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Thread started 04/03/10 8:11pm

DesireeNevermi
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ROY JONES IS STILL BOXING? SAY WHA????

Et Tu Bernard?

When are these old coots gonna sit their asses down!!!



They are both in their 40s. They couldn't have possibly spent up all their money already. It's been 17 years damn!
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Reply #1 posted 04/03/10 8:23pm

purplewisdom

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watchin it now...
"Dead in the middle of Little Italy little did we know
that we riddled some middleman who didn't do diddily"--BP
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Reply #2 posted 04/03/10 8:25pm

FauxReal

I mean, if you call making your own ninja-like sound effects while feinting for 3 minutes "boxing"...yeah he still does.
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Reply #3 posted 04/03/10 8:30pm

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purplewisdom said:

watchin it now...



word? who's whuppin who?
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Reply #4 posted 04/03/10 8:46pm

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after round 2..hops 20-18

Hmmmm...nothing exciting.
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that we riddled some middleman who didn't do diddily"--BP
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Reply #5 posted 04/03/10 9:57pm

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HOPKINS DOMINATES RELUCTANT ROY IN FOULFEST
By G. Leon

Bernard Hopkins UD12 Roy Jones Jr: After 17 years of waiting to get their hands on each other, future hall of famers Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr didn't really seem too anxious to damage each other or inflict any serious damage to one another. There were more feints and cliches than meaningful punches landed through the first four rounds. In round 5 Jones scored several times, having his best round of the fight to that point, but still probably didn't do enough to win the round. With 10 seconds to go in round six Bernard Hopkins went crashing into the canvas after Roy Jones Jr landed a right hand behind his head that prompted referee Tony Weeks to deduct a point from Jones 2 minutes later. Hopkins furiously attacked when the action resumed and both fighters exchanged several blows well after the bell. Near the end of round eight Hopkins hit Jones with a rabbit punch and Jones retailiated. Forty Five seconds into round 10 Weeks awarded Hopkins 5 minutes to recover from an accidental low blow, marking the third time he went to the canvas in four rounds from what commentator Doug Fischer described as "theatrics." In round 11 Hopkins accidentally butted Jones opening up a nasty gash over his left eyelid. While Hopkins pitched a shutout and managed to control the action throughout, Jones was never in serious danger of being stopped and was able to avoid the damage Hopkins vowed to inflict on him.



Round 1: Bernard Hopkins
Round 2: Bernard Hopkins (RJJ cut from accidental butt)
Round 3: Bernard Hopkins
Round 4: Bernard Hopkins
ROund 5: Bernard Hopkins
Round 6: Bernard Hopkins (best round of fight great last 15 seconds)
Round 7: Bernard Hopkins (close round)
Round 8: Bernard Hopkins
Round 9: Bernard Hopkins (close round)
Round 10:Bernard Hopkins
Round 11:Bernard Hopkins
Round 12:Bernard Hopkins

Boxingtalk's Score: 120-107
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Reply #6 posted 04/03/10 11:12pm

Timmy84

Well I knew Hopkins was gonna win. Roy Jones is too old. He avoided B. Hop so he wouldn't get knocked the fuck out. Punk ass. lol
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Reply #7 posted 04/05/10 12:03pm

DesireeNevermi
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I thought Hopkins was older than Jones. confuse I still can't believe this took 17 years to happen. Poor Roy. He was the man back in the day. Best boxers IMO are Ali, Forman, Tyson and Jones.
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Reply #8 posted 04/05/10 7:11pm

Timmy84

DesireeNevermind said:

I thought Hopkins was older than Jones. confuse I still can't believe this took 17 years to happen. Poor Roy. He was the man back in the day. Best boxers IMO are Ali, Forman, Tyson and Jones.


Bernard is older, about four years older, I think he turned 45 recently. Roy's 41. I meant in a way where too many punches to the head and his nature for thinking he could still be the same person he was 10 years ago, makes him seem older than B. Hop. lol Hopkins hasn't got his head punched in too many times.
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Reply #9 posted 04/05/10 8:48pm

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Roy Jones should have quit after he got his ass handed to him by Danny Green a little while back
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Reply #10 posted 04/05/10 8:51pm

DesireeNevermi
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I hate to say this but...

