meow85 said:

Ottensen said:

JustErin said:

I always felt it was similar to Star & Al's relationship, which I'll never understand.

Harlepolis said:

I see....

I made some assumptions about which way thangs were swaggin.. well this may be a horse of a different color.

to each to he's or hers own.


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uPtoWnNY said:

I don't get it either, but relationships like this do exist and they thrive. One of my best friends from childhood has a wife that he absolutely adores and will walk to the ends of the earth for, yet they've never consumated their marriage after some 15 years, and she lives happily in Paris while he lives here now with any number of boyfriends. They are thick as thieves and incredibly protective of each other, I daresay they even have jealous streaks. It's all complicated and I'm just glad I'm not entangled in it

Huh. Cool. So many people have marriages or long-term relationships that aren't monogamous, and so few people are willing to admit it. Kinda wild to hear a celebrity just talk about it.

I think monogamy and non-monogamy are both complicated, and positive and problematic in their own ways. I admire people who figure out what works for them, letting the rest of the world fuck off if they don't like it.

People are so different. Why should everybody need/want the same kind of relationship?

Graycap23 said:

thank you for invoking my anger yet again at these whack ass celebs. this desperate twice divorced chick is working my last nerve.


let's be real here shall we? it's always the woman giving up these type passes. we all know damn well that most men wouldn't tolerate their partner stepping out once yet alone a couple dozen times. if a person is not sexually satisfied with you then why marry their ass, give them kids, and give them potentially half your fortune? for what? friendship? this dude is not only her husband but her manager as well right? the words control and manipulation come to mind.

monique reeks of desperation. there are just some women that have to have that missus in front of their name and I think she is one of them. what kind of message is she sending young girls or young boys for that matter? fuck who you want as long as you tell only one person that you love them? all her goings on about "he's my best friend; I've known him 25 years". Bitch please, if he was all that then why wasn't he your first pick?


this marriage will bust up the moment that dude busts a nut in another uterus and makes another baby - assuming he only likes women.

meow85 said:

then she ought to keep her mouth shut about it. why does the public need to be clued in to her dysfunction? she might as well tell everybody how often dude lays the pipe. when she opened her mouth she opened herself up for criticism IMO,

Harlepolis said:

bidness arrangement + desperate heffa = monique and wasshisface.

tackam said:

Exactly. Measured and well said.

DesireeNevermind said:

missfee said:

I never said I don't support people's right to have whatever type of marriage they want. Do whatever the fuck you all want.

Just as missfee thinks that a monogomous marriage is most healthy, I feel that the opposite is true. That an open, honest marriage is. And no, that doesn't automatically = kids and stds.

But it's interesting that you took task to my definition of what's healthy and not hers. You mentioned that I wasn't married, is she?

uPtoWnNY said:

I don't claim to understand either, but it comes off as her saying, "no man will ever really want me, so I'll just settle for this guy".

DesireeNevermind said:

Why should she lie or not answer when asked? You and I might not care about what she does but the truth is that many people are OBSESSED with celebrity culture and are dying to hear about this kinda shit.

JustErin said:

#1: Never said that it AUTOMATICALLY = kids and stds...but it sure as hell gives you more of a higher risk to it. Glad you find it funny though

#2: I was simply agreeing to Ottensen's opinion on this topic. My status of whether I'm single or married in regards to this topic has absolutely nothing to do with this conversation so you can leave me out of it. Thank you.
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missfee said:

Ya, ok.

It totally has to do with what Ottensen said, since she brought it up with me and now I am bringing it up in regards to you. It's called a natural progression of dialogue.

If you can't handle people responding to your posts, maybe this site isn't for you.

JustErin said:

WTF are you talking about? You made a comment to another orger but included my name in it (when I had nothing to do with the conversation between you and Ottensen), so I'm not supposed to respond (as I do have this right)???? You are a laughable character. Funny you say this because you are showing this in full view. Carry on.

missfee said:

Forget it, you're lost.

JustErin said:

Why even go through with the charade? Everyone knows the deal. Weird.

uPtoWnNY said:

JustErin said:

Lady let it go and get back to the discussion please. Thanks.

uPtoWnNY said:

That is the million dollar question and the $5 answer is probably this:


For all the talk about honesty and openess and how supposedly unrealistic it is for people to be monagamous..even though other animals (and other human couples) are able to do it...people still want the idea of what marriage is and what that title represents.

