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Reply #60 posted 03/09/10 11:27pm

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funkyslsistah said:

PurpleRighteous1 said:

My problem with what Howard is that, even though it may be true that Hollywood is too shallow to let Gabby have a real career, he said it in a tone that said he believed that she didn't deserve to have a decent career b/c of her weight. And that's a fucked up way to think. Plus he seemed to have a true disgust for the way she looked.

Asshole.



BINGO!!! That's the bottom line. Gabby doesn't fit society's mold of skinny, blonde, and beautiful. There are miserable people out there who actually fit that mold, so what does that say about society? Folks are SOOOOO surprised that she has a fabulous personality, loves herself, and does not resemble the character that she played. I've been lurking blogs and messages boards the last couple of days since the Academy Awards, and the comments have been outrageously and unnecessarily cruel. There is this belief that somebody like Gabby should not be happy, feel loved, or have success because she does not fit the mainstream ideals of what a successful and attractive person would look like. Some people thought that it's all a facade and basically she hates herself and is ashamed and all that stuff, bascially projecting how they see her and figures she feels that same way about herself. Plus there is this repulsion with the putdowns. If she has been wearing a mask this whole time, she really is a great actress. That is alot of pressure to carry yourself a certain way in order to be accepted by Hollywood. Even if she never has another hit movie or gets any more accolades, she has already made it and nothing else really to prove. So the haters will hate because they can't deal with themselves and it's easier to focus on celebrities and others outside of themselves to make themselves feel better.
I loved that she also said on the red carpet that she would "hit that" and "I'm not ashamed" to Gerard Butler. He played along and that was cute. lol Go Gabby!"


Exactly. I've been reading that she's unhealthy and she needs help with her weight. People want her to fit into their ideas of beauty, but aren't even seeing what a positive and beautiful personality she has. As long as she's happy.

I'd rather have her happy instead of miserable looking like a A LOT of actresses who were at the ceremony
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Reply #61 posted 03/09/10 11:52pm

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Vendetta1 said:

There is being honest and there is being a complete and total asshole.

Is it really impossible, are people really that fucking shallow that they would not let her talent speak for itself?

Gabby is happy with Gabby so what other people think about her is of no consequence.

nod I think that's his REAL problem. I haven't listened to his comments and don't plan to, but I've noticed that many people are put off by her joyful exuberance and self confidence and have to respond with some bullshit to diminish that.

So, I'm back to FUCK Howard Stern's bitchass AND the Robin he rode in on. finger


Agreed. confused
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Reply #62 posted 03/10/10 12:17am

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Yeah it was a bit of a cuntish conversation about her, but what else would you expect from the Stern Show ? Personally i love the show, and the Roasts are the funniest shit EVERRRRR !!!
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Reply #63 posted 03/10/10 12:47am

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i kinda see where he's coming from a bit. she was great in precious (prolly my favorite movie from the oscar pics cool), but hollywood do be on some bullshit. she's supposedly got other films in the works, so we'll see, but yah, i don't see her playing in a bunch of shit cuz of how she looks. not that that's right in the least, but still shrug. i don't mind stern. he talks grease about everyone hmm
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Reply #64 posted 03/10/10 4:09am

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Vendetta1 said:

PricelessHo said:



i saw that falloff

and then she twirled mushy
nothing creates haters like confidence. mushy


lol YOU are using THAT word, of all people? lol
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Reply #65 posted 03/10/10 4:15am

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KoolEaze said:

Vendetta1 said:

nothing creates haters like confidence. mushy


lol YOU are using THAT word, of all people? lol
I know, right? lol

But it is so true in her case. I'm a fat chick and I wish a motherfucker would have the nerve to say something to my face.
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Reply #66 posted 03/10/10 4:20am

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Vendetta1 said:

KoolEaze said:



lol YOU are using THAT word, of all people? lol
I know, right? lol

But it is so true in her case. I'm a fat chick and I wish a motherfucker would have the nerve to say something to my face.


and i'd love to see that shit too
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Reply #67 posted 03/10/10 4:20am

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Vendetta1 said:

I know, right? lol

But it is so true in her case. I'm a fat chick and I wish a motherfucker would have the nerve to say something to my face.


and i'd love to see that shit too
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Reply #68 posted 03/10/10 4:22am

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Howard went to Roosevelt High school in Long Island a predominantly all black school. He got his ass whooped on the daily. Hence why he's a racist cunt shit i'd beat his ass just for being born
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Reply #69 posted 03/10/10 4:28am

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IAintTheOne said:

Howard went to Roosevelt High school in Long Island a predominantly all black school. He got his ass whooped on the daily. Hence why he's a racist cunt shit i'd beat his ass just for being born


Oh ok!