Roy just don't got it no more! pimp grandpa
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Reply #11 posted 04/05/10 8:58pm

Timmy84

kcwm said:

Roy Jones should have quit after he got his ass handed to him by Danny Green a little while back


Stupid ass tried contesting it too for some reason. I remember laughing when Roy got knocked out by Glenn Johnson a while back. lol
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Reply #12 posted 04/09/10 9:20am

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now here is the real sad part..

Roy Jones Jr. Made No Money for Last Weekend's Fight

As you probably have already heard, Saturday's PPV fight between Roy Jones Jr. and Bernard Hopkins was not a live success in Las Vegas. Almost anybody could have predicted that would be the case. Dan Rafael of ESPN.com said that the attendance was reported as 6,792, and that that wasn't paid in full:

The media coverage and fan reaction were overwhelmingly negative, and only 6,792 people showed up at Mandalay Bay to watch the fight, despite the availability of deeply discounted or even free tickets.

Yahoo! Sports columnist Kevin Iole also broke down the financial situation for the fighters:

The sad thing about the fight is that Jones won’t make anything. Let’s assume for a second that the 6,792 in the building actually paid for their seats (we know that’s not true) and that the seats averaged $300 a ticket (a figure higher than reality). That would mean the gate was $2 million. If the expenses to rent the building and promote the fight were $1 million, that means $1 million is left. Now, let’s figure it sold 100,000 pay-per-views at $49.95 apiece. That’s about $5 million. They have to split 50 percent of that with the cable and satellite operators, so that leaves $2.498 million for themselves. Add the $1 million from the gate and the $2.498 million from the pay-per-view and you have $3.498 million in profit. Given that the contract called for the first $3.5 million in profit to go to Hopkins and Golden Boy, it’s almost certain Jones fought for nothing. Actual revenue will likely be far less than I’ve described above.

Part of me finds this incredibly sad. I'm a Roy Jones fan. I admit the man has absolutely nothing left in the tank whatsoever. I was able to pump myself up one final time, figuring that against his rival, anything in reserves might come out of him for this one night. It didn't happen. He was awful. He wasn't even the faded Roy Jones of recent years.

Now, he's not even going to make any money, and if he does, it will be peanuts. There are a few ways to look at this. First, you have to give credit, whether it seems "fair" or not, to Bernard Hopkins and Golden Boy Promotions. The first $3.5 million going to Hopkins and Golden Boy, when $3.5 million was no guarantee for this fight at all, is a shrewd business move. Jones and his people clearly lost the battle at the negotiating table on that one, perhaps because they were delusional enough to grossly overestimate public demand for this fight.

Let's say Jones had beaten Danny Green in December and this fight had happened with both coming off of wins. Would it have been that much different? Neither man has sold a fight in a long time. Their last major PPV appearances in 2008, promoted by HBO, were flops (Hopkins-Pavlik and Jones-Calzaghe). Hopkins, frankly, has never been a major star. Jones was a bigger star, but was never a crossover, big-selling guy like Oscar de la Hoya or the last few years of Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s career.

The talk was already there that it was way too late for anyone to really care about a Jones-Hopkins rematch. I think they'd have done a bit better. For one thing, HBO would have promoted the fight, at least a little, and that would have helped. For another thing, Jones wouldn't have been just stopped in a round by a guy from Australia who has no name value in the States. Even among the American diehards, those who know much about Danny Green don't turn up in significant numbers.

There's a chance they did better than 100,000 on pay-per-view, but I don't think it's much of a chance at this point. My very high-end estimate was 250,000 buys, and I conceded that it could easily have been half of that. So let's even say they did 125K or 150K. Jones still makes almost nothing for the fight. Bottom line is if this was Roy's way of making it to the bank with a smile one final time, it's not happening.

Cold, hard facts are what both men need to face: it's over. I don't think there's a single fight Hopkins can make right now where the risk outweighs the "reward." The two fights people talk about are Chad Dawson and David Haye. Does anyone who watched Hopkins on Saturday think he can beat either of them? He's too small for Haye, whose power is entirely legit at the heavyweight level, and who is a faster, bigger, stronger athlete, and oh yeah, he's almost 20 years younger. Dawson dominated Glen Johnson his last time out, and Johnson is far more aggressive and gung ho than Hopkins has looked in his last two fights. "Bad" Chad looks like he's coming into his own, and I don't see him having the flaws that a wily veteran like Hopkins can exploit, at least not now. Maybe if we were talking the Hopkins of two-to-four years ago against today's Dawson, sure, but we're not.

