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Reply #30 posted 02/25/10 12:13pm

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since when is IKEA cheap?
must've happened when they changed their font.... wink
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Reply #31 posted 02/25/10 12:18pm

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so this doesn't qualify as shabby chic?? neutral
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Reply #32 posted 02/25/10 12:24pm

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BklynBabe said:

faint
since when is IKEA cheap?
must've happened when they changed their font.... wink

I don't think IKEA's furniture or materials are that good, durable, or sturdy. There are a lot of MUCH better quality kitchen products and appliances in the world. When you are building or remodeling a home, your best return on your investment is what you spend in the kitchen and bathrooms. Especially if you're dealing with a $10 million dollar property, future potential buyers are going to pay a lot of attention to the quality and cost spent on the kitchen and would expect a top of the line finish out in the kitchen with superior quality materials.

It makes no sense to put IKEA materials in an apartment like this. Odds are, when they sell it, they will probably have to discount the property to make up for the next buyer ripping that shit out and replacing it OR they will have to include an allowance for renovating the kitchen.
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Reply #33 posted 02/25/10 12:26pm

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Fuck Ikea making you put your own furniture together. hmph! slavery!
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Reply #34 posted 02/25/10 12:29pm

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<-- LOVES his inferior kitchen. shrug





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Reply #35 posted 02/25/10 12:29pm

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BklynBabe said:

faint
since when is IKEA cheap?
must've happened when they changed their font.... wink


not cheap for you & me (I'd be happy with a new Ikea kitchen), but I know a guy who makes custom kitchens for rich people, and they are definitely not the same kind of stuff you get at Ikea.
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Reply #36 posted 02/25/10 12:30pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

Fuck Ikea making you put your own furniture together. hmph! slavery!

The fuck is THAT shit about??? My homegirl works at the one in Austin and is always offering me her discount.

I'm like, "What the fuck I'm posed to do with that shit? I got big friends so I need big furnitures. I'd fuck around wit Ikea and get sued. No thanks." hmph!
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Reply #37 posted 02/25/10 12:33pm

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SCNDLS said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Fuck Ikea making you put your own furniture together. hmph! slavery!

The fuck is THAT shit about??? My homegirl works at the one in Austin and is always offering me her discount. I

'm like, "What the fuck I'm posed to do with that shit? I got big friends so I need big furnitures. I'd fuck around wit Ikea and get sued. No thanks." hmph!




An ex bf of minez had all this kitchen Ikea shit and was braggin' bout how he put it together himself. I was like "wow you did all that...you could have had them do it." He's like "no babe they make you do it yourself." I'm like " confused rolleyes disbelief you paid how much?? talk to the hand"
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Reply #38 posted 02/25/10 12:34pm

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NDRU said:

BklynBabe said:

faint
since when is IKEA cheap?
must've happened when they changed their font.... wink


not cheap for you & me (I'd be happy with a new Ikea kitchen), but I know a guy who makes custom kitchens for rich people, and they are definitely not the same kind of stuff you get at Ikea.

nod That's my point. If you have $10 mil to buy an apt in an Ian Schrager building you can't half step when it comes to one of the most important areas of a house.
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Reply #39 posted 02/25/10 12:34pm

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johnart said:

<-- LOVES his inferior kitchen. shrug







me likey! nod

*stands in front of cheap Amazon and Sears furniture that I put together and whistles nonchalantly*

"nothing to see here, folks, move along...."
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Reply #40 posted 02/25/10 12:38pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

SCNDLS said:


The fuck is THAT shit about??? My homegirl works at the one in Austin and is always offering me her discount. I

'm like, "What the fuck I'm posed to do with that shit? I got big friends so I need big furnitures. I'd fuck around wit Ikea and get sued. No thanks." hmph!