He should keep running his mouth then, and someday he will pick his teeth from the floor like the good ol' days.

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Reply #70 posted 03/10/10 4:29am

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IAintTheOne said:

Howard went to Roosevelt High school in Long Island a predominantly all black school. He got his ass whooped on the daily. Hence why he's a racist cunt shit i'd beat his ass just for being born
I don't believe Howard is racist but this post is just falloff
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Reply #71 posted 03/10/10 6:17am

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Vendetta1 said:

IAintTheOne said:



and i'd love to see that shit too
falloff

spit Can I be the promoter of THAT fight??? We'd make MAD money! deal
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Reply #72 posted 03/10/10 6:34am

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Howard Stern has got to be one of the most unattractive men I've ever seen!

Enough said.
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Reply #73 posted 03/10/10 6:36am

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First of all, i'll preface what i'm about to say by stating that i'm a Howard fan. I wasn't at first, because I hadn't listened to him enough to know what he's about.

So firstly, Howard's not "racist". He may discuss racially charged issues with a level of irreverence that's not comfortable for some people, but he's not "racist".


Secondly, what he said about Gabby is DEAD ON. You may not like it, but everything he said is true. The fact that she got nominated for a Best Actress nomination out of the gate for that role was a perfect storm of sorts. What is she going to do now? She's going to be on SHOWTIME.

How many other Best Actress nominees do you know follow up their Oscar winning performance by going on cable television? That's his point. You can debate the fakery of Hollywood and how it's plastic and shallow, and all of those things would be true. So then what IS she going to do now? How many roles like "Precious" is she going to be able to be "right for the part?"

That's his point. She may be the most talented actress on the planet. But LOOKING AT HER, realistically how many roles in HOLLYWOOD is she going to be able to get going forward? Time will tell.


Anyhoo, that's my two cents.
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Reply #74 posted 03/10/10 7:02am

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First of all, i'll preface what i'm about to say by stating that i'm a Howard fan. I wasn't at first, because I hadn't listened to him enough to know what he's about.

So firstly, Howard's not "racist". He may discuss racially charged issues with a level of irreverence that's not comfortable for some people, but he's not "racist".


Secondly, what he said about Gabby is DEAD ON. You may not like it, but everything he said is true. The fact that she got nominated for a Best Actress nomination out of the gate for that role was a perfect storm of sorts. What is she going to do now? She's going to be on SHOWTIME.

How many other Best Actress nominees do you know follow up their Oscar winning performance by going on cable television? That's his point. You can debate the fakery of Hollywood and how it's plastic and shallow, and all of those things would be true. So then what IS she going to do now? How many roles like "Precious" is she going to be able to be "right for the part?"

That's his point. She may be the most talented actress on the planet. But LOOKING AT HER, realistically how many roles in HOLLYWOOD is she going to be able to get going forward? Time will tell.


Anyhoo, that's my two cents.


I repeat Howard Stern has got to be one of the most unattractive men I've ever seen in my life--and he managed to have a career in entertainment... albeit radio! lol

The thing is... I'm sure Gabby realizes she has obstacles to face. I'm sure she faces obstacles every. single. day. It's not like Howard is telling her something she doesn't already know.

Against all odds, Gabby was cast in this movie. Against all odds, she was nominated for an academy award.. and all that goes with it.

However, I still would imagine she realizes she is still going to have obstacles. But looking at Howard Stern's success, there is no reason why Gabby couldn't have the same type of success even though she does not fit a "stereotype" of beauty?

She's made it this far. Who is Howard Stern to give her a reality check?
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Reply #75 posted 03/10/10 7:03am

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I haven't seen Precious so I can't comment on her acting ability...but Hollywood is so far up this girls ass right now...and I have a hard time believing that its interest in her is all that genuine...honestly, if she wasn't a big girl, I don't think you'd see all the hype...stars fade fast, particularly when they're the flavor of the month type of stars...shrug
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Reply #76 posted 03/10/10 7:08am

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I haven't seen Precious so I can't comment on her acting ability...but Hollywood is so far up this girls ass right now...and I have a hard time believing that its interest in her is all that genuine...honestly, if she wasn't a big girl, I don't think you'd see all the hype...stars fade fast, particularly when they're the flavor of the month type of stars...shrug


And Howard Stern's interest in her is any more genuine?

Hopefully, she'll cash in on her popularity at the moment. That's what a lot of them do anyway, no matter what they look like.

