbsnews article.

She has a nice body. And her clothes look fine. I want to see the person that fired her.

JustErin said:

NDRU said:

It's just hard to believe it's as simple as what she's saying, when studies have shown that good looking people are unfairly treated...treated better, that is. They get paid more, hired more.

If you were an even fairly attractive woman working with a bunch of not so attractive women, you would totally see how this can lead to a shitty work experience.

You avoid this problem by only hiring hot people!

But shucks, people complain about that too.

I can see that--nasty looks & petty comments--but unless those ugly women hired her they probably can't fire her. And if they were the ones who hired & fired, then the unattractive women who were going to have problems with her hotness would have had problems with it during her interview & probably not hired her in the first place.

My guess is she was hired because she was hot, then was a bad and unprofessional worker and fired for it

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ThreadCula said:

JustErin said:

In her interview she looked perfectly appropriately dressed for an office.

And she is indeed hot, no matter what she wears.

I cant see the video here. I saw the cbsnews article.

She has a nice body. And her clothes look fine. I want to see the person that fired her.

NDRU said:

JustErin said:

If you were an even fairly attractive woman working with a bunch of not so attractive women, you would totally see how this can lead to a shitty work experience.

You avoid this problem by only hiring hot people!

But shucks, people complain about that too.

I can see that--nasty looks & petty comments--but unless those ugly women hired her they probably can't fire her. And if they were the ones who hired & fired, then the unattractive women who were going to have problems with her hotness would have had problems with it during her interview & probably not hired her in the first place.

My guess is she was hired because she was hot, then was a bad and unprofessional worker and fired for it

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Wait a second...who said she was hired by a woman? All it takes is a bunch of co-workers putting pressure on the boss....

but not having worked with her the only thing we can do is speculate

of course she dressed professional in her interview! you think her lawyer would let her go out rocking a slutty look?

All I know is I've worked with plenty of beautiful women and plenty of unprofessional women, and it is not their beauty that gets them in trouble--except perhaps personal issues of jealousy & sexual harassment. But nobody is complaining that a good, qualified, professionally dressed employee is just too beautiful! That's ridiculous.

NDRU said:

but not having worked with her the only thing we can do is speculate

of course she dressed professional in her interview! you think her lawyer would let her go out rocking a slutty look?

All I know is I've worked with plenty of beautiful women and plenty of unprofessional women, and it is not their beauty that gets them in trouble--except perhaps personal issues of jealousy & sexual harassment. But nobody is complaining that a good, qualified, professionally dressed employee is just too beautiful! That's ridiculous.

Of course no one will admit to that being the reason for letting someone go, but you're being naive if you think that it doesn't actually happen.

JustErin said:

NDRU said:

I can see that--nasty looks & petty comments--but unless those ugly women hired her they probably can't fire her. And if they were the ones who hired & fired, then the unattractive women who were going to have problems with her hotness would have had problems with it during her interview & probably not hired her in the first place.

My guess is she was hired because she was hot, then was a bad and unprofessional worker and fired for it

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Wait a second...who said she was hired by a woman? All it takes is a bunch of co-workers putting pressure on the boss....

I didn't say she was, either, but I don't think their complaints would amount to much if she's pleasant, professional, qualified

more than that, they might actually like her! Ugly women are actually capable of liking beautiful women if the beautiful woman is nice & easy to work with.

Not all women are blinded by their jealousy. Those jealous complaining women would be the exception, not the rule, if this woman was acting & dressing appropriately.

JustErin said:

NDRU said:

but not having worked with her the only thing we can do is speculate

of course she dressed professional in her interview! you think her lawyer would let her go out rocking a slutty look?

All I know is I've worked with plenty of beautiful women and plenty of unprofessional women, and it is not their beauty that gets them in trouble--except perhaps personal issues of jealousy & sexual harassment. But nobody is complaining that a good, qualified, professionally dressed employee is just too beautiful! That's ridiculous.

Of course no one will admit to that being the reason for letting someone go, but you're being naive if you think that it doesn't actually happen.

I do believe it happens, but more often it would be a case of an obsessed boss, not a good employee who just happens to be beautiful.

This could be the case with her, and she'd be entitled to sue, but her comments about gaining weight & being "too good looking" & "not being able to help it" make question her. Some wome actually do dress & act inappropriately and YOU'D be naive to think that doesn't happen, so there!

JustErin said:

Genesia said:

Citibank says:

Ms. Lorenzana has chosen to make numerous unfounded accusations and inaccurate statements against Citibank and several of our employees. While we will not discuss the details of her case, we can say that her termination was solely performance-based and not at all related to her appearance or attire. We are confident that when all of the facts and documentation are presented, the claim will be dismissed.

Who knows?

Well, of course they're going to say that. Hopefully it's true and she was canned not for having great cans but because she was a shitty employee that needed to get her can kicked out to the curb.

However, it is totally plausible that she was being harassed and was simply trying to do her job and this was their retaliation for her complaining about the harassment she was receiving.

I mean, come on…you’re a woman. You know how much women get harassed.