An ex bf of minez had all this kitchen Ikea shit and was braggin' bout how he put it together himself. I was like "wow you did all that...you could have had them do it." He's like "no babe they make you do it yourself." I'm like " confused rolleyes disbelief you paid how much?? talk to the hand"

I'm definitely not a DIY'er. And the killing part is that Ikea really isn't that inexpensive compared to what REGULAR folks would pay to have a kitchen professionally installed.
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Reply #41 posted 02/25/10 12:45pm

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Home Depot - 10



Ikea - 4.5
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Reply #42 posted 02/25/10 12:49pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

Home Depot - 10



Ikea - 4.5

lol
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Reply #43 posted 02/25/10 12:53pm

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Reply #44 posted 02/25/10 1:54pm

Cinnie

Atlanta Georgia where the girls don't ignore ya
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Reply #45 posted 02/25/10 4:58pm

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I guess this lawsuit is the least of their problems, especially when it comes to the guy (Jón Ásgeir)... last year he lost control of his business empire, as explained in this interview with him: http://business.timesonli...907743.ece
I noticed that the article about the lawsuit mentioned chewed up chicken wings being dropped from their apartment... I bet you would find loads of soda cans in their apartment, the guy apparently drinks TEN cans of Diet Coke a DAY.

Most of his alleged wealth and the money used to buy up companies in the UK is just a big pile of debt, much of it borrowed from banks he (or companies owned by him) owned shares in which in turn were bought with loans, which now have to be written off by banks, one of which is still owned by the Icelandic government after it was nationalized during the big economic meltdown in 2008...

here's a clip from one of his expensive star-studded company parties, which probably was paid for with loans which have to be written off at Icelandic taxpayers' expense disbelief
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Reply #46 posted 02/25/10 5:26pm

ZombieKitten

buying an IKEA kitchen was probably the only sensible thing he did then confused
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Reply #47 posted 02/25/10 6:30pm

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NDRU said:

Ottensen said:

I don't know what product lines they're selling in the US stores, but what's funny to me is that IKEA does have quality pieces with a higher price point... done by award winning designers that most of those people up in arms wouldn't know from a mole on their ass cheek.

If it's one thing I cannot stand is pretentiousness.

True style is not dictated by the price you pay for something or whether it has an identifiable name which is the current buzzword on everyone's lips. Grammercy Park or not, there is no written rule that says everyone has to install a kitchen designed by Phillipe Stark or use Jaener glass there living there. It's ridiculous. I guarantee you, if you walked into the homes of some of the world's most sought after architects and interior designers; Emmanuaela Frattini, Michael Berman, Dowling Kimm Studios, an so on...not only are you going to find used items that were picked from trash, but, yes you might find some random piece from IKEA.


...you know, at the end of the day, there just aren't enough fucking Arne Jacobsen chairs to go around and sometimes people need an alternative. What next? People losing their place on the social register because they're serving coffee in Allessi and the lynch mob only likes Paola Navone (for the moment)???? Kiss my ass with that. If I haven't actually seen a pic of the kitchen in question, for all we know it looked great, provided appropriate form and function for the owners living there, and the co-op needs to find something else to get their panties in a twist about. Seriously. confused


Ah, the rantings of the poor SO amuse me! smile



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Ottensen: WORD. Pretentious assholes who couldn't design their way out of a paper bag telling people how to spend their money. blahblah
"What's 'non-sequitur' mean? Do I look it up in a Fag-to-English dictionary?"
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Reply #48 posted 02/25/10 6:32pm

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NDRU said:



Ah, the rantings of the poor SO amuse me! smile



falloff

Ottensen: WORD. Pretentious assholes who couldn't design their way out of a paper bag telling people how to spend their money. blahblah


no amount of money can give you good taste
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Reply #49 posted 02/25/10 6:44pm

ZombieKitten

http://www.flickr.com/pho...0680/show/
there is room for a little IKEA no matter what your decor mushy
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Reply #50 posted 02/25/10 7:02pm

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lol Ya'll are too funny. If you love Ikea good for you. But NO amount of namecalling or judging is going to change the fact that Ikea is by no stretch of the imagination a product of superior quality material or construction that buyers in this price point would expect to find in a kitchen in this building. Putting in an Ikea kitchen was like putting a bumper sticker on a Bentley. Taste and class is subjective, quality is not IMO.