Look at Hillary Swank. Even after winning two Oscars, I don't think she's all that "bankable" as a star. shrug
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Reply #77 posted 03/10/10 7:18am

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deadmansbones said:

thejason said:

I haven't seen Precious so I can't comment on her acting ability...but Hollywood is so far up this girls ass right now...and I have a hard time believing that its interest in her is all that genuine...honestly, if she wasn't a big girl, I don't think you'd see all the hype...stars fade fast, particularly when they're the flavor of the month type of stars...shrug


And Howard Stern's interest in her is any more genuine?

Hopefully, she'll cash in on her popularity at the moment. That's what a lot of them do anyway, no matter what they look like.

Look at Hillary Swank. Even after winning two Oscars, I don't think she's all that "bankable" as a star. shrug


well, to be fair, Howard wasn't kissing her ass so it's reasonable to say that his expressed opinion may be more genuine than some of her acting counterparts' accolades...

why would I want to look at Hiliary Swank...she's weird looking...

I can't tell what the issue is here...Howards opinion...or the fact that the opinion came from Howard...
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Reply #78 posted 03/10/10 7:20am

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deadmansbones said:

ButterscotchPimp said:

First of all, i'll preface what i'm about to say by stating that i'm a Howard fan. I wasn't at first, because I hadn't listened to him enough to know what he's about.

So firstly, Howard's not "racist". He may discuss racially charged issues with a level of irreverence that's not comfortable for some people, but he's not "racist".


Secondly, what he said about Gabby is DEAD ON. You may not like it, but everything he said is true. The fact that she got nominated for a Best Actress nomination out of the gate for that role was a perfect storm of sorts. What is she going to do now? She's going to be on SHOWTIME.

How many other Best Actress nominees do you know follow up their Oscar winning performance by going on cable television? That's his point. You can debate the fakery of Hollywood and how it's plastic and shallow, and all of those things would be true. So then what IS she going to do now? How many roles like "Precious" is she going to be able to be "right for the part?"

That's his point. She may be the most talented actress on the planet. But LOOKING AT HER, realistically how many roles in HOLLYWOOD is she going to be able to get going forward? Time will tell.


Anyhoo, that's my two cents.


I repeat Howard Stern has got to be one of the most unattractive men I've ever seen in my life--and he managed to have a career in entertainment... albeit radio! lol

The thing is... I'm sure Gabby realizes she has obstacles to face. I'm sure she faces obstacles every. single. day. It's not like Howard is telling her something she doesn't already know.

Against all odds, Gabby was cast in this movie. Against all odds, she was nominated for an academy award.. and all that goes with it.

However, I still would imagine she realizes she is still going to have obstacles. But looking at Howard Stern's success, there is no reason why Gabby couldn't have the same type of success even though she does not fit a "stereotype" of beauty?

She's made it this far. Who is Howard Stern to give her a reality check?


What odds? The fact is that this role called for certain specifics that she filled. It's not against all odds that she did a fantastic job and was honored by being nominated.

However, she will have a hard time getting any other acting role but the "fat girl" because Hollywood (which simply puts out what the PUBLIC wants to see) will never allow her to be anything other than that.

It's a shame, but it's not Hollywood's fault, it's all of ours - the consumers.
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Reply #79 posted 03/10/10 7:23am

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We all know shock jock Howard Stern lives up to his title on the daily. But this time he’s blasting Oscar nominee Gabourey Sidibe. About–you guessed it–her weight.

While Gabby isn’t the first person Howard and his crew *side eyeing Robin* have blasted disrespectfully, many folks around the net are heated about the way it was done this time around. Check out the audio yourself where Howard comments that Oprah lied to Gabby about ever having a career after this.

'You feel bad for her 'cause people are bullshitting her and it's going to be a tremendous let down.'

'She's gotta do something about that weight or she's gonna have serious health problems!'

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Reply #80 posted 03/10/10 7:24am

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My reply to him and his "maid"...


October 30, 2006

Howard had the comedian, Paul Mooney, in the studio...(Paul) mentioned that he was thrown off Buck Wild’s radio show earlier this month because he mentioned Howard’s name on the program and how Howard "had his back" throughout his career.

When another caller referred to Paul as "radio gold" and pointed out he should do his own show on SIRIUS, Howard replied he’d like to talk to Paul about the idea, and Paul said they could go to dinner to discuss the possibility.
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Reply #81 posted 03/10/10 7:24am

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deadmansbones said:



And Howard Stern's interest in her is any more genuine?

Hopefully, she'll cash in on her popularity at the moment. That's what a lot of them do anyway, no matter what they look like.

