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Reply #60 posted 03/23/10 5:52am

Dave1992

ernestsewell said:

missmad said:

there is a video on utube where the lady kept them for 4 yrs they never changed.

i really gotta stop eating this stuff. feel crap after eating it but it tastes good- i guess the best option is 2 make my own...what other options are there to a hamburger, storewise?

It's not that a hamburger is bad. It's the extra shit McD's puts in their food that makes it last for 365+ days. Go buy real beef at the store, or Bison meat (which is lower in fat and still tastes like regular beef of course - I just had a homemade Bison burger the other day, just added some salt/pepper/half/grated onion and garlic powder and grilled it) and make your own. (PS The grated onion into any beef adds flavor and moisture, especially if you're not using 80/20 beef which has a bit more fat for flavor, and that's okay).

McDonald's adds High Fructose Corn Syrup to their buns. SUGAR, highly concentrated! (And we wonder why it's addictive?!?!) Go buy wheat buns or use a heartier regular bread for yourself.

Add whatever condiments you wish, and make it how you wish. Hint: A little 1,000 Island dressing on it, it is just as good as the Big Mac's special sauce, although not exact. You can google near-recipes for the special sauce online).

The guy who wrote Food Rules made a good point.

He said he never deprives himself of anything he wants. However, it's HOW he gets it that has changed.

Example: Let's say you want french fries. How often do we REALLY want a good bit of fries? For the sake of argument, let's say twice a month (every couple of weeks). Instead of running out to get a large fry at McDonald's, he makes them.

If you HAD to make your own fries, how often are you willing to do that? Probably twice a month, I would bet.

So what to do? Grate, julienne, or cut your fries however you wish. Put them on a cookie sheet, toss them around with some oil, sea or gray salt, and pepper, and bake until done (or you can fry them up if you wish too - use peanut oil for more flavor). They're just as good, it fills your need for the salt or starch or carb craving you might have, and you worked for your food a little bit, so it's even more satisfying.

There's nothing better than making your own dinner, sitting down, and enjoying it.

YOU are your best alternative. And you won't feel like crap after you eat it.




That's a great post! drool
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Reply #61 posted 03/23/10 9:11pm

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ernestsewell said:

As a side note: My friend is uploading Food, Inc. to his server today. I'm going to snag it and watch it this week. I have a feeling I'll be eating even more differently before the week expires.



Food, Inc is GREAT. thumbs up!

And McDonald's "food" is fucking poison.
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Reply #62 posted 03/23/10 9:32pm

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Basically after I became a teen, I made my own decision to not wanna go to McDonald's especially after mama's homemade burgers made the McDonald's burgers seem fake (that was before I *knew* the food was not real at all). And after watching "Super Size Me", why would anyone even eat that and then die from eating it 24-7?
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Reply #63 posted 03/24/10 3:10pm

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ZombieKitten said:

meow85 said:


Generally I agree with that, but I always found the "don't eat anything you can't pronounce' bit a little condescending. Isn't that sort of assuming that most people can't handle multi-syllabic words? And what if you CAN easily rattle off the names of all the chemical ingredients?

I'm hoping that didn't mean foreign food as much as it meant chemicals like
phenylalanylalanylglutaminylleucyllysylglutamylarginyl

drool
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Reply #64 posted 03/24/10 3:22pm

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ZombieKitten said:


I'm hoping that didn't mean foreign food as much as it meant chemicals like
phenylalanylalanylglutaminylleucyllysylglutamylarginyl

drool

once we made mascara in science at school and I think we put that in it, we had to use that vacuum room, it STANK!
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Reply #65 posted 03/24/10 4:59pm

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Wow! It still looks fresh out of the box! The fries look like they havent aged at all! eek You know this is reason why I dont eat Micky Ds anymore. I heard and read some disgusting stuff about this resturant and IMO is should be illegal to even sell this stuff knowing that its not real food. Its some kind of process beef and all sorts of werid genetic stuff going on there that stays in your system for long periods of time never diguesting. Boycott McDonalds people.