Also, there is no reason whatsoever that Monique couldn't have her exact same arrangement with Hicks and not be married to him. She wanted that title, she wanted to be Mrs. somebody and a lot of trifling ass women are like that. You have chicks out there who will wed a lying, cheating, beating man just to say they've got a ring and that they are a wifey - not saying Monique's man beats her or lies to her but hey, if she's given him the okay to cheat then the rest of that stuff is no doubt included in the fine print of their marriage contract (this is her 3rd marriage so obviously the badge of honor is important to her). Some dudes are like that too. They want the title of husband, hero, savior, daddy, and all around hard working man when the reality is they aint nothing but a dick with a marriage license.

I get on the one hand people like their titles and labels, but on the other hand why not just wear the right title and label and own that shit! If you like a person's personality and being in their company but you know you will always be itching to play on another's court...then don't join the team...be a free agent and play when you want with who you want. There are lot's of confirmed bachelors and bachelorettes out there...aint no shame in being single and free to mingle but there is shame in pretending to respect the sanctity of marriage and then go troll hunting.


The funny thing is....if she had kept her mouth shut on this arrangement, nobody would be saying shit. If this is all for publicity then it's a damn shame somebody would rather have a negative spotlight than no spotlight at all. If this is an arrangment to protect Hicks b/c maybe he's gay and not able or ready to come out of the closet then again....keep ya mouth shut about having a cheating pass!



carry on!

DesireeNevermind said:

JustErin said:

1. Fine, everyone has a different view of what type of marriage is healthiest for them. I only asked if you were saying that would be true for everyone or not.

2. I took Fee's view to assert what was right for her. Your post came off as more of an absolute (for all). I merely questioned if you had experience being married, sort of as an insight to how you got to your opinion, particularly since you don't use a religious or spiritual teaching as your foundation to determine what the marriage covenant means to you. I think it was a legitimate question.

3. See what's highlighted in red, Mama? Chill out a bit, and have a coke and a smile , before I choke you

JustErin said:

I didn't get that at all...I don't think she's despearte for a man, she's already had two husbands, is attractive, with pockets full of money. I don't think finding a man would be a problem for her at all if she so desired.

I guess because I've seen gay men in married (hetero) relationships, open relationships (never DL)...it's all too complex for me to understand, but I have seen people who genuinely love each other who have open marriages. I don't get it at all (because of my own spiritual beliefs and Scorpionic possessivenes), but there can be authenticity in reltionships like that. I wouldn't call it a charade rather than people choosing to love each other differently than what we in the western Judeo-Christian world are accustomed to. Is it a path for me? Hell no. But I'm not going to denigrate what other folks have come to as the right place for them in their relationship. Everyone cannot and does not love each other under the same rules and code of ethics out of the 6 billion people on this earth.

^ That's a good post Ott. I know a gay male couple who are open but it's only because one does not want to lose the other and risk being alone and in the dating scene. Weird cuz he is mad cute and should be able to find somebody easy.

As for Monique, I wonder how this story of open marriage even surfaced to begin with? HIcks must have had an extamarital encounter and said encountee got to flapping their gums OR this marriage was suspect from jump street and she decided to come clean about how they roll. Again, no matter what the rumours are...keep yo bidness to yoself. Bet though, her sons growing up in that kind of lifestyle may carry on the behavior/thinking, and that will be hard for any future girlfriends they have who don't believe in letting the man run wild. Lastly....this is her THIRD marriage. Why bother? Obviously the other husbands were either cheating or stealing her money so why let this guy get a pass for potentially doing the same damn thing? Don't make a lick of sense!


Scorpionic possessiveness. My fav trait about the scorpios. They are no nonsense.

Ottensen said:

Oh come on, Ottie. You know I am as chill as they come. I just always talk like that - you should know that by now.

Ottensen said:

But you do realize that success, looks, money, whatever, whatever has nothing to do with self esteem, right?

missfee said:

Triple co-sign

JustErin said:

Okay, fine, my readthebitchiness meater is totally off tonight. Yes, I do know how chill you are, and I was having an evil grandma -wanna choke somebody moment because I was hungry . I have promptly treated myself to a Carribean dinner so I'm all open to evry'thing and evry'body, and we can all throw our fucks around ev'ry which way now...

..okay maybe that last part doesn't sound right given the thread topic, but, yaknowhaddamean