There are TONS of options that coulda/shoulda been installed in this place to adhere to the quality standards they agreed to when they bought in the building. There's a reason co-op rules exist which is to preserve the value of ALL of the units in the building and believe it or not putting an Ikea kitchen in a unit does have an adverse impact on property values which are already suffering. You don't want a co-op board telling you what to do or how to decorate, don't buy in a co-op building. Easy peasy. But these days MOST homes in the US in ALL price ranges have HOA rules you have to follow to prevent people from doing dumb shit that messes with everyone's values. But what do I know, I'm just a pretentious person who's personally bought, built, and/or sold 20 houses/condos in the last 5 years. shrug
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Reply #51 posted 02/25/10 7:08pm

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SCNDLS said:

You don't want a co-op board telling you what to do or how to decorate, don't buy in a co-op building.


Very true.
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Reply #52 posted 02/25/10 7:31pm

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SCNDLS said:

lol Ya'll are too funny. If you love Ikea good for you. But NO amount of namecalling or judging is going to change the fact that Ikea is by no stretch of the imagination a product of superior quality material or construction that buyers in this price point would expect to find in a kitchen in this building. Putting in an Ikea kitchen was like putting a bumper sticker on a Bentley. Taste and class is subjective, quality is not IMO.

There are TONS of options that coulda/shoulda been installed in this place to adhere to the quality standards they agreed to when they bought in the building. There's a reason co-op rules exist which is to preserve the value of ALL of the units in the building and believe it or not putting an Ikea kitchen in a unit does have an adverse impact on property values which are already suffering. You don't want a co-op board telling you what to do or how to decorate, don't buy in a co-op building. Easy peasy. But these days MOST homes in the US in ALL price ranges have HOA rules you have to follow to prevent people from doing dumb shit that messes with everyone's values. But what do I know, I'm just a pretentious person who's personally bought, built, and/or sold 20 houses/condos in the last 5 years. shrug
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Not everything Ikea sells is poorly made. They have a variety of price points with a corresponding range of materials.
"What's 'non-sequitur' mean? Do I look it up in a Fag-to-English dictionary?"
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Reply #53 posted 02/25/10 7:39pm

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SCNDLS said:

lol Ya'll are too funny. If you love Ikea good for you. But NO amount of namecalling or judging is going to change the fact that Ikea is by no stretch of the imagination a product of superior quality material or construction that buyers in this price point would expect to find in a kitchen in this building. Putting in an Ikea kitchen was like putting a bumper sticker on a Bentley. Taste and class is subjective, quality is not IMO.

There are TONS of options that coulda/shoulda been installed in this place to adhere to the quality standards they agreed to when they bought in the building. There's a reason co-op rules exist which is to preserve the value of ALL of the units in the building and believe it or not putting an Ikea kitchen in a unit does have an adverse impact on property values which are already suffering. You don't want a co-op board telling you what to do or how to decorate, don't buy in a co-op building. Easy peasy. But these days MOST homes in the US in ALL price ranges have HOA rules you have to follow to prevent people from doing dumb shit that messes with everyone's values. But what do I know, I'm just a pretentious person who's personally bought, built, and/or sold 20 houses/condos in the last 5 years. shrug
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Not everything Ikea sells is poorly made. They have a variety of price points with a corresponding range of materials.

MOST, if not all, of their kitchen cabinetry is made of particleboard, fiberboard, compressed wood and chips, and/or foil, not real, solid wood. Therefore, not the SUPERIOR quality materials OR construction one would expect in a $10 million apartment.

And I almost forgot, when I looked at their stuff for a kitchen in one of my houses the second thing I noticed, after the particleboard, was that their cabinet pieces are typically GLUED together. The easiest way to spot quality woodwork is by looking at the joinery method cuz that is a major sign of true craftsmanship in carpentry. That holds true for 1000 year old antiques and for woodworking today. If you've got that kinda money there's no excuse for putting particleboard in that joint, especially when you can put REAL wood, well-made cabinets in a kitchen for the same price or less than Ikea particleboard.

But, since you've already stated that you're better than me, what could I possibly know. shrug
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Reply #54 posted 02/25/10 8:08pm

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SCNDLS said:

tackam said:



Not everything Ikea sells is poorly made. They have a variety of price points with a corresponding range of materials.