Look at Hillary Swank. Even after winning two Oscars, I don't think she's all that "bankable" as a star. shrug


well, to be fair, Howard wasn't kissing her ass so it's reasonable to say that his expressed opinion may be more genuine than some of her acting counterparts' accolades...

why would I want to look at Hiliary Swank...she's weird looking...

I can't tell what the issue is here...Howards opinion...or the fact that the opinion came from Howard...


Howard's reputation is one of a provocateur--a shock jock. Howard behaved as is expected--just as Hollywood has behaved as expected. He isn't any different at all. He's exploiting Gabby.. just as Hollywood will attempt to exploit Gabby for its own gain. Hopefully, Gabby will benefit from it--if she has a good agent/team, she'll benefit.

As I said, I would imagine Gabby is well-aware of her obstacles. Just because she's living her dream at the moment doesn't mean she's not grounded in reality--particularly if she has a good support system--and that would not be Howard Stern.
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Reply #82 posted 03/10/10 7:24am

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i'm just waiting for Ace to show up... whistling

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Reply #83 posted 03/10/10 7:25am

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deadmansbones said:

ButterscotchPimp said:

First of all, i'll preface what i'm about to say by stating that i'm a Howard fan. I wasn't at first, because I hadn't listened to him enough to know what he's about.

So firstly, Howard's not "racist". He may discuss racially charged issues with a level of irreverence that's not comfortable for some people, but he's not "racist".


Secondly, what he said about Gabby is DEAD ON. You may not like it, but everything he said is true. The fact that she got nominated for a Best Actress nomination out of the gate for that role was a perfect storm of sorts. What is she going to do now? She's going to be on SHOWTIME.

How many other Best Actress nominees do you know follow up their Oscar winning performance by going on cable television? That's his point. You can debate the fakery of Hollywood and how it's plastic and shallow, and all of those things would be true. So then what IS she going to do now? How many roles like "Precious" is she going to be able to be "right for the part?"

That's his point. She may be the most talented actress on the planet. But LOOKING AT HER, realistically how many roles in HOLLYWOOD is she going to be able to get going forward? Time will tell.


Anyhoo, that's my two cents.


I repeat Howard Stern has got to be one of the most unattractive men I've ever seen in my life--and he managed to have a career in entertainment... albeit radio! lol

The thing is... I'm sure Gabby realizes she has obstacles to face. I'm sure she faces obstacles every. single. day. It's not like Howard is telling her something she doesn't already know.

Against all odds, Gabby was cast in this movie. Against all odds, she was nominated for an academy award.. and all that goes with it.

However, I still would imagine she realizes she is still going to have obstacles. But looking at Howard Stern's success, there is no reason why Gabby couldn't have the same type of success even though she does not fit a "stereotype" of beauty?

She's made it this far. Who is Howard Stern to give her a reality check?




The only problem with this statement is, it wasnt against all odds... They were looking for someone like her with her build and looks...
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Reply #84 posted 03/10/10 7:29am

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deadmansbones said:

thejason said:



well, to be fair, Howard wasn't kissing her ass so it's reasonable to say that his expressed opinion may be more genuine than some of her acting counterparts' accolades...

why would I want to look at Hiliary Swank...she's weird looking...

I can't tell what the issue is here...Howards opinion...or the fact that the opinion came from Howard...


Howard's reputation is one of a provocateur--a shock jock. Howard behaved as is expected--just as Hollywood has behaved as expected. He isn't any different at all. He's exploiting Gabby.. just as Hollywood will attempt to exploit Gabby for it's own gain. Hopefully, Gabby will benefit from it--if she has a good agent/team, she'll benefit.

As I said, I would imagine Gabby is well-aware of her obstacles. Just because she's living her dream at the moment doesn't mean she's not grounded in reality--particularly if she has a good support system--and that would not be Howard Stern.


This is exactly right.
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Reply #85 posted 03/10/10 7:30am

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deadmansbones said:



I repeat Howard Stern has got to be one of the most unattractive men I've ever seen in my life--and he managed to have a career in entertainment... albeit radio! lol

The thing is... I'm sure Gabby realizes she has obstacles to face. I'm sure she faces obstacles every. single. day. It's not like Howard is telling her something she doesn't already know.

Against all odds, Gabby was cast in this movie. Against all odds, she was nominated for an academy award.. and all that goes with it.

However, I still would imagine she realizes she is still going to have obstacles. But looking at Howard Stern's success, there is no reason why Gabby couldn't have the same type of success even though she does not fit a "stereotype" of beauty?

She's made it this far. Who is Howard Stern to give her a reality check?


What odds? The fact is that this role called for certain specifics that she filled. It's not against all odds that she did a fantastic job and was honored by being nominated.