For Jones' sake, I do hope this did shockingly solid numbers on PPV and he gets some money. The fight was terrible and there's that complete cynic in me that says, "I wish neither of them got paid," but I also recognize that that's a pointless way to think about things. He went and did his job. But if he doesn't get paid, it's hard to cry the blues. Boxers are, like it or not, subject to the whims of the public demand as to how they're paid. If it turns out the public spoke so loudly that Jones doesn't make a dollar for the fight, that's just kind of the way it is.

After all, this isn't a situation like David Lopez (for instance), where the man is avoided and can't make the money he probably deserves, or the countless other fighters in a similar situation. Everyone knew who these two were. Nobody who really follows boxing doesn't know Jones and Hopkins. These aren't the mishandled, unfortunate cases, where deserving men aren't paid what they've put in. It's just that it looks like few were willing to pay $50 to see them fight again, and everyone was trying to tell them that for months. In this case, Roy has taken a major risk, and it appears he's lost.

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Reply #13 posted 04/12/10 10:52am

DesireeNevermi
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The sad thing about the fight is that Jones won’t make anything. Let’s assume for a second that the 6,792 in the building actually paid for their seats (we know that’s not true) and that the seats averaged $300 a ticket (a figure higher than reality). That would mean the gate was $2 million. If the expenses to rent the building and promote the fight were $1 million, that means $1 million is left. Now, let’s figure it sold 100,000 pay-per-views at $49.95 apiece. That’s about $5 million. They have to split 50 percent of that with the cable and satellite operators, so that leaves $2.498 million for themselves. Add the $1 million from the gate and the $2.498 million from the pay-per-view and you have $3.498 million in profit. Given that the contract called for the first $3.5 million in profit to go to Hopkins and Golden Boy, it’s almost certain Jones fought for nothing. Actual revenue will likely be far less than I’ve described above.


sad sad sad
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Reply #14 posted 04/12/10 1:10pm

Graycap23

Damn.....all that effort 4 nada? Very sad indeed.
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Reply #15 posted 04/12/10 1:50pm

DesireeNevermi
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It's a shame that so many athletes (especially boxers) have all that wear and tear on their bodies only to end up with some chump change. Sure they could make wise investments but even still, they have agents and manager and trainers and accountants...it's like there's hardly anything left. Hell, even Tyson went broke and he was one of the top money earners of all time for the boxing profession. If it weren't for the George Foreman grill, lord knows what he would be living on. Damn shame.
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Reply #16 posted 04/12/10 1:52pm

Graycap23

DesireeNevermind said:

It's a shame that so many athletes (especially boxers) have all that wear and tear on their bodies only to end up with some chump change. Sure they could make wise investments but even still, they have agents and manager and trainers and accountants...it's like there's hardly anything left. Hell, even Tyson went broke and he was one of the top money earners of all time for the boxing profession. If it weren't for the George Foreman grill, lord knows what he would be living on. Damn shame.

But that applies 2 a lot of people with money. I'd say the majority of people in general don't know how 2 handle large sums of money. There several factors involved, but it almost always start with the mirror.
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Reply #17 posted 04/12/10 1:57pm

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Graycap23 said:

DesireeNevermind said:

It's a shame that so many athletes (especially boxers) have all that wear and tear on their bodies only to end up with some chump change. Sure they could make wise investments but even still, they have agents and manager and trainers and accountants...it's like there's hardly anything left. Hell, even Tyson went broke and he was one of the top money earners of all time for the boxing profession. If it weren't for the George Foreman grill, lord knows what he would be living on. Damn shame.

But that applies 2 a lot of people with money. I'd say the majority of people in general don't know how 2 handle large sums of money. There several factors involved, but it almost always start with the mirror.



True. Mc Hammer comes to mind. Utterly amazing how he blew through all that cash. As for boxers, why the hell is Shane Mosley still boxing? doh!
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