MOST, if not all, of their kitchen cabinetry is made of particleboard, fiberboard, compressed wood and chips, and/or foil, not real, solid wood. Therefore, not the SUPERIOR quality materials OR construction one would expect in a $10 million apartment.

And I almost forgot, when I looked at their stuff for a kitchen in one of my houses the second thing I noticed, after the particleboard, was that their cabinet pieces are typically GLUED together. The easiest way to spot quality woodwork is by looking at the joinery method cuz that is a major sign of true craftsmanship in carpentry. That holds true for 1000 year old antiques and for woodworking today. If you've got that kinda money there's no excuse for putting particleboard in that joint, especially when you can put REAL wood, well-made cabinets in a kitchen for the same price or less than Ikea particleboard.

But, since you've already stated that you're better than me, what could I possibly know. shrug
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Oh, fuck off. lol
"What's 'non-sequitur' mean? Do I look it up in a Fag-to-English dictionary?"
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Reply #55 posted 02/25/10 8:09pm

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tackam said:

SCNDLS said:


MOST, if not all, of their kitchen cabinetry is made of particleboard, fiberboard, compressed wood and chips, and/or foil, not real, solid wood. Therefore, not the SUPERIOR quality materials OR construction one would expect in a $10 million apartment.

And I almost forgot, when I looked at their stuff for a kitchen in one of my houses the second thing I noticed, after the particleboard, was that their cabinet pieces are typically GLUED together. The easiest way to spot quality woodwork is by looking at the joinery method cuz that is a major sign of true craftsmanship in carpentry. That holds true for 1000 year old antiques and for woodworking today. If you've got that kinda money there's no excuse for putting particleboard in that joint, especially when you can put REAL wood, well-made cabinets in a kitchen for the same price or less than Ikea particleboard.

But, since you've already stated that you're better than me, what could I possibly know. shrug
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Oh, fuck off. lol

Oh my, such nastiness shake
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Reply #56 posted 02/25/10 8:09pm

BlackAdder7

i had a cousin who furnished her country bungalow and it's kitchen by IKEA. she's an architect and can get whatever she wanted...the place looked awesome
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Reply #57 posted 02/25/10 8:13pm

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BlackAdder7 said:

i had a cousin who furnished her country bungalow and it's kitchen by IKEA. she's an architect and can get whatever she wanted...the place looked awesome

lol Good for her. clapping

I'm not talking about looks or style, which I already said is subjective, but quality. Still doesn't change the fact it's not real wood or superior quality and therefore beneath the standards that THIS co-op expects.
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Reply #58 posted 02/25/10 8:15pm

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SCNDLS said:

BlackAdder7 said:

i had a cousin who furnished her country bungalow and it's kitchen by IKEA. she's an architect and can get whatever she wanted...the place looked awesome

lol Good for her. clapping

I'm not talking about looks or style, which I already said is subjective, but quality. Still doesn't change the fact it's not real wood or superior quality and therefore beneath the standards that THIS co-op expects.


but it's inside the walls of the co-op's owner, it's not in the common areas.
the only ones affected would be the residents/future owners of the co-op, and that's where the board should butt out.
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Reply #59 posted 02/25/10 8:21pm

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BlackAdder7 said:

SCNDLS said:


lol Good for her. clapping

I'm not talking about looks or style, which I already said is subjective, but quality. Still doesn't change the fact it's not real wood or superior quality and therefore beneath the standards that THIS co-op expects.


but it's inside the walls of the co-op's owner, it's not in the common areas.
the only ones affected would be the residents/future owners of the co-op, and that's where the board should butt out.

rolleyes Co-ops don't work like that, they CAN and DO legally control what you do in your apartment (As TD3, an atty, already said in post #29). All of the stipulations are clearly spelled out when you buy in IF you get past the interview process for the privilege of buying one of their precious units.

Ask Madonna, Mariah Carey, and Bono how much luck THEY had fighting co-op boards in NYC. Even Donald Trump is in a fight with the co-op board of the Trump Plaza which is trying to evict his company from the building. They are definitely like the Gestapo in NYC. Again, if you don't like their rules don't buy in the building. No one's forcing them to buy there and they know what they're getting into.
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