I have been harassed exactly twice in my 25-year professional life. Once by a boss who made a crude comment about me in front of some other people (but did not come on to me - though he was abusive in other ways toward everyone who worked for him - male and female). And once by a boss who actually came on to me, took no for an answer, apologized, and said it wouldn't happen again. He left the organization shortly after that for other reasons.

And I honestly don't know any other women who've been systematically harassed. My friends and I have all worked in male-dominated professions without any problems, to speak of. Then again, we've all been careful about how we acted and dressed at work.

NDRU said:

JustErin said:

Wait a second...who said she was hired by a woman? All it takes is a bunch of co-workers putting pressure on the boss....

I didn't say she was, either, but I don't think their complaints would amount to much if she's pleasant, professional, qualified

more than that, they might actually like her! Ugly women are actually capable of liking beautiful women if the beautiful woman is nice & easy to work with.

Not all women are blinded by their jealousy. Those jealous complaining women would be the exception, not the rule, if this woman was acting & dressing appropriately.

I didn't say all women were.

But we all know that all it takes sometimes is a few loudmouths to fuck it all up.

NDRU said:

JustErin said:

Of course no one will admit to that being the reason for letting someone go, but you're being naive if you think that it doesn't actually happen.

I do believe it happens, but more often it would be a case of an obsessed boss, not a good employee who just happens to be beautiful.

This could be the case with her, and she'd be entitled to sue, but her comments about gaining weight & being "too good looking" & "not being able to help it" make question her. Some wome actually do dress & act inappropriately and YOU'D be naive to think that doesn't happen, so there!

Genesia said:

JustErin said:

Well, of course they're going to say that. Hopefully it's true and she was canned not for having great cans but because she was a shitty employee that needed to get her can kicked out to the curb.

However, it is totally plausible that she was being harassed and was simply trying to do her job and this was their retaliation for her complaining about the harassment she was receiving.

I mean, come on…you’re a woman. You know how much women get harassed.

I have been harassed exactly twice in my 25-year professional life. Once by a boss who made a crude comment about me in front of some other people (but did not come on to me - though he was abusive in other ways toward everyone who worked for him - male and female). And once by a boss who actually came on to me, took no for an answer, apologized, and said it wouldn't happen again. He left the organization shortly after that for other reasons.

And I honestly don't know any other women who've been systematically harassed. My friends and I have all worked in male-dominated professions without any problems, to speak of. Then again, we've all been careful about how we acted and dressed at work.

I've been harassed by several male bosses and several male co-workers. I've also seen jealous bitchface co-workers go to it first hand - with eachother.

JustErin said:

Genesia said:

I have been harassed exactly twice in my 25-year professional life. Once by a boss who made a crude comment about me in front of some other people (but did not come on to me - though he was abusive in other ways toward everyone who worked for him - male and female). And once by a boss who actually came on to me, took no for an answer, apologized, and said it wouldn't happen again. He left the organization shortly after that for other reasons.

And I honestly don't know any other women who've been systematically harassed. My friends and I have all worked in male-dominated professions without any problems, to speak of. Then again, we've all been careful about how we acted and dressed at work.

I've been harassed by several male bosses and several male co-workers. I've also seen jealous bitchface co-workers go to it first hand - with eachother.

= "I'm simply more attractive than you, bitch"

Dave1992 said:

JustErin said:

I've been harassed by several male bosses and several male co-workers. I've also seen jealous bitchface co-workers go to it first hand - with eachother.

= "I'm simply more attractive than you, bitch"

I would like to make it crystal clear that I did not take it that way.

Genesia said:

Dave1992 said:

= "I'm simply more attractive than you, bitch"

I would like to make it crystal clear that I did not take it that way.

Hey, I wasn't saying it was me that was involved in any way. I just like to sit back and watch the fur fly! Bitches can be ruthless, I tell ya!

Is this an example of the kind of outfit she'd wear to work? Because I think that top is far too lowcut to wear in a professional setting, I don't care if you're bigbusted or small.

I watched the video linked upthread - her lawyer wants to bang her, you can tell. His eye bags even had erections.

I'm too sexy for my job, too sexy for my job....:sing:

RubyButterfly said:

Is this an example of the kind of outfit she'd wear to work? Because I think that top is far too lowcut to wear in a professional setting, I don't care if you're bigbusted or small.

I watched the video linked upthread - her lawyer wants to bang her, you can tell. His eye bags even had erections.

RubyButterfly said:

Is this an example of the kind of outfit she'd wear to work? Because I think that top is far too lowcut to wear in a professional setting, I don't care if you're bigbusted or small.

I watched the video linked upthread - her lawyer wants to bang her, you can tell. His eye bags even had erections.

Maybe she's slipping him some on the side.

Dave1992 said:

FauxReal said:

http://www.cnn.com/video/...abc?hpt=T2

Absolutely fantastic looking woman. I even love her voice. Marry me. Yeah, that's right. Marry me.

I sense desperation here.....Don't you wanna get to know her first?