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Reply #66 posted 03/28/10 11:39pm

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http://www.cnn.com/2010/H...ods.brain/

Fatty foods may cause cocaine-like addiction

By Sarah Klein, Health.com
March 28, 2010 2:42 p.m. EDT


(Health.com) -- Scientists have finally confirmed what the rest of us have suspected for years: Bacon, cheesecake, and other delicious yet fattening foods may be addictive.

A new study in rats suggests that high-fat, high-calorie foods affect the brain in much the same way as cocaine and heroin. When rats consume these foods in great enough quantities, it leads to compulsive eating habits that resemble drug addiction, the study found.

Doing drugs such as cocaine and eating too much junk food both gradually overload the so-called pleasure centers in the brain, according to Paul J. Kenny, Ph.D., an associate professor of molecular therapeutics at the Scripps Research Institute, in Jupiter, Florida. Eventually the pleasure centers "crash," and achieving the same pleasure--or even just feeling normal--requires increasing amounts of the drug or food, says Kenny, the lead author of the study.

"People know intuitively that there's more to [overeating] than just willpower," he says. "There's a system in the brain that's been turned on or over-activated, and that's driving [overeating] at some subconscious level."

In the study, published in the journal Nature Neuroscience, Kenny and his co-author studied three groups of lab rats for 40 days. One of the groups was fed regular rat food. A second was fed bacon, sausage, cheesecake, frosting, and other fattening, high-calorie foods--but only for one hour each day. The third group was allowed to pig out on the unhealthy foods for up to 23 hours a day.



Not surprisingly, the rats that gorged themselves on the human food quickly became obese. But their brains also changed. By monitoring implanted brain electrodes, the researchers found that the rats in the third group gradually developed a tolerance to the pleasure the food gave them and had to eat more to experience a high.



They began to eat compulsively, to the point where they continued to do so in the face of pain. When the researchers applied an electric shock to the rats' feet in the presence of the food, the rats in the first two groups were frightened away from eating. But the obese rats were not. "Their attention was solely focused on consuming food," says Kenny.

In previous studies, rats have exhibited similar brain changes when given unlimited access to cocaine or heroin. And rats have similarly ignored punishment to continue consuming cocaine, the researchers note.



The fact that junk food could provoke this response isn't entirely surprising, says Dr.Gene-Jack Wang, M.D., the chair of the medical department at the U.S. Department of Energy's Brookhaven National Laboratory, in Upton, New York.

"We make our food very similar to cocaine now," he says.

Coca leaves have been used since ancient times, he points out, but people learned to purify or alter cocaine to deliver it more efficiently to their brains (by injecting or smoking it, for instance). This made the drug more addictive.

According to Wang, food has evolved in a similar way. "We purify our food," he says. "Our ancestors ate whole grains, but we're eating white bread. American Indians ate corn; we eat corn syrup."

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The ingredients in purified modern food cause people to "eat unconsciously and unnecessarily," and will also prompt an animal to "eat like a drug abuser [uses drugs]," says Wang.

The neurotransmitter dopamine appears to be responsible for the behavior of the overeating rats, according to the study. Dopamine is involved in the brain's pleasure (or reward) centers, and it also plays a role in reinforcing behavior. "It tells the brain something has happened and you should learn from what just happened," says Kenny.

Overeating caused the levels of a certain dopamine receptor in the brains of the obese rats to drop, the study found. In humans, low levels of the same receptors have been associated with drug addiction and obesity, and may be genetic, Kenny says.



However, that doesn't mean that everyone born with lower dopamine receptor levels is destined to become an addict or to overeat. As Wang points out, environmental factors, and not just genes, are involved in both behaviors.

Wang also cautions that applying the results of animal studies to humans can be tricky. For instance, he says, in studies of weight-loss drugs, rats have lost as much as 30 percent of their weight, but humans on the same drug have lost less than 5 percent of their weight. "You can't mimic completely human behavior, but [animal studies] can give you a clue about what can happen in humans," Wang says.

Although he acknowledges that his research may not directly translate to humans, Kenny says the findings shed light on the brain mechanisms that drive overeating and could even lead to new treatments for obesity.

