paintedlady said:

noimageatall said:

Co-sign.
Commitment would be ideal but I no longer expect it. People are too self-centered.

Cerebus said:

The voice of reason.

I want to pose some peaceful questions to those who are taking place in this discussion. To everyone who has been hurt or feels they've been slighted in a marriage. Would money make you feel better? Would it take away the pain? Would it make you OK with your failed marriage? Because that seems to be where some people are coming from and that's really not what marriage settlements are about. They're about maintaining lifestyle and taking care of children. If all you were in a marriage for is money then you had it wrong to begin with. Unfortunately I think some judges, as I said before, are taking it too far, using these settlements to try to heal emotional scars. Even more unfortunate, a vast majority of the time it's women receiving alimony and large settlements. .....reason number 759 to never get married.

noimageatall said:

please you already see how shes being treated by orgers on here, Can you imagine the hate if she was out there getting some on the side?

paintedlady said:

How do we know what her lawyers feel? Their fee can't be a contingent one, maybe they just want to create more billable hours by going back and forth over the figures.
I can't see a judge agreeing that she should be awarded $750 million.

SUPRMAN said:

I think its just a courtroom tactic to ask for that amount. I would be shocked if she were awarded any thing near that. IF that is what she is really asking for, I truly believe its because her lawyers are scrambling for a fat percentage. They want boats and fancy cars too.

uPtoWnNY said:

Thanks. But I think it some cases I'm talking to a very large, very solid, near unmovable concrete wall. S'a'ight. Tis' the way of the world. And that's why we continue to fail as a species.

paintedlady said:

Agreed.

Yes, lawyers definitely want to get the biggest and the best for their clients so they can wear it like a badge of honor. If they get her a huge settlement, regardless of what percentage is theirs, they'll have future clients coming to them for as long as they choose to continuing practicing law.

Paul McCartney was ordered to give Heather Mills somewhere around $50 million, as I recall. I think it's safe to say they're going to smash that amount. There was also a bigger one, like, $250 million I think. But I can't remember who it was or what the circumstances were.
[Edited 5/25/10 11:14am]

Cerebus said:

Money never makes pain go away, or makes things "better", but money does make life easier.
I don't think any woman should ruin a man's life, but in this situation, Tiger put himself at risk. This is something he should have not done knowing his worth. Men with that kind of money are usually much more cautious. Tiger should have for seen this, or had someone in his camp to advise him from becoming so vulnerable.
[Edited 5/25/10 11:15am]

lazycrockett said:

She'd already be burnt at the stake.

lazycrockett said:

Yeah...and I was responding to a blanket statement that went beyond Tiger and Elin, so I'm not sure what your point is.

SUPRMAN said:

The extraordinary asking amount is a dead giveaway to me.

paintedlady said:

I'm really not trying to be a dick about this, but I don't believe anyone's life should be made any easier than it was before a divorce by a monetary settlement and/or alimony. It's just something I feel very strongly about. As far as Tiger being cautious, like I said way back in my first post, I'll be shocked if there isn't some kind of prenupt involved in this case.

On a slightly more philosophical bent, I don't believe Tiger should have, or should be, anything other than what he is. Maybe he should have been more aware of his true self before he got married and had kids. That would certainly have been the most effective way to not hurt anybody. As far as putting himself at risk goes, I think he knew exactly what he was doing at all times. And I'm pretty sure that VERY few people "in his camp" had any idea how far this was going.

Lastly, I don't know about men with that kind of money (and perceived power) being more cautious. There's a pretty long list of men with that kind of money (and perceived power) making exactly the same mistakes as Tiger.

"She's already been burnt at the stake" OMG some of you are silly and dramatic. Let's make this really simple. If you cheated on your husband and he asked for 3/4 of your reported worth in the divorce settlement, what would your reaction be? I think most of us are trying to discuss this in a calm, rational way. There's actually some good stuff in here, really. But the "Women's Club" will never be broken. A woman scorned will always have another group of man-hating women behind her screaming, "yeah! break his balls!" ....reason 760 to never get married.

Cerebus said:

Divorce News & Articles
Largest Divorce Verdict in U.S. History
We thought Michael Jordan's divorce from wife Juanita was going to make history as the most expensive at a reported pending $150 million settlement, but the Polsky divorce in Cook County, Illinois has just topped that by $34 million.