However, she will have a hard time getting any other acting role but the "fat girl" because Hollywood (which simply puts out what the PUBLIC wants to see) will never allow her to be anything other than that.

It's a shame, but it's not Hollywood's fault, it's all of ours - the consumers.


Some of the most beautiful actresses NEVER get a role like that...just look at Farrah Fawcett! Ironcially enough, Gabby achieved something Farrah could achieve in a lifetime and for that achievement will always be remembered by "The Academy."

As far as Gabby's future, as I said, I am sure she is well-aware there will be obstacles. There are obstacles for all of them. Like most, the best she can do at the moment is strike while the iron is hot. Hopefully, she's got a good agent.. somebody advising her.
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Reply #86 posted 03/10/10 7:33am

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deadmansbones said:

JustErin said:



What odds? The fact is that this role called for certain specifics that she filled. It's not against all odds that she did a fantastic job and was honored by being nominated.

However, she will have a hard time getting any other acting role but the "fat girl" because Hollywood (which simply puts out what the PUBLIC wants to see) will never allow her to be anything other than that.

It's a shame, but it's not Hollywood's fault, it's all of ours - the consumers.


Some of the most beautiful actresses NEVER get a role like that...just look at Farrah Fawcett! Ironcially enough, Gabby achieved something Farrah could achieve in a lifetime and for that achievement will always be remembered by "The Academy."

As far as Gabby's future, as I said, I am sure she is well-aware there will be obstacles. There are obstacles for all of them. Like most, the best she can do at the moment is strike while the iron is hot. Hopefully, she's got a good agent.. somebody advising her.


That still doesn't make it against all odds at all. The odds were actually in her favor as she had the look and talent that they needed for that movie.
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Reply #87 posted 03/10/10 7:33am

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JustErin said:

deadmansbones said:



Howard's reputation is one of a provocateur--a shock jock. Howard behaved as is expected--just as Hollywood has behaved as expected. He isn't any different at all. He's exploiting Gabby.. just as Hollywood will attempt to exploit Gabby for it's own gain. Hopefully, Gabby will benefit from it--if she has a good agent/team, she'll benefit.

As I said, I would imagine Gabby is well-aware of her obstacles. Just because she's living her dream at the moment doesn't mean she's not grounded in reality--particularly if she has a good support system--and that would not be Howard Stern.


This is exactly right.

ok...one of y'all is gonna have to tell me how Howards opinion is exploiting her...lol
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Reply #88 posted 03/10/10 7:37am

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ButterscotchPimp said:

First of all, i'll preface what i'm about to say by stating that i'm a Howard fan. I wasn't at first, because I hadn't listened to him enough to know what he's about.

So firstly, Howard's not "racist". He may discuss racially charged issues with a level of irreverence that's not comfortable for some people, but he's not "racist".


Secondly, what he said about Gabby is DEAD ON. You may not like it, but everything he said is true. The fact that she got nominated for a Best Actress nomination out of the gate for that role was a perfect storm of sorts. What is she going to do now? She's going to be on SHOWTIME.

How many other Best Actress nominees do you know follow up their Oscar winning performance by going on cable television? That's his point. You can debate the fakery of Hollywood and how it's plastic and shallow, and all of those things would be true. So then what IS she going to do now? How many roles like "Precious" is she going to be able to be "right for the part?"

That's his point. She may be the most talented actress on the planet. But LOOKING AT HER, realistically how many roles in HOLLYWOOD is she going to be able to get going forward? Time will tell.


Anyhoo, that's my two cents.



lol
I agree with what Howard said specific to Gabby but not in general. There are a lot of 'fat, ugly' actresses who have maintained careers, Oprah being one, and Cathy Baits being the other. But both are very talented and accomplished actresses. I haven't seen Precious yet, but I'm assuming it was role she was perfect for and there are only so many 'Precious' types roles the industry would dream up (and those are the only ones I can conceive her being considered for, honestly)... and let's face it, she is too fat and ugly to get normal hollywood roles.

But personally, if I was Howard I would have refrained from saying what he said for simple fact that this is a young woman who only recently had her day. Why spoil it, no? It's kind of mean.

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Reply #89 posted 03/10/10 7:40am

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TheVoid said:

But personally, if I was Howard I would have refrained from saying what he said for simple fact that this is a young woman who only recently had her day. Why spoil it, no? It's kind of mean.



c'mon Dan...even the most loved and adored people in the moment know somebody isn't feeling them...everybody has critics...

example...
you're considered the orger...and you still have your fair share of howard sterns here...lol
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