"If we could develop therapeutics for drug addiction, those same drugs may be good for obesity as well," he says.
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Reply #67 posted 03/29/10 11:22pm

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tackam said:

And McDonald's "food" is fucking poison.


Oh, probably. But let's give them credit where credit is due.

Here's the scenario: I have to be in 4 different cities on the same day. At 11:53 a.m., I arrive at my second destination for a 12:00 noon appointment. And I'm starving, because I haven't eaten anything all day.

Solution? There's a McDonald's across the street! I run over there, buy a McDouble off the Dollar Menu, and wolf it down. I walk in the door for my appointment at 11:58 a.m.

Until somebody starts serving healthy food that efficiently, I don't know what else I can do. (Well, I could start eating breakfast more often....)
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Reply #68 posted 03/30/10 10:07am

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ernestsewell said:


Why the fuck is there high fructose corn syrup is BREAD?


To be perfectly fair, just about ALL store-bought bread has it.

My kids eat alot of break, so I go out of my way to find Arnold brand sliced bread that is the only decently-priced one out there that doesn't use High Furctose Corn Syrup.

Actually...it's hard to find ANY food out there that still uses real cane sugar nowadays. There's a bodega by my office that imports Mexican Coca-Cola, so occasionally I splurge $1.50 on a (real) bottle of Coke made with cane sugar.
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Reply #69 posted 03/30/10 10:08am

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ernestsewell said:




...and yes, this is disturbing!!!
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Reply #70 posted 03/30/10 10:12am

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...and IMO it should be illegal to even sell this stuff knowing that its not real food. Its some kind of process beef and all sorts of werid genetic stuff going on there that stays in your system for long periods of time never diguesting. Boycott McDonalds people.


It's obviously "real" food, but is so jam-packed with preservatives and additives that it's immune to decomposition.

Being in a free country, I reserve my right to buy McDonald's at my choosing. What SHOULD be made illegal is people who abandon common sense and eat - or worse feed their kids this crap on a daily basis.

Moderation people...moderation.
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Reply #71 posted 03/30/10 10:16am

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I'm not surprised. They put enough salt in their food to preserve entire dynasties of Egyptian kings.
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Reply #72 posted 03/30/10 10:35am

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The only thing I get from McDonald's is their Southwest Salad, and that's only every once in a while.
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Reply #73 posted 03/30/10 11:40am

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Not really a fan of the burgers, but I tried that caramel Frappe the other night after work. It was actually pretty good.
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Reply #74 posted 03/30/10 7:41pm

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I'll eat one of those French Fries for $20. smile
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Reply #75 posted 03/30/10 8:24pm

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AnckSuNamun said:

Not really a fan of the burgers, but I tried that caramel Frappe the other night after work. It was actually pretty good.

oww i been wanting to try that too.they need to serve breakfast all day is the business.
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Reply #76 posted 03/31/10 12:18pm

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Acrylic said:

I'll eat one of those French Fries for $20. smile


Does $20 cover the stomach pump? barf

lol
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Reply #77 posted 03/31/10 12:20pm

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PurpleJedi said:

Acrylic said:

I'll eat one of those French Fries for $20. smile


Does $20 cover the stomach pump? barf

lol


I said one french fry. lol
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Reply #78 posted 03/31/10 8:35pm

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PurpleJedi said:

ernestsewell said:


Why the fuck is there high fructose corn syrup is BREAD?


To be perfectly fair, just about ALL store-bought bread has it.

My kids eat alot of break, so I go out of my way to find Arnold brand sliced bread that is the only decently-priced one out there that doesn't use High Furctose Corn Syrup.

Actually...it's hard to find ANY food out there that still uses real cane sugar nowadays. There's a bodega by my office that imports Mexican Coca-Cola, so occasionally I splurge $1.50 on a (real) bottle of Coke made with cane sugar.


I hope that never happens over here omg we still only have cane sugar to sweeten over here, we even have buses fuelled by ethanol made from cane sugar
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