On June 4, Cook County Circuit Judge William Boyd, who had previously awarded Maya Polsky a divorce settlement of $176 million from her energy industry magnate husband Michael Polsky, announced that he had reconsidered his ruling. Boyd raised the settlement amount to a whopping $184 million. Michael Polsky has got to be steamed over this new ruling, because his attorneys had asked Judge Boyd to reconsider his prior ruling and reduce the award but instead he added $8 million. If this ruling stands it will be the largest divorce verdict in U.S. history.

Celebrity divorce settlements are commonly large, and sometimes larger if the marriage sustained for longer than a few years. The Michael and Juanita Jordan divorce is not the only instance in which the spouse of a celebrity has walked away with millions. Steven Spielberg, who split from wife Amy Irving in 1989, paid her a reported $100 million in their divorce settlement. Irving successfully contested their pre-nuptial agreement because it was reportedly scribbled on a napkin without the advice of an attorney. Neil Diamond and Marcia Murphey divorced in 1994 after 25 years of marriage. Diamond paid Murphey a reported $150 million in their divorce settlement and is quoted as saying she's "worth every penny". Obviously not everyone feels that way about his or her ex-spouse.

The Polskys are not celebrities. They were married in 1975 in the then Soviet Union, and shortly thereafter emigrated to the U.S. with four suitcases and about $500 to their names. Mrs. Polsky was pregnant with their first child when they arrived in the states. The couple separated in 2002 and in 2003 Mrs. Polsky filed for divorce citing irreconcilable differences.

As an engineer, Mr. Polsky made his fortune in the energy business and currently heads Invenergy LLC. Mrs. Polsky stayed at home and cared for the couple's two sons during the marriage and several years ago opened the Maya Polsky Gallery.

Maya Polsky's lawyer, Howard Rosenfeld, says that the settlement is fair because it is an even distribution of the couple's assets and that as a wife Mrs. Polsky provided emotional support for her husband and was his confidante. He had asked the judge to award Mrs. Polsky more than 50% of the estate because of Mr. Polsky's ability to continue earning more money in the future, but is happy with the 50/50 split.

Michael Polsky's attorney argues that the settlement is grossly unfair because Maya Polsky was not a driving force in the business and did nothing to help develop it and build the wealth that Mr. Polsky accumulated during the marriage.

The award is groundbreaking and remarkable not only because of the huge amount of the award, but also because it clearly sends the message that marriage is a partnership. Mega-million dollar estates are not commonly split evenly between the wealth building spouse and the homemaker.
http://www.totaldivorce.c...ement.aspx


NUMBER 4
Neil Diamond & Marcia Murphey -- $150 million
A crooner beloved the world over, Neil Diamond has known success since the '60s with his own brand of easy listening classics. Throughout the '70s, he set new world records in record sales and concert attendance. During his career, which has spanned four decades, Diamond has sold more than 100 million records worldwide. When he met the woman who would share his life for 25 years, he was already married to wife number one.

Apparently, Diamond went out for cigarettes in November 1969 and never came back. Three weeks later, he had divorced and married TV producer Marcia Murphey. Following rumors of extramarital activities on Diamond's part in 1994, she moved to Splitsville, citing the popular "irreconcilable differences." The divorce was settled for $150 million, half his fortune. The singer claims he cheerfully gave her the money (she's "worth every penny") and that she deserved it for having bore him wonderful children.
NUMBER 3
Craig & Wendy McCaw -- (more than) $460 million
Craig McCaw got steady on his feet by turning a failing television cable service he had inherited from his father into a successful business, eventually selling for $755 million. In 1981, he proved to be a visionary by acquiring cellular phone licenses. He eventually sold his company to AT&T for approximately $12 billion, becoming the telecommunications giant's largest single shareholder.

McCaw met Wendy when she tutored him at Stanford University and they married in 1974. In 1995, divorce proceedings were initiated and Wendy wanted her share to support her nearly $200,000/month lifestyle. She ultimately walked away with $460 million, mostly all in Nextel stock.
NUMBER 2
Adnan & Soraya Khashoggi -- $874 million
Adnan Khashoggi is a Saudi businessman who made his money as an international arms dealer for the Saudi royal family. He then launched his company Triad, based in Switzerland, owning banks, hotels and real estate all over the world.

In 1986, his fortune was estimated at $4 billion but a decade later it was estimated that he had lost most of it due to dwindling oil prices. He married Soraya in 1961 and their jet-setting lifestyle favored a string of adulterous lovers for both of them. Their 1982 divorce netted her an estimated $874 million in an out-of-court settlement, although numbers vary according to sources.


NUMBER 1
Rupert & Anna Murdoch -- $1.7 billion
One of the richest men in the world, Rupert Murdoch developed his worldwide media empire when he inherited his father's Australian newspaper in 1952. He married Anna Murdoch in the '60s and they remained together for 32 years, springing off three children.

They split amicably in 1998 but soon Rupert forced Anna off the board of News Corp and the gloves came off. The divorce was finalized in June 1999 when Rupert agreed to let his ex-wife leave with $1.7 billion worth of his assets, $110 million of it in cash. Seventeen days later, Rupert married Wendi Deng, one of his employees.
DON'T GET TAKEN TO THE CLEANERS
Having written such an article, I expect the American Bar Association to send me a very generous check. After all, didn't I just pen the greatest advertising for prenuptial agreements? With this kind of money up for grabs, romance must be sidestepped for a moment and all men should definitely equip themselves with an ironclad prenup.

http://www.askmen.com/top..._list.html

noimageatall said:

Who cares if she is getting some on the side?
I doubt she's an angel despite [deleted]. (Which isn't to say she is or isn't. I don't care. I still don't think she deserved the $750 million.)

Cool. Thanks for finding that and posting. It speaks volumes on a point I made last night. Divorce settlements are usually based largely on income and worth accrued DURING the marriage. Not on a person's net worth. In many of the cases you posted the couples had been together for many, MANY years and earned that money together. Not the case for Tiger and Elin.

Cerebus said:

If I were the judge I'd tell Tiger to break her off $150 million and let's go home.

SUPRMAN said:

I don't like it when we agree

It's a high price for silence.

Wronged wife Elin Nordegren is trying to club an eye-popping $750 million out of Tiger Woods in their divorce negotiations, according to reports Friday.

Woods hasn't agreed yet, but if he does he wants total silence from his soon-to-be ex about the collapse of their marriage - forever, according to the Chicago Sun-Times.

Nordegren has so far said no to signing a lifetime "confidentiality clause" that would prevent her from writing a book or doing any interviews about the split.

She reportedly also wants full custody of their two kids even though it was first thought the couple were going to agree to joint custody.

Sources said the divorce negotiations "have turned extremely testy" and the couple no longer talk to each other.

Nordegren has spent a lot of time away from Woods in recent months. She went to Arizona alone for nearly a week recently and took the kids to Sweden while Woods played golf.

Woods, meanwhile, is hanging out in Florida with a blond woman, who looks a lot like Elin, RadarOnline reported.

http://www.nydailynews.co..._750m.html

I'm guessing she wasn't in Arizona to protest SB 1070.

Cerebus said:

Well that makes two groups...the woman-hating group is alive and well on the org. She's already been called a skanky ho, a golddigga, etc., and she hasn't done a thing. I'm quite sure if Tiger had an inkling she had cheated it would be all over TMZ right now. Her lawyers asked for the settlement.

noimageatall said:

I said when I first joined this thread that I wasn't going to read all the comments. Too bad she's been called anything derogatory as I'm not sure she deserves that. But asking for $750 million definitely raises some questions regarding motive.

You're sure if TIGER had an inkling she had cheated it would be all over TMZ right now? Why do you think that? Has Tiger seemed overly forthcoming with information regarding ANY PART of his personal life during this process? You're making my point for me by saying things like that.

Her lawyers asked for the settlement. ...ummmm, exactly!

Cerebus said:

Oh, believe me, Tiger's lawyers would have had it plastered all over the media if she'd been cheating too. Which is probably why he's being so damned quiet.

So basically all you fellas getting steamed under the collar about divorce settlements to wives have no one to blame but your own kind! Men make these laws and with good reason (as well as long term value/consequence). I bet many a family legacy has been built on and supported by a hefty divorce settlement. In the end,,,,the money stays in the family.
[Edited 5/25/10 12:13pm]

Cerebus said:

And I'm exiting this one before it turns into a MJ/Tiger part 12 thread.

What happens if Tiger and Elin can never agree on things like the settlement amount, the confidentiality clause, and child custody?

Is there a trial or hearing? Does a judge finally enter what he/she decides is equitable?

RodeoSchro said:

This is what they should do, and avoid a messy court battle:